The amount of bandwidth needed would vary enormously depending on how much movement is around the unit. For instance, if it's a quiet afternoon and there's 5 people in visual range, it'll hardly need any bandwidth as it's only having to send scene changes across the line.
I'd be willing to bet that on a parade day with it's cameras full of moving people, it'll run terribly because they likely didn't build it to run 23-30fps, sending an entirely redrawn scene every frame.
You/. mods should try news.google.com and save our souls from the NY Times registration database. The same goes for you submitters. It takes a couple of seconds and would save/. readers some time.
By turning on one of these devices, you are in effect, pulling the trigger if an accident occurs during the untimely signal change you caused.
Since most traffic lights in metro areas are linked back to a central office, it won't take long for them to spot patterns of abuse of these devices. If they become one of those riceboy toys and explode in popularity, it'll take about a month before they are banned and put laws in to make the penalty for using one tough.
Hacking is cool. Hacking public infrastructure for your personal gain, VERY UNCOOL. Be a White Hat, no matter what the science.
It's fine by me. I actually prefer this to being without. Sure, they can see I occasionally drive 98mph, but am very easy on my car.
If something happened while the car is under warranty, and the dealer tried to pull some crap about it not being covered due to improper use or abuse, then I could get a printout of my driving activities to take to court with me.
"See, your honor, this car has not exceeded 5,000 rpms once in it's logged history and has had all the required service performed on it".. "The engine failure had to be due to a defective component." Just a thought.
There's a badge on my hip from SmartProx. I've been wearing these things for the last 8 years. They are required to enter the parking deck, enter/leave the building, enter/leave critical areas, enter/leave the smoking area, enter/leave most of the office areas, etc.
There's also cameras everywhere. I've been working under or near camera coverage for about 10 years now.
This is typically said to be for keeping unauthorized people out, but during time spent in management positions, we always used them to see what employees were up to. Say Tom says he worked 80 hours in the office last week while I was on vacation. I could print up a report of his badge SN and see how much time he was in the office, how many smoke breaks he took, how long his lunches were, etc.
Why not just go ahead and use it with these kids? They are kids, in school. Seems more important to keep track of them that corporate professionals, wouldn't ya think?
On the subject of privacy, that seems to have went out the door a long time ago. Most of the privacy issues I've seen debated in the media recently just seem asinine when you drive down the highway to work and it's almost 100% covered by traffic and investigative cameras.
What are the investigative cameras for? Spotting DWI, illegal substances sitting out on passenger seats, excessive speeding, spotting stolen cars, wreckless drivers, road rage, tracking suspects without the need for hi-speed pursuit, etc.
There's not much privacy outside your home. What's private in your home needs to just be kept secret so it'll remain private..:)
Yeah, I came from a struggling, single-parent home too. If I had spawned from the middle class, I'd probably think I'm poor. I look back on the days of second-hand Wrangler jeans and no A/C and it seems like a lifetime ago, already. Regardless of the end-outcome of it all, one can never forget their roots. For all I know, I could be living in a rotten trailer in 10 years..:]
Luckily, my family did nothing but insult me until the point we just parted directions. Now I don't have to worry about supporting or helping them. Their loss, I guess. They wanted a social, football playing, yes maam/sir type and got a geek instead.:)
With the exception of what is legally allowed in the USA, I see no difference in this and Lowjack or other tracking systems.
To my understanding, many large commercial fleets already have tracking systems in place, which was originally designed for the trucking industry.
Also, most new cars have extensive logging. I was unaware of this until the shop manager at my VW dealership complimented my easy driving. I asked how he knew, and told me some details and funny stories about how it's already saved them money.
For instance, Joe Abusive buys a new VW. He doesn't like the deal he got, so he breaks stuff on his car because he's one of those types. Say, he sits on his porch and clicks the locks on and off with his remote until they are burned out. Upon taking it back to the dealer, they can see he accessed his car locks remotely 9500 times in the last 24 hours. A clear sign of abuse and would not be covered by warranty. That's a true story, by the way. I think the car in question was a new Passat.
The tracking systems for truckers has been around for 10-15 years. It seems about that long ago that my uncle (a truck driver) was complaining about not being able to speed or take senic routes anymore due to some heavy new electronics on board.
