But it does have checks and balances. There are other judges, and panels of judges, that can, and do on occasion, overturn a contempt citation from another judge. That said, the laws governing the powers of a sitting judge in his courtroom were set by the legislators and the Constitutuon of the United States.
Yes, I agree about the fine line. Oh, and just to clarify, I would consider the statement I made earlier propaganda. Now I need to go take a shower. I don't think I'll ever feel clean again.
Dude, we're talking a Chinese provicial government. Check your logic at the door when dealing with them. Mutually contridictory statements in the same sentence are a requirement for them.
Ok. "The Chinese government is truly a compasionate and caring group of people who are doing what they are for the betterment of the people of China rather than a pack of power crazed lunatics." Does that meet the standards of rumor?
Why the hell didn't they name it that here in the states? Ooops. Sorry. Now I remember. That name is too long for our attention span. Look, that kid has a beanie with a propeller...
Oops. You're right. It was a public nuiscence law, not obscenity. Doesn't change a thing. Jack filed a lawsuit saying the game violated public nuiscence laws. The judge viewed the game and made a ruling on whether to issue a restraining order and allow a lawsuit to proceed under that law. Once again, that is what judges are paid to do. Like I said before, if you don't like the laws work to have them changed. This particular one is a Florida law, so move there if you don't already if you wish to change it.
So, obscenity laws are unconstitutional? Cool. Thanks for that tip.
It's not the judges right to review a game or a book to see if it exceeds community standards as applied to obscenity laws, it is his OBLIGATION as part of his job. Just as this judge did he should then rule that it doesn't exceed the community standards for obscenity and remove any temporary injunctions. Ta freaking da. If you don't like the laws as they are get you politicians to change the freaking obscenity laws. The ones that are on the books have been appealed and found constitutional so if you don't like the way the laws work, work to get them changed. For you to say that it's not a judges job to follow and apply the laws because you don't like it is absurd.
1) The judge should have said "I don't rule on video game violence"
2) He should have said "I am not qualified to look at a game to decide what is okay"
3) It's not his job to look at a game at decide if it's "Okay" for the rest of the public to play.
Well, 1. - wrong, 2. - wrong, and 3. - wrong. That is what judges do, judge things.
What's next? People can ask a judge if TV show is okay? A magazine? A book?
Been done. Will be done in the future.
Where does this power stem from to rule on the contents of video games? I've never heard of it before.
Obscenity laws. The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that they are legal, and should reflect the standards of the community. That is what the judge is doing. Ruling if they exceed public standards.
To modify the GPs coffee analogy so it fits better, substitute Senseo or Flavia coffee "systems" for the Gevalia coffee of the month club. There is no reason other than "creating hype and desire" for someone to do that to coffee. Fleecing the trendy, or just those who think they are, is a time honored tradition in marketing and retail.
Ah, so if someone says something it is up to you to prove them wrong rather than them proving their asertation is correct? Don't think so. If you make a claim you need to be able to back it up. I don't need to play search engine monkey to prove hime wrong, he needs to prove that the statement he made was correct. So, can you prove that most people that kill have serious problems, or is it up to me to somehow prove your statement incorrect just because you think it should be correct? Put up, or shut up. Ok, lets back up a sec. Using your logic, I claim that most murderers are controlled by space hemeroids and are not responsible for their actions! Now it's up to you to prove me wrong.
If they find out they were wrong and he hadn't wrongfully imprisoned his mother, he could be let out of prison and we could apologize for our actions even though we couldn't really make up for it. Can you bring someone back to life 8 years later when you find out that the killer was really the neighbors 12 year old asocial nutcase kid rather than the husband? Thought not.
Oooh. So to punish the criminal we get to turn the family of the victim into sadistic asocial losers, and if they aren't willing, we'll hire our own? So, if someone feels they didn't get a good deal on the oil change do they get to pour hot engine oil on the technician? I know, if someone cuts me off in traffic, I get to waterboard his ass. That will teach him! I truly fear for society if your ignorance and sadism become the norm.
Because, they are aiming for the retiree who is pissed at the cost fo MS Office, but doesn't have the savy to download OpenOffice. They get everything else from Tesco, software won't be a big stretch for some.
Yep. Premature expiration. Happens to all patents occasionally. You know when they've been getting a little frisky with their favorite implimentation and then... Bam! Premature expiration. Partys over before it begins.
Not. Jacks. Job. Thank you very fucking much. Bye.
But it does have checks and balances. There are other judges, and panels of judges, that can, and do on occasion, overturn a contempt citation from another judge. That said, the laws governing the powers of a sitting judge in his courtroom were set by the legislators and the Constitutuon of the United States.
Yes, I agree about the fine line. Oh, and just to clarify, I would consider the statement I made earlier propaganda. Now I need to go take a shower. I don't think I'll ever feel clean again.
