WRONG WRONG WRONG
there is everything wrong with Microsoft bundling the browser with Windows. How many people do you honestly think would get Internet Explorer if they had to download it themselves. Look at it this way
IE = more bugs, no pop up blocker, sercurity flaws galore (you can't get installed a patched version already,. you have to install it and then patch it)
IE's service pack alone takes up 60ish mb. Firefox is a tenth of that and DOESNT not require any further patching. For someones thats conscious about how much they download and how long it takes, doesnt want to constantly reboot their computer to install a browser, doesnt want a email program forced down their throat when they only want a webbrowser, wants built in pop up and ad blocking, safety from spoofed url and other security quirks, who wouldnt choose Firefox over Internet Explorer?
And this IS different from notepad. Notepad is a half functional program unlike IE. Can notepad open large files? does it have find and replace? Hell, even Dos Edit had more functonality than Notepad.
For god sakes man, Microsoft wouldn't have got 90% market share in browsers if they didnt bundle it with the OS.
I say and so would anyone else thats sane, let the customer DECIDE what browser they want to install and use. That is fair. Dont make them have to install something that they didn't ask for when all they wanted was the OS.
They are only taking out Windows Media Player. Do you use it? If so ask yourself why you wouldn't use an alternative like mplayer which plays real,apple and ms video formats. For music theres Winamp which plays mp3, ogg, midi, wma amongst others.
Ho much do you want to bet that MS will use its sole distribution rights in the US and the rest of the world to stop stores from importing the UK lite version to sell.
They can't stop you from buying it off an online store based in the UK but they can make it difficult. Ebay is another avenue to aquire it without resorting to piracy.
Because just like the dvd forum has divided the world into regions, MS will divide Windows into region specific releases. They won't sell, or allow others to sell, the stripped European version in the US (or the rest of the world) simply because bundling IE et al with the OS is advanteous towards them.
Yea cause the 2 most powerful 3d chip makers make their cards in china/taiwan and the CEOs of both companies are chinese immigrants so anything touched by chinese must suck.//sarcasm
getting bought out =! making a deal.
once you're bought you have to follow what your new master tells you to do whether you like it or not. The grandfather poster is talking about instances where another company made an *mutual agreement with microsoft*. you say there are thousands that go without problems. name some. In the odd case u can, there be at least twice that number that have been screwed by ms.
But would the minimum amount of RAM needed to do this cost less than bundling a harddrive with the xbox2? Somehow I doubt it. the partition on the xbox for caching game files is ~5gb.
They only take your name and nothing else. So unless they use mind control to find out which John Smith's name is there I dont think you're going to get spammed. ^^
On a serious note, wasn't there a period when the MPAA revoked the dvd logo from generic brand manufacterers because their players were bypassing some dvd 'features'? what became of that or is it still going?
driving using a keyboard is no more 'suck' than using joypad. If you are really serious about the controller you have for driving games, get a steering wheel+pedal. You cant get closer to realism than that.
yup, not to mention the bonus content on some singles like videosclips, screen savers etc. It almost seems like RIAA/ARIA wants this to fail just so they can say 'look we offered a music service and nobody bought. we're going to have to sue more p2p software and lock the cd format up even further'
If online music stores really take off, I hope this isn't going to encourage artists to make shorter length songs...
On the other hand this could encourage artists to pack more songs on their albums, eg instead of having 30 minutes of music, they're make it the full 72 minutes, filling the rest with tracks they wouldnt have deemed worthy but would make the fans happy. It doesnt mean these songs are bad, for example, the Smashing Pumpkins had lots of songs written which didnt make it on their albums until many years later and it made their fans very happy. I'm sure other bands would have songs of their own which didnt make the cutting floor but they weren't popular enough to release them later on.
well its already past the 14th so shouldn't sales be picking up by now? Looking at gamefags.com I have to agree the lineup this christmas looks pretty lacklustre.
I'd love to see this used on a digital camera. Imagine 2 gig of sapce to space your 5 megapixel shots. mmmm
Price might be prohibitive at first but what new technology isnt?
You misunderstand. Ads are shown only when you have the client installed.
Like the grandparent poster said you could have two HDs installed, or two windows isntallations on one HD or kill the process at startup etc etc, and its not going to show any ads. As long as you clock up enough ad hours/month it doesnt matter what you do any other time,
so why not clock those hours when you're not using the computer?
"No need to detect if there's a joystick or keyboard or what"
A computer without a keyboard is like a console without a controller.
"PS2s are equally compatible, so the game makers don't have to "scale down" graphics for less capable systems."
Only problem here is that consoles are the less capable system when it comes to graphics. PC games can scale to much higher resolutions than consoles can even at the highest supported HDTV standard.
"Enough fans buying a game == the studio makes more. Obviously BIS wasn't that great of a game maker."
