Some extremely valid points. In particular you need to remember that all tests were using ODBC drivers! This can be one hell of a bottle neck for performance since each DB is very different!
The article doesn't mention anything about this or even with which ODBC driver they used the different databases.
The Great Bridge article did not mention in any detail what sort of transactions were being used on any of the DB's, what specific versions of the ODBC drivers were being used, with what OS and what tweaking! I rememeber that a lather large update into Infomix was tweaked by an Informix engineer using from 14 hours to 6 hours!! This was running EU10K's with nothing else on those beasts.... so there is always a lot of room for tweaking a DB's... Benchmarks MUST therefore be taken with a big chunk of salt.
Point 5. is very valid... hell with windows you would be lucky to be able to remotely administor an NT box without pcAnywhere! BUT just imagine, trying to crack into your own damn box!!
There is a lot to think off for any company when looking at a database, and one of the first words you will hear is support!! Well following the great OSS model like many other companies in many other areas of technology we have a company that can support PostgreSQL!!Landmark has now publicly announced the formation of their company, called Great Bridge, to provide commercial support for PostgreSQL. -- PostgreSQL webpage
The test shows that postgresql is good, and having used it for some coursework some time ago I can say that I am kinda suprized. MySql was a hell of a lot faster at the time and was so cause it provided next to nothing from the SQL-92 standard (BUT then again its not trying to say it does... its freaking awesome for webstuff... the winner handsdown).
Have always seem postgresql as the DB you use when you can't afford a copy of the two unamed db's!! ORACLE and INFORMIX....unless they were talk about FoxPro and DB2 ? I guess it is the choice when you want to learn about databases and dont want to be limited to what MySql can offer. I used it and it was just what i needed. Since then they have gone ahead and added better mechanisms for foriegn keys, better support for triggers and procedures and a slew of other stuff that Oracle and Informix have had for years.
The GUI interfaces for it have also become much nicer to use and all in all its pretty good for most tasks..
BUT, i am not sure how this article can claim it beat the TWO BIG DB's cause they still have a hell of a lot more functionality and that will of course cause a little bit of a speed hit! I mean I am all for this software, i used it as an alternative to MicroSoft Access (hehe could this be one of the two big ones ? or SQLServer ? ?) and it rocked! SO its good to see it was a clear winner... in speed of transactions processed! The PostgreSQL team is doing some good work and thats always good to see, but maybe we should take some of these benchmarks with a pinch of salt!! Just a warning, having used it, Informix and Oracle, i would be careful to just say speed is all you want. I mean there are a lot of things to consider, like how locking works with each, how rollbacks are handled and what kind of isolation levels are available ? This is something you dont have to worry about till you are doing a full product! well just my views.... a warning i guess!
This place will be a great plug for weather.com!
Just imagine the looks on an Admins face when he sees a few days of cloudy weather!!!
Its a nice move towards being more ECO friendly, and if they can get this to work, hell there is a lot of great desert land that can start serving up the pages!
Fuller stressed that Inprise/Borland is fully refocused on its core customer base -- the developer community.
Well it seems that are trying to revamp their image, and its good to hear! Borland was cool back in that day!! I started programming on Turbo Pascal, moved on to Turbo C++ and with all its quirks the thing ran just fine on a nice little IBM 386 machine!!! Never been so happy with newer progamming environments till i started using Emacs that is!
Also notice the emphasis on saying that they will not release buggy code (which is really difficult when it comes to compilers and RAD tools). This is more of a "Look we are trying to change.. give us a chance" news release! Ohh... yeah Mac OS/X that too... but look here at us!! we can change promise. I am not sure on this but was'nt Delphi a flop..... i could be completely wrong but all i hear about is VB (not a windoz coder myself.. into server side code!)
Metallica... I have loved your music. But today I think that you have sunk to a level where its better to be a fan of some damn boyband!!! HELL they would not go after their fans. NOTHING is worse than having a good band go to a BAD lawyer.... YO whats up with the interview with metallica!!!!
Bloody hell, So when do i start getting pulled over by some freking web start up for hogging to much bandwidth!!!
The entire idea of saying that the reason we have buggy software is due to "the suits" is a bit harsh to say the least. Yes, it is true that the current business model does put a lot of power in the hands of upper level management, as far as deadlines and product placement are concerned. BUT, it must be remembered that it must have been a bad programming idea to start with that caused the bug. I mean there is no excuse for bad programming, and a lot of times the commercial software houses are trying to stop it as well. By having Best coding practices, requirements for documentation and all the other jazz you have to go through a business is just trying to make sure that all the coders are on the same page!
