From what I have heard ESR/RMS are considering requiring companies who derive revenue from GPL'd code (Amazon & Google for example) to provide a revenue stream back to the authors. This is a terrible idea... it sounds like a way of limiting the usage.
Oh my god do NOT tell me this is true!
This is worse than patents if this is true! 35% of the web server market would be paying Apache AND Linus AND GNU (RMS) because they use their software to serve pages.
RMS might be selling out now, if he really wants this, he's just another fatcat that wants money.
This and the other change mentioned by grandparent will probably leave me using GPL v2. There would probably be a devision in the Open Source community if the GPL v3 is this radical of a change.
Companies that use the code or even modifiy it and use it internally only need not give anything back.
That's one thing that is going to change with GPL v. 3.
To me, that sounds like a bad thing. What if I don't have the time (and|or) resources to give the code back? If I'm distributing the program to begin with, distributing the code is trivial, but what if I do so much as change one line of the code to fit my needs?
Maybe the way I have my computer set up I need to change something in Apache's code in order to compile it right, but (I am|my company is) the only entity that would require this change?
I need to see how it is written in the actual GPL 3 first, but to me this sounds like a bad idea.
The actor who posed as an Indian, and claimed to be of Cree/Cherokee descent, was in reality a Sicilian. And the tears were fake.
No, really?
Next you are going to be telling me Al Pacino isn't really Cuban, doesn't sniff 3 feet high mounds of cocaine, and can't stand up while shooting an assault rifle after being shot by 100 shotgun shells.
Why should he not have to produce the keys? With a court order there is no longer a right to privacy. The constitution protects you from illegal searches not from legal searches.
If the feds find a safe they cannot crack, do you have to supply a combination? I'm seriously asking, as I'm unsure.
I thought that this sort of thing would fall under the "right to remain silent". You have the RIGHT to not incrimination yourself in a crime. Does encryption/safe combinations fall under this, or does it?
The problem with forcing this guy to do reveal this information is that now they can force ANYONE by precedent to reveal encryption keys. I don't like pedophiles either, but I also don't want random people rummaging through my personal affairs.
For the expiring passwords, you can use something like:
bah bah black sheep have you any wool-slashdot-20050524
And know that you only change it on even days (say it's the 27th, you would use the 26th's date there), or only use the month for 30 day passwords, whatever.
GREAT idea though, and I think I'm going to use it!
I'd suppose that if basic speakers/microphones were unavailable then a soldering iron and the pick of audio interconnects at Radio Shack are probably out (unless he's McGuyver or something;)
For what he said, all you need is a pair of wire cutters, electrical tape, and the headphones. The second audio jack to separate the input from output could be obtained by just buying another set. 2 pairs of those headphones is about $2, and the wirecutters and electrical tape should be cheap, if he doesn't have them already.
This is one of the things I love about Valve's Steam, as much as I hate some of the licencing terms: If you should ever completely lose everything you ever had related to the software, you can still buy a new box, enter your username/password, and download everything or borrow a "backup" from a friend.
Uhh... if you lose everything related to Valve's software, all you have to do is download steam, enter your password, download the software, and play.
You don't have to borrow or buy anything in order to get the game back. You can even burn the data on a backup disk in case you have to format.
I write websites so I can present ideas to people. I don't want them to see my site the way they want to see it. I want them to see it the way it was meant to be seen.
That's a pretty weird look on thngs. I've been using RIP for awhile now. I don't even view Slashdot the way it was "meant to be". I want the content of your page, not the stupid side bars and stuff.
There is so much crap on the sides of the screen that you have about 2-3 inches to actually read the article. It's almost like people are trying to get away with BSing their way through articles, making such a short summary of the news event but making it look like 5+ pages.
you are also probably one of those crazy ex-pat types who love the advantages of this country (uh seriously, we have amazon,netflix,tivo, and a ton actual non internet related things which are supersweet), but want to move out so hard
All I said was the music is bad here, and you assume all of this? Wow.
I do want to move, good guess. But only to California. I dislike the whole president deal, the (MP|RI)AA, big corporation stuff, etc, but that's not going to get me to move out of the country.
half of those popular european acts are just emulating major american singers who are just emulating them who are emulating their idols from years gone by!
