I don't agree with your analogy. This patent is the equivalent of everyone using a device to hold the screw, but up until now it has only been used on wood. Now Eolas comes along and patents the idea of using the screw holding device for use on metal materials.
Same tool, different media, obvious implementation. Enjoy,
I'm not trying start a flame war, but a few things don't ring true in your comments.
1) Managed directX has, at worst, a 10% performance penalty against the exact same C++ code. People are always complaining about how we have an excess of performance in todays' CPUs. This seems like a good use of it to me, thanks to #2: directX has never been the cause of major windows problems. It's one of the better API's/Libraries that Microsoft has produced (remember winG).
2) Managed code does not have buffer overflows. How many bugs in Windows and Linux, especially rootable bugs, are a result of a buffer overflow? 50%? 75% 90%? I don't know, but it is a lot. Dotnet code has zero buffer overflows. Are you stating that Windows Developers don't know how to code? I've coded Win32 for over a decade with 0 overflows. So now we can hire bad programmers because the system will protect itself from them? That makes a lot of sense. 90% of the Windows flaws come from the O/S itself, not 3rd parties. I'll speak more on managed code below.
3) Managed code avoids DLL hell: the GAC and side-by-side execution ensure that programs will continue to run on versions of libraries that they are designed to support, since minor/major version upgraded files will not be fed to these applications (although revisions still can for bug fixing reasons.) Neither the user nor developer need to even THINK about these issues - the runtime simply takes care of them. As an OS/2, Mac, Linux developer, this was a non-issue and I never lost any sleep over it. I'm glad Microsoft joined the club.
4) Managed code upgrades to 64-bit in a neutral and architecture-independent way. Apps that are "bit neutral" will run on a 32-bit system JIT'd for 32-bit mode, and those same EXACT EXE files will run in 64-bit mode on a 64-bit system, including making use of new registers and other such things. No recompiles - the JIT takes care of it. Are you reading from a press release or do you have first hand knowledge. I'm a skeptic because of the nasty (anal) 16-32 thunking mechanism they dreamed up the last CPU change. 64-bit Windows Server 2003 reviews are not glowing. Slower in most areas, faster in few. Do you have proof that they are not thunking anymore? Microsoft has to maintain backwards compatabilty with thier products, have they?
As one who has been burned by such technologies as DDE/NETDDE/NETOLE/OLE,etc (the list goes on), managed code seems to be an acronym for won't be portable C/C++ anymore. It also stands for moving target and it won't be ANSI. Does it solve any of my clients issues such as easy, cheap, and robust (deploy/manage)?
Lookup AS/400 (or iSeries). Been there, done that already. I'm just curious how Microsoft will respond to the "Uncle Ben can't use his Mac to transfer pictures to Granny Fayes computer anymore" complaints.
Are you having problems with your current filing system? If so, I'd be curious to know what they are.
I believe that linux is responsible for a huge percentage of the core improvements that MS made to windows. They never felt it was a problem to ship OSs that crashed until they saw an alternative that didn't crash, on the edge of their radar screen. An alternative that people could install on their existing PCs, an alternative that people running ISPs could use to do server work.
You are giving way too much credit to Linux for this. Remember your computing history. NT (Which is at the 2k/XP core) was a direct attack on OS/2 and Netware which owned the Intel server/workgroup market (along with Lantastic, Banyan, etc). They needed a crash proof version of windows to enter into this market. Your forgetting that NT also ran on Alpha (DEC) and PowerPC (Motorola/IBM). Companies who spend 30K on a piece of hardware are not going to want to reboot it.
In the mid nineties, everyone was getting cheap/free copies of NT 3.5/4.0 to run. I received my first free one in '95 with my SDK subscription. Linux wasn't even a blip on anyone's screen at the time (although this was the year I got my first version). This is also the time they started pushing Sql Server (again dirt cheap) to take on Gupta (sqlbase), Informix, Progress, Oracle, DB2, etc. Which could not have been done without a more robust platform to run on (NT).
As one who did v2.11 installs/administration back in the late 80's, I would like SNIPES certification for all new novell certified persons. Think of the bored admins. Put the fun back into network management:)
I don't agree with ESR on some things (and yes I am a Linux/Unix/Win32 developer) but... ANother aspect of this is the notion that all GUIs should be front-ends interfaces to some other independent back-end program, that you should build the command-line first and then build a GUI wrapper. Surely this makes sense for some things, but as a general principle?
