Game is such a vague word, because many innocent programs can be treated as a game.
Just try to find a cell phone that DOESN'T have games... that Ipod, oh that's illegal. Typing Tutor programs for schools, they probably contain games too... Oh and I doubt they intended to ban internet chess.
Then there's the borderline games. Can online paint programs be a game? MUDs are games, but are MUSH'es? What about chat rooms that people play AD&D in... When google had its online coding competition, does that make coding a game?
It even bans mechanical games... no pinball, no foosball, no airhockey. Is bowling a mechanical game? Hell there's mechanical games in summer olympics... skeet shooting, cycling and archery should all be canceled, arrest the competitors...
The question I have is why is Greece so different about gambling problems that they had it going underground? I understand they'd have video games hacked to be turned into gambling, but why isn't that a big problem in other countries? It seems to me that if people wanted to gamble they could travel to neighboring countries, Greece is in EU right?
Yelling fire in a theatre is a ridiculous example, because its focus is not on the idea you are expressing, but on the action you are doing, which isn't allowed - yelling in a theatre.
Really? if there's really a fire and you yell fire, is that disallowed?
Yes you couldn't yell gibberish either. That will get you kicked out as a nuisance. But yelling fire could get you arrested for inciting a panic.
But according to what you say, writing a note that says "there's a bomb under my seat" and passing it to an usher would be perfectly acceptable. If that usher shouts out "Bomb", who would be found liable, the notewriter or the shouter?
The biggest reason to vote for a fringe party is because if they get a significant percent of the vote, the major parties will try to integrate it into their platform.
So even if a minor party strives hard to get 4% of the vote... it's a win, because 4% is enough to make a difference between D and R, so both parties will want it.
I'm not arguing about the conclusions they found. But when I hear this argument that scientists should be trusted because their job is seeking truth... It's like saying that lawyers should be trusted because their job is seeking justice.
Most scientists get their money either from Academia or by Grants. Academia is a political tool.. and grants are how you buy scientists to research your conclusion. Where are the scientists that aren't for sale? I'd assume likely poor.
" No lawyer working for "the company" will ever include language that makes it clear what the company doesn't claim ownership of"... unless they're worried about becoming liable for it.
[Romeo and Juliet awaken, rubbing their eyes] Romeo What the heck was that big scene all about? Juliet Who knows? I just passed out for a second and everybody's losing it. Luckily the dagger wasn't sharp. Romeo And the apothecary screwed up big-time! What do you say we head home? Juliet Sounds like a plan, my medieval man! [Exeunt Romeo and Juliet hand in hand]
How romantic, let's go mutilate some classics together for our wedding! Oooh sounds like fun, you can be Dracula and I'll be Alice and we can romp around wonderland together!
Lets be real, how do you get a decent sampling pool to make a statistic of average penis size.
If you ask for volunteers you won't get the insecure men. If you have penis doctors (Wangologists?) provide measurements, you get a larger sample of men with problems (enough that they warranted visiting doctor).
The best way obviously is to take a nonvoluntary random sampling across the country (or world). I suggest they abduct men off the street and have playboy bunnies forcefully measure their wang. It will still miss all the slashdotters on their computer in their mother's basement.. but they don't matter since they have no use for their wang anyways.
I suspect the owners of those cameras were not involved in the activity, so it would not be legally admissible evidence, at least if it were taken by a civilian.
"What if you purchase a new butchers knife they day before a someone gets killed with one and end up being a suspect because the police decides it's easier to use surveillance than spend time looking for real evidence?"
You have evidence of your alibi being elsewhere thanks to surveillance.
What happens if there was no surveillance and the above situation still happens. You can't prove you were elsewhere when it happened.
It might surprise you that I am currently trying to get surveillance cameras installed at a local school. However, here the purpose is not total surveillance, but to increase the physical security of the kids and to decrease vandalism. Ordinary people are not affected since they have no business on the school campus anyway.
Place surveillance cameras across a whole country, to increase the physical security of the citizens and decrease vandalism. Illegal immigrants won't be effected since they have no business in our country anyways!
Do you really think Britain isn't doing this to protect people?? you and they have the same reasons: security of the people. Granted the second line doesn't make sense, even in your statement. It seems to me you're conceding the students/teachers should enjoy the cameras because it's for their protection, but outsiders won't like it because it doesn't give them the benefit (increased security).