That said, lets go to the new OSS model of business. First of all there is very little worry about trying to motivate coders. The software project does not start till someone thinks its a good idea and if it becomes widely accepted the number of hackers (Hey i used it right) ready to help improve things will be there!!! Now by having ppl. code for something just cause they want to will mean that a lot of the motivation and other practices that a normal software house must do are not needed. It is also true that the style of writing software does tend to get the best ppl. for the job! I say this cause like the question asks, you dont have an idiot coding the most important stuff!! THe idea is that each person selects for him/herself the area they want to work on. With this self selection you get arround the problem of delegating responsibility.
Now, what about the business side of things. I agree that at times the businesss side, the "suits" can take things a bit far, but there has to be some money in OSS for things to work. And clearly there is a lot of money... NOT in the price of the software but its the services and suspport that you can setup to use OSS that has the real money. And this is where the businesses are coming along. REDHAT, they are working to provide these services and are giving hte world what it wants, support and some assurance that when things go wrong we will be there for you!!
Now where does this leave the suits and the buggy software.... Well they are still arround trying to make a few bucks out of the whole deal. BUT since the code is not ":theirs" anymore and dont control the tech. ppl. the code will get mroe time to get completed and the releases will be hopefully better!
SO why are the suits now futher away from the tech ? Well there is going to be no money in the software itself! Hahaha, its free.... what are you going to do, make a few bucks on shipping and handling:) Well now they are onto the other areas where you canmake money... SUPORT and INSTALATION and DOCUMENTATION and WHATNOT!!! So i guess with better sfotware we can be ready for buggy support and a whole slew of marketing for "THE BETTER LINUX ! "
Well there have been many times at LAN parties when people start talkig about games they would like/not like to see! And there are a few things that always get brought up, and some of which have been touched by the article. I mean almost everyone (in a small group of gamers) would like to have a trippy car racing game!! That i think is a classic, i mean we have car games which are altogether psychotic (GTA 2), all time fav (Test Drive) and racing games ()!! Hell there have been enough toy car racing games, but none of these have situations where you get different drivers to drive with! You know, the stoned guy, the person who will not go over 35 in any speed zone, or the ediot who cant co-ordinate worth crap!!! Ahhhh..... And then of course there are games which have been made but should have just stayed on the drawing board. One that comes to mind is GulfWar (a middle eastern version of the war!) It was insane, all terminal graphics (Dos days) and you would type in commands as either Bush or Saddam!!! It was just insane how bad that game was....soo horible that it was funny!! then there are the classic games that just cannot be forgotten (Jbird...WallStreet...and of course PitStop)
NOW what about all those double dragon rip offs back in the day ppl... wasted a lot of money on those machines, everything from Micheal Jackson to Rambo, running down the same looking maps pressing the same buttons (Back and Both Fire buttons --- For elbow in DD)! Ahhh..... those were also some games you would think should never have come out!!
Hmm great article if you think that someone was able to sum up soo many bad ideas.. now i want to see what idiot decides to actually code up one of these just for the heck of it!!
NOT for XFree 4.0... Precision is still working on that! I played Q3 when i was running 3.3.5 and it ran really nice, AGP GART and all that compiled and ran smooth as silk! Waiting for 4.0 to show its power!
there's nothing like playing Quake3 on a system on which you used du -s * | grep "M" just a minute ago Arrggghhh.... Got the G400... love the card, but its kinda rough having to wait for Quake3 and UT support in Linux... having to reboot into WinDoz for UT is such a bore! And I completely agree with ATI not being able to deliver what they promise! The Fury was to be some monster with 32 Megs of RAM and it just sucked for what it cost! WHich is what I am thinking about this chip... its probably going to cost a BUTT load!
128 Meg Support at 200 Mhz.
30 million transistors, in an.18 micron technology
HDTV hardware decoder, 1.5 GigaTexel/Second rendering engine!
Charisma Engine ? I kinda like the name... something like velocity engine. But Radeon is definately a nice name!
I just find it hard to believe that ATI will take over the Voodoo5 and GeForce 2! I mean they have always been first out with the higher memory and stuff... BUT I have never liked the chips till now! Hmm any idea about the G800's... Matrox is one company thats my bet at all times!
Hmm linux support would be nice... but i will wait till they deliver!
Intel Bring it.... RAMBUS... gonna go BUST!