I can't speak for ESR, but what I think he is trying to say in some off the wall way is that you should un-couple the logic/work portion of your program from the UI. This makes sense and works in the real world, regardless of the O/S or language.
guess I've used too many crappy front-ends that either omit functions (such that they're only available in the command line version) or don't implement functions correctly, such as failing to escape them for the command line.
Thats due to the implementation of the GUI, not the program itself. Sometimes your not dealing with the same programmer. What we need is a standard for CL apps so that a generic UI can build it's widgets from the --help arguments.
But probably the most hilarious quote is the following:
Open-source Unix applications are usually equal to, and are often superior to, their proprietary equivalents [Fuzz].
Your not citing any proof to refute this statement. "xfig", "xclock", "rxvt", "col", "uniq" . I know of no linux user/customer that uses these. What other examples can you cite.
People that think "Hey, it works just fine!" - nevermind the fact that it's a gaping security hole just begging to be exploited.
I'm sorry, I disagree. These OS's were the last ones that Microsoft shipped that you had total control over. Un-couple Netbios over TCP/IP, delete Outlook and IE and these systems are twice as secure as nt4/2000/xp. Add ZoneAlarm and you have a 99.9% secure system (notice how I didn't say stable:).
I have dual-boot here at home and work. But at home I find myself mostly (99.9%) in Linux (SuSE to be exact). And no I'm not a zealot, just a developer who appreciates the pleathora of tools and choices I have under Linux.
Anywho, next time you find yourself under Linux, for astronomy check out xephem. http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/ This software rocks.
I can't help you with the other software you were missing but maybe someone else can. I had frontpage working under Wine2003x but I switched over to using Mozilla's composer.
As far as Roblimo's article, I have no idea why he would start such an obvious flame fest. Even die hard Mac users know how to get around in windows:)
old PCs as thin clients, typical desktop with 4 buttons: e-mail, web, write_a_letter, modify_database;
This is where linux+Apache shines. You could provide all four of these services via Java+Mozilla at the client.
As far as thin client setup, this isn't a hard task. Look at the Diskless-HOWTO and Network-boot-howto in/usr/local|share/docs. Do some web searching for Linux+remote+boot and NFS. If you can configure a linux server then you won't have any problems with this setup.
Prior art exists with Mosaic 1.1 circa 1993. Look at the release notes for remote invocation. You owe me 1 Billon dollars for something that your lawyers should have caught. But wait, your lawyers were only looking for prior patents, not at opensource (Mosaic) or public domain software.
I also don't understand why your lawyers failed in making the point that a remote computer could always invoke a library function (Plugin) at the host or client level. Do you know how much time I wasted trying to get netDDE to work in Windows 3.1 back in 1992? This is prior art with your own software.
What is the definition of a plugin? A DLL? a.SO? In any programmers terms, its a loadable module that can exist at the host or client and invoked by a command via the network or the user.
Fire your law firm and teach the new one about computer technology. You don't owe me a billion dollars, but you owe me lobbying congress about granting stupid software patents.
In the old days (when I used to be a net admin prior to SuS and AD), you set up the clients to run batch/script files from a central server after login. I believe this is still possible using any PC O/S (win*, os2, linux etc).
1) user logs in. 2) computer runs \\central\clientupdates\todaysupdate.bat
At this point it's almost no price competition with Linux - anyone looking at selling 1,000 devices can afford spending 3 grands on corporate licenses. Drug dealers always give their wares away pretty cheap at first too. $3000 is about the size of my bonus last year. I'm glad the boss gave it to me instead of Microsoft.
Can Linux development provide the same level of support Yes, we have boxes in the field which have been running over three years without problems. We only spent one month (me) on the initial development. What support are you talking about?
and you explain the problem, then they prepare the patch. Using Linux we haven't had to patch anything.
it's safer to choose the one that consumers would be pleased with The tvio users might argue with you on this. Our customers (enterprise) don't care what is in the box, just that it works.
I would like to add... Unless you have all the same workstations installed (hardware etc..),
You will have to...
a) See which update broke the interns machine. b) Which update screwed up the file associations. c) Which update told Windows it was no longer
licensed for that feature. d) Why corporate application x7-12 no longer runs.
bad as figuring out a way to silently install the DirectX 9.0b Why are you concerned about installing DirectX 9 on corporate machines? This doesn't sound right.
Not hackers, combination of shitty software and shoddy network procedures.
