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"October 21, 2004 Game Publishers: Stop Overpromising!
Overhyped Videogames FableWhen Fable came out, everyone got to see if all the hype (and cool features expressed by Lionhead Studio head Peter Molyneux) is worth anything. Depending on where you go, you'll find glowing reviews to so-so reviews, mostly depending on if that person expected more (with good reason), or could just live with what the game actually provides. I personally feel that game reviews should be based on what the game has done right and wrong, rather than what I wanted to see, resulting in nitpicking every little detail.
But in this case, is it wrong to expect more? The Gear Live editors present their case after the jump.
Dorian: Look at companies like Nintendo, Valve and Bungie for instance.
Nintendo almost never reveals much about their games before release. The bulk of the game is left for us to explore on our own, and I think most gamers are the better for it.
Valve did the unthinkable, and for almost five years managed to develop Half-Life 2 without revealing anything until E3 right before last September's ill-fated launch (forget arguments about how ready they actually were).
Bungie has been very tight-lipped about Halo 2, at least as far as single player is concerned. Outside of the 10 minute footage of New Mombasa from last year's E3, almost nothing has been revealed, leaving all the details about what was not in the first Halo: Online Multiplayer.
We can probably think of other examples of game devs who kept their mouths shut and left most of their cards up their sleeves. But Lionhead Studios didn't manage to do that; they told us every single idea that popped up in their heads, as if they were brainstorming their ideas out in public. While not outright promising these features, most gamers were expecting more than what they got. Is that so wrong in this case?
Also in the news is Polyphony Digital's long waited Gran Turismo 4, and the stripping of the online multiplayer mode. While they gave no exact reason, one can extrapolate that they couldn't get online working in time for the holidays, and Sony didn't want to let their potentially biggest seller release past the lucrative holiday season. So instead of delaying the game, just take out the mode and sell the "upgraded version" at a later date. While on the surface this sounds good, they haven't said whether the upgrade will be at budget pricing, full price, have a trade in for the old version, or allow for save file compatibility between versions. There are a lot of unknowns, and it's well within reasons for those who were looking forward to racing online come December to be disappointed.
So, who's to blame when devs talk of features that don't ultimately make it? Does it all even matter?
Well obviously, the game devs themselves should show a little more restraint whenever being interviewed, especially when the game is in a pre-beta state. At that point nothing is set in stone, and this very same thing can happen as with Fable. It might be hard to resist nowadays, in this instant information age we live in. (It seems like you can't click a few web pages without running into a movie or TV show spoiler or people, for lack of a better word, "pirating" the latest software or games, even before they hit the stores (also another topic for another day). But for the greater good, talking about only that which won't spoil the entire experience seems like the best way to go.
As for you, the game players, the best way to take reading all these features and interviews on games is to take it all in stride. The only time you can honestly trust any report on a game is the actual review, so sit tight, don't read up too much on a certain game if you want to be surprised, and hope for the best. Worse case scenario, if the game isn't what you were expecting, either rent it or just don't buy it. Or do what every savvy game player does nowadays: v
2. Replacement teeth. Along the same lines as tissue regrowth for the gums, replacement teeth would have similar properties to existing teeth but be permanently implanted. We have this for hips, knees, etc., why not for teeth?
To the 50 - "blah blah blah how will they make 120 new games in 3 months, blah blah blah".
Here is a copy of the offical press release: http://www.gamegossip.com/pressrelease.php?id=9959
And if you don't want to RTFA:
"During the year-end peak-selling season about 80 online game titles are expected to be available in Japan, with 120 titles and 65 titles respectively in North America and Europe. With the launch of the new network-ready(*2) PlayStation 2, the company expects to continually expand the world of online gaming in this generation."
I almost prefer people just copying other peoples work when submitting a story to reading something out of context and passing it along to the masses.
I posted this then started seeing "pooper" and "loo" posts popping up. Maybe ODSN should start getting some TP and Air freshener banner adds, or thinkgeek could make then with caffeine and neon lights!
This will probably be marked redundent since every time SCO puts out another press release or does anything that looks like something wallstreet wets it's pants and SCOX starts to rise in value./me takes another hit off the crack pipe and buys some more SCOX stock.