The whole idea behind surveillance is a tradeoff. I think the increased safety/deterrence is worth the trade off in privacy. There's plenty of freedoms we don't have for the same reason. We can't dump toxic waste (why does no one complain about this loss of freedom) because it increases the safety of society.
Freedoms are gradually taken away, great.. would you want to live in the world with the same freedoms of uncivilized times?
Yes and I'm still miffed that I lost my freedom to dump toxic waste in drinking water. Why can't I take guns on airlines? Why can't I have the freedom to molest young children?
There are lots of "freedoms" that should NOT be granted for the interest of society. This cameras sounds like a good one. Do people really have an expectation of privacy when they're on public streets?
I'd love to see national ID's, I don't even understand the privacy argument against it. It's simple the government needs a way to identify it's citizens. Licenses and SSN just don't work, since they weren't designed to be used as ID's.
I'd love to see black boxes in cars. It defends society, it defends me. When some jerk can't control his car and causes a freeway pileup. Guess what, they'll be able to see they're going 80 in the rain.
Hell I'd go so far to say everyone should have a tracking tag (RFID doesn't have the range) that goes into a database that can only be opened by subpoena. That'd be a real deterrent for crime if they can identify who's present when the crime occured. It'd also be great for medical purposes, with alerts if someone's biometrics go out of whack (heart attack etc)
Some people are so concerned with the rights of even the criminals that they can't think of the health of society as a whole.
Yes we should get rid of the dollar and go to the Triganic Pu. Its exchange rate of eight Ningis to one Pu is simple enough, but since a Ningi is a triangular rubber coin six thousand eight hundred miles along each side, no one has ever counterfeited enough to own one Pu.
It's that kind of thought that causes bloat in documentation. Lets put it this way if the labelling was mandatory, let's look at how a business risk analysis will go:
-How many sales will you lose with an epileptic warning? very few -What is the chance our game can flash in some possiblity? High (almost all 3d games) -How much will it cost if game causes a seizure (and lacking mandatory labelling)? a lot
In otherwords, the warning would be meaningless because it'd be on every game.
The problem is how does the maker of a game tell if it can cause seizures. Even the most innocent of games can cause flashing in ackward situations. It's better off to assume that ALL games (especially any 3d games) have the potentiality to cause a seizure. The proper step is for the epileptic community to form a list of epileptic safe games.
-A poster above suggested a plane in a tailspin, where the sky was a light blue and the ground is dark, if it spins at the appropriate frequency it will flash light and dark.
-If the player ducks behind a crate and peeks out at the right rate to see a light in front of them.. can cause a flashing.
-A bug that if you press up against a wall, it intermittently causes your FOV to clip through it.
How could a gamemaker POSSIBLY investigate every possible circumstance that may cause a flashing. If it was mandatory to post a warning, every game would post they're a risk. THen every TV/monitor would also have to post they're a risk (since the games can be played on them).. in otherwords the warnings would be useless.
Do they have built-in correction for magnetic deviation? The analog watch technique gives you true north. btw It's magnetic declination.. where I am it's about 15 degrees east. Even if that can't be inputted into compass and I don't account for it... I still don't think analog method would get better accuracy
The analog gives you true north with a very large error propagation. Errors are introduced by timezones (4 discrete time zones for US), where as the hour hand should move continously across the timezone if you wanted a true north.
It also introduces error when noon isn't exactly midday, which is quite common, daylight savings time totally screwing it up.
I'd bet for most places (not high and low longitudes) an accurate magnetic north gives a better estimate to true north then that method for true north through estimating with an analog watch.
To be honest I've never been in a real situation where I'd need more accuracy then about 30 degrees though. In fact all the trivia I picked up in boy scouts was a waste;)
Yes but its easier to face the hour hand at the direction of your shadow then the sun since it's on the same plane as you. But this also reverses the directions.
That said there's no reason you can't figure out direction with digital watches, if you already understand how that works. (also many digital watches have compasses in them)
What most hurt the sales of their games is that they were released at same time at the peak of game releases.
According to Gamefaqs for PS2: XIII 11/18/03 PoP 11/06/03 BGaE 11/11/03
The did a lot of marketting, but they didn't explain the gameplay of the games, they tried to market them by graphics/story. They did nothing to try and differentiate themselves from the other releases. This put them in a position of competing with themselves and the million other xmas games.
Xmas is overrated. There is way to much competition, plus its plagued with buggiest games. I never buy a game that is released after Thanksgiving, because its sure to be a rushed product. They could of better spaced their games over a longer timeframe.