1) Private network at power plant allows vendor/contractor access. 2)Vendor/Contractor inadvertantly allows RPC worm access to power plant network. 3) Worm starts rebooting computers monitoring the power grid. 4) Phase drops on power grid, failsafe systems are too busy rebooting to notice. 5) Cascade failing of the grid begins. 6) People rush home to save their beer before it becomes too warm.
I know, I missed that part and I posted a followup response to my own response:) Here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=74902&c id=6710 026
This whole thread brings up an interesting topic.
If I were to take, let say, the current image of redhat 5.2 and start a business to maintain it with all current features,bug fixes, and security updates. Could redhat say anything to me (legally) for providing paid services towards a discontinued product? I have the sources, the only requirements would be to make the changes public. (Win9x needs someone to do this as well from a reverse engineering angle). What could redhat do legally if I provided an upgrade path from RH5.x to SuSE 10x and made money off of it. Customer data remains intact, transparent migration, yada yada yada, etc.
There is money to be made here somewhere, I feel it, I'm just not the person to manage it.
Reply to my own response, go figure after a six-pack of beer on a Friday night. I'm sorry. Your question is a great example of why Linux is not free.
Due to the change in Red Hat's release policy, we either have to move to Enterprise, or change distributions.
See if SuSE USA has better terms. If they don't then tell me what kind of terms your company is looking for. As a programmer in a Win32/Linux/AIX/NCR/SCO/OS2 shop, our linux distribution comes with helpdesk support (embedded). It's cheap, but it's not free.
This may be a troll, but most enterprises stay with whats working. Why do you feel the need to upgrade all your linux servers? What will a 2.4.22 kernel get you that your not getting with a 2.4.10? Oracle (and DB2) are not kernel dependent.
A new enterprise database? Fine start a new pilot project. Document honestly what you find and make a migration path. Decide on a Win32 migration path to MS SqlServer if you have too. Whatever is best for your company.
I find some piece of software that I want to use only to find out that I have to spend half a day downloading and installing the dependencies for it before I can use it. The other most infuriating things being inconsistencies and usability of UIs.)
I agree with all your complaints.
Linux is not polished yet. You can either get your job done with it or you cant. HTML Help files are a minor issue you will see once you get your system up and running Linux. As far as the UI's, don't you like having a choice? As a person who went from an Apple to Linux I find it refreshing to use the UI that fits me best (XFCE).
From: AP Satline Subject: Microsoft was right, GPL is viral. Redmond, WA.
In the latest development in the war for users, Microsoft today announced they were correct two years ago when they called the GPL viral.
Microsoft PR spokesman "Matthew Stewart CollinsEdward" (MSCe) had this to say. "You see thier Web Site has been hacked, the GPL was just sitting there at www.gnu.org for anyone to modify". "You just can't trust any license thats not certified". "With our EULA, your guaranteed no changes in between versions". "Because of this flaw we are going to get those Linux Server users to change back to our five user version of WinXP2k+Plus."
When asked about the Windows Worm earlier this week Matthew responded "Thats not our fault, we used a modified version of the RPC specification wich was Open Sourced. Obviously it's not our fault when the GPL has been compromised".
When asked for a Linux comment Larry Allen Mark Petry (LAMP), a linux user/admin said this. "Oh man, the press is getting it all wrong. It was an FTP server problem, not a Linux one". "I, think Microsoft was behind the attack". When asked for proof, Larry said this, "Proof, you want proof, just look who is behind the latest SCO lawsuit!". He then mumbled something about "Bush" and wondered off.
When asked for interviews, Bill Gates (tantrum) and Richard Stallman (bath) were not available for additional comments.
End: AP Satline.
No o/s's were harmed during the making of this news flash.
That doesn't mean I don't want to help you, just not at this time.
I think GnuCash will wait until we have market share with the Mothers, Aunts, and non-computer linux users. It shouldn't die, just bide it's time. People like myself use a spreadsheet to organize our finances. You can't sell your product to me. Who is your target audience? Linux Mothers, Sisters, Brothers, Aunts?
Not yet, no way.
Lets concentrate on getting new users the ability to setup the Linux system they just purchased. GnuCash sales/support will follow later.
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Our star is called "The Sun," and our biggest natural satellite is called "The Moon."
:)
That is why the Apollo program produced all those Moonar landings
But seriously, there are lots of Suns and Moons in the universe, but only one Sol and Luna.
Enjoy,
For those of you new to computing, this isn't a new concept.
http://www.wohl.com/g0021.htm
Enjoy,
I don't agree with your analogy.
This patent is the equivalent of everyone using a device to hold the screw, but up until now it has only been used on wood.
