...to note that we (or at least NASA) cannot debate openly about the single most talked about and thought about and influential subject in human history.
Coincidentally, Fermilab stands to gain most from delays at Cern. Its researchers also operate a rival but less powerful particle accelerator, the Tevatron.
Lots of good posts about copyright vs. trademark. I'm not a copyright expert but actually I am thinking copyright, not trademark.
If the copyright holder distributes a copyrighted work without the copyright notice, etc., then they will likely lose the copyright. It's happened before. In this case if they approved the distribution then it is the same as if they distributed the songs themselves. It's difficult to include a copyright notice on a USB stick, although I suppose there might have been a text file included or a sticker put on the outside. If they did not approve the distribution then that is why they *have* to do something related to Trent Reznor, else someone will argue that Trent was acting as their agent. I'll agree that they don't have to sue per se but they very definitely have to defend the copyright (wait too long to issue a "that's my copyright so stop distributing" notice and the copyright can be lost). In the case where someone else copies maybe the copyright holder can wait for a period of time; however, if the copyright holder themselves distributes without the necessary copyright text, etc., then too bad for them.
And playing a song via radio is not distributing, it's a performance (another post mentioned this as an example of why the restroom distribution couldn't possibly cause the copyright to be lost).
This is correct that the copyright holder gets to dictate how copies are distributed. The funny thing here is that if RIAA does hold the copyright and did not give permission for Trent Reznor to distribute via USB key in the restroom, then they are legally required to sue Trent Reznor for copyright infringement or risk losing their copyright.
On the other hand, if the RIAA *did* give permission and the songs *were* distributed via an anonymous "restroom" posting, they likely lost their copyright at that moment because the distribution would not be able to control who received a copy (no license, no copyright notice, no distribution control, etc.). It would be the same as the copyright holder deliberately posting the song to a public website not controlled by them with no access control nor copyright information, which would effectively put the songs in the public domain.
I agree, the performance sucks. I tried to try Second Life but couldn't ever get it to completely load so that I could sign in. I tried using three different computers on two different network connections over the course of a month and it would always stall at some point while it was trying to communicate with the server. So I canceled the account without even being able to sign on. And to make it even worse, page two of their cancellation survey is non-existent (you get a 404 error when you go to page two of the survey), so you can't even tell them why you are canceling. Not that it sounds like anyone cares.
Firstly, wrong is in the eye of the beholder. Illegal is formally defined by law, although lately the definitions seem to be less precise than they should be. If the beholder has power over you, their definition of wrong can be deadly. Secondly, this is the FBI (i.e. federal government) we're talking about. So how long do they keep the data? Do they get rid of any data that ISN'T related to their target? And even if they say they do, can you TRUST that they do (consider while you formulate your answer the recent illegal spying activity the White House has been caught doing)? Lately the federal government has used up nearly all of their public trust in my view. And as my dad always said, trust once lost is very very difficult to regain.
Windows Vista is, at least for me, the anvil that broke the camel's back. I have been planning a switch to Linux for about two years and Vista is the prefect opportunity to commit. In fact, Microsoft has practically made it mandatory. I wonder how many other users feel the same way? Regardless, Ubuntu, here I come:).
Interesting. You could be right, however, my cable also provides the internet connection and the internet connection was always fine during our "try TWC DVR" period. The Tivo is on DirectTV, I've never tried Tivo via analog broadcast (when we gave up on TCW DVR, we also switched TV providers).
I see those ad hoc computer connections on airplanes all the time (I fly the friendly skies about every two weeks). I thought they might be the airline offering a way to connect to the internet while in the air. Fortunately for me I never allow ad hoc connections on my computers and always have file sharing turned off except for when I'm specifically transferring data. Maybe I'll try to locate the computer offering the connection the next time I see it in the list.
Time Warner Cable Runs Out of crappy HD DVRs. I have tried Time Warner's DVR. I settled on Tivo. Compared to Tivo, Time Warner's DVR is a doorstop.