If I were a company owner and had a fleet of cars for employees to use for business use, I'd definitely investigate getting a service like this. Everyone I've known who uses a company car on a regular basis always drives them like there's no tomorrow. A terrible waste for the folks paying for that luxury.
Yeah, that was probably me and my posse of monks waiting for you outside the city.
On the PvP server, we'd get a band of about 10 monks to beat up anyone who crossed our path outside of Quenos. I'd often take a beetle eye or a few gold for the privelege of not being leeted upon.
Amen to that. I like how things are here. I dropped out of highschool at 16, got into IT, worked hard for a few years..
Now I sleep on $1100 worth of sheets and pillows. I drive a swedish sports sedan, eat fresh steak for dinner several times a week, and have all the health benefits you can shake a stick at. I still have 2-3 days a week I can be a total slob and play video games all day. Saving up for that cabin next to a lake, planning retirement, etc.
I'm not rich, still in the upper-5 figures area. But if I am feeling blue, all I need to do is compare my sanitary and comfortable life with 99.5% of the rest of the world and I suddenly feel better about my lot.
American capitalism is beautiful, but only if you adhere to it as a way of life. It's quite another thing if you are a barefoot hippy or a Canadian.
They all do. When a film fails in a theater, somtimes this is the only way to generate any revenue.
A lot of films flop simply because they have no advertising, or bad advertising. Once it hits the local Blockbuster, then it has years to recoup the losses.
Troll? What the hell ever. So mentioning the fact that this thread was about piracy and not about making sure the small films get a shot at an award is trolling?
Why don't you pinhead mods make a note of how the thread is going. Most of what was posted after my message has more to do with piracy than anything.
The fact that you/. pinheads can't keep your wAreZ shit off here contributes to the derogatory image of open source in the workplace. If you can't see that, then fine, use your mod points like a 13 year old.
Nah, I don't mind waiting for the DVD to come out and renting it. I prefer the method of movie watching that is both legal and doesn't require me to lift my ass out of this chair.
Now if only it were legal to back up the rented copies, then life would be grand. But it's okay. I have my honor to maintain, regardless of how you moral cancers have spread through society in epidemic numbers, lately.
A bunch of self proclaimed "Robbin Hoods", yet there is no charity. There's also no regard to the economic impacts of their crusades(escapades??). This 'kick 'em in the face' attitude is fine for sounding good in a forum, but it's probably not the approach I would take if the MPAA dragged me in to court over some charges that I had distributed a DVD image of the screener to their new $200 million dollar movie and cost them between $1 and 20 million in ticket sales. Of course, they'll settle for pennies on the dollar, but it'll be enough to wipe ya out. That's assuming such a Rambo-bambino crusader, such as yourself, requires more than a KA-bar and your trusty pouch of snuff to survive any enviroment. If this is the case, I salute your will to exist as you are.
I agree. This is nothing but a "What, my Warez is in danger???" thread. I like all the complaining going on about the artists and their awards. You'd think/. was a bunch of soccer moms upset because Robert Redford didn't win some dumb award for a cameo in an indy flick.
But what happens when the movie goes to DVD? How about the fact that most of these are foreign films that would have gotten popular through other channels long before reaching US shores and having a shot at an American award?
This doesn't matter. They will just make it harder to pirate. The end result, the films will bring on as much of a view base as they did before -- they just won't be as popular as quickly with the mainstream. Fine by me!
You warez kiddies wear too thin a veil in this department.
Suddenly, CowboyNeal is concerned with movie awards? The last I read, this was News for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
Unless CowboyNeal is concerned with being unable to pir8 the latest screener DVD in the future, I don't see how this matters nerd-wise.
Sure, there's awards to worry about. I guess. It's just an industry. I mean, we spend our lives toiling over corporate networks and don't get other IT people holding ceremonies and kissing our pimpled butts over a job well done. So, I am not too terribly concerned about film 'artists' getting their deserts either. It's life, live it for the fun, not little golden globes.