Another assumption. Wow, good job man. None of the European music I listen to even have words. There is no way for them to be emulating American singing if they don't sing at all.
Most, if not all, of the people I know that listen to American music listen to "Top 100" stations. I don't think people in America ACTUALLY LIKE the music they listen to, they listen to it because they are told it's popular music by radio stations.
I'm not saying that about everyone, I'm sure there are people that like that sort of music, and that's fine, but don't listen to the top of the charts music stations and make it your only source of music for your entire life.
Every single post of his is an advertisement for that site. Guess what site I'm never going to?
I guess his advertisements are going to have the inverse effect than the one he wanted. I guess that's what you get when you post on a site that advertises the fact that it's for intelligent people.
Let's hope and pray the Marketing Dept. doesn't turn all that into a buzzword.
"Pro-actively enabling the supersymmetry between bosons and fermions..."
They'd change the words "bosons" to "bosoms", "fermions" to "females", and "superstrings" to "g-strings", then have a bunch of naked chicks dance around the screen with g-strings for the rest of the 30 seconds.
I was informed by the sales rep that HP's contractual terms with MS required that no hardware could be sold without an operating system.
That is outrageous!
Say I'm Logitech. I make a deal with Energizer to package Energizer batteries with my wireless mice. However, I have to sign a contract saying that I can't sell ANY wireless mice without batteries.
What? Why? This doesn't make any sense, does it?
What does it matter to Microsoft what HP does with their business?
I think I should create a brand new, never before thought of technology that would become so popular it would be necessary for Windows to have it included. When I make my license with Microsoft, I'll have in it that they can't ever produce any operating system without, well, whatever it ends up being, and then when competition comes around, I'll show my big shiny patent in their faces and kick them out of the market.
Why do people try to create solutions for problems that don't exist?
Some people like PHP, some people like JSP, let's just leave it at that. For the people that like both, USING both would not only be confusing but extremely resource intensive.
If you live close enough to a large Canadian city across the border, you might be able to pick up the local CBC TV broadcast (i.e. antenna reception). It airs Tuesdays at 8.
Nope, unfortunately, I live about 8 hours away from the border.
Sadly, btefnet is on the list. Where will I get The Daily Show and Dr. Who if they go down?
EXACTLY!! I live in the US, I mean how the hell am I supposed to watch Dr. Who? Wait 5 or 6 years for the DVD box set to come out here? I'll lose interest by then!
This was the last straw. As soon as all the shows I'm watching are over for this season, I'm done. No movies, no DVD purchases, no more TV. Not even downloads. I'm no longer a part of this society.
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Basicly, it twists the market making you choose one specific business model simply to circumvent the GPL, and it works.
There is nothing wrong with charging for ASP services. What you are paying for and charging is essentially just bandwidth and CPU cycles.
I guess an extension to the GPL to cover ASPs giving back code would be nice, but them charging for using the service is not a bad thing.
From what I have heard ESR/RMS are considering requiring companies who derive revenue from GPL'd code (Amazon & Google for example) to provide a revenue stream back to the authors. This is a terrible idea... it sounds like a way of limiting the usage.
Oh my god do NOT tell me this is true!
This is worse than patents if this is true! 35% of the web server market would be paying Apache AND Linus AND GNU (RMS) because they use their software to serve pages.
RMS might be selling out now, if he really wants this, he's just another fatcat that wants money.
This and the other change mentioned by grandparent will probably leave me using GPL v2. There would probably be a devision in the Open Source community if the GPL v3 is this radical of a change.
Companies that use the code or even modifiy it and use it internally only need not give anything back.
That's one thing that is going to change with GPL v. 3.
To me, that sounds like a bad thing. What if I don't have the time (and|or) resources to give the code back? If I'm distributing the program to begin with, distributing the code is trivial, but what if I do so much as change one line of the code to fit my needs?
Maybe the way I have my computer set up I need to change something in Apache's code in order to compile it right, but (I am|my company is) the only entity that would require this change?
I need to see how it is written in the actual GPL 3 first, but to me this sounds like a bad idea.