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I love to hear about such supply problems! Hell i cant freaking afford an Athlon right now anyway, but its good to hear that there is for once a lot of demand for AMD. It is a cost effective solution for anyone today! I have used a K7 system (550) with Linux on it, and its a nice system to use and man its a hell of a lot cheaper than the Intels! The cost difference is AMD 500 - $146 P3 500 - $178
AMD 750 - $311 P3 750 - $526
Now add to this that the cost of the mother boards is also higher... A few frames is all you get if you go with a P3 on the higher ends!! I think the argument is simple, all the games have hte support for Athlons and so you cant use the argument you could back in teh day of the K6-2/3:) AMD is going hot with their German Plant and if they can freaking get swapped out of stock means that they have definately overcome the problems from back in the day!!! Ohh..... now i wonder what is going to happen to RAMBUS with all this happening... a lot of ppl. just cannot justify spending that much for 128 Megs, cause it is just not financially justified!!
AMD is the one I would go for... you can get the 133Mhz Mobo's with AGP 4x and a 600 Mhz K7 for 360! Now thats good price, and the memory is not going to cost you that much either!!
WHEN are they going to come out with the dual processor MOBO"s for the Athlon... thats going to be freaking awesome. I mean thats where hte EV6 should shine.
Back in the day of Garage Days!!!
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CAN I MAIL IN.02$ to him ? "It is therefore sickening to know that our art is being traded like a commodity rather than the art that it is." - Lars Ulrich, Metallica Drummer ART ----- yeah and we are trading art... so by not putting a price on the music we CANNOT be making it a commodity. I have always had a lot of respect for Metallica, they have been through a lot, but this makes me sick! BY THE WAY LARS, I heard SandM on MP3's and then went ahead and bought the CD... cause i like the art (from MP3's) and bought the COMMODITY for $20 from some CD place....
Well its not that long ago that Metallica was a band that just a few of the hardcore Metal Fans would listen too... Bon Jovi and others like then were the taste of everyone else.... Now i remember when they came out with Garage days i had a copy of it, and some cool undergrounhd shit that was really really good... and i had made caassette copies for my friends to get them to hear how cool Metallica was!... Now you freaking stop that. i mean common dude, we have been passing music about for years! that was the whole freaking reason to have a two tape player.. so you could have your friends enjoy music as well!! Now that you can do it a bit more long distance and easy you stomp on it!!!
This sucks really, cause then they were probably glad to see us "distribute" their art.. now when the same is being done, but they are famous enough, they are goinng to go after their fans! LARS grow the F. up and change your statement, it sounds dumb as hell and of all bands I would hope Metallica would not be one to do this shit! I have been a fan for years.... this is making it tough!!!
HOW many Metallica fans did not copy Tapes back in the day when they were coming out with Kill'em All and Master of Puppets ? I dont like Napster too much myself cause it kills campus bandwith making surfing the web a pain... but this still sucks worse...
Well its the truth, one of the main reason for killing the L2 Cache is that no one (thenormal users) cares about that number... the Processor speed on the other hand... now thats a seller!
On a more serious note, the L2 cache makes it more exp. to make chips, if it is kept at larger sizes and hence you see Intel and AMD making handstands to get away with using smaller Cache and still keep pushing up the Mhz Limit...
WOW.... you know that all the Intel engineers knew that this could be done... BUT they advertise that the P3 is faster cause it can do PC100 / PC133 or Rambus speeds (Hell i aint seen one yet!!! I will tell you when i do). NOW... in come the overclockers, and WOW, can these babies overclock!!! So everyone (hackers and gamers) will realize that these chips rock and they will become more famous than the alternatives.
OK now here is what I love about Intel.. Gamers like em cause they overclock.. which is the coolest thing to do if you ask me.. freaking having more cooling in your system is like adding stuff to a cars engine to let it BREATH!!! And well the ppl. who dont overclock will love the price... Intel has this all figured out I tell you and this is going to be just like the 300A's!!
Just for your INFO: They are keeping the clock at 66Mhz (default)... now as the article mentions this is usefull cause you can overclock by simply changing the FSB to 100!!!
The 566 has a 8.5X multiplier and a 66MHz bus speed (8.5 x 66MHz = 566MHz). We used an Abit BE6-II for our overclocking tests, and after dabbing on a little thermal paste and slapping on a fat fan, we started overclocking our first processor. The FSB speeds flew by as we went higher and higher. The CPU was still stable when we hit the magic 100MHz FSB for a 850MHz clock speed.
