After lots of thinking about the right or wrong, aren't we fighting for a non-issure?
Isn't the rule of warfare something like, if you beat the crap out of the contry, you have full privileged over the land you conqured?
Japan invaded china, along with a few europen contries. They clam the land and mis-treated the chinesses for exception of the british (which i am not sure, please someone correct me, but i am assuming that if HK prospered so well, they were not miss treated). Then the people got pissed off, regouped and kick out the invaders, and in the processed expanded a bit their territory.
for the sake of detailed, the comunist and the capitalist fought for rulling the new piece of land. The Communist robed the rich to fund their army, while the Capitalist robed to poor to fund the their army (all this for obvious reasons). In the End, the communist outnumbered the capitalist because the the capitalist, because theire is just more poor that riches.
This is when the capitalist retreated to tawaii, and the communist seiged the area. and officialy the civil war did not ended yet.
So its all fair games no? you beat the crap out of the other you get to rule and convert them, so they don't fight back? where is the problem?
If this is not fair game, by all mean, please give back out land to the native americans, and destroy the whitehouse, to replace it by a giant tottem, and make peace with nature! it isn't all bad actualy, no more polution, safe drinking of river waters.. blablabla.. it wouldn't be that bad neither.
It seems that everyone is so sure about theire position. And blame propagandat affecting their mind.
But what is the REAL truth, because after all, in North America, there is a BIG propaganda that Tibet is NOT part of China. Whereas, with in the contry it is saying that Tibet IS.
1) Are you all historians?
2) Can you actualy read Antique Chinness Caligraphy Which Survived WWII?
3) Do you actualy have these documents?
So we are stuck with one major problem, the only people who can actualy verify the facts are chinesse historian living in china. which for a fact, may or may not saying the truth due to political enforcement. Yet, outside the contry, strong political reason makes Tibet a strategic military stronghold in advent of invasion of china. In short, both party (inside and outside) will or may curently have strong interest of persuading their point of view.
The truth is out there, not what the news is saying, in ancient chinesse scroll:P
It is a bit sad, to see all of you slashdotters bashing MS.
Haven't you learned it yet.
Rule#1 NEVER, BUT NEVER underestimate your enemy!
Rule#2 Know your enemy!
MS actualy won most of the ground against Novell in the user access resource sharing space
MS actualy won lots of gound against the formal SQL servers
whereas they had a shaky beginging, they nearly killed all their competitors.;)
think about it!
1. they laught at us 2. they fear us 3. they fight us 4. and then the victory is complete.
it doesn't just apply to Linux or the opensource community. so stop laughting and get your keyboard cracking to make HPC possible that with a few clicks.
Then you can laught for a while that MS wasted lots of money to develope something to slow.
Klanglor
PS: if you read the zdnet article, MS is plaing to use the unharnest capacity from its desktop with one server to load balance it.
PPS: equaly, MS can win the server, OS can win the client.
Well the concept of licensing is just weird and outof their world. Its like in austin power were dr. evil asked for one billion dollars randsome to save the world, when the global economy of every single person in us didn't reach that amount.
You basicaly have the same syndrome,
a) Sell at what it cost you + markup (normal business)
b) Sell 4 copy of one software worth 100year worth of Net Present Value annual income to some rich ass business people. (that was the plan original business plan of IBM)
So what do you choose? Before you make your decsion, in case you choose b) IBM promessed the productivity of 100 men with one machine, Microsoft cannot promesse it will be as productive as one single man;)
Acutaly MS did have some technical merite,
not computer wise, but user wise.
Create something that works for almost everyone.
If you want to be the cream of the crop for specialized users, well you can only limite your market to this segment (ie. WP is still widely used in law firms)
But if you want to build a evil empire MS learned how to leverage it.
On a side note, as i read this story, just can't resiste to think of Open Office. It was considered a joke by hardcore industry decision makes, but some how as it evolves, now more and more people start to think that it just works.
And i history is forgotten, it shall be repeated;) Sun's latest conference was showing off how StarOffice is able to work seamlessly with word. Soon Open Office will do the samething as MS-word to WP
Humm.. we i am graduating in a frew days in MIS,
and i know hell lot about system architecture.
However, the problme is that i can't seem to find any job as JUNIOR System Architect. and no one seems to let us the chance to join in the club, every one wants 10yrs+
I am so desperate now, can anyone just point me out where can i start to get my first job?
I am not sure RBC will plundge Billions of dollar in legal fight against IBM to protect a 30million dollars in investment.
My felling of RBC investment in SCO is to ballance its portfolio. I am almost sure that RBC have undisclosed high profiled HPC/Linux Company investment aswell.