Sure sure, someone will miss out after a good indy flick is released. I'm a nerd, I don't care. If I was an Oprah-watching soccer mom, this just might be an issue. This sort of thing belongs in Vanity Fair or possibly a Wired! article. As a consumer and nerd, I stand very little to lose either way. The same movies will be released on DVD and I'll eventually find them on Netflix.
Can we get back to science, anti-microsoft hate speech, Linux zealotry (you terrorists!), and linking to three year old Wired articles sometime soon?? I'm really tired of the "OMG, they want to stop piracy of unreleased movies!! The horrors!!". Then we wonder why people don't see much of a difference between an open source supporter and a warez/movie thief.
Yeah, I posted that about 4 hours before a co-worker came in and go an email from helpdesk warning him to patch his machine. Since he had been off work for a few days, he missed the last round of 2k updates.
Upon installing SP4 and the hotfixes, the machine would boot to a non-ledgible BSoD. I think I jinxed him as I updated all my crap before the post.
Whether it be server or workstation, you definitely don't know what you are getting until the reboot happens.
I also worked in a couple of shops in my IT infancy. I killed a number of motherboards swapping keyboards and mice between computers.
Probably 5-6 in 3 years.. This was mainly Packard Bell, as the shop I spent the most time at did warranty repairs for them.
About the other guy saying there's a huge fuse to protect you, a larger fuse offers less protection than a smaller one. That means more current will enter the circuit before burning out the fuse wire.
Rebooting also seems to be required for FreeBSD, too. I've been able to get a USB mouse to come up, but never a PS2. It would always track improperly until a restart.
The worst thing you can do is get one of those $10 monitor switches. We used those in labs a long time ago. They kill monitors in no time. I don't know the science behind it, but I'm just glad it wasn't out of my wallet.
Yeah, the industry is so full of bullshit. HDTV is one of those things America should have picked up and ran with from the start. It's a quality of living thing, if nothing else.
The most hilarious aspect is Microsoft is the only company making a move with HD content on DVD. To my understanding, it's an 8gig compressed wm9 file that takes a P4 3.0gig to dispose of at 24fps. Technical and marketing information is available here.
The FCC, MPAA, etc can all pretty much kiss my ass at this point. Millions of americans have bought HD systems and enforcing HCP copy protection by using the DMCA to make criminals out of anyone who wants to view protected content on their two year old HDTV. It's utter bullshit.
What even more bothersome, Americans are so media influenced, they never make a big stink out of these things. Just a few enthusiasts and geeks will continue to scream "OMG Help! They are fucking us again!!!" and the average joe won't think about any 'issues' outside of what Fox News and USA Today have to say. Then if it ever did come to the mainstream media, the words "Hacker" and "illegal P2P file sharing" will come up enough to make Joe think the world will end if the media conglomerates don't get their way.
The thing these greedy companies are banking on is the perfection of DRM. They dream of the day when DRM works and is hard enough to by-pass that they will feel safe releasing all new movies in a 1920x1080p format. I'm all for that, sure, as long as I get to record shows and play them back at will, rent DVD's with spectacular detail, etc. I do think they are shooting themselves in the ass repeatedly by holding out. The HDTV market could have exploded 7-8 years ago. Too bad most of our HD signal space alocated by the FCC for OTA and satellite got used for Home Shopping Network and other 24/7 infomercial networks.
What Lumpy says seems to be true. If you don't mind a CRT tv set, it may just be wiser to get a 16:9 Enhanced unit. They are insanely cheaper and support 480p, which is what all DVD content will display. The 'upconverter' units like the Samsung HD931 will take a DVD at 480p and upconvert it to 720p or 1080i. What's it look like? Exactly like a 480p image.
If you have the big bucks, DLP and LCoS are nice. If not for watching the lack of HD content, but to use as giant computer monitors.:)
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The amount of bandwidth needed would vary enormously depending on how much movement is around the unit. For instance, if it's a quiet afternoon and there's 5 people in visual range, it'll hardly need any bandwidth as it's only having to send scene changes across the line.
I'd be willing to bet that on a parade day with it's cameras full of moving people, it'll run terribly because they likely didn't build it to run 23-30fps, sending an entirely redrawn scene every frame.
I doubt they'll even notice. They're too busy being de-nutted by VoIP and Instant Messaging.