From the links above and the pix. from other pages it seems to be something right out of an old sci-fi or the like! Damned, Im in ohio and I looked out a little after midnight... did not get crap.. anyone carry your digital camera with you ? Would like to see how this STRONG (G3) looked like..
Hmm thinking if Apple may use this as a add campaign....
Ok look i have a friend who's friend actually had his computer blow up on him. Man it was toasted, video card, hard drive, DVD player, sound card and all!! The monitor is not even working any more! Who knows that these people can do next, I mean this guy was lucky he was not in his dorm room..
So I am telling you all to take care not to let this happen to you. Now here are a few more things about the virus you must know....
1) If you have a AMD K-7 or Intel P3 ( 600 Mhz and above ) you are at the highest risk! I mean you have the fastest chips that take the most power and are they huge!!! So if you have these chips and would like to protect yourself please contact me and I will be able to help get these things off your hands!
2) All other hardware is also at danger and i can help get rid of that stuff too!! Specially U2W SCSI drives.
I have been using Mozilla since way back in the day. I remember when it could not render the front page of Nvidia.com.... then it was close.. and now its on the money!
There has been a whole lot of good things happen! In the past few months i get nightly builds for my linux system and it runs awesome! IN the time I was using XFree 3.9.17 it was the only browser i could use.. NetScape for some reason would not work!!! And i got to like it a lot!! I really think that they have done a lot better than I think most ppl. would have thought!!
Great going Mozilla.... and may Netscape 6 be renamed in your honor!! I mean it really makes no sense to have Netscape 6 be the new name!!! call it Mozilla MileStone 2000.
The Kernel (which Linus maintains). 3.3.99-Pre2 is out....Great job ppl!
Well just chaning the package manager, the installation GUI and the location of files (RH puts them in all the wierd places even now) just means that you have to compile code with those in mind! I mean Slackware has stuck it its BSD style installation and RedHat and others have moved to more GUI stuff in all their Admin tasks! The libraries and all are still found in all the distros and if they arenot install them:) So in reply i just dont see how a distro could make sure that it does not work with linux software! but maybe there is and i just dont know of it yet. just my.02$!
OK so if today all the linux developers go NUTS and decide to support some other OS doesn't the fact that the source code of their code is available provide the best garuntee for a business ? I mean any software company could tank, at any time. But if an OSS software project loses its developers all you need is time before some other developers take off where they left off (IF in fact the software does have any market potential or penetration). In every example given in the article the potential to enter the market of developing linux software or maintaining its software is freaking huge!!! Intel is now a dominant hardware manufacturer, and Linux runs easily on it. Even the old guard hardware manufacturers like IBM and Hewlett-Packard sell Intel-based product lines.
Now i can see that IBM sells its NetFinity servers but it is still pushing the AS/400 and RS/6000 series as the REAL servers! And I just dont see Intel based machines being able to take on the BIG tasks that a lot of heavy iron from IBM does. And I just dont see an Intel box working in the place of an Sun EU10K system (*droll*). Not just cause of the hardware, but also cause Linux is still not as developed as the other Unix's.......
"Cream rises to the top. You don't find the cream unless the milk is out there."
Penguin says : I'm the cream of the crop... i rise to the top.
He likes the configuration ability of RH were as I have always like the command line way of configuring things
Well I am not sure how he can claim to have more configuration ability in RH's more GUI way of doing things. Slackware rules with how easy it is to just make changes to the initialization scripts! I found that a pain in RedHat... Not to mention software upgrades!! I like things HOT of the presses, and most RH users just seem to not want to compile stuff. I mean it makes sense, either compile your own software or just wait for the RPM to come by.
I am not saying that RPMS are all bad, I dont like em at all, cause i am a control freak! and most ppl who are control freaks dont like having someone else tell them were stuff should go. AND man do RPMS do stupid things. For instance the PostgreSQL Rpm goes into/var/lib/ Freaking Binaries going under the/var/lib tree... someone please explain this to me!! isnt/usr/local/postgres a much better place to put things!! Anyway, back to the topic, i find Slackware much more configurable and feel that RH takes way too much of a GUI approach!!! Slackware ROCKS the house!!!
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Some extremely valid points. In particular you need to remember that all tests were using ODBC drivers! This can be one hell of a bottle neck for performance since each DB is very different!
The article doesn't mention anything about this or even with which ODBC driver they used the different databases.