Now Eolas comes along and patents the idea of using the screw holding device for use on metal materials.
Same tool, different media, obvious implementation.
Enjoy,
I'm not trying start a flame war, but a few things don't ring true in your comments.
1) Managed directX has, at worst, a 10% performance penalty against the exact same C++ code. People are always complaining about how we have an excess of performance in todays' CPUs. This seems like a good use of it to me, thanks to #2:
directX has never been the cause of major windows problems. It's one of the better API's/Libraries that Microsoft has produced (remember winG).
2) Managed code does not have buffer overflows. How many bugs in Windows and Linux, especially rootable bugs, are a result of a buffer overflow? 50%? 75% 90%? I don't know, but it is a lot. Dotnet code has zero buffer overflows.
Are you stating that Windows Developers don't know how to code? I've coded Win32 for over a decade with 0 overflows. So now we can hire bad programmers because the system will protect itself from them? That makes a lot of sense. 90% of the Windows flaws come from the O/S itself, not 3rd parties. I'll speak more on managed code below.
3) Managed code avoids DLL hell: the GAC and side-by-side execution ensure that programs will continue to run on versions of libraries that they are designed to support, since minor/major version upgraded files will not be fed to these applications (although revisions still can for bug fixing reasons.) Neither the user nor developer need to even THINK about these issues - the runtime simply takes care of them.
As an OS/2, Mac, Linux developer, this was a non-issue and I never lost any sleep over it. I'm glad Microsoft joined the club.
4) Managed code upgrades to 64-bit in a neutral and architecture-independent way. Apps that are "bit neutral" will run on a 32-bit system JIT'd for 32-bit mode, and those same EXACT EXE files will run in 64-bit mode on a 64-bit system, including making use of new registers and other such things. No recompiles - the JIT takes care of it.
Are you reading from a press release or do you have first hand knowledge. I'm a skeptic because of the nasty (anal) 16-32 thunking mechanism they dreamed up the last CPU change. 64-bit Windows Server 2003 reviews are not glowing. Slower in most areas, faster in few. Do you have proof that they are not thunking anymore? Microsoft has to maintain backwards compatabilty with thier products, have they?
As one who has been burned by such technologies as DDE/NETDDE/NETOLE/OLE,etc (the list goes on), managed code seems to be an acronym for won't be portable C/C++ anymore. It also stands for moving target and it won't be ANSI. Does it solve any of my clients issues such as easy, cheap, and robust (deploy/manage)?
Just a friendly comment.
Enjoy,
Lookup AS/400 (or iSeries). Been there, done that already. I'm just curious how Microsoft will respond to the "Uncle Ben can't use his Mac to transfer pictures to Granny Fayes computer anymore" complaints.
Are you having problems with your current filing system? If so, I'd be curious to know what they are.
Enjoy,
I believe that linux is responsible for a huge percentage of the core improvements that MS made to windows. They never felt it was a problem to ship OSs that crashed until they saw an alternative that didn't crash, on the edge of their radar screen. An alternative that people could install on their existing PCs, an alternative that people running ISPs could use to do server work.
You are giving way too much credit to Linux for this. Remember your computing history. NT (Which is at the 2k/XP core) was a direct attack on OS/2 and Netware which owned the Intel server/workgroup market (along with Lantastic, Banyan, etc). They needed a crash proof version of windows to enter into this market. Your forgetting that NT also ran on Alpha (DEC) and PowerPC (Motorola/IBM). Companies who spend 30K on a piece of hardware are not going to want to reboot it.
In the mid nineties, everyone was getting cheap/free copies of NT 3.5/4.0 to run. I received my first free one in '95 with my SDK subscription. Linux wasn't even a blip on anyone's screen at the time (although this was the year I got my first version). This is also the time they started pushing Sql Server (again dirt cheap) to take on Gupta (sqlbase), Informix, Progress, Oracle, DB2, etc. Which could not have been done without a more robust platform to run on (NT).
Enjoy,
As one who did v2.11 installs/administration back in the late 80's, I would like SNIPES certification for all new novell certified persons. Think of the bored admins. Put the fun back into network management :)
Enjoy,
Agreed, no argument there.
Enjoy,
I don't agree with ESR on some things (and yes I am a Linux/Unix/Win32 developer) but...
ANother aspect of this is the notion that all GUIs should be front-ends interfaces to some other independent back-end program, that you should build the command-line first and then build a GUI wrapper. Surely this makes sense for some things, but as a general principle?
