My girlfriend and I were having sex when I looked up to see a burning building and went "That must of sucked" then wait back to having sex. It wasn't until afterwards that I realized what happened. Fortuantly the media replayed the entire event over and over for a year or 2, so I didnt' miss anything. At least it makes a great "where were you" story to tell my children.
Which brings up an important question. How long do you support these browsers? I'm not trying to troll or anything. I try to support as many browsers as possible, but I tell my clients I can only confirm ie6, safari, mozilla, and opera in my standard quotes. Anything more will require more debuging time.
At what point would you say we should stop supporting browsers that have much newer versions at no cost. I personally think we should support technology for a max of 3 years. On my personal website I display a page that tells IE users that they are using a insecure browser and my site may not display properly and I provide links to opera and firefox. But that is my personal site, and I know commercial sites can not do this. I just find it interesting we talk about all this new technology, but we never talk about when is the right time to abandon old technology. We just say, well when its supported, or well when most people use X. But most people will never use X product without any reason to. In the computer world software lives forever, it has no natural shelf life. We have to plan its obsolescence (I have no clue if I spelled that right). So what time is the right time to abandon old technology? When should we stop supporting IE5. Does anyone still code for NCSA Mosaic?
I thought my girlfriend how to write simple webpages in xhtml 1.0 trans in about an hour. She mostly uses dreamweaver MX to do the layout, but makes any after the fact adjustments by hand. xhtml is not hard at all. CSS really isn't hard at all either.
Besides, a lot of people wrote broken, or nasty code back in the past with html 3 - 4. If you can't take the time to properly learn how to use the tools you are creating with, you shouldn't be creating in the first place.
"That's why we (in most of the US States) have madatory yearly inspections for all cars."
I wouldn't say most of the united states. But check this out. In Indiana not only do you not have inspections in most of the state, but you can renew your drivers license via internet. That means my 85 year old grandma who can hardly walk and has no reaction time or vision can renew her drivers license without any questions. I'm waiting for the day an old person hits me with a car, i'm going to sue this state. We need more laws restricting who is allowed to drive and what is allowed to be on the road.
Syntax highlighting text editor is all I want. I have visual studio and the only thing its good for imho is laying out gui's for application. For web scripting, just notepad is more then enough. Mind you my work is with me and 1 other developer. I could see the need for an IDE on larger projects.
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At least in my state, the law requires phone companys to keep 911 service even if phone service is turned off. So I can just plug in a phone to the wall jack and call 911. Now for those people who wire VoIP into their house..thats another issue.
My computer chair is a lazy boy. Best damn seat in the whole house. Maybe the "problem" with computer gaming is people dont treat their work enviorment seriously. Sitting on a folding chair with a computer on top of a dresser is not a good enviorment to work at.
I acutally heard on the radio today in Indiana that a recent study showed teen violence was down this year from last. And I think more violent videogames were released this year. I do not seen a connection between violence and videogames.
Exact figures are not as important as the overall amount of atttempted downloads. Any intelligent use of logs/javascript/php or whatever else you want to use will give you a good feel for the number of actual downloads. If I sell 300,000 copys of a game, and my website gets 210,000 hits for the linux binarys, this tells me that a good majority (possibly 90-130,000) people wanted the linux version. Why is this concept so freaking hard for you to figure out? How can they track actual box sales for windows when the mac and linux version are the same box? Let me answer that. They can't. Do you know why? Because they have no clue if you are going to use it on mac/linux/windows or even simply buying it to jack off on. So how is this any different then checking the number of downloads? Well guess what, it isn't. Now get a clue.
I used javascript as a simple tool to show how anything can be tracked. You may not have 100% numbers, but you can track at least the number of attempted downloads. You could use php,asp, or as someone even pointed out just plain old server logs. The point is it can be done well enough to decide if it is marketable. I'm done now.
This is even easier with BT than with Kazaa. BitTorrent, as mentioned above, has two central points of failure. Either could be taken down by legal means, just like napster.
You have no idea how bittorrent works do you?
2 points of failure per tracker. Anyone can run a tracker. You, me, etc. Thus from the RIAA, MPAA standpoint, they have thousands of people to shut down, just not a single source.
Dont forget the wow beta downloads are distributed via bittorrent. You download their own version of a bt client and away it goes. Nice fast 2 gig download.
// is this a line of code if( $A == $b){ print("is this a line of code") }
/* is this one line of code
or two */
if(!$A) { print("how many lines of code is this"); }
just a thought. I have used php for large projects, just nothing that I didn't control the install envoirment on, so I really cant comment on that. Although I bet my project had at least 20,000 lines of comments.
oh, you mean those guys who couldn't figure out a resolution to a link being sent via a aim message that had a virus in it. Instead of blocking that URL on the proxy, they instead choose to ban aim for a week. Or the same IT staff that responds to my solutions with "I have a MCSE, and I know you can't do that". Although never mind that I have real world exp. Or that prior to my programming position I ran office 4 times this size. The same IT department that can't keep exchange running for more then 7 hours without a reboot in the last 1 and 1/2 years.
Yea those guys know whats best.
Oh yea the same IT department that recomends we only use IE.
Why dont I work in IT? Because I get paid more, thats why.
How did Microsoft get Internet Explorer do this? It actually looks as if IE just stripped the 'shell:' from the link and treated it like a regular href. This is an interesting thought, still the important point here is that Microsoft didn't just take a program name and tell Windows to execute it. "
That should have this added onto the end:
Why didn't microsoft fix the problem instead of work around it in IE? Well, by not fixing the actual issue they could help make their own software look better then 3rd party vendors. Although this tactic backfired when some programs (MS word) forgot to use this workaround.
Developer - A version designed for developers, this version comes with many development tools such as text editors, compilers and libaries for developing software.
