Seriously, people do like downloading files, but many more appear to be happy to browse sites like youtube and its clones for videos, and imeem and it's blossoming collection of immitators for their music needs - not to mention the various agregator sites. Why download a client, share your bandwidth and put yourself at risk from getting sued by the RIAA/MPAA or at risk from wierd viruses from the sofware you're downloading when you can just upload your media to a website and proclaim to the world that you love it?
I mean the bigrecordlabels have signed on to allow free sharing of music via imeem and that in itself must take a huge number of potential file sharers out of the equation.
Sure the videos aren't really dvd quality yet, and while the music may be cd quality it's still bound up in a browser, but you can't beat the price, convenience or the fact that it's instant and on demand.
The same OS limitations exist for the sites that are providing free music SpiralFrog lets you download only and needs a special active X control so it's effectively Windows + IE users only, imeem on the other hand is streaming only, but works on anything that can run a reasonably up to date flash player.
imeem easily has the best selection of music on this side of a dodgy p2p network, I think Universal is the only label that hasnt signed a deal with them, and on top of that is millions of user uploaded tracks. Spiral frog has a few major labels.
Of course this means that neither site supports the iPod
I mean all the news stories refer to GHB as a date rape drug, which is just stupid journalistic sensationalism, GHB is far more commonly used as a 'rave drug', and there are more date rape accusations resulting from plain old alcohol induced leglessness.
Not to mention that GHB is so salty and dangerous to mix with alcohol that you couldn't spike a drink with it. But the way the news continues to label it as a 'date rape' drug largely serves to perpetuate the idea and endanger people who end up taking too many hints from the news media.
Even when people know what they're doing it's bad news waiting to happen, and giving it to other people is irresposible. Putting it into kids toys to save a bit of money in manufacturing is just pure evil.
The Lucky Camera for astronomy technique has been used by amateurs for years. The Elasitc space suit was a concept going back to the 60's. Injectying water into engines is a technique that's been used for decades.
These guys should edit slashdot.
I had sirius as part of my satellite TV package and the only radio I found worth listening to in the evenings was their feed from BBC radio 1, the other stations were lazily programmed automated nichecasts or lazily dj'd channels with annoying hosts. I realised that many american radio dj's are less interesting that the commercials which interrupt their show.
I don't want to sound like a broken record but...
imeem.com has gone one step further than #1 - centralized database *and* centralised data - all the mp3s get uploaded to the site and are instantly accessible to anyone else on imeem.
as for whether it's popular, it's top 100 on Alexa but we all know those stats mean nothing.
This comes the same week that imeem announced a deal with EMI - adding on to Sony, BMG, Warners and a ton of smaller indie labels. For online experience there's no way the official napster can compete against imeem - imeem is like youtube for mp3's, users upload their music collections to their profiles and then anyone can listen to them instantly. imeem uses snocap's audio id system to figure out who gets paid, and we all know that snocap was created by shawn fanning, so imeem is the new napster
1) upload and share mp3, oggs and other audio to share with everyone, no need to create a stupid one frame video to make it acceptable to youtube
2) Upload photos
3) Playlisting of everything, and the ability to mashup things - i.e. photo slideshow + music
4) Some decent social functions
5) Better video quality than youtube's crappy 320x240
imeem is a great example of how media filtering can work to everyone's advantage, after you upload your mp3's their media filtering figures out what the track is you've just uploaded and depending on the results the music will be shared in youtube style either as a full length track with the copyright holder getting a cut of the advertising, or if the copyright holder has said no it'll just be a 30 second sample with links to iTunes/amazon to buy.
imeem is using snocap for their song fingerprinting - if you rememebr snocap was originally seen as a plugin to a p2p sharing network, but the folks at imeem seem to have done away with the p2p part and just let users upload the music straight to their website. So it's like napster, except that it provides instant gratification, no waiting to listen to the track, or find out that the link is merely a 'broken' sample.
If you go to imeem.com you can listen to practically any track ever recorded without actually paying anything directly to the site, instead the site is making money of advertising and has deals with the record labels to pay them a cut of thise. So I wonder if this would be taxed? No transaction is taking place in Canada, well except when canadian artists get paid their share I guess, but that's probably well beyond the scope of the law.