.. is play Duke Nukem Forever on my Phantom gaming console. I've heard this same thing so many times I have lost hope - especially since anyone that I talked to at my local power provider said they either never heard of it or don't care.
I'm 26 and was starting to have the same problem. I found that I was on average buying and finishing a new game once a month and it was starting to seem like a big waste of time and money. I would sometimes go a month or more without playing, but then I got into the FFXI PS2 beta. This game demands time and commitment and at long last I was getting giddy and excited when the weekend came so I could do a couple 10 hour sessions. Now that FFXI is out in retail I play every night for at least an hour and have been playing since October. It's great because I only pay approx $20 (CDN) a month and right now I can see myself still playing a year from now. My advice is pick up a MMORPG with a developer that is committed to keeping it updated and new.
Since mydoom hit I have been traveling from friend, to relative fixing their computer and drinking their beer! If these windows worms keep spreading it is my liver I will be concerned with, not the health of the net:P
The SNAFU of Ontario Hyro is why every time New Brunswick pols start talking about privatizing it gets shut down pretty quick. Personally I wouldn't care if it made the service 1000 times better, and cheaper. Services required for people to live should never be controlled by private corporations.
Look at how great this privatiazation of the hydro companies have worked in Ontario - a town in the middle of nowhere has internet! Now if it didn't cost and arm and a leg and rolling blackouts weren't going to become a daily occurance I just might think selling the hyrdo co's was a good idea:P
I am going to have a webcast of cloned purple monkeys flying out of my butt in flying cars stocked with a cure for cancer and proof that SCO owns Linus' brain.
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The site is already running slow. Here is the text incase it dies:
"October 21, 2004
Game Publishers: Stop Overpromising!
Overhyped Videogames FableWhen Fable came out, everyone got to see if all the hype (and cool features expressed by Lionhead Studio head Peter Molyneux) is worth anything. Depending on where you go, you'll find glowing reviews to so-so reviews, mostly depending on if that person expected more (with good reason), or could just live with what the game actually provides. I personally feel that game reviews should be based on what the game has done right and wrong, rather than what I wanted to see, resulting in nitpicking every little detail.
But in this case, is it wrong to expect more? The Gear Live editors present their case after the jump.
Dorian: Look at companies like Nintendo, Valve and Bungie for instance.
Nintendo almost never reveals much about their games before release. The bulk of the game is left for us to explore on our own, and I think most gamers are the better for it.
Valve did the unthinkable, and for almost five years managed to develop Half-Life 2 without revealing anything until E3 right before last September's ill-fated launch (forget arguments about how ready they actually were).
Bungie has been very tight-lipped about Halo 2, at least as far as single player is concerned. Outside of the 10 minute footage of New Mombasa from last year's E3, almost nothing has been revealed, leaving all the details about what was not in the first Halo: Online Multiplayer.
We can probably think of other examples of game devs who kept their mouths shut and left most of their cards up their sleeves. But Lionhead Studios didn't manage to do that; they told us every single idea that popped up in their heads, as if they were brainstorming their ideas out in public. While not outright promising these features, most gamers were expecting more than what they got. Is that so wrong in this case?
Also in the news is Polyphony Digital's long waited Gran Turismo 4, and the stripping of the online multiplayer mode. While they gave no exact reason, one can extrapolate that they couldn't get online working in time for the holidays, and Sony didn't want to let their potentially biggest seller release past the lucrative holiday season. So instead of delaying the game, just take out the mode and sell the "upgraded version" at a later date. While on the surface this sounds good, they haven't said whether the upgrade will be at budget pricing, full price, have a trade in for the old version, or allow for save file compatibility between versions. There are a lot of unknowns, and it's well within reasons for those who were looking forward to racing online come December to be disappointed.
So, who's to blame when devs talk of features that don't ultimately make it? Does it all even matter?
Well obviously, the game devs themselves should show a little more restraint whenever being interviewed, especially when the game is in a pre-beta state. At that point nothing is set in stone, and this very same thing can happen as with Fable. It might be hard to resist nowadays, in this instant information age we live in. (It seems like you can't click a few web pages without running into a movie or TV show spoiler or people, for lack of a better word, "pirating" the latest software or games, even before they hit the stores (also another topic for another day). But for the greater good, talking about only that which won't spoil the entire experience seems like the best way to go.