Here and here.
/. mods should try news.google.com and save our souls from the NY Times registration database. The same goes for you submitters. It takes a couple of seconds and would save /. readers some time.
You
By turning on one of these devices, you are in effect, pulling the trigger if an accident occurs during the untimely signal change you caused.
Since most traffic lights in metro areas are linked back to a central office, it won't take long for them to spot patterns of abuse of these devices. If they become one of those riceboy toys and explode in popularity, it'll take about a month before they are banned and put laws in to make the penalty for using one tough.
Hacking is cool.
Hacking public infrastructure for your personal gain, VERY UNCOOL.
Be a White Hat, no matter what the science.
Too late, I just submitted a pantent on that technology. You may continue your research upon purchasing a license.
Think of a RSA SecurID token. A 6 number sequence that both the token and the authenticator know that changes at preset intervals.
But worse RFIDs are in cars and readable from over twenty feet away
So is your license plate! OH NO!
It's fine by me. I actually prefer this to being without. Sure, they can see I occasionally drive 98mph, but am very easy on my car.
If something happened while the car is under warranty, and the dealer tried to pull some crap about it not being covered due to improper use or abuse, then I could get a printout of my driving activities to take to court with me.
"See, your honor, this car has not exceeded 5,000 rpms once in it's logged history and has had all the required service performed on it".. "The engine failure had to be due to a defective component." Just a thought.
I learned how to do 180's in a GradPrix rental by yanking the E-brake and turning the wheel sharply.
The brake quit working after the 5th or 6th demonstration of my new skill.
There's a badge on my hip from SmartProx. I've been wearing these things for the last 8 years. They are required to enter the parking deck, enter/leave the building, enter/leave critical areas, enter/leave the smoking area, enter/leave most of the office areas, etc.
:)
There's also cameras everywhere. I've been working under or near camera coverage for about 10 years now.
This is typically said to be for keeping unauthorized people out, but during time spent in management positions, we always used them to see what employees were up to. Say Tom says he worked 80 hours in the office last week while I was on vacation. I could print up a report of his badge SN and see how much time he was in the office, how many smoke breaks he took, how long his lunches were, etc.
Why not just go ahead and use it with these kids? They are kids, in school. Seems more important to keep track of them that corporate professionals, wouldn't ya think?
On the subject of privacy, that seems to have went out the door a long time ago. Most of the privacy issues I've seen debated in the media recently just seem asinine when you drive down the highway to work and it's almost 100% covered by traffic and investigative cameras.
What are the investigative cameras for? Spotting DWI, illegal substances sitting out on passenger seats, excessive speeding, spotting stolen cars, wreckless drivers, road rage, tracking suspects without the need for hi-speed pursuit, etc.
There's not much privacy outside your home. What's private in your home needs to just be kept secret so it'll remain private..
Yeah, I came from a struggling, single-parent home too. If I had spawned from the middle class, I'd probably think I'm poor. I look back on the days of second-hand Wrangler jeans and no A/C and it seems like a lifetime ago, already. Regardless of the end-outcome of it all, one can never forget their roots. For all I know, I could be living in a rotten trailer in 10 years.. :]
:)
Luckily, my family did nothing but insult me until the point we just parted directions. Now I don't have to worry about supporting or helping them. Their loss, I guess. They wanted a social, football playing, yes maam/sir type and got a geek instead.
With the exception of what is legally allowed in the USA, I see no difference in this and Lowjack or other tracking systems.
To my understanding, many large commercial fleets already have tracking systems in place, which was originally designed for the trucking industry.
Also, most new cars have extensive logging. I was unaware of this until the shop manager at my VW dealership complimented my easy driving. I asked how he knew, and told me some details and funny stories about how it's already saved them money.
For instance, Joe Abusive buys a new VW. He doesn't like the deal he got, so he breaks stuff on his car because he's one of those types. Say, he sits on his porch and clicks the locks on and off with his remote until they are burned out. Upon taking it back to the dealer, they can see he accessed his car locks remotely 9500 times in the last 24 hours. A clear sign of abuse and would not be covered by warranty. That's a true story, by the way. I think the car in question was a new Passat.