The Great Bridge article did not mention in any detail what sort of transactions were being used on any of the DB's, what specific versions of the ODBC drivers were being used, with what OS and what tweaking! I rememeber that a lather large update into Infomix was tweaked by an Informix engineer using from 14 hours to 6 hours!! This was running EU10K's with nothing else on those beasts.... so there is always a lot of room for tweaking a DB's... Benchmarks MUST therefore be taken with a big chunk of salt.
Point 5. is very valid... hell with windows you would be lucky to be able to remotely administor an NT box without pcAnywhere! BUT just imagine, trying to crack into your own damn box!!
as they try to hack something that can remotely compete with AOL's "You've got mail..."
There is a lot to think off for any company when looking at a database, and one of the first words you will hear is support!! Well following the great OSS model like many other companies in many other areas of technology we have a company that can support PostgreSQL!!Landmark has now publicly announced the formation of their company, called Great Bridge, to provide commercial support for PostgreSQL. -- PostgreSQL webpage
The test shows that postgresql is good, and having used it for some coursework some time ago I can say that I am kinda suprized. MySql was a hell of a lot faster at the time and was so cause it provided next to nothing from the SQL-92 standard (BUT then again its not trying to say it does... its freaking awesome for webstuff... the winner handsdown).
Have always seem postgresql as the DB you use when you can't afford a copy of the two unamed db's!! ORACLE and INFORMIX....unless they were talk about FoxPro and DB2 ? I guess it is the choice when you want to learn about databases and dont want to be limited to what MySql can offer. I used it and it was just what i needed. Since then they have gone ahead and added better mechanisms for foriegn keys, better support for triggers and procedures and a slew of other stuff that Oracle and Informix have had for years.
The GUI interfaces for it have also become much nicer to use and all in all its pretty good for most tasks..
BUT, i am not sure how this article can claim it beat the TWO BIG DB's cause they still have a hell of a lot more functionality and that will of course cause a little bit of a speed hit! I mean I am all for this software, i used it as an alternative to MicroSoft Access (hehe could this be one of the two big ones ? or SQLServer ? ?) and it rocked! SO its good to see it was a clear winner... in speed of transactions processed! The PostgreSQL team is doing some good work and thats always good to see, but maybe we should take some of these benchmarks with a pinch of salt!! Just a warning, having used it, Informix and Oracle, i would be careful to just say speed is all you want. I mean there are a lot of things to consider, like how locking works with each, how rollbacks are handled and what kind of isolation levels are available ? This is something you dont have to worry about till you are doing a full product! well just my views.... a warning i guess!
ndfa$ telnet coffee
Trying 10.1.1.25
Connected
uClinux 2.0.38.1pre7
username: root
password:
# make coffee -strength 10 -cups 3
Making coffee now
ahhh.... geeks, turning coffee (caffine) into code for generations!
This place will be a great plug for weather.com! Just imagine the looks on an Admins face when he sees a few days of cloudy weather!!! Its a nice move towards being more ECO friendly, and if they can get this to work, hell there is a lot of great desert land that can start serving up the pages!
Just a keyboard will do fine thanks! and if you can hook it up to the TV!!!
Apple is the only company that i know that thinks outside the box, this thing is still black an old looking (a little like old Sparc 2's).
And the specs, hell you could make a full blown computer for that much (330 bucks with monitor)!!
And its still ugly___
At least they got the OS right, even though having Netscape as your only browser will not be the best Internet Experience!!
Fuller stressed that Inprise/Borland is fully refocused on its core customer base -- the developer community.
Well it seems that are trying to revamp their image, and its good to hear! Borland was cool back in that day!! I started programming on Turbo Pascal, moved on to Turbo C++ and with all its quirks the thing ran just fine on a nice little IBM 386 machine!!! Never been so happy with newer progamming environments till i started using Emacs that is!
Also notice the emphasis on saying that they will not release buggy code (which is really difficult when it comes to compilers and RAD tools). This is more of a "Look we are trying to change.. give us a chance" news release! Ohh... yeah Mac OS/X that too... but look here at us!! we can change promise. I am not sure on this but was'nt Delphi a flop..... i could be completely wrong but all i hear about is VB (not a windoz coder myself.. into server side code!)
Will this still work....
Metallica... I have loved your music. But today I think that you have sunk to a level where its better to be a fan of some damn boyband!!!
HELL they would not go after their fans. NOTHING is worse than having a good band go to a BAD lawyer.... YO whats up with the interview with metallica!!!!
Bloody hell, So when do i start getting pulled over by some freking web start up for hogging to much bandwidth!!!