There is a reason why RBC is the richess Bank in Canada, they are managed by backstabing financial foxes (in a more politicaly correct way to say it: Diversification Specialist)
Just for your information, usulay in a balanced portfolio investment, you always WIN the Wining Return less the loosing investment. For example, if SCO wins RBC 30Million will be Woth say 130Million Less the 30Million they invested in the Linux Companies (as a bonnus, they control portions of the company which holds the IP, which they can leverage on keener treatment for theire Linux Company). On the Other hand if SCO looses, RBC's investement in Linux Company will be worth say 30Million will total a 130Millions less the 30Millions invested in SCO. So No mater how wins RBC makes Money (100Million is a suggested figure).
All in All, the point is that RBC will not waste billions of dollars to fight IBM because they win anyway. and perhaps, maybe they have stake in Novel. Corel was a canadian company which spined off its Corel Linux to annother small company which was bought by Ximen, which was bought by Novel (if i recall, but i may be wrong.) For sure i know RBC has stakes in Nortel Networks and i am prety sure that Nortel is working behind the sceen on a NIO with Linux.
exactly.. since was someone in "high" position, he could have pushed Linux development toward consumer grade.. i.e. better usb suport, graphic card support, etc. More wosh wosh in the GUI...
A) This would give a harder time for the millitary to enhance the security grade side of the kernel.
B) Faster adoption of Linux on the consumer desktops.
C) Finaly take over the world, by weakening Mr. GATES income flow.
Of course, by quiting hot headed, this will never happend. True Geeks just Love SMP and Clusters; and the military will just have to patch it abit to make it better.
As any great technology, in the begining it was good, but it turn sour... someone will try to abuse it.
Think Enstein's theory of relativity. If all anti-mass destruction advocate quited the developement of quantum physics, the only application in new nuclear findings would be to blow things up.
By quiting the development of something potentialy good, you just agree to let it turn evil. (if no one good work on it to guid it toward the light, it will eternaly lurk in darkness to serve evil only).
actualy, you forgot another potential racer, china.
china is like the old URSS, the can raise a unlimited capital for any given programme. (i.e. put staff working for the nation/for free).
an actually, perhapse/.ers and OSDN members would work for free as well, if the space programme knowledge is shared under the GPL.
but he did not mention about MS Lockup.
I installed the trial of Outlook XP and i couldn't revert it backward because it has the useless photo entry in the new database. had to manualy re-enter my the missing fields from a restore with my palm on a second computer then backup....
OOo don't have this problem... no contact manager:P
dammit.. but i want to see the darn thing:'( i couldn see any off them...
Re:SCO vs The Feds?? ENEMY GIVEN MORE POWER
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SCO Aims For The Feds
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now just imagine...
SCO kill linux in USA,
699$+equipment per additional CPU.
the Enemy: only equipment cost.
now who will have the fastest computational power?
1) Buy a legacy dying business, 2) seach for missleading IP rights 3) Claim you have KEY rights on the new technology 4) Keep the IP detail secret 5) Start Sueing anyone bocking your way to be filfy rich.
NOTE: 302 lecture will teach you to corrupt judges and politiciant. stay tuned.
Try this, its not bad,
1) first cook your rammen to tender. drain the water
2) fry the rammen in the wok for five minute or t'ill crispy. put them on a plate.
2) fry the mushroom in the work with hosin sauce and corn-scratch pre-mixed in cold walter to make a creamy brown mushroom sauce.
its realy good:D and its GPL'ed now! improvement try onions just before puting the muchroom. beef helps too. shrip, brocolie... whatever you think sounds good that is in your fridge. now the only thing missing is a CVS of the concurent versions and rate them.
does anyone knows if we can start an injunction against SCO for threating Linux user because they were part of an antitrust scheme?
Or better, set an injunction at Microsoft to TAKE BACK the money. it sound crazy but with a few million less, SCO is dead for sure. And i am sure M$ could better use the money-- ie: R&D to fix and patch the holes.
exaclty, my moms computer just use internet explorer and ie plugins.:P Again, this is why Gate richer than the IBM executives. He understand perceived value of the MASS. And you have to get the MASS to make standards, once locked in theire is no alternatives. (evil) Even for non computer business it works the same, lets take the airline industry. "New" commer southwest took over the goliath of the airline industry by convincing the mass to hope in with low fairs. Providing the basic A-to-B fair, no thills. What Common desktop user want, fastboot/fast shutdown. pre-installed common app. Eye friendly/candy presentation. Adding more stuff will slowdown the machine; it is acceptable price. Starting with unwanted things is not!
FYI: Most people waste their money to buying WORD, (no because of oo) because wordpad is affuly enougth. a big fat percentage of people just don't know how to use word processors: BOLD/ITALIC/UNDERLINE/FONT/LEFT/RIGHT/JUSTIFY is all what they use.