Dude, we're talking a Chinese provicial government. Check your logic at the door when dealing with them. Mutually contridictory statements in the same sentence are a requirement for them.
Ok. "The Chinese government is truly a compasionate and caring group of people who are doing what they are for the betterment of the people of China rather than a pack of power crazed lunatics." Does that meet the standards of rumor?
Me?
Why the hell didn't they name it that here in the states? Ooops. Sorry. Now I remember. That name is too long for our attention span. Look, that kid has a beanie with a propeller...
Oops. You're right. It was a public nuiscence law, not obscenity. Doesn't change a thing. Jack filed a lawsuit saying the game violated public nuiscence laws. The judge viewed the game and made a ruling on whether to issue a restraining order and allow a lawsuit to proceed under that law. Once again, that is what judges are paid to do. Like I said before, if you don't like the laws work to have them changed. This particular one is a Florida law, so move there if you don't already if you wish to change it.
So, obscenity laws are unconstitutional? Cool. Thanks for that tip. It's not the judges right to review a game or a book to see if it exceeds community standards as applied to obscenity laws, it is his OBLIGATION as part of his job. Just as this judge did he should then rule that it doesn't exceed the community standards for obscenity and remove any temporary injunctions. Ta freaking da. If you don't like the laws as they are get you politicians to change the freaking obscenity laws. The ones that are on the books have been appealed and found constitutional so if you don't like the way the laws work, work to get them changed. For you to say that it's not a judges job to follow and apply the laws because you don't like it is absurd.
1) The judge should have said "I don't rule on video game violence"
2) He should have said "I am not qualified to look at a game to decide what is okay"
3) It's not his job to look at a game at decide if it's "Okay" for the rest of the public to play.
Well, 1. - wrong, 2. - wrong, and 3. - wrong. That is what judges do, judge things.
What's next? People can ask a judge if TV show is okay? A magazine? A book?
Been done. Will be done in the future.
Where does this power stem from to rule on the contents of video games? I've never heard of it before.
Obscenity laws. The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that they are legal, and should reflect the standards of the community. That is what the judge is doing. Ruling if they exceed public standards.
To modify the GPs coffee analogy so it fits better, substitute Senseo or Flavia coffee "systems" for the Gevalia coffee of the month club. There is no reason other than "creating hype and desire" for someone to do that to coffee. Fleecing the trendy, or just those who think they are, is a time honored tradition in marketing and retail.
p.s. Since I was mentioning coffee, here's a gratuitous link to my second favorite UF... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060925
Ah, so if someone says something it is up to you to prove them wrong rather than them proving their asertation is correct? Don't think so. If you make a claim you need to be able to back it up. I don't need to play search engine monkey to prove hime wrong, he needs to prove that the statement he made was correct. So, can you prove that most people that kill have serious problems, or is it up to me to somehow prove your statement incorrect just because you think it should be correct? Put up, or shut up. Ok, lets back up a sec. Using your logic, I claim that most murderers are controlled by space hemeroids and are not responsible for their actions! Now it's up to you to prove me wrong.
No, he doesn't As far as he is conerned enlightened self interest = psychopathy.
I stand corrected. ;)
Well, point me at a peer reviewed scientific study that shows that most killers aren't wracked with guilt. Come on. You said you had evidence.
If they find out they were wrong and he hadn't wrongfully imprisoned his mother, he could be let out of prison and we could apologize for our actions even though we couldn't really make up for it. Can you bring someone back to life 8 years later when you find out that the killer was really the neighbors 12 year old asocial nutcase kid rather than the husband? Thought not.
Oooh. So to punish the criminal we get to turn the family of the victim into sadistic asocial losers, and if they aren't willing, we'll hire our own? So, if someone feels they didn't get a good deal on the oil change do they get to pour hot engine oil on the technician? I know, if someone cuts me off in traffic, I get to waterboard his ass. That will teach him! I truly fear for society if your ignorance and sadism become the norm.
A clear case of people with more mod points than brain cells. Well, at least it has the funny that I was shooting for in the first place, now.
Hmmmm. Point taken. They would be required for it to be a success.
Americans also know that The Netherlands can beat up Holland, no problem. ;)
I'm stunned. Flabbergasted. Nay, gobsmacked, at your wit and observational skills. You my good gEvil (beta) are truly one in a million.
Because, they are aiming for the retiree who is pissed at the cost fo MS Office, but doesn't have the savy to download OpenOffice. They get everything else from Tesco, software won't be a big stretch for some.
In this case, is Tesco selling OpenOffice stuff rebranded?
Nope, and it says right in the article who made the software for them.
Where do you think Zonk gets all of the "Anonymousy Submitted" stories that he puts up as editor?
Yep. Premature expiration. Happens to all patents occasionally. You know when they've been getting a little frisky with their favorite implimentation and then... Bam! Premature expiration. Partys over before it begins.