The entire idea of saying that the reason we have buggy software is due to "the suits" is a bit harsh to say the least. Yes, it is true that the current business model does put a lot of power in the hands of upper level management, as far as deadlines and product placement are concerned. BUT, it must be remembered that it must have been a bad programming idea to start with that caused the bug. I mean there is no excuse for bad programming, and a lot of times the commercial software houses are trying to stop it as well. By having Best coding practices, requirements for documentation and all the other jazz you have to go through a business is just trying to make sure that all the coders are on the same page!
:) Well now they are onto the other areas where you canmake money... SUPORT and INSTALATION and DOCUMENTATION and WHATNOT!!! So i guess with better sfotware we can be ready for buggy support and a whole slew of marketing for "THE BETTER LINUX ! "
That said, lets go to the new OSS model of business. First of all there is very little worry about trying to motivate coders. The software project does not start till someone thinks its a good idea and if it becomes widely accepted the number of hackers (Hey i used it right) ready to help improve things will be there!!!
Now by having ppl. code for something just cause they want to will mean that a lot of the motivation and other practices that a normal software house must do are not needed. It is also true that the style of writing software does tend to get the best ppl. for the job! I say this cause like the question asks, you dont have an idiot coding the most important stuff!! THe idea is that each person selects for him/herself the area they want to work on. With this self selection you get arround the problem of delegating responsibility.
Now, what about the business side of things. I agree that at times the businesss side, the "suits" can take things a bit far, but there has to be some money in OSS for things to work. And clearly there is a lot of money... NOT in the price of the software but its the services and suspport that you can setup to use OSS that has the real money. And this is where the businesses are coming along. REDHAT, they are working to provide these services and are giving hte world what it wants, support and some assurance that when things go wrong we will be there for you!!
Now where does this leave the suits and the buggy software.... Well they are still arround trying to make a few bucks out of the whole deal. BUT since the code is not ":theirs" anymore and dont control the tech. ppl. the code will get mroe time to get completed and the releases will be hopefully better!
SO why are the suits now futher away from the tech ? Well there is going to be no money in the software itself! Hahaha, its free.... what are you going to do, make a few bucks on shipping and handling
Well there have been many times at LAN parties when people start talkig about games they would like/not like to see! And there are a few things that always get brought up, and some of which have been touched by the article. I mean almost everyone (in a small group of gamers) would like to have a trippy car racing game!! That i think is a classic, i mean we have car games which are altogether psychotic (GTA 2), all time fav (Test Drive) and racing games ()!!
Hell there have been enough toy car racing games, but none of these have situations where you get different drivers to drive with! You know, the stoned guy, the person who will not go over 35 in any speed zone, or the ediot who cant co-ordinate worth crap!!! Ahhhh.....
And then of course there are games which have been made but should have just stayed on the drawing board. One that comes to mind is GulfWar (a middle eastern version of the war!) It was insane, all terminal graphics (Dos days) and you would type in commands as either Bush or Saddam!!! It was just insane how bad that game was....soo horible that it was funny!!
then there are the classic games that just cannot be forgotten (Jbird...WallStreet...and of course PitStop)
NOW what about all those double dragon rip offs back in the day ppl... wasted a lot of money on those machines, everything from Micheal Jackson to Rambo, running down the same looking maps pressing the same buttons (Back and Both Fire buttons --- For elbow in DD)! Ahhh..... those were also some games you would think should never have come out!!
Hmm great article if you think that someone was able to sum up soo many bad ideas.. now i want to see what idiot decides to actually code up one of these just for the heck of it!!
NOT for XFree 4.0... Precision is still working on that! I played Q3 when i was running 3.3.5 and it ran really nice, AGP GART and all that compiled and ran smooth as silk! Waiting for 4.0 to show its power!
there's nothing like playing Quake3 on a system on which you used du -s * | grep "M" just a minute ago
Arrggghhh.... Got the G400... love the card, but its kinda rough having to wait for Quake3 and UT support in Linux... having to reboot into WinDoz for UT is such a bore! And I completely agree with ATI not being able to deliver what they promise! The Fury was to be some monster with 32 Megs of RAM and it just sucked for what it cost! WHich is what I am thinking about this chip... its probably going to cost a BUTT load!
128 Meg Support at 200 Mhz. .18 micron technology
30 million transistors, in an
HDTV hardware decoder, 1.5 GigaTexel/Second rendering engine!
Charisma Engine ? I kinda like the name... something like velocity engine. But Radeon is definately a nice name!