I've only played PoP and BGaE and they were both great games but really short as well. Maybe they were hoping people would finish PoP in the 5 days before BGaE, so they'd buy it too.. but thats reason not to buy it for people who want more playtime for their buck.
Ah but you're assuming that 30-40 years down the line that the Indian economy will still be lower then the US economy. Maybe they can move back after the US economy collapses.
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"The fewer issue ads run, the more time there is for ads with mud-wrestling women selling beer and leggy models peddling fast cars. CBS execs think Americans love mindless consumerism more than anything else and that it's their duty to pander to this."
Which is exactly the point the ad in question likely will cause people to change channels... so why should CBS be obligated to play it. Blame the viewers for this if you want.
CBS's goal is viewership, which do you think the viewers want to see, half-naked models or political ads. Keep in mind this is a group of viewers that are watching the superbowl, which is also famed for it's amusing commercials.
There's no obligation for CBS to play an ad that can be potentially harmful for their business. There's also no reason the viewers should be obligated to see an ad.
MoveOn: We know whats best for this country. You have to let us teach your unwashed masses CBS: We know what our unwashed masses want to see and they don't want to be taught. Unwashed Masses: Me want see big men bash into eachother! oooh model got big boobs, I drink budweiser I get woman with big boobs!
There's lot of people out there that WANT to cause unhappiness in the viewers, why should the viewers be forced to that. On a station that was obligated to play whatever was paid for, it'd be chaos. Would you like to see ad spots where the pro-life shows aborted fetuses during dinnertime? Where violence is encouraged against minorities? Where PETA shows the slaughterhouses?
No thanks, when I watch TV I watch it for the programming... when I want to learn about issues, I read.
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Game is such a vague word, because many innocent programs can be treated as a game.
Just try to find a cell phone that DOESN'T have games... that Ipod, oh that's illegal. Typing Tutor programs for schools, they probably contain games too... Oh and I doubt they intended to ban internet chess.
Then there's the borderline games. Can online paint programs be a game? MUDs are games, but are MUSH'es? What about chat rooms that people play AD&D in... When google had its online coding competition, does that make coding a game?
It even bans mechanical games... no pinball, no foosball, no airhockey. Is bowling a mechanical game? Hell there's mechanical games in summer olympics... skeet shooting, cycling and archery should all be canceled, arrest the competitors...
The question I have is why is Greece so different about gambling problems that they had it going underground? I understand they'd have video games hacked to be turned into gambling, but why isn't that a big problem in other countries? It seems to me that if people wanted to gamble they could travel to neighboring countries, Greece is in EU right?
Yelling fire in a theatre is a ridiculous example, because its focus is not on the idea you are expressing, but on the action you are doing, which isn't allowed - yelling in a theatre.
Really? if there's really a fire and you yell fire, is that disallowed?
Yes you couldn't yell gibberish either. That will get you kicked out as a nuisance. But yelling fire could get you arrested for inciting a panic.
But according to what you say, writing a note that says "there's a bomb under my seat" and passing it to an usher would be perfectly acceptable. If that usher shouts out "Bomb", who would be found liable, the notewriter or the shouter?
thoroughly play through Fallout:Tactics before resuming my job hunt.
:P
even though this wasn't a gaming company
If it was a gaming company they wouldn't of hired you for bad taste
The biggest reason to vote for a fringe party is because if they get a significant percent of the vote, the major parties will try to integrate it into their platform.
So even if a minor party strives hard to get 4% of the vote... it's a win, because 4% is enough to make a difference between D and R, so both parties will want it.
I'm pretty sure I saw that documentary. But if I recall both the tentacle monster and schoolgirl enjoyed it. Therefore BPL is a good thing.
I'm not arguing about the conclusions they found. But when I hear this argument that scientists should be trusted because their job is seeking truth... It's like saying that lawyers should be trusted because their job is seeking justice.
Most scientists get their money either from Academia or by Grants. Academia is a political tool.. and grants are how you buy scientists to research your conclusion. Where are the scientists that aren't for sale? I'd assume likely poor.
" No lawyer working for "the company" will ever include language that makes it clear what the company doesn't claim ownership of" ... unless they're worried about becoming liable for it.
Did you go to the site??!!
[Romeo and Juliet awaken, rubbing their eyes]
Romeo What the heck was that big scene all about?
Juliet Who knows? I just passed out for a second and everybody's losing it. Luckily the dagger wasn't sharp.
Romeo And the apothecary screwed up big-time! What do you say we head home?