The tracking systems for truckers has been around for 10-15 years. It seems about that long ago that my uncle (a truck driver) was complaining about not being able to speed or take senic routes anymore due to some heavy new electronics on board.
If I were a company owner and had a fleet of cars for employees to use for business use, I'd definitely investigate getting a service like this. Everyone I've known who uses a company car on a regular basis always drives them like there's no tomorrow. A terrible waste for the folks paying for that luxury.
Yeah, that was probably me and my posse of monks waiting for you outside the city.
On the PvP server, we'd get a band of about 10 monks to beat up anyone who crossed our path outside of Quenos. I'd often take a beetle eye or a few gold for the privelege of not being leeted upon.
Was some good times..
Amen to that. I like how things are here. I dropped out of highschool at 16, got into IT, worked hard for a few years..
Now I sleep on $1100 worth of sheets and pillows. I drive a swedish sports sedan, eat fresh steak for dinner several times a week, and have all the health benefits you can shake a stick at. I still have 2-3 days a week I can be a total slob and play video games all day. Saving up for that cabin next to a lake, planning retirement, etc.
I'm not rich, still in the upper-5 figures area. But if I am feeling blue, all I need to do is compare my sanitary and comfortable life with 99.5% of the rest of the world and I suddenly feel better about my lot.
American capitalism is beautiful, but only if you adhere to it as a way of life. It's quite another thing if you are a barefoot hippy or a Canadian.
They all do. When a film fails in a theater, somtimes this is the only way to generate any revenue.
A lot of films flop simply because they have no advertising, or bad advertising. Once it hits the local Blockbuster, then it has years to recoup the losses.
Same goes with independent films..
Troll? What the hell ever. So mentioning the fact that this thread was about piracy and not about making sure the small films get a shot at an award is trolling?
/. pinheads can't keep your wAreZ shit off here contributes to the derogatory image of open source in the workplace. If you can't see that, then fine, use your mod points like a 13 year old.
Why don't you pinhead mods make a note of how the thread is going. Most of what was posted after my message has more to do with piracy than anything.
The fact that you
Nah, I don't mind waiting for the DVD to come out and renting it. I prefer the method of movie watching that is both legal and doesn't require me to lift my ass out of this chair.
Now if only it were legal to back up the rented copies, then life would be grand. But it's okay. I have my honor to maintain, regardless of how you moral cancers have spread through society in epidemic numbers, lately.
A bunch of self proclaimed "Robbin Hoods", yet there is no charity. There's also no regard to the economic impacts of their crusades(escapades??). This 'kick 'em in the face' attitude is fine for sounding good in a forum, but it's probably not the approach I would take if the MPAA dragged me in to court over some charges that I had distributed a DVD image of the screener to their new $200 million dollar movie and cost them between $1 and 20 million in ticket sales. Of course, they'll settle for pennies on the dollar, but it'll be enough to wipe ya out. That's assuming such a Rambo-bambino crusader, such as yourself, requires more than a KA-bar and your trusty pouch of snuff to survive any enviroment. If this is the case, I salute your will to exist as you are.
I agree. This is nothing but a "What, my Warez is in danger???" thread. I like all the complaining going on about the artists and their awards. You'd think /. was a bunch of soccer moms upset because Robert Redford didn't win some dumb award for a cameo in an indy flick.
But what happens when the movie goes to DVD? How about the fact that most of these are foreign films that would have gotten popular through other channels long before reaching US shores and having a shot at an American award?
This doesn't matter. They will just make it harder to pirate. The end result, the films will bring on as much of a view base as they did before -- they just won't be as popular as quickly with the mainstream. Fine by me!
You warez kiddies wear too thin a veil in this department.
Suddenly, CowboyNeal is concerned with movie awards? The last I read, this was News for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
Unless CowboyNeal is concerned with being unable to pir8 the latest screener DVD in the future, I don't see how this matters nerd-wise.
Sure, there's awards to worry about. I guess. It's just an industry. I mean, we spend our lives toiling over corporate networks and don't get other IT people holding ceremonies and kissing our pimpled butts over a job well done. So, I am not too terribly concerned about film 'artists' getting their deserts either. It's life, live it for the fun, not little golden globes.