I just find it hard to believe that ATI will take over the Voodoo5 and GeForce 2! I mean they have always been first out with the higher memory and stuff... BUT I have never liked the chips till now! Hmm any idea about the G800's... Matrox is one company thats my bet at all times!
Hmm linux support would be nice... but i will wait till they deliver!
I love to hear about such supply problems! Hell i cant freaking afford an Athlon right now anyway, but its good to hear that there is for once a lot of demand for AMD. It is a cost effective solution for anyone today! I have used a K7 system (550) with Linux on it, and its a nice system to use and man its a hell of a lot cheaper than the Intels! The cost difference is
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AMD 500 - $146
P3 500 - $178
AMD 750 - $311
P3 750 - $526
Now add to this that the cost of the mother boards is also higher... A few frames is all you get if you go with a P3 on the higher ends!! I think the argument is simple, all the games have hte support for Athlons and so you cant use the argument you could back in teh day of the K6-2/3
AMD is going hot with their German Plant and if they can freaking get swapped out of stock means that they have definately overcome the problems from back in the day!!!
Ohh..... now i wonder what is going to happen to RAMBUS with all this happening... a lot of ppl. just cannot justify spending that much for 128 Megs, cause it is just not financially justified!!
AMD is the one I would go for... you can get the 133Mhz Mobo's with AGP 4x and a 600 Mhz K7 for 360! Now thats good price, and the memory is not going to cost you that much either!!
WHEN are they going to come out with the dual processor MOBO"s for the Athlon... thats going to be freaking awesome. I mean thats where hte EV6 should shine.
CAN I MAIL IN .02$ to him ?
"It is therefore sickening to know that our art is being traded like a commodity rather than the art that it is."
- Lars Ulrich,
Metallica Drummer
ART ----- yeah and we are trading art... so by not putting a price on the music we CANNOT be making it a commodity. I have always had a lot of respect for Metallica, they have been through a lot, but this makes me sick! BY THE WAY LARS, I heard SandM on MP3's and then went ahead and bought the CD... cause i like the art (from MP3's) and bought the COMMODITY for $20 from some CD place....
Well its not that long ago that Metallica was a band that just a few of the hardcore Metal Fans would listen too... Bon Jovi and others like then were the taste of everyone else.... Now i remember when they came out with Garage days i had a copy of it, and some cool undergrounhd shit that was really really good... and i had made caassette copies for my friends to get them to hear how cool Metallica was!... Now you freaking stop that. i mean common dude, we have been passing music about for years! that was the whole freaking reason to have a two tape player.. so you could have your friends enjoy music as well!!
Now that you can do it a bit more long distance and easy you stomp on it!!!
This sucks really, cause then they were probably glad to see us "distribute" their art.. now when the same is being done, but they are famous enough, they are goinng to go after their fans! LARS grow the F. up and change your statement, it sounds dumb as hell and of all bands I would hope Metallica would not be one to do this shit! I have been a fan for years.... this is making it tough!!!
HOW many Metallica fans did not copy Tapes back in the day when they were coming out with Kill'em All and Master of Puppets ? I dont like Napster too much myself cause it kills campus bandwith making surfing the web a pain... but this still sucks worse...
There is nothing like a "Free Lunch"
Well its the truth, one of the main reason for killing the L2 Cache is that no one (thenormal users) cares about that number... the Processor speed on the other hand... now thats a seller!
On a more serious note, the L2 cache makes it more exp. to make chips, if it is kept at larger sizes and hence you see Intel and AMD making handstands to get away with using smaller Cache and still keep pushing up the Mhz Limit...
WOW.... you know that all the Intel engineers knew that this could be done... BUT they advertise that the P3 is faster cause it can do PC100 / PC133 or Rambus speeds (Hell i aint seen one yet!!! I will tell you when i do). NOW... in come the overclockers, and WOW, can these babies overclock!!! So everyone (hackers and gamers) will realize that these chips rock and they will become more famous than the alternatives.
OK now here is what I love about Intel.. Gamers like em cause they overclock.. which is the coolest thing to do if you ask me.. freaking having more cooling in your system is like adding stuff to a cars engine to let it BREATH!!! And well the ppl. who dont overclock will love the price... Intel has this all figured out I tell you and this is going to be just like the 300A's!!
Just for your INFO: They are keeping the clock at 66Mhz (default)... now as the article mentions this is usefull cause you can overclock by simply changing the FSB to 100!!!