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After lots of thinking about the right or wrong,
aren't we fighting for a non-issure?
Isn't the rule of warfare something like, if you beat the crap out of the contry, you have full privileged over the land you conqured?
Japan invaded china, along with a few europen contries. They clam the land and mis-treated the chinesses for exception of the british (which i am not sure, please someone correct me, but i am assuming that if HK prospered so well, they were not miss treated). Then the people got pissed off, regouped and kick out the invaders, and in the processed expanded a bit their territory.
for the sake of detailed, the comunist and the capitalist fought for rulling the new piece of land. The Communist robed the rich to fund their army, while the Capitalist robed to poor to fund the their army (all this for obvious reasons). In the End, the communist outnumbered the capitalist because the the capitalist, because theire is just more poor that riches.
This is when the capitalist retreated to tawaii, and the communist seiged the area. and officialy the civil war did not ended yet.
So its all fair games no? you beat the crap out of the other you get to rule and convert them, so they don't fight back? where is the problem?
If this is not fair game, by all mean, please give back out land to the native americans, and destroy the whitehouse, to replace it by a giant tottem, and make peace with nature!
it isn't all bad actualy, no more polution, safe drinking of river waters.. blablabla.. it wouldn't be that bad neither.
It seems that everyone is so sure about theire position. And blame propagandat affecting their mind.
:P
But what is the REAL truth, because after all, in North America, there is a BIG propaganda that Tibet is NOT part of China. Whereas, with in the contry it is saying that Tibet IS.
1) Are you all historians?
2) Can you actualy read Antique Chinness Caligraphy Which Survived WWII?
3) Do you actualy have these documents?
So we are stuck with one major problem, the only people who can actualy verify the facts are chinesse historian living in china. which for a fact, may or may not saying the truth due to political enforcement. Yet, outside the contry, strong political reason makes Tibet a strategic military stronghold in advent of invasion of china. In short, both party (inside and outside) will or may curently have strong interest of persuading their point of view.
The truth is out there, not what the news is saying, in ancient chinesse scroll
It is a bit sad, to see all of you slashdotters bashing MS.
;)
Haven't you learned it yet.
Rule#1 NEVER, BUT NEVER underestimate your enemy!
Rule#2 Know your enemy!
MS actualy won most of the ground against Novell in the user access resource sharing space
MS actualy won lots of gound against the formal SQL servers
whereas they had a shaky beginging, they nearly killed all their competitors.
think about it!
1. they laught at us
2. they fear us
3. they fight us
4. and then the victory is complete.
it doesn't just apply to Linux or the opensource community. so stop laughting and get your keyboard cracking to make HPC possible that with a few clicks.
Then you can laught for a while that MS wasted lots of money to develope something to slow.
Klanglor
PS: if you read the zdnet article, MS is plaing to use the unharnest capacity from its desktop with one server to load balance it.
PPS: equaly, MS can win the server, OS can win the client.
PPPS: get your keyboard cracking!
the magnetic "tape" inside is flat :p
go on The Mission page and read about their accomplishments.
i don't know for you but, when i click on 2. Accomplishments it gives "Not Found" ;)
Well the concept of licensing is just weird and outof their world. Its like in austin power were dr. evil asked for one billion dollars randsome to save the world, when the global economy of every single person in us didn't reach that amount.
;)
You basicaly have the same syndrome,
a) Sell at what it cost you + markup (normal business)
b) Sell 4 copy of one software worth 100year worth of Net Present Value annual income to some rich ass business people. (that was the plan original business plan of IBM)
So what do you choose? Before you make your decsion, in case you choose b) IBM promessed the productivity of 100 men with one machine, Microsoft cannot promesse it will be as productive as one single man
Acutaly MS did have some technical merite, not computer wise, but user wise. Create something that works for almost everyone. If you want to be the cream of the crop for specialized users, well you can only limite your market to this segment (ie. WP is still widely used in law firms) But if you want to build a evil empire MS learned how to leverage it. On a side note, as i read this story, just can't resiste to think of Open Office. It was considered a joke by hardcore industry decision makes, but some how as it evolves, now more and more people start to think that it just works. And i history is forgotten, it shall be repeated ;) Sun's latest conference was showing off how StarOffice is able to work seamlessly with word. Soon Open Office will do the samething as MS-word to WP
Humm.. we i am graduating in a frew days in MIS, and i know hell lot about system architecture. However, the problme is that i can't seem to find any job as JUNIOR System Architect. and no one seems to let us the chance to join in the club, every one wants 10yrs+ I am so desperate now, can anyone just point me out where can i start to get my first job?