Sure sure, someone will miss out after a good indy flick is released. I'm a nerd, I don't care. If I was an Oprah-watching soccer mom, this just might be an issue. This sort of thing belongs in Vanity Fair or possibly a Wired! article. As a consumer and nerd, I stand very little to lose either way. The same movies will be released on DVD and I'll eventually find them on Netflix.
Can we get back to science, anti-microsoft hate speech, Linux zealotry (you terrorists!), and linking to three year old Wired articles sometime soon?? I'm really tired of the "OMG, they want to stop piracy of unreleased movies!! The horrors!!". Then we wonder why people don't see much of a difference between an open source supporter and a warez/movie thief.
Great job keeping the lines grey!
Yeah, I posted that about 4 hours before a co-worker came in and go an email from helpdesk warning him to patch his machine. Since he had been off work for a few days, he missed the last round of 2k updates.
Upon installing SP4 and the hotfixes, the machine would boot to a non-ledgible BSoD. I think I jinxed him as I updated all my crap before the post.
Whether it be server or workstation, you definitely don't know what you are getting until the reboot happens.
Why not run the patch, then have someone reboot the systems after hours?
/. article.. :)
Just have a spare engineer, or two, on standby in the event a system doesn't come back.
I forgot, that's too easy and wouldn't have resulted in a
I also worked in a couple of shops in my IT infancy. I killed a number of motherboards swapping keyboards and mice between computers.
Probably 5-6 in 3 years.. This was mainly Packard Bell, as the shop I spent the most time at did warranty repairs for them.
About the other guy saying there's a huge fuse to protect you, a larger fuse offers less protection than a smaller one. That means more current will enter the circuit before burning out the fuse wire.
Rebooting also seems to be required for FreeBSD, too. I've been able to get a USB mouse to come up, but never a PS2. It would always track improperly until a restart.
The worst thing you can do is get one of those $10 monitor switches. We used those in labs a long time ago. They kill monitors in no time. I don't know the science behind it, but I'm just glad it wasn't out of my wallet.
I should add, the reason why the upconverted 480p image will typically look the same -- most HDTV sets have their own upcoverter built in.
Yeah, the industry is so full of bullshit. HDTV is one of those things America should have picked up and ran with from the start. It's a quality of living thing, if nothing else.
:)
The most hilarious aspect is Microsoft is the only company making a move with HD content on DVD. To my understanding, it's an 8gig compressed wm9 file that takes a P4 3.0gig to dispose of at 24fps. Technical and marketing information is available here.
The FCC, MPAA, etc can all pretty much kiss my ass at this point. Millions of americans have bought HD systems and enforcing HCP copy protection by using the DMCA to make criminals out of anyone who wants to view protected content on their two year old HDTV. It's utter bullshit.
What even more bothersome, Americans are so media influenced, they never make a big stink out of these things. Just a few enthusiasts and geeks will continue to scream "OMG Help! They are fucking us again!!!" and the average joe won't think about any 'issues' outside of what Fox News and USA Today have to say. Then if it ever did come to the mainstream media, the words "Hacker" and "illegal P2P file sharing" will come up enough to make Joe think the world will end if the media conglomerates don't get their way.
The thing these greedy companies are banking on is the perfection of DRM. They dream of the day when DRM works and is hard enough to by-pass that they will feel safe releasing all new movies in a 1920x1080p format. I'm all for that, sure, as long as I get to record shows and play them back at will, rent DVD's with spectacular detail, etc. I do think they are shooting themselves in the ass repeatedly by holding out. The HDTV market could have exploded 7-8 years ago. Too bad most of our HD signal space alocated by the FCC for OTA and satellite got used for Home Shopping Network and other 24/7 infomercial networks.
What Lumpy says seems to be true. If you don't mind a CRT tv set, it may just be wiser to get a 16:9 Enhanced unit. They are insanely cheaper and support 480p, which is what all DVD content will display. The 'upconverter' units like the Samsung HD931 will take a DVD at 480p and upconvert it to 720p or 1080i. What's it look like? Exactly like a 480p image.
If you have the big bucks, DLP and LCoS are nice. If not for watching the lack of HD content, but to use as giant computer monitors.