Juliet Sounds like a plan, my medieval man!
[Exeunt Romeo and Juliet hand in hand]
How romantic, let's go mutilate some classics together for our wedding!
Oooh sounds like fun, you can be Dracula and I'll be Alice and we can romp around wonderland together!
Lets be real, how do you get a decent sampling pool to make a statistic of average penis size.
If you ask for volunteers you won't get the insecure men.
If you have penis doctors (Wangologists?) provide measurements, you get a larger sample of men with problems (enough that they warranted visiting doctor).
The best way obviously is to take a nonvoluntary random sampling across the country (or world). I suggest they abduct men off the street and have playboy bunnies forcefully measure their wang. It will still miss all the slashdotters on their computer in their mother's basement.. but they don't matter since they have no use for their wang anyways.
Ahem, I'm here all week. Try the veal...
But according to PETA eating veal (or any meat) can lead to smaller penises or impotence. (of course it's all BS)
http://www.peta.org/feat/parade/ban.html
Can you imagine US politicians standing up and proudly supporting them in the same way as they do for the music distributors?
I swear the otherday Orrin Hatch came out and said he'd support a new law to ban p2p because porno of him was being pirated.
I suspect the owners of those cameras were not involved in the activity, so it would not be legally admissible evidence, at least if it were taken by a civilian.
Two words: Rodney King.
Are you implying the Boston Tea Party wasn't terrorism.
Or in geek terms, the Death Star being destroyed was also terrorism.
Until they win, then it becomes a revolution.
"What if you purchase a new butchers knife they day before a someone gets killed with one and end up being a suspect because the police decides it's easier to use surveillance than spend time looking for real evidence?"
You have evidence of your alibi being elsewhere thanks to surveillance.
What happens if there was no surveillance and the above situation still happens. You can't prove you were elsewhere when it happened.
Surveillance works both ways.
It might surprise you that I am currently trying to get surveillance cameras installed at a local school. However, here the purpose is not total surveillance, but to increase the physical security of the kids and to decrease vandalism. Ordinary people are not affected since they have no business on the school campus anyway.
Place surveillance cameras across a whole country, to increase the physical security of the citizens and decrease vandalism. Illegal immigrants won't be effected since they have no business in our country anyways!
Do you really think Britain isn't doing this to protect people?? you and they have the same reasons: security of the people. Granted the second line doesn't make sense, even in your statement. It seems to me you're conceding the students/teachers should enjoy the cameras because it's for their protection, but outsiders won't like it because it doesn't give them the benefit (increased security).
The whole idea behind surveillance is a tradeoff. I think the increased safety/deterrence is worth the trade off in privacy. There's plenty of freedoms we don't have for the same reason. We can't dump toxic waste (why does no one complain about this loss of freedom) because it increases the safety of society.
Freedoms are gradually taken away, great.. would you want to live in the world with the same freedoms of uncivilized times?
Yes and I'm still miffed that I lost my freedom to dump toxic waste in drinking water. Why can't I take guns on airlines? Why can't I have the freedom to molest young children?
There are lots of "freedoms" that should NOT be granted for the interest of society. This cameras sounds like a good one. Do people really have an expectation of privacy when they're on public streets?
I'd love to see national ID's, I don't even understand the privacy argument against it. It's simple the government needs a way to identify it's citizens. Licenses and SSN just don't work, since they weren't designed to be used as ID's.
I'd love to see black boxes in cars. It defends society, it defends me. When some jerk can't control his car and causes a freeway pileup. Guess what, they'll be able to see they're going 80 in the rain.
Hell I'd go so far to say everyone should have a tracking tag (RFID doesn't have the range) that goes into a database that can only be opened by subpoena. That'd be a real deterrent for crime if they can identify who's present when the crime occured. It'd also be great for medical purposes, with alerts if someone's biometrics go out of whack (heart attack etc)
Some people are so concerned with the rights of even the criminals that they can't think of the health of society as a whole.
Yes we should get rid of the dollar and go to the Triganic Pu. Its exchange rate of eight Ningis to one Pu is simple enough, but since a Ningi is a triangular rubber coin six thousand eight hundred miles along each side, no one has ever counterfeited enough to own one Pu.
It's that kind of thought that causes bloat in documentation. Lets put it this way if the labelling was mandatory, let's look at how a business risk analysis will go:
-How many sales will you lose with an epileptic warning? very few
-What is the chance our game can flash in some possiblity? High (almost all 3d games)
-How much will it cost if game causes a seizure (and lacking mandatory labelling)? a lot
In otherwords, the warning would be meaningless because it'd be on every game.