Spiralfrog already offers 'DRM' tied downloads supported by advertising for some major labels, the downloads can be copied to 'plays for sure' media players but not burned to CD. Of course because it uses windows DRM its Windows + Internet Explorer only
Meanwhile imeem AKA 'youtube for music' lets you stream music uploaded by its users, providing the music is licensed from Sony, BMG, Warners or one of their other partners, it's a cooler approach in some ways because the user generated side of things gives you access to stuff that would never be heard on a catalog driven site. It works in any browser with a flash plugin so it's totally multiplatform, providing you just want to listen rather than download(and rate, comment, tag and all those other social things).
It seems to me that ad supported content is now the way to go.
Of course, I'm now waiting for myspace to ban youtube again the moment they start displaying ads in their embedded player, I don't think myspace ever unbanned revver or imeem - despite changes to their players and business models (imeem is too much of a threat to myspace's music fan market, revver is just a small fish and easy to intimidate)
Facebook may replicate it, but they tend to be better behaved than myspace who like to block applications from their site - youtube, photobucket, revver, imeem, hoooka have all been blocked from myspace. A myspace exec even made a comment that if they'd seen youtube sooner they would have shut it down and stopped it becoming the titan they are, with imeem they don't intend to make that mistake again. (you can't eve say imeem.com without it getting edited)
I tell you what, I'll race you, I'll go to imeem.com and search for music by say.... Peanut Butter Wolf, and at the same time you go on p2p and look for the same. I'll wager I'll be finished listening to her latest single before your download even start
imeem were getting sued by Warners for illegal use of their music, but after some closed door dealing they had a change of heart and accepted imeem's freind request....
imeem is a great site, it's like your favourite file sharing app with all the files in one place so their available instantly, the downside is that unlisenced stuff gets turned into 30 second previews. But there's plenty of instantly listenable music available.
By refusing to deal with digital music sites back in the late 90's and early 2000's they essentiually forced them all out of business, and when musicnet and pressplay - their own sites failed because they were designed by the record execs they ended up with apple being the one game in town that could sell their music just as their bottom line cd sales were beiginning to collapse.
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Seriously, people do like downloading files, but many more appear to be happy to browse sites like youtube and its clones for videos, and imeem and it's blossoming collection of immitators for their music needs - not to mention the various agregator sites. Why download a client, share your bandwidth and put yourself at risk from getting sued by the RIAA/MPAA or at risk from wierd viruses from the sofware you're downloading when you can just upload your media to a website and proclaim to the world that you love it? I mean the big record labels have signed on to allow free sharing of music via imeem and that in itself must take a huge number of potential file sharers out of the equation. Sure the videos aren't really dvd quality yet, and while the music may be cd quality it's still bound up in a browser, but you can't beat the price, convenience or the fact that it's instant and on demand.
The same OS limitations exist for the sites that are providing free music SpiralFrog lets you download only and needs a special active X control so it's effectively Windows + IE users only, imeem on the other hand is streaming only, but works on anything that can run a reasonably up to date flash player. imeem easily has the best selection of music on this side of a dodgy p2p network, I think Universal is the only label that hasnt signed a deal with them, and on top of that is millions of user uploaded tracks. Spiral frog has a few major labels. Of course this means that neither site supports the iPod
I mean all the news stories refer to GHB as a date rape drug, which is just stupid journalistic sensationalism, GHB is far more commonly used as a 'rave drug', and there are more date rape accusations resulting from plain old alcohol induced leglessness. Not to mention that GHB is so salty and dangerous to mix with alcohol that you couldn't spike a drink with it. But the way the news continues to label it as a 'date rape' drug largely serves to perpetuate the idea and endanger people who end up taking too many hints from the news media. Even when people know what they're doing it's bad news waiting to happen, and giving it to other people is irresposible. Putting it into kids toys to save a bit of money in manufacturing is just pure evil.
The Lucky Camera for astronomy technique has been used by amateurs for years. The Elasitc space suit was a concept going back to the 60's. Injectying water into engines is a technique that's been used for decades. These guys should edit slashdot.
I had sirius as part of my satellite TV package and the only radio I found worth listening to in the evenings was their feed from BBC radio 1, the other stations were lazily programmed automated nichecasts or lazily dj'd channels with annoying hosts. I realised that many american radio dj's are less interesting that the commercials which interrupt their show.
That's better odds than the people they're giving licenses to in this country.
Don't get me wrong, the PSP graphics are impressive for the size, but we're talking about the lowest quality version of this game.
