The issue isn't simply having a dialogue with an ETI but rather just proof of their existance. It'll dramatically affect how we as a species view ourselves and our place in the universe. It'll also have profound effects on theologies of all sorts as well as inform and modify our behavior on a pretty significant scale (for better or worse)
Craigs List? Or any other classifieds variants. You're making the presumption that both of those are going to waste when in both cases you'll be passing them on to someone else who would've gotten them from another source otherwise (which could be new or used)
I don't think its about that per se. It's about finding and implementing the most efficient transportation mechanism. If you could develop a fully automated system, you wouldn't need to own cars since they could be available on demand. How many hours are cars driven vs garaged, one could reduce the total number of automobiles by a factor of 5 if not more.
I remember seeing an article on here a while ago about mass transit that went to each neighborhood but instead of trains were 4 passenger vehicles that were fully automated.
LOL Thats actually exactly what I did when she tried transferring me to Fios TV. I had to explain that it was new internet package and established credibility by saying it was on CNN!!!. Anyways calling the local offices was the tech's recommendation b/c neither she nor her boss had any info about the plan
I've just gone with Nvidia. My reasoning was along the lines of I need to use the system now. If/when ATI/AMD get enough specs out and everything is coded correctly, I can ebay/craigslist the nVidia and switch to ATI. I'm not holding my breath, as someone else said GPU's are complex, it'll take time for it to stabilize (and yes I'd prefer the open source version as well but I'm not willing to work with an unstable/minimally functionally system either)
I'm not a Dodd supporter. Would prefer Kucinich or Gravel to be in the white house, but showing support for anyone doing the right thing, financially or by volunteering or spreading the word etc is a good idea IMHO. Rewarding good behavior and all that.
The issue isn't ubuntu or linux per se but if the manufacturer supports linux or not. If they don't there's not much that can be done. Some people try to rewrite the drivers or wrap the windows drivers to run on Linux etc
Otoh isn't it more simple to just support (vote w/ur wallet) the companies that are linux friendly? There are lots of wireless cards that support linux.
I setup an edubuntu box recently and instead of trying to figure out how to get something to work, I simply looked up what is known to work and picked it up (from newegg and it has been working flawlessly.
They may not be in charge of day to day politics but they are in control of the hearts and minds of the populace. Where everything is referred to as justifiable by religion where 'religious scholars' influence the course of law-making they remain in control. The terms of the debate on daily life on rationality on free thought are largely set by the mullah's not the political leaders. Go to any muslim country and try to engage in a conversation about something that may contradict a mullah's pov and see how fast you'll meet closed minds and a cold shoulder if not significantly worse.
The issue is I believe we presume to have advanced societally from the point where entire civilizations were put under the sword. Now on the other hand if a particular religion died out because nobody believed in it anymore don't think anyone would cry except the last few people that believed (be that worshipers of Zeus, followers of the Talmud, Quran or anything else)
Um said agreement calls on us to eliminate our stockpile too which we've so far done an admirable job @ in the couple of decades since it was signed. All the people in the nuke club are worse offenders then Iran/Libya etc
The idea is to overspend on other things (such as the war in Iraq) / DoD etc so that the inevitable belt tightening from massive deficits causes social programs to be cut. Look up the programs cut in California since Bush came into power as a pseudo example (Those were specifically b/c of budgetary issues but the point being creating those issues has the consequence of downsizing the govt)
Depending on their motivation, as someone else said is this a big FU to Microsoft? If so wouldn't it make much more sense to start investing in Open Office to cover the deficiencies. Significantly cheaper and more effective then starting something up from scratch. OTOH if they have the resources to do it ground up and not die in the process more power to them
I've been messing with XEN for a week or two, thought it would help me out with debugging and maintaining multiple systems without the need for them. Picked up an AMD SVM CPU and tried it, running into a wall. The XEN list serv wasn't much help nor were the log files. In comparison Virtual PC 07 / VMWare on Windows worked flawlessly on the first try... I'd still prefer using XEN and might take a stab at KVM but wasting a week just to get to the boot screen without success was a little painful. FYI I tried CentOS and WinXP
It's the other way around, not space exploration but 'earth' imagery taken from space. It's a GIS thing not a space thing, just that NASA has the satellites that do the actual imaging. From Wikipedia - "The Landsat program is the longest running enterprise for acquisition of imagery of Earth from space"
Where do i start?
1) Reread my previous message where I said I was a muslim not that I am one...
2) Muhammad lived with the jews for years until they broke the treaty of mutual defense that they had. The treaty was basically a joint defense pact of Madina against all external enemies. When they sided with the enemy they were treated as traitors. Yes their death was morally wrong but it was according to an agreement they signed on for and was decided by an arbitrar not Muhammad (read up No God But God by Reza Aslan)
3) I am not a muslim and even when I was I always believed the hadith are complete and utter bull shit. Heck there's a hadith from Sahih Muslim that quotes the prophet as saying that do not collect the hadith.
4) Just as Falwell does not represent the best of christianity so does Khomeini not do so.
5) Marriage w/o consent is expressly forbidden in Islam despite what some cultures do.