The 566 has a 8.5X multiplier and a 66MHz bus speed (8.5 x 66MHz = 566MHz). We used an Abit BE6-II for our overclocking tests, and after dabbing on a little thermal paste and slapping on a fat fan, we started overclocking our first processor. The FSB speeds flew by as we went higher and higher. The CPU was still stable when we hit the magic 100MHz FSB for a 850MHz clock speed.
From the links above and the pix. from other
pages it seems to be something right out of
an old sci-fi or the like! Damned, Im in ohio
and I looked out a little after midnight...
did not get crap.. anyone carry your digital
camera with you ? Would like to see how this
STRONG (G3) looked like..
Hmm thinking if Apple may use this as a add
campaign....
Ok look i have a friend who's friend actually had his computer blow up on him. Man it was toasted, video card, hard drive, DVD player, sound card and all!! The monitor is not even working any more! Who knows that these people can do next, I mean this guy was lucky he was not in his dorm room..
So I am telling you all to take care not to let this happen to you. Now here are a few more things about the virus you must know....
1) If you have a AMD K-7 or Intel P3 ( 600 Mhz and above ) you are at the highest risk! I mean you have the fastest chips that take the most power and are they huge!!! So if you have these chips and would like to protect yourself please contact me and I will be able to help get these things off your hands!
2) All other hardware is also at danger and i can help get rid of that stuff too!! Specially U2W SCSI drives.
I have been using Mozilla since way back in the day. I remember when it could not render the front page of Nvidia.com.... then it was close.. and now its on the money!
There has been a whole lot of good things happen! In the past few months i get nightly builds for my linux system and it runs awesome! IN the time I was using XFree 3.9.17 it was the only browser i could use.. NetScape for some reason would not work!!! And i got to like it a lot!! I really think that they have done a lot better than I think most ppl. would have thought!!
Great going Mozilla.... and may Netscape 6 be renamed in your honor!! I mean it really makes no sense to have Netscape 6 be the new name!!! call it Mozilla MileStone 2000.
Hmm So where is party going to be ? ?
The Kernel (which Linus maintains). 3.3.99-Pre2 is out....Great job ppl!
:) So in reply i just dont see how a distro could make sure that it does not work with linux software! but maybe there is and i just dont know of it yet. .02$!
Well just chaning the package manager, the installation GUI and the location of files (RH puts them in all the wierd places even now) just means that you have to compile code with those in mind! I mean Slackware has stuck it its BSD style installation and RedHat and others have moved to more GUI stuff in all their Admin tasks! The libraries and all are still found in all the distros and if they arenot install them
just my
OK so if today all the linux developers go NUTS and decide to support some other OS doesn't the fact that the source code of their code is available provide the best garuntee for a business ?
I mean any software company could tank, at any time. But if an OSS software project loses its developers all you need is time before some other developers take off where they left off (IF in fact the software does have any market potential or penetration). In every example given in the article the potential to enter the market of developing linux software or maintaining its software is freaking huge!!!
Intel is now a dominant hardware manufacturer, and Linux runs easily on it. Even the old guard hardware manufacturers like IBM and Hewlett-Packard sell Intel-based product lines.
Now i can see that IBM sells its NetFinity servers but it is still pushing the AS/400 and RS/6000 series as the REAL servers! And I just dont see Intel based machines being able to take on the BIG tasks that a lot of heavy iron from IBM does. And I just dont see an Intel box working in the place of an Sun EU10K system (*droll*). Not just cause of the hardware, but also cause Linux is still not as developed as the other Unix's.......
"Cream rises to the top. You don't find the cream unless the milk is out there."
Penguin says :
I'm the cream of the crop... i rise to the top.
He likes the configuration ability of RH were as I have always like the command line way of configuring things
/var/lib/ /var/lib tree... someone please explain this to me!! isnt /usr/local/postgres a much better place to put things!!
Well I am not sure how he can claim to have more configuration ability in RH's more GUI way of doing things. Slackware rules with how easy it is to just make changes to the initialization scripts! I found that a pain in RedHat... Not to mention software upgrades!! I like things HOT of the presses, and most RH users just seem to not want to compile stuff. I mean it makes sense, either compile your own software or just wait for the RPM to come by.
I am not saying that RPMS are all bad, I dont like em at all, cause i am a control freak! and most ppl who are control freaks dont like having someone else tell them were stuff should go. AND man do RPMS do stupid things. For instance the PostgreSQL Rpm goes into
Freaking Binaries going under the
Anyway, back to the topic, i find Slackware much more configurable and feel that RH takes way too much of a GUI approach!!! Slackware ROCKS the house!!!