I can't speak for ESR, but what I think he is trying to say in some off the wall way is that you should un-couple the logic/work portion of your program from the UI. This makes sense and works in the real world, regardless of the O/S or language.
guess I've used too many crappy front-ends that either omit functions (such that they're only available in the command line version) or don't implement functions correctly, such as failing to escape them for the command line.
Thats due to the implementation of the GUI, not the program itself. Sometimes your not dealing with the same programmer. What we need is a standard for CL apps so that a generic UI can build it's widgets from the --help arguments.
But probably the most hilarious quote is the following:
Open-source Unix applications are usually equal to, and are often superior to, their proprietary equivalents [Fuzz].
Your not citing any proof to refute this statement. "xfig", "xclock", "rxvt", "col", "uniq" . I know of no linux user/customer that uses these. What other examples can you cite.
No flame war intended,
Enjoy.
People that think "Hey, it works just fine!" - nevermind the fact that it's a gaping security hole just begging to be exploited.
:).
I'm sorry, I disagree. These OS's were the last ones that Microsoft shipped that you had total control over. Un-couple Netbios over TCP/IP, delete Outlook and IE and these systems are twice as secure as nt4/2000/xp. Add ZoneAlarm and you have a 99.9% secure system (notice how I didn't say stable
Enjoy,
I have dual-boot here at home and work. But at home I find myself mostly (99.9%) in Linux (SuSE to be exact). And no I'm not a zealot, just a developer who appreciates the pleathora of tools and choices I have under Linux.
:)
Anywho, next time you find yourself under Linux, for astronomy check out xephem. http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/
This software rocks.
I can't help you with the other software you were missing but maybe someone else can. I had frontpage working under Wine2003x but I switched over to using Mozilla's composer.
As far as Roblimo's article, I have no idea why he would start such an obvious flame fest. Even die hard Mac users know how to get around in windows
Enjoy,
old PCs as thin clients, typical desktop with 4 buttons: e-mail, web, write_a_letter, modify_database;
/usr/local|share/docs. Do some web searching for Linux+remote+boot and NFS.
This is where linux+Apache shines. You could provide all four of these services via Java+Mozilla at the client.
As far as thin client setup, this isn't a hard task. Look at the Diskless-HOWTO and Network-boot-howto in
If you can configure a linux server then you won't have any problems with this setup.
Enjoy,
Prior art exists with Mosaic 1.1 circa 1993. Look at the release notes for remote invocation. You owe me 1 Billon dollars for something that your lawyers should have caught. But wait, your lawyers were only looking for prior patents, not at opensource (Mosaic) or public domain software.
.SO? In any programmers terms, its a loadable module that can exist at the host or client and invoked by a command via the network or the user.
I also don't understand why your lawyers failed in making the point that a remote computer could always invoke a library function (Plugin) at the host or client level. Do you know how much time I wasted trying to get netDDE to work in Windows 3.1 back in 1992? This is prior art with your own software.
What is the definition of a plugin? A DLL? a
Fire your law firm and teach the new one about computer technology. You don't owe me a billion dollars, but you owe me lobbying congress about granting stupid software patents.
Enjoy,
In the old days (when I used to be a net admin prior to SuS and AD), you set up the clients to run batch/script files from a central server after login. I believe this is still possible using any PC O/S (win*, os2, linux etc).
1) user logs in.
2) computer runs \\central\clientupdates\todaysupdate.bat
Enjoy,
At this point it's almost no price competition with Linux - anyone looking at selling 1,000 devices can afford spending 3 grands on corporate licenses.
Drug dealers always give their wares away pretty cheap at first too. $3000 is about the size of my bonus last year. I'm glad the boss gave it to me instead of Microsoft.
Can Linux development provide the same level of support
Yes, we have boxes in the field which have been running over three years without problems. We only spent one month (me) on the initial development. What support are you talking about?
and you explain the problem, then they prepare the patch.
Using Linux we haven't had to patch anything.
it's safer to choose the one that consumers would be pleased with
The tvio users might argue with you on this. Our customers (enterprise) don't care what is in the box, just that it works.
Enjoy,
I would like to add...
Unless you have all the same workstations installed (hardware etc..),
You will have to...
a) See which update broke the interns machine.
b) Which update screwed up the file associations.
c) Which update told Windows it was no longer
licensed for that feature.
d) Why corporate application x7-12 no longer runs.
bad as figuring out a way to silently install the DirectX 9.0b
Why are you concerned about installing DirectX 9 on corporate machines? This doesn't sound right.