As for you, the game players, the best way to take reading all these features and interviews on games is to take it all in stride. The only time you can honestly trust any report on a game is the actual review, so sit tight, don't read up too much on a certain game if you want to be surprised, and hope for the best. Worse case scenario, if the game isn't what you were expecting, either rent it or just don't buy it. Or do what every savvy game player does nowadays: v
when they declare war on Canada. Well more running and hiding than interested really.
"I like me"
"Oh fuckberries"
http://www.redvsblue.com/faq/?id=3
From the FAQ:
"Q: What is Red vs Blue?
A: If you don't know, why are you here?"
Ashton was quoted saying, "Dude where's my company."
2. Replacement teeth. Along the same lines as tissue regrowth for the gums, replacement teeth would have similar properties to existing teeth but be permanently implanted. We have this for hips, knees, etc., why not for teeth?
Done. - > http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1835362
"to ensure boosters or other launch vehicle parts don't land on the unsuspecting public)"
Really is burning tire rubber and laughing gas all that bad for people?
"assessing risk to passengers and level of fitness necessary to withstand the forces and conditions of spaceflight"
If Homer J Simpson can make it into space I don't see why I wouldn't be in good enough shape.
Smoking patents? Woh good thing I kicked that vice.
And I'd be able to fit it in the trunk of my car :)
To the 50 - "blah blah blah how will they make 120 new games in 3 months, blah blah blah".
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Here is a copy of the offical press release: http://www.gamegossip.com/pressrelease.php?id=995
And if you don't want to RTFA:
"During the year-end peak-selling season about 80 online game titles are expected to be available in Japan, with 120 titles and 65 titles respectively in North America and Europe. With the launch of the new network-ready(*2) PlayStation 2, the company expects to continually expand the world of online gaming in this generation."
I almost prefer people just copying other peoples work when submitting a story to reading something out of context and passing it along to the masses.
It's a joke - laugh :P
No Return of the Javi jokes? I am very let down :(
I posted this then started seeing "pooper" and "loo" posts popping up. Maybe ODSN should start getting some TP and Air freshener banner adds, or thinkgeek could make then with caffeine and neon lights!
mmm caffinated toilet paper..
Yup.. I've been know to use my notebook to read it on the throne.
Hmm.. I listened to the webcast and I really like to think they came across so stupid the price will eventually settle in a downward direction
Now it's climbing again :/
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This will probably be marked redundent since every time SCO puts out another press release or does anything that looks like something wallstreet wets it's pants and SCOX starts to rise in value. /me takes another hit off the crack pipe and buys some more SCOX stock.
Yes there is also water vapour (gas), frozen water (solid). Whoa!
.. is play Duke Nukem Forever on my Phantom gaming console. I've heard this same thing so many times I have lost hope - especially since anyone that I talked to at my local power provider said they either never heard of it or don't care.
I'm 26 and was starting to have the same problem. I found that I was on average buying and finishing a new game once a month and it was starting to seem like a big waste of time and money. I would sometimes go a month or more without playing, but then I got into the FFXI PS2 beta. This game demands time and commitment and at long last I was getting giddy and excited when the weekend came so I could do a couple 10 hour sessions. Now that FFXI is out in retail I play every night for at least an hour and have been playing since October. It's great because I only pay approx $20 (CDN) a month and right now I can see myself still playing a year from now. My advice is pick up a MMORPG with a developer that is committed to keeping it updated and new.
Since mydoom hit I have been traveling from friend, to relative fixing their computer and drinking their beer! If these windows worms keep spreading it is my liver I will be concerned with, not the health of the net :P
The SNAFU of Ontario Hyro is why every time New Brunswick pols start talking about privatizing it gets shut down pretty quick. Personally I wouldn't care if it made the service 1000 times better, and cheaper. Services required for people to live should never be controlled by private corporations.
Look at how great this privatiazation of the hydro companies have worked in Ontario - a town in the middle of nowhere has internet! Now if it didn't cost and arm and a leg and rolling blackouts weren't going to become a daily occurance I just might think selling the hyrdo co's was a good idea :P
Oh did I forget to mention I won't believe this until I buy a copy and install it from a CD?
I am going to have a webcast of cloned purple monkeys flying out of my butt in flying cars stocked with a cure for cancer and proof that SCO owns Linus' brain.