I agree that the more the studio makes the more likely they're keep the company going but the logic to your second part of that sentence is flawed.
sales != quality
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WRONG WRONG WRONG there is everything wrong with Microsoft bundling the browser with Windows. How many people do you honestly think would get Internet Explorer if they had to download it themselves. Look at it this way IE = more bugs, no pop up blocker, sercurity flaws galore (you can't get installed a patched version already,. you have to install it and then patch it) IE's service pack alone takes up 60ish mb. Firefox is a tenth of that and DOESNT not require any further patching. For someones thats conscious about how much they download and how long it takes, doesnt want to constantly reboot their computer to install a browser, doesnt want a email program forced down their throat when they only want a webbrowser, wants built in pop up and ad blocking, safety from spoofed url and other security quirks, who wouldnt choose Firefox over Internet Explorer? And this IS different from notepad. Notepad is a half functional program unlike IE. Can notepad open large files? does it have find and replace? Hell, even Dos Edit had more functonality than Notepad. For god sakes man, Microsoft wouldn't have got 90% market share in browsers if they didnt bundle it with the OS. I say and so would anyone else thats sane, let the customer DECIDE what browser they want to install and use. That is fair. Dont make them have to install something that they didn't ask for when all they wanted was the OS.
They are only taking out Windows Media Player. Do you use it? If so ask yourself why you wouldn't use an alternative like mplayer which plays real,apple and ms video formats. For music theres Winamp which plays mp3, ogg, midi, wma amongst others.
Ho much do you want to bet that MS will use its sole distribution rights in the US and the rest of the world to stop stores from importing the UK lite version to sell. They can't stop you from buying it off an online store based in the UK but they can make it difficult. Ebay is another avenue to aquire it without resorting to piracy.
Because just like the dvd forum has divided the world into regions, MS will divide Windows into region specific releases. They won't sell, or allow others to sell, the stripped European version in the US (or the rest of the world) simply because bundling IE et al with the OS is advanteous towards them.
Give me liberty or give me death - gta3
I would like to know how this 'patriot' act he helped write isn't communist in nature.
Yea cause the 2 most powerful 3d chip makers make their cards in china/taiwan and the CEOs of both companies are chinese immigrants so anything touched by chinese must suck. //sarcasm
getting bought out =! making a deal. once you're bought you have to follow what your new master tells you to do whether you like it or not. The grandfather poster is talking about instances where another company made an *mutual agreement with microsoft*. you say there are thousands that go without problems. name some. In the odd case u can, there be at least twice that number that have been screwed by ms.
But would the minimum amount of RAM needed to do this cost less than bundling a harddrive with the xbox2? Somehow I doubt it. the partition on the xbox for caching game files is ~5gb.
No, it's not. and it's been shut down by the makers of Kazaa using the evil DMCA.
Actually 200 watts is its RMS rating. Its rated 400 watts PMPO. why is 200 watts that hard to believe? its not like its that high in the first place.
They only take your name and nothing else. So unless they use mind control to find out which John Smith's name is there I dont think you're going to get spammed. ^^
On a serious note, wasn't there a period when the MPAA revoked the dvd logo from generic brand manufacterers because their players were bypassing some dvd 'features'? what became of that or is it still going?
USB2.0 is the same. They didnt change it.
driving using a keyboard is no more 'suck' than using joypad. If you are really serious about the controller you have for driving games, get a steering wheel+pedal. You cant get closer to realism than that.
yup, not to mention the bonus content on some singles like videosclips, screen savers etc. It almost seems like RIAA/ARIA wants this to fail just so they can say 'look we offered a music service and nobody bought. we're going to have to sue more p2p software and lock the cd format up even further'
If online music stores really take off, I hope this isn't going to encourage artists to make shorter length songs... On the other hand this could encourage artists to pack more songs on their albums, eg instead of having 30 minutes of music, they're make it the full 72 minutes, filling the rest with tracks they wouldnt have deemed worthy but would make the fans happy. It doesnt mean these songs are bad, for example, the Smashing Pumpkins had lots of songs written which didnt make it on their albums until many years later and it made their fans very happy. I'm sure other bands would have songs of their own which didnt make the cutting floor but they weren't popular enough to release them later on.
well its already past the 14th so shouldn't sales be picking up by now? Looking at gamefags.com I have to agree the lineup this christmas looks pretty lacklustre.
I'd love to see this used on a digital camera. Imagine 2 gig of sapce to space your 5 megapixel shots. mmmm Price might be prohibitive at first but what new technology isnt?
You misunderstand. Ads are shown only when you have the client installed. Like the grandparent poster said you could have two HDs installed, or two windows isntallations on one HD or kill the process at startup etc etc, and its not going to show any ads. As long as you clock up enough ad hours/month it doesnt matter what you do any other time, so why not clock those hours when you're not using the computer?
How about switching on the ads when its time to go to work/sleep? =)
www.adaware.com might be a useful bookmark for those who take up the offer.
"No need to detect if there's a joystick or keyboard or what" A computer without a keyboard is like a console without a controller. "PS2s are equally compatible, so the game makers don't have to "scale down" graphics for less capable systems." Only problem here is that consoles are the less capable system when it comes to graphics. PC games can scale to much higher resolutions than consoles can even at the highest supported HDTV standard.
so you're saying the only dead soldiers shown on telly were americans and not english or canadians (killed in Afghanistan)? you are wrong.
"Enough fans buying a game == the studio makes more. Obviously BIS wasn't that great of a game maker." I agree that the more the studio makes the more likely they're keep the company going but the logic to your second part of that sentence is flawed. sales != quality