In any case I'm not saying that Islam is some sort of panacea or its right but thats true of all religions. If you want to judge any of them please do so but at least be accurate about it.
There is no such 'belief' about holocaust denial in Islam. I grew up as a muslim (Don't believe in religion per se at the moment) but the holocaust denial is a reaction to Israel and the resulting growing anti semitism in the muslim world. Linking it with the faith is a tad unfair
To put it simply , Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The issue is
1) like the US Airport screening it actually does not improve security on the whole but simply creates the illusion of such, allowing people to NOT do their job
2) the reason people are up in arms is , imagine your worst enemy with video/imagery of everything you've done in public / everywhere you've been and a google-esque super computer to search through it. Now imagine how that person could abuse that level of information especially if he/she had that info available for everyone literally at their fingertips.
Read 1984 if you haven't, also watch V for Vendetta:)
Give it time, Islam's still stuck in a little after the inquisition era christianity. The thing to do would be to encourage moderates while choking off fundamentalists (read primarily Saudi Arabia & Pakistan which provide the $$ and foot soldiers for fundo's. Funny that both are US Allies:))
No it's not. As a society we have decided that its worth it to fund public education. Why? because we believe that it helps our society at large. The same principle applies to the globe, by raising the level of intellectual discourse possible (education), by limiting the horrors other go through (disease, malnutrition) not only do we gain valuable allies (and by allies I mean people that actually care vs are in it for the $$$$) we gain respect and friends. If the US had spent the 400+ billion dollars on Iraq on helping the world, it could have turned around a bunch of 3rd world countries.
Heck if we had used the money on the so called war on terror, we may have been winning it instead of making it worse every step of the way. It's a battle of ideologies, if instead of presenting why you believe what you believe (freedom, democracy, education, science, rationality etc etc) you blow up those that oppose you the chance of your having any credibility are pretty close to zero (witness the 90% of the globe that dislike America and Bush being ranked higher then Bin Laden as a threat to global security).
Yes they went nuts on it, no questions asked but take a gander at the video footage of the 'kiss' was more gere forcing himself on the chic with her trying to back out... couple that with the largely existant scarred psyche from the colonial era it doesn't take much to ignite the hysteria
As someone else commented, he was an evil man. Yes not on par with Saddam, Hitler et al. but still evil. Why was the sight of people celebrating the death of a tyrant or a dictator a good thing vs celebrating the death of a man that was evil in a different way crass?
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The issue isn't simply having a dialogue with an ETI but rather just proof of their existance. It'll dramatically affect how we as a species view ourselves and our place in the universe. It'll also have profound effects on theologies of all sorts as well as inform and modify our behavior on a pretty significant scale (for better or worse)
Craigs List? Or any other classifieds variants. You're making the presumption that both of those are going to waste when in both cases you'll be passing them on to someone else who would've gotten them from another source otherwise (which could be new or used)
I don't think its about that per se. It's about finding and implementing the most efficient transportation mechanism. If you could develop a fully automated system, you wouldn't need to own cars since they could be available on demand. How many hours are cars driven vs garaged, one could reduce the total number of automobiles by a factor of 5 if not more.
I remember seeing an article on here a while ago about mass transit that went to each neighborhood but instead of trains were 4 passenger vehicles that were fully automated.
LOL Thats actually exactly what I did when she tried transferring me to Fios TV. I had to explain that it was new internet package and established credibility by saying it was on CNN!!!. Anyways calling the local offices was the tech's recommendation b/c neither she nor her boss had any info about the plan
Call up your local Verizon office to find out availability. I called the 8xx-get-fios number and they hadn't even heard of the plan.
I've just gone with Nvidia. My reasoning was along the lines of I need to use the system now. If/when ATI/AMD get enough specs out and everything is coded correctly, I can ebay/craigslist the nVidia and switch to ATI. I'm not holding my breath, as someone else said GPU's are complex, it'll take time for it to stabilize (and yes I'd prefer the open source version as well but I'm not willing to work with an unstable/minimally functionally system either)
I'm not a Dodd supporter. Would prefer Kucinich or Gravel to be in the white house, but showing support for anyone doing the right thing, financially or by volunteering or spreading the word etc is a good idea IMHO. Rewarding good behavior and all that.
The issue isn't ubuntu or linux per se but if the manufacturer supports linux or not. If they don't there's not much that can be done. Some people try to rewrite the drivers or wrap the windows drivers to run on Linux etc
Otoh isn't it more simple to just support (vote w/ur wallet) the companies that are linux friendly? There are lots of wireless cards that support linux.
I setup an edubuntu box recently and instead of trying to figure out how to get something to work, I simply looked up what is known to work and picked it up (from newegg and it has been working flawlessly.
They may not be in charge of day to day politics but they are in control of the hearts and minds of the populace. Where everything is referred to as justifiable by religion where 'religious scholars' influence the course of law-making they remain in control. The terms of the debate on daily life on rationality on free thought are largely set by the mullah's not the political leaders. Go to any muslim country and try to engage in a conversation about something that may contradict a mullah's pov and see how fast you'll meet closed minds and a cold shoulder if not significantly worse.