My wife and I tried three different TWC DVR models. The Time Warner units would freeze up at least once per day (and usually 4 or more times per day), most of the time they would record garbage if I were foolish enough to set them to record two channels at once, and the sound would frequently be out of sync with the picture by 2 seconds or more (on a recorded show). The only good news was that the frequency of these issues was dropping as we swapped out units. The worst failing, however, is that it had no real find capability for shows. I mean, the whole purpose of recording a show is to time shift when you watch it. And yes, I know you can page through the listing and select future shows to record. But that isn't search. With my Tivo unit, I can not only search for shows based on actor, theme, title, rating, time, or channel, I can do so up to 6 weeks into the future, and I can set the Tivo to record shows automatically regardless of how far in the future they are based on my search criteria.
Time Warner has a long way to go compared to what Tivo offers today.
At least we agree on one thing...we both think the other is a blithering idiot.
Just kidding. I appreciate your apology and it speaks well of your character. I apologize also for starting off so crass when I responded back to you. It was a poor choice. Heh, for a while I was wondering if we were going to reach the limit on how many response levels the slashcode will support on a single comment.
Finally: the article is talking about RAM, where each byte is individually accessible, so your whole argumentation has no point at all in this context.
I'm constantly amazed at how idiotic most Slashdotter's responses are. You do realize I was commenting on the previous POSTER'S ANALYSIS, not the article?
So if the default NTFS cluster size is 4,096 bytes, and the previous poster is accurately reporting the size he saw, one might guess his drive isn't formatted to the default cluster size? Imagine that.
Of course, I guess we could all believe that the Word 97 format is so bad that it takes 20,000 bytes to store one character. That makes perfect sense.
As they say, the Devil is in the details...
Wonder how well it works with laptops? My problem has always been Broadcom wireless network cards and Brother Multi-function printers...
Switch to Linux.
Yeah, glad they didn't do that to Star Trek...
[...]vast volumes of material they had kept on everyone from their own citizens to foreign leaders[...]
Wonder if the purpose is to find out what East Germany was doing for posterity's sake? Or might the purpose be for some future use?
Whoever originally coined the word Con-gress ... should be modded the most insightful and prescient individual in history.
...to note that we (or at least NASA) cannot debate openly about the single most talked about and thought about and influential subject in human history.
On the contrary, SCO has been IBM's best witness...
distribute to all nonmembers as well as its members
Forcing someone to join the SoundExchange before they get their distribution would be the extortion part...
I survived the first Big Bang at CERN and all I got was this lousy t-shirt...
Coincidentally, Fermilab stands to gain most from delays at Cern. Its researchers also operate a rival but less powerful particle accelerator, the Tevatron.
I think not...
Lots of good posts about copyright vs. trademark. I'm not a copyright expert but actually I am thinking copyright, not trademark.
If the copyright holder distributes a copyrighted work without the copyright notice, etc., then they will likely lose the copyright. It's happened before. In this case if they approved the distribution then it is the same as if they distributed the songs themselves. It's difficult to include a copyright notice on a USB stick, although I suppose there might have been a text file included or a sticker put on the outside. If they did not approve the distribution then that is why they *have* to do something related to Trent Reznor, else someone will argue that Trent was acting as their agent. I'll agree that they don't have to sue per se but they very definitely have to defend the copyright (wait too long to issue a "that's my copyright so stop distributing" notice and the copyright can be lost). In the case where someone else copies maybe the copyright holder can wait for a period of time; however, if the copyright holder themselves distributes without the necessary copyright text, etc., then too bad for them.
And playing a song via radio is not distributing, it's a performance (another post mentioned this as an example of why the restroom distribution couldn't possibly cause the copyright to be lost).
Additional comments welcome.
I vote for the complete idiot choice...
This is correct that the copyright holder gets to dictate how copies are distributed. The funny thing here is that if RIAA does hold the copyright and did not give permission for Trent Reznor to distribute via USB key in the restroom, then they are legally required to sue Trent Reznor for copyright infringement or risk losing their copyright.
On the other hand, if the RIAA *did* give permission and the songs *were* distributed via an anonymous "restroom" posting, they likely lost their copyright at that moment because the distribution would not be able to control who received a copy (no license, no copyright notice, no distribution control, etc.). It would be the same as the copyright holder deliberately posting the song to a public website not controlled by them with no access control nor copyright information, which would effectively put the songs in the public domain.