The problem is how does the maker of a game tell if it can cause seizures. Even the most innocent of games can cause flashing in ackward situations. It's better off to assume that ALL games (especially any 3d games) have the potentiality to cause a seizure. The proper step is for the epileptic community to form a list of epileptic safe games.
-A poster above suggested a plane in a tailspin, where the sky was a light blue and the ground is dark, if it spins at the appropriate frequency it will flash light and dark.
-If the player ducks behind a crate and peeks out at the right rate to see a light in front of them.. can cause a flashing.
-A bug that if you press up against a wall, it intermittently causes your FOV to clip through it.
How could a gamemaker POSSIBLY investigate every possible circumstance that may cause a flashing. If it was mandatory to post a warning, every game would post they're a risk. THen every TV/monitor would also have to post they're a risk (since the games can be played on them).. in otherwords the warnings would be useless.
Do they have built-in correction for magnetic deviation? The analog watch technique gives you true north.
;)
btw It's magnetic declination.. where I am it's about 15 degrees east. Even if that can't be inputted into compass and I don't account for it... I still don't think analog method would get better accuracy
The analog gives you true north with a very large error propagation. Errors are introduced by timezones (4 discrete time zones for US), where as the hour hand should move continously across the timezone if you wanted a true north.
It also introduces error when noon isn't exactly midday, which is quite common, daylight savings time totally screwing it up.
I'd bet for most places (not high and low longitudes) an accurate magnetic north gives a better estimate to true north then that method for true north through estimating with an analog watch.
To be honest I've never been in a real situation where I'd need more accuracy then about 30 degrees though. In fact all the trivia I picked up in boy scouts was a waste
Yes but its easier to face the hour hand at the direction of your shadow then the sun since it's on the same plane as you. But this also reverses the directions.
That said there's no reason you can't figure out direction with digital watches, if you already understand how that works. (also many digital watches have compasses in them)
What most hurt the sales of their games is that they were released at same time at the peak of game releases.
According to Gamefaqs for PS2:
XIII 11/18/03
PoP 11/06/03
BGaE 11/11/03
The did a lot of marketting, but they didn't explain the gameplay of the games, they tried to market them by graphics/story. They did nothing to try and differentiate themselves from the other releases. This put them in a position of competing with themselves and the million other xmas games.
Xmas is overrated. There is way to much competition, plus its plagued with buggiest games. I never buy a game that is released after Thanksgiving, because its sure to be a rushed product. They could of better spaced their games over a longer timeframe.
I've only played PoP and BGaE and they were both great games but really short as well. Maybe they were hoping people would finish PoP in the 5 days before BGaE, so they'd buy it too.. but thats reason not to buy it for people who want more playtime for their buck.
Sweet sounds like a great game. I hope they make the poisonflies look really creepy looking and you have to use a flamethrower to kill them.
Plus tightrope walking as someone shoots rockets at you, I'd prally fall too.
Ah but you're assuming that 30-40 years down the line that the Indian economy will still be lower then the US economy. Maybe they can move back after the US economy collapses.
"The fewer issue ads run, the more time there is for ads with mud-wrestling women selling beer and leggy models peddling fast cars. CBS execs think Americans love mindless consumerism more than anything else and that it's their duty to pander to this."
... when I want to learn about issues, I read.
Which is exactly the point the ad in question likely will cause people to change channels... so why should CBS be obligated to play it. Blame the viewers for this if you want.
CBS's goal is viewership, which do you think the viewers want to see, half-naked models or political ads. Keep in mind this is a group of viewers that are watching the superbowl, which is also famed for it's amusing commercials.
There's no obligation for CBS to play an ad that can be potentially harmful for their business. There's also no reason the viewers should be obligated to see an ad.
MoveOn: We know whats best for this country. You have to let us teach your unwashed masses
CBS: We know what our unwashed masses want to see and they don't want to be taught.
Unwashed Masses: Me want see big men bash into eachother! oooh model got big boobs, I drink budweiser I get woman with big boobs!
There's lot of people out there that WANT to cause unhappiness in the viewers, why should the viewers be forced to that. On a station that was obligated to play whatever was paid for, it'd be chaos. Would you like to see ad spots where the pro-life shows aborted fetuses during dinnertime? Where violence is encouraged against minorities? Where PETA shows the slaughterhouses?
No thanks, when I watch TV I watch it for the programming