Would be interesting to see what guy gal ratio @ the parties will be 99:1? ;)
The issue is I believe we presume to have advanced societally from the point where entire civilizations were put under the sword. Now on the other hand if a particular religion died out because nobody believed in it anymore don't think anyone would cry except the last few people that believed (be that worshipers of Zeus, followers of the Talmud, Quran or anything else)
Um said agreement calls on us to eliminate our stockpile too which we've so far done an admirable job @ in the couple of decades since it was signed. All the people in the nuke club are worse offenders then Iran/Libya etc
The idea is to overspend on other things (such as the war in Iraq) / DoD etc so that the inevitable belt tightening from massive deficits causes social programs to be cut. Look up the programs cut in California since Bush came into power as a pseudo example (Those were specifically b/c of budgetary issues but the point being creating those issues has the consequence of downsizing the govt)
Depending on their motivation, as someone else said is this a big FU to Microsoft? If so wouldn't it make much more sense to start investing in Open Office to cover the deficiencies. Significantly cheaper and more effective then starting something up from scratch. OTOH if they have the resources to do it ground up and not die in the process more power to them
I've been messing with XEN for a week or two, thought it would help me out with debugging and maintaining multiple systems without the need for them. Picked up an AMD SVM CPU and tried it, running into a wall. The XEN list serv wasn't much help nor were the log files. In comparison Virtual PC 07 / VMWare on Windows worked flawlessly on the first try... I'd still prefer using XEN and might take a stab at KVM but wasting a week just to get to the boot screen without success was a little painful. FYI I tried CentOS and WinXP
So just do it on the freeways? How many days does the average driver hit 200 miles without hitting a freeway?
It's the other way around, not space exploration but 'earth' imagery taken from space. It's a GIS thing not a space thing, just that NASA has the satellites that do the actual imaging. From Wikipedia - "The Landsat program is the longest running enterprise for acquisition of imagery of Earth from space"
Where do i start?
1) Reread my previous message where I said I was a muslim not that I am one...
2) Muhammad lived with the jews for years until they broke the treaty of mutual defense that they had. The treaty was basically a joint defense pact of Madina against all external enemies. When they sided with the enemy they were treated as traitors. Yes their death was morally wrong but it was according to an agreement they signed on for and was decided by an arbitrar not Muhammad (read up No God But God by Reza Aslan)
3) I am not a muslim and even when I was I always believed the hadith are complete and utter bull shit. Heck there's a hadith from Sahih Muslim that quotes the prophet as saying that do not collect the hadith.
4) Just as Falwell does not represent the best of christianity so does Khomeini not do so.
5) Marriage w/o consent is expressly forbidden in Islam despite what some cultures do.
In any case I'm not saying that Islam is some sort of panacea or its right but thats true of all religions. If you want to judge any of them please do so but at least be accurate about it.
There is no such 'belief' about holocaust denial in Islam. I grew up as a muslim (Don't believe in religion per se at the moment) but the holocaust denial is a reaction to Israel and the resulting growing anti semitism in the muslim world. Linking it with the faith is a tad unfair
To put it simply , Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The issue is 1) like the US Airport screening it actually does not improve security on the whole but simply creates the illusion of such, allowing people to NOT do their job 2) the reason people are up in arms is , imagine your worst enemy with video/imagery of everything you've done in public / everywhere you've been and a google-esque super computer to search through it. Now imagine how that person could abuse that level of information especially if he/she had that info available for everyone literally at their fingertips. Read 1984 if you haven't, also watch V for Vendetta :)
Give it time, Islam's still stuck in a little after the inquisition era christianity. The thing to do would be to encourage moderates while choking off fundamentalists (read primarily Saudi Arabia & Pakistan which provide the $$ and foot soldiers for fundo's. Funny that both are US Allies :))
No it's not. As a society we have decided that its worth it to fund public education. Why? because we believe that it helps our society at large. The same principle applies to the globe, by raising the level of intellectual discourse possible (education), by limiting the horrors other go through (disease, malnutrition) not only do we gain valuable allies (and by allies I mean people that actually care vs are in it for the $$$$) we gain respect and friends. If the US had spent the 400+ billion dollars on Iraq on helping the world, it could have turned around a bunch of 3rd world countries.
Heck if we had used the money on the so called war on terror, we may have been winning it instead of making it worse every step of the way. It's a battle of ideologies, if instead of presenting why you believe what you believe (freedom, democracy, education, science, rationality etc etc) you blow up those that oppose you the chance of your having any credibility are pretty close to zero (witness the 90% of the globe that dislike America and Bush being ranked higher then Bin Laden as a threat to global security).
Yes they went nuts on it, no questions asked but take a gander at the video footage of the 'kiss' was more gere forcing himself on the chic with her trying to back out... couple that with the largely existant scarred psyche from the colonial era it doesn't take much to ignite the hysteria
As someone else commented, he was an evil man. Yes not on par with Saddam, Hitler et al. but still evil. Why was the sight of people celebrating the death of a tyrant or a dictator a good thing vs celebrating the death of a man that was evil in a different way crass?
Have Google build them a redundant cluster like Google's own, couple of thousand machines, couple of petabytes.... shouldn't be too hard :)