Interesting problem.
Since your's is the first post, that's a self-fulfilling prophesy...
I agree, the performance sucks. I tried to try Second Life but couldn't ever get it to completely load so that I could sign in. I tried using three different computers on two different network connections over the course of a month and it would always stall at some point while it was trying to communicate with the server. So I canceled the account without even being able to sign on. And to make it even worse, page two of their cancellation survey is non-existent (you get a 404 error when you go to page two of the survey), so you can't even tell them why you are canceling. Not that it sounds like anyone cares.
Firstly, wrong is in the eye of the beholder. Illegal is formally defined by law, although lately the definitions seem to be less precise than they should be. If the beholder has power over you, their definition of wrong can be deadly. Secondly, this is the FBI (i.e. federal government) we're talking about. So how long do they keep the data? Do they get rid of any data that ISN'T related to their target? And even if they say they do, can you TRUST that they do (consider while you formulate your answer the recent illegal spying activity the White House has been caught doing)? Lately the federal government has used up nearly all of their public trust in my view. And as my dad always said, trust once lost is very very difficult to regain.
Windows Vista is, at least for me, the anvil that broke the camel's back. I have been planning a switch to Linux for about two years and Vista is the prefect opportunity to commit. In fact, Microsoft has practically made it mandatory. I wonder how many other users feel the same way? Regardless, Ubuntu, here I come :).
Maybe they'll consider the consequences of their actions the next time they have to make a similar choice...
Interesting. You could be right, however, my cable also provides the internet connection and the internet connection was always fine during our "try TWC DVR" period. The Tivo is on DirectTV, I've never tried Tivo via analog broadcast (when we gave up on TCW DVR, we also switched TV providers).
I see those ad hoc computer connections on airplanes all the time (I fly the friendly skies about every two weeks). I thought they might be the airline offering a way to connect to the internet while in the air. Fortunately for me I never allow ad hoc connections on my computers and always have file sharing turned off except for when I'm specifically transferring data. Maybe I'll try to locate the computer offering the connection the next time I see it in the list.
Time Warner Cable Runs Out of crappy HD DVRs. I have tried Time Warner's DVR. I settled on Tivo. Compared to Tivo, Time Warner's DVR is a doorstop.
My wife and I tried three different TWC DVR models. The Time Warner units would freeze up at least once per day (and usually 4 or more times per day), most of the time they would record garbage if I were foolish enough to set them to record two channels at once, and the sound would frequently be out of sync with the picture by 2 seconds or more (on a recorded show). The only good news was that the frequency of these issues was dropping as we swapped out units. The worst failing, however, is that it had no real find capability for shows. I mean, the whole purpose of recording a show is to time shift when you watch it. And yes, I know you can page through the listing and select future shows to record. But that isn't search. With my Tivo unit, I can not only search for shows based on actor, theme, title, rating, time, or channel, I can do so up to 6 weeks into the future, and I can set the Tivo to record shows automatically regardless of how far in the future they are based on my search criteria.
Time Warner has a long way to go compared to what Tivo offers today.
At least we agree on one thing...we both think the other is a blithering idiot.
Just kidding. I appreciate your apology and it speaks well of your character. I apologize also for starting off so crass when I responded back to you. It was a poor choice. Heh, for a while I was wondering if we were going to reach the limit on how many response levels the slashcode will support on a single comment.
Meanwhile, when saved to the desktop on a WinXP NTFS box, a Word97 document containing one character requires 19 kilobytes of storage.
From you: Nothing about his filesystem.
Really.
Finally: the article is talking about RAM, where each byte is individually accessible, so your whole argumentation has no point at all in this context.
I'm constantly amazed at how idiotic most Slashdotter's responses are. You do realize I was commenting on the previous POSTER'S ANALYSIS, not the article?
So if the default NTFS cluster size is 4,096 bytes, and the previous poster is accurately reporting the size he saw, one might guess his drive isn't formatted to the default cluster size? Imagine that.
Of course, I guess we could all believe that the Word 97 format is so bad that it takes 20,000 bytes to store one character. That makes perfect sense.