I am not sure RBC will plundge Billions of dollar in legal fight against IBM to protect a 30million dollars in investment.
My felling of RBC investment in SCO is to ballance its portfolio. I am almost sure that RBC have undisclosed high profiled HPC/Linux Company investment aswell.
There is a reason why RBC is the richess Bank in Canada, they are managed by backstabing financial foxes (in a more politicaly correct way to say it: Diversification Specialist)
Just for your information, usulay in a balanced portfolio investment, you always WIN the Wining Return less the loosing investment. For example, if SCO wins RBC 30Million will be Woth say 130Million Less the 30Million they invested in the Linux Companies (as a bonnus, they control portions of the company which holds the IP, which they can leverage on keener treatment for theire Linux Company). On the Other hand if SCO looses, RBC's investement in Linux Company will be worth say 30Million will total a 130Millions less the 30Millions invested in SCO. So No mater how wins RBC makes Money (100Million is a suggested figure).
All in All, the point is that RBC will not waste billions of dollars to fight IBM because they win anyway. and perhaps, maybe they have stake in Novel. Corel was a canadian company which spined off its Corel Linux to annother small company which was bought by Ximen, which was bought by Novel (if i recall, but i may be wrong.) For sure i know RBC has stakes in Nortel Networks and i am prety sure that Nortel is working behind the sceen on a NIO with Linux.
hummm so did anyone started to write the Gnu D Compiler?
The problem is the viciouse cycle that it is entering in.
SYSTEM FATAL ERROR - PEOPLE HAS NO MORE MONEY TO BUY OR JOBS
actualy, you forgot another potential racer, china. china is like the old URSS, the can raise a unlimited capital for any given programme. (i.e. put staff working for the nation/for free). an actually, perhapse /.ers and OSDN members would work for free as well, if the space programme knowledge is shared under the GPL.
ask Darl
actualy porn became all mighty and powerfull only after it became taboo... why get porn when you could have the real thing?
we that is because they are all VB or .NET programmers :p
but he did not mention about MS Lockup. I installed the trial of Outlook XP and i couldn't revert it backward because it has the useless photo entry in the new database. had to manualy re-enter my the missing fields from a restore with my palm on a second computer then backup.... OOo don't have this problem... no contact manager :P
now the question is will real player sue apple for exercing a monopoly on mini mp3 players, preventing them to enter the market succesfully. :P
(ref: microsoft vs. real)
dammit.. but i want to see the darn thing :'(
i couldn see any off them...
now just imagine... SCO kill linux in USA, 699$+equipment per additional CPU. the Enemy: only equipment cost. now who will have the fastest computational power?
1) Buy a legacy dying business,
2) seach for missleading IP rights
3) Claim you have KEY rights on the new technology
4) Keep the IP detail secret
5) Start Sueing anyone bocking your way to be filfy rich.
NOTE: 302 lecture will teach you to corrupt judges and politiciant. stay tuned.
Try this, its not bad, 1) first cook your rammen to tender. drain the water 2) fry the rammen in the wok for five minute or t'ill crispy. put them on a plate. 2) fry the mushroom in the work with hosin sauce and corn-scratch pre-mixed in cold walter to make a creamy brown mushroom sauce. its realy good :D and its GPL'ed now! improvement try onions just before puting the muchroom. beef helps too. shrip, brocolie... whatever you think sounds good that is in your fridge. now the only thing missing is a CVS of the concurent versions and rate them.
does anyone knows if we can start an injunction against SCO for threating Linux user because they were part of an antitrust scheme?
Or better, set an injunction at Microsoft to TAKE BACK the money. it sound crazy but with a few million less, SCO is dead for sure. And i am sure M$ could better use the money-- ie: R&D to fix and patch the holes.
what about SCO then? although no one actualy got sued yet...
exaclty, my moms computer just use internet explorer and ie plugins. :P
Again, this is why Gate richer than the IBM executives. He understand perceived value of the MASS.
And you have to get the MASS to make standards, once locked in theire is no alternatives. (evil)
Even for non computer business it works the same,
lets take the airline industry. "New" commer southwest took over the goliath of the airline industry by convincing the mass to hope in with low fairs. Providing the basic A-to-B fair, no thills.
What Common desktop user want, fastboot/fast shutdown. pre-installed common app. Eye friendly/candy presentation. Adding more stuff will slowdown the machine; it is acceptable price. Starting with unwanted things is not!
FYI: Most people waste their money to buying WORD, (no because of oo) because wordpad is affuly enougth. a big fat percentage of people just don't know how to use word processors: BOLD/ITALIC/UNDERLINE/FONT/LEFT/RIGHT/JUSTIFY is all what they use.