I don't want to sound like a broken record but... imeem.com has gone one step further than #1 - centralized database *and* centralised data - all the mp3s get uploaded to the site and are instantly accessible to anyone else on imeem. as for whether it's popular, it's top 100 on Alexa but we all know those stats mean nothing.
oh... and I forgot to mention it's entirly free (ad supported) and works using flash player so it let me listen on my linux desktop out of the box.
This comes the same week that imeem announced a deal with EMI - adding on to Sony, BMG, Warners and a ton of smaller indie labels. For online experience there's no way the official napster can compete against imeem - imeem is like youtube for mp3's, users upload their music collections to their profiles and then anyone can listen to them instantly. imeem uses snocap's audio id system to figure out who gets paid, and we all know that snocap was created by shawn fanning, so imeem is the new napster
1) upload and share mp3, oggs and other audio to share with everyone, no need to create a stupid one frame video to make it acceptable to youtube 2) Upload photos 3) Playlisting of everything, and the ability to mashup things - i.e. photo slideshow + music 4) Some decent social functions 5) Better video quality than youtube's crappy 320x240
imeem is a great example of how media filtering can work to everyone's advantage, after you upload your mp3's their media filtering figures out what the track is you've just uploaded and depending on the results the music will be shared in youtube style either as a full length track with the copyright holder getting a cut of the advertising, or if the copyright holder has said no it'll just be a 30 second sample with links to iTunes/amazon to buy. imeem is using snocap for their song fingerprinting - if you rememebr snocap was originally seen as a plugin to a p2p sharing network, but the folks at imeem seem to have done away with the p2p part and just let users upload the music straight to their website. So it's like napster, except that it provides instant gratification, no waiting to listen to the track, or find out that the link is merely a 'broken' sample.
If you go to imeem.com you can listen to practically any track ever recorded without actually paying anything directly to the site, instead the site is making money of advertising and has deals with the record labels to pay them a cut of thise. So I wonder if this would be taxed? No transaction is taking place in Canada, well except when canadian artists get paid their share I guess, but that's probably well beyond the scope of the law.
Spiralfrog already offers 'DRM' tied downloads supported by advertising for some major labels, the downloads can be copied to 'plays for sure' media players but not burned to CD. Of course because it uses windows DRM its Windows + Internet Explorer only Meanwhile imeem AKA 'youtube for music' lets you stream music uploaded by its users, providing the music is licensed from Sony, BMG, Warners or one of their other partners, it's a cooler approach in some ways because the user generated side of things gives you access to stuff that would never be heard on a catalog driven site. It works in any browser with a flash plugin so it's totally multiplatform, providing you just want to listen rather than download(and rate, comment, tag and all those other social things).
It seems to me that ad supported content is now the way to go. Of course, I'm now waiting for myspace to ban youtube again the moment they start displaying ads in their embedded player, I don't think myspace ever unbanned revver or imeem - despite changes to their players and business models (imeem is too much of a threat to myspace's music fan market, revver is just a small fish and easy to intimidate)
yes because that would be too complicated, instead the venue that hosts you pays a flat fee for being able to play music.
Facebook may replicate it, but they tend to be better behaved than myspace who like to block applications from their site - youtube, photobucket, revver, imeem, hoooka have all been blocked from myspace. A myspace exec even made a comment that if they'd seen youtube sooner they would have shut it down and stopped it becoming the titan they are, with imeem they don't intend to make that mistake again. (you can't eve say imeem.com without it getting edited)
I tell you what, I'll race you, I'll go to imeem.com and search for music by say.... Peanut Butter Wolf, and at the same time you go on p2p and look for the same. I'll wager I'll be finished listening to her latest single before your download even start
I noticed that story last week, I'm surprised that slashdot never picked it up.
imeem were getting sued by Warners for illegal use of their music, but after some closed door dealing they had a change of heart and accepted imeem's freind request.... imeem is a great site, it's like your favourite file sharing app with all the files in one place so their available instantly, the downside is that unlisenced stuff gets turned into 30 second previews. But there's plenty of instantly listenable music available.
I'm still anchored in my love for tactile product, I'll stick to cd's for now.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
Even if they get to second place behind emusic they'll still have a long way to go to get to iTunes level.
By refusing to deal with digital music sites back in the late 90's and early 2000's they essentiually forced them all out of business, and when musicnet and pressplay - their own sites failed because they were designed by the record execs they ended up with apple being the one game in town that could sell their music just as their bottom line cd sales were beiginning to collapse.
34 Million users => each user is worth 300$???