So are they saying the non developer edition doesn't come with a text editor??
That all seems short sighted. It also doesn't seem to take into account new car companys that may popup in the future. The fact is they are just prolonging the real solution, and at some point, they will have to do something. And the longer they wait, the more money it is going to cost. Old systems will loose source code and documentation, lack of qualified programmers for outdated languages etc.
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My girlfriend and I were having sex when I looked up to see a burning building and went "That must of sucked" then wait back to having sex. It wasn't until afterwards that I realized what happened. Fortuantly the media replayed the entire event over and over for a year or 2, so I didnt' miss anything. At least it makes a great "where were you" story to tell my children.
At what point would you say we should stop supporting browsers that have much newer versions at no cost. I personally think we should support technology for a max of 3 years. On my personal website I display a page that tells IE users that they are using a insecure browser and my site may not display properly and I provide links to opera and firefox. But that is my personal site, and I know commercial sites can not do this. I just find it interesting we talk about all this new technology, but we never talk about when is the right time to abandon old technology. We just say, well when its supported, or well when most people use X. But most people will never use X product without any reason to. In the computer world software lives forever, it has no natural shelf life. We have to plan its obsolescence (I have no clue if I spelled that right). So what time is the right time to abandon old technology? When should we stop supporting IE5. Does anyone still code for NCSA Mosaic?
Besides, a lot of people wrote broken, or nasty code back in the past with html 3 - 4. If you can't take the time to properly learn how to use the tools you are creating with, you shouldn't be creating in the first place.
"That's why we (in most of the US States) have madatory yearly inspections for all cars."
I wouldn't say most of the united states. But check this out. In Indiana not only do you not have inspections in most of the state, but you can renew your drivers license via internet. That means my 85 year old grandma who can hardly walk and has no reaction time or vision can renew her drivers license without any questions. I'm waiting for the day an old person hits me with a car, i'm going to sue this state. We need more laws restricting who is allowed to drive and what is allowed to be on the road.
umm..bullets dont kill people, chemical reactions do. If it wasn't for the chemical reaction, the bullet would never get up to speed.
Syntax highlighting text editor is all I want. I have visual studio and the only thing its good for imho is laying out gui's for application. For web scripting, just notepad is more then enough. Mind you my work is with me and 1 other developer. I could see the need for an IDE on larger projects.
At least in my state, the law requires phone companys to keep 911 service even if phone service is turned off. So I can just plug in a phone to the wall jack and call 911. Now for those people who wire VoIP into their house..thats another issue.
My computer chair is a lazy boy. Best damn seat in the whole house. Maybe the "problem" with computer gaming is people dont treat their work enviorment seriously. Sitting on a folding chair with a computer on top of a dresser is not a good enviorment to work at.
I acutally heard on the radio today in Indiana that a recent study showed teen violence was down this year from last. And I think more violent videogames were released this year. I do not seen a connection between violence and videogames.
I used javascript as a simple tool to show how anything can be tracked. You may not have 100% numbers, but you can track at least the number of attempted downloads. You could use php,asp, or as someone even pointed out just plain old server logs. The point is it can be done well enough to decide if it is marketable. I'm done now.
ok smartass. Go dig up a book on javascript. Read it, come back when you tell me how to write a counter.
But, as long as they dont mess with my legal downloads, or make any new laws that restrict my rights, they can sue those people as much as they like.
Yea, because nobody would be able to track the number of linux downloads to decide if it was worth it to release the next game with a linux version...
You have no idea how bittorrent works do you?
2 points of failure per tracker. Anyone can run a tracker. You, me, etc. Thus from the RIAA, MPAA standpoint, they have thousands of people to shut down, just not a single source.
Dont forget the wow beta downloads are distributed via bittorrent. You download their own version of a bt client and away it goes. Nice fast 2 gig download.
Didn't you see the movie minority report. The guy was a wanted criminal and he still had access with his removed eye.
Depends what you think a line of code is.
// is this a line of code
if( $A == $b){ print("is this a line of code") }
/* is this one line of code
or two */
if(!$A) {
print("how many lines of code is this");
}
just a thought. I have used php for large projects, just nothing that I didn't control the install envoirment on, so I really cant comment on that. Although I bet my project had at least 20,000 lines of comments.
Woah! you've found some new way to post on slashdot via mind meld! Teach Me!
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oh, you mean those guys who couldn't figure out a resolution to a link being sent via a aim message that had a virus in it. Instead of blocking that URL on the proxy, they instead choose to ban aim for a week. Or the same IT staff that responds to my solutions with "I have a MCSE, and I know you can't do that". Although never mind that I have real world exp. Or that prior to my programming position I ran office 4 times this size. The same IT department that can't keep exchange running for more then 7 hours without a reboot in the last 1 and 1/2 years.
Yea those guys know whats best.
Oh yea the same IT department that recomends we only use IE.
Why dont I work in IT? Because I get paid more, thats why.
That should have this added onto the end:
Why didn't microsoft fix the problem instead of work around it in IE? Well, by not fixing the actual issue they could help make their own software look better then 3rd party vendors. Although this tactic backfired when some programs (MS word) forgot to use this workaround.
You could always release the patch as an extention or a 3rd party build while you wait.
I describe morrowind to my friends as a Massive online game without any players. Thats what it felt like to me. Just like playing EQ alone.
So are they saying the non developer edition doesn't come with a text editor??
Its a sad day in this world when google is concidered the manual. And yes I'm too lazy to spellcheck.
That all seems short sighted. It also doesn't seem to take into account new car companys that may popup in the future. The fact is they are just prolonging the real solution, and at some point, they will have to do something. And the longer they wait, the more money it is going to cost. Old systems will loose source code and documentation, lack of qualified programmers for outdated languages etc.