We, we been developing the product using SVG technology for a while now. We did not chose SVG over FLASH. Our options was HTML with javascript or Java applets.
So we chose SVG to work with.
At the beginning it looked exciting. Very clean graphics, alpha blending, easy effects like drop shadows. Nesting, a lot of little good things, e.g. you can set the line style. SVG look absolutely like mature standart.
So, the biggest problem is that the only existing SVG browser plugin from Adobe is too slow. And too big. Also cannot be installed automatically (unlike flash). To install you need to supply enduser with URL like www.adbee.com/svg and hope user will return from there with plugin installed.
In our application we have scripted code to hide 20+ objects (lines, rechangles, text.) and un-hide one. The operation take fraction os secod for processing Javascript, but redraw itself takes about 6-8 seconds ! Thats unsuitable for real production environment.
Comparing to latest Flash MX, SVG is still better, even that you have to edit SVG in editor like XML Spy (there is no serious SVG WYSIWYG development software exist at the moment). Flash MX with all its enhancements still feels like carrying the baggage from it's originator, FutureSplash.
If big names will decide to support SVG, it will absolutely kill Flash. - to put it in another way - if Microsoft will decide to support SVG natively in IE.
So, my advice would be; use SVG, it's the future. But if you're going to have interaction, scripting and stuff like that in, you better have some tests before you commit to SVG way.
Mozilla have NATIVE support. That is the right way. SVG should be (is going to be?) supported natively by browsers, just like native support for JPEG,PNG, HTML, plaintext.
65 miles up? Thats not a space flight. It's just a high altitude plane flight. They do such flights when they shoot movies about space stuff and need zero gravity. And you dont need specially built spaceship to have 3 minutes of zero gravity. High atitude place will go.
If that was a REAL space flight then it should have at least one time orbit around the earth and that would be much more than 3 minutes of zero gravity.
Like Slashdot is the right place for discussing this. Let's bring our problems here !
I need to extract MPEG2 form Echostar DVR-5000. Anyone done this ?
Why not create topic about this!?
Well, what a lame ass review that is.
They give almost nothing. Only that it's some king of client-server application that compressed webpages on-the-fly, someting similar to WAP client-server approach.
This mean it will work only in UK or whenever the server is supported by provider!! Or, at least the web browsing part of it.
It's more like they have read some marketing data and haven't used a real device.
How about contacts/email ? Does it sync to outlook ?
Does it sync to PC at all ?
OH come on. why Slashdot posters think that Slashdot=USA ? "We had it for a while" supposed to mean that we=USA.
This whole internet=USA thing is annoying.
That is exactly the story portrayed in the movie "At first sight" (iMDB link) starring Val Kilmer/Mira Sorvino.
The guy got his sight as result of medical treatment and he couldn't live with it.
That's so obvious!
The situation with PDA computers today is same as it was 10-15 years ago with Personal Computers. I mean, you know.. microsoft domination thing and all that..
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We, we been developing the product using SVG technology for a while now.
We did not chose SVG over FLASH.
Our options was HTML with javascript or Java applets.
So we chose SVG to work with.
At the beginning it looked exciting. Very clean graphics, alpha blending, easy effects like drop shadows. Nesting, a lot of little good things, e.g. you can set the line style. SVG look absolutely like mature standart.
So, the biggest problem is that the only existing SVG browser plugin from Adobe is too slow. And too big. Also cannot be installed automatically (unlike flash). To install you need to supply enduser with URL like www.adbee.com/svg and hope user will return from there with plugin installed.
In our application we have scripted code to hide 20+ objects (lines, rechangles, text.) and un-hide one. The operation take fraction os secod for processing Javascript, but redraw itself takes about 6-8 seconds ! Thats unsuitable for real production environment.
Comparing to latest Flash MX, SVG is still better, even that you have to edit SVG in editor like XML Spy (there is no serious SVG WYSIWYG development software exist at the moment).
Flash MX with all its enhancements still feels like carrying the baggage from it's originator, FutureSplash.
If big names will decide to support SVG, it will absolutely kill Flash. - to put it in another way - if Microsoft will decide to support SVG natively in IE.
So, my advice would be; use SVG, it's the future. But if you're going to have interaction, scripting and stuff like that in, you better have some tests before you commit to SVG way.
Mozilla have NATIVE support. That is the right way.
SVG should be (is going to be?) supported natively by browsers, just like native support for JPEG,PNG, HTML, plaintext.
65 miles up?
Thats not a space flight. It's just a high altitude plane flight.
They do such flights when they shoot movies about space stuff and need zero gravity.
And you dont need specially built spaceship to have 3 minutes of zero gravity. High atitude place will go.
If that was a REAL space flight then it should have at least one time orbit around the earth and that would be much more than 3 minutes of zero gravity.
But this is what windows CE is, too!
..but how this will affect our life ?
really ? except thiose "interesting facts" about light travelling yada yada..
I have echostar DVB5000 the satellite tuner with HDD recording. and it's simply the best!
Actually except Echostar, Nokia have satellite tuner with HDD recording.
Other companies catching up too..
Clearly this is the future.
Loki is name of character played by Matt Damon in "Dogma". Matt Damon is leader of FreeBSD team.
oh well.. just kidding.
Where is the story about FreeBSD 4.5 release ?
It's been a day since already.
We get slashdot story when every minor linux kernel gets out, isn't it ?
Why Linux? It's PLAYstation !
Like Slashdot is the right place for discussing this. Let's bring our problems here !
I need to extract MPEG2 form Echostar DVR-5000. Anyone done this ?
Why not create topic about this!?
The story should have Wine icon attached to it!
So, Romero is from Romania! Who could know..
Well, what a lame ass review that is.
They give almost nothing. Only that it's some king of client-server application that compressed webpages on-the-fly, someting similar to WAP client-server approach.
This mean it will work only in UK or whenever the server is supported by provider!! Or, at least the web browsing part of it.
It's more like they have read some marketing data and haven't used a real device.
How about contacts/email ? Does it sync to outlook ?
Does it sync to PC at all ?
That ain't real review.
Such long story about nothing.
Aren't we reading this every day?
now that's rude
OH come on. why Slashdot posters think that Slashdot=USA ? "We had it for a while" supposed to mean that we=USA.
This whole internet=USA thing is annoying.
Oh, just found out, Oliver Sacks wrote script for this movie.
That is exactly the story portrayed in the movie "At first sight" (iMDB link) starring Val Kilmer/Mira Sorvino. The guy got his sight as result of medical treatment and he couldn't live with it.
yes, Quake3 and others work but not CS !
That is the point.
ops..
In case you didn't knew- valid break is <BR/>,
but not </br>!
In case you didn't knew- valid break is ,
but not !
God damn. FIVE years ago!
They must have been inverned something better in this time. What a waste of Slashdot.
Well since Sony make Palm devices (Clie), the next step could be SONY buying Palm+Be...
That's so obvious! The situation with PDA computers today is same as it was 10-15 years ago with Personal Computers. I mean, you know.. microsoft domination thing and all that..
If windows is a cure from piracy, why we all take the medication being healthy?