Enjoy,
Moderators +5 on parent.
Funny,
:)
You made me blow soda out my nose.
Thanks,
Not hackers, combination of shitty software and shoddy network procedures.
1) Private network at power plant allows vendor/contractor access.
2)Vendor/Contractor inadvertantly allows RPC worm access to power plant network.
3) Worm starts rebooting computers monitoring the power grid.
4) Phase drops on power grid, failsafe systems are too busy rebooting to notice.
5) Cascade failing of the grid begins.
6) People rush home to save their beer before it becomes too warm.
Enjoy,
I know, I missed that part and I posted a followup response to my own response :) Here:c id=6710 026
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=74902&
This whole thread brings up an interesting topic.
If I were to take, let say, the current image of redhat 5.2 and start a business to maintain it with all current features,bug fixes, and security updates. Could redhat say anything to me (legally) for providing paid services towards a discontinued product? I have the sources, the only requirements would be to make the changes public. (Win9x needs someone to do this as well from a reverse engineering angle).
What could redhat do legally if I provided an upgrade path from RH5.x to SuSE 10x and made money off of it. Customer data remains intact, transparent migration, yada yada yada, etc.
There is money to be made here somewhere, I feel it, I'm just not the person to manage it.
Food for thought, and enjoy.
Reply to my own response, go figure after a six-pack of beer on a Friday night. I'm sorry.
Your question is a great example of why Linux is not free.
Due to the change in Red Hat's release policy, we either have to move to Enterprise, or change distributions.
See if SuSE USA has better terms. If they don't then tell me what kind of terms your company is looking for. As a programmer in a Win32/Linux/AIX/NCR/SCO/OS2 shop, our linux distribution comes with helpdesk support (embedded). It's cheap, but it's not free.
Enjoy,
This may be a troll, but most enterprises stay with whats working. Why do you feel the need to upgrade all your linux servers? What will a 2.4.22 kernel get you that your not getting with a 2.4.10? Oracle (and DB2) are not kernel dependent.
A new enterprise database? Fine start a new pilot project. Document honestly what you find and make a migration path. Decide on a Win32 migration path to MS SqlServer if you have too. Whatever is best for your company.
Your question demands more information.
Enjoy,
I find some piece of software that I want to use only to find out that I have to spend half a day downloading and installing the dependencies for it before I can use it. The other most infuriating things being inconsistencies and usability of UIs.)
I agree with all your complaints.
Linux is not polished yet. You can either get your job done with it or you cant. HTML Help files are a minor issue you will see once you get your system up and running Linux. As far as the UI's, don't you like having a choice? As a person who went from an Apple to Linux I find it refreshing to use the UI that fits me best (XFCE).
Enjoy.
From: AP Satline
Subject: Microsoft was right, GPL is viral.
Redmond, WA.
In the latest development in the war for users,
Microsoft today announced they were correct two years ago when they called the GPL viral.
Microsoft PR spokesman "Matthew Stewart CollinsEdward" (MSCe) had this to say. "You see thier Web Site has been hacked, the GPL was just sitting there at www.gnu.org for anyone to modify". "You just can't trust any license thats not certified". "With our EULA, your guaranteed no changes in between versions". "Because of this flaw we are going to get those Linux Server users to change back to our five user version of WinXP2k+Plus."
When asked about the Windows Worm earlier this week Matthew responded "Thats not our fault, we used a modified version of the RPC specification wich was Open Sourced. Obviously it's not our fault when the GPL has been compromised".
When asked for a Linux comment Larry Allen Mark Petry (LAMP), a linux user/admin said this. "Oh man, the press is getting it all wrong. It was an FTP server problem, not a Linux one". "I, think Microsoft was behind the attack". When asked for proof, Larry said this, "Proof, you want proof, just look who is behind the latest SCO lawsuit!". He then mumbled something about "Bush" and wondered off.
When asked for interviews, Bill Gates (tantrum) and Richard Stallman (bath) were not available for additional comments.
End: AP Satline.
No o/s's were harmed during the making of this news flash.
That doesn't mean I don't want to help you, just not at this time.
I think GnuCash will wait until we have market share with the Mothers, Aunts, and non-computer linux users. It shouldn't die, just bide it's time. People like myself use a spreadsheet to organize our finances. You can't sell your product to me. Who is your target audience? Linux Mothers, Sisters, Brothers, Aunts?
Not yet, no way.
Lets concentrate on getting new users the ability to setup the Linux system they just purchased. GnuCash sales/support will follow later.
Enjoy,