Do they deserve to sit on it and squeeze everyone else for 20 fucking years for it?
;)
No, and even a lawyer would admit that they don't deserve to sit on it for 20 years.
They would argue 17 years, like the law says.
But really, I agree with you. Patents are bullshit.
The actor who posed as an Indian, and claimed to be of Cree/Cherokee descent, was in reality a Sicilian. And the tears were fake.
No, really?
Next you are going to be telling me Al Pacino isn't really Cuban, doesn't sniff 3 feet high mounds of cocaine, and can't stand up while shooting an assault rifle after being shot by 100 shotgun shells.
I don't think the car analogy works. The car would be in your driveway, while the laptop would be in a public place.
A parking garage is a public place.
Why should he not have to produce the keys? With a court order there is no longer a right to privacy. The constitution protects you from illegal searches not from legal searches.
If the feds find a safe they cannot crack, do you have to supply a combination? I'm seriously asking, as I'm unsure.
I thought that this sort of thing would fall under the "right to remain silent". You have the RIGHT to not incrimination yourself in a crime. Does encryption/safe combinations fall under this, or does it?
The problem with forcing this guy to do reveal this information is that now they can force ANYONE by precedent to reveal encryption keys. I don't like pedophiles either, but I also don't want random people rummaging through my personal affairs.
For the expiring passwords, you can use something like:
bah bah black sheep have you any wool-slashdot-20050524
And know that you only change it on even days (say it's the 27th, you would use the 26th's date there), or only use the month for 30 day passwords, whatever.
GREAT idea though, and I think I'm going to use it!
I'd suppose that if basic speakers/microphones were unavailable then a soldering iron and the pick of audio interconnects at Radio Shack are probably out (unless he's McGuyver or something ;)
For what he said, all you need is a pair of wire cutters, electrical tape, and the headphones. The second audio jack to separate the input from output could be obtained by just buying another set. 2 pairs of those headphones is about $2, and the wirecutters and electrical tape should be cheap, if he doesn't have them already.
A soldering iron wouldn't be used for this...
I'm sure you're paid pretty well, but don't you think there's a better place for your talents?
Score:-1, Missed the Point
This is one of the things I love about Valve's Steam, as much as I hate some of the licencing terms: If you should ever completely lose everything you ever had related to the software, you can still buy a new box, enter your username/password, and download everything or borrow a "backup" from a friend.
Uhh... if you lose everything related to Valve's software, all you have to do is download steam, enter your password, download the software, and play.
You don't have to borrow or buy anything in order to get the game back. You can even burn the data on a backup disk in case you have to format.
The best way to not lose keys is to not rely on them at all.
:)
Find an open source replacement for it, and everyone will be happy
What the hell kind of bank do you know of that gives credit cards to minors? You can't even get a checking account until you're an adult.
Prepaid credit cards are sold to people over 16, I believe. Same with checking accounts.
The legal age in this country is 18, so yes, they are minors.
I write websites so I can present ideas to people. I don't want them to see my site the way they want to see it. I want them to see it the way it was meant to be seen.
e ek.quran/index.html
That's a pretty weird look on thngs. I've been using RIP for awhile now. I don't even view Slashdot the way it was "meant to be". I want the content of your page, not the stupid side bars and stuff.
A good example is CNN.com: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/05/16/newsw
There is so much crap on the sides of the screen that you have about 2-3 inches to actually read the article. It's almost like people are trying to get away with BSing their way through articles, making such a short summary of the news event but making it look like 5+ pages.
you are also probably one of those crazy ex-pat types who love the advantages of this country (uh seriously, we have amazon,netflix,tivo, and a ton actual non internet related things which are supersweet), but want to move out so hard
All I said was the music is bad here, and you assume all of this? Wow.
I do want to move, good guess. But only to California. I dislike the whole president deal, the (MP|RI)AA, big corporation stuff, etc, but that's not going to get me to move out of the country.
half of those popular european acts are just emulating major american singers who are just emulating them who are emulating their idols from years gone by!
Another assumption. Wow, good job man. None of the European music I listen to even have words. There is no way for them to be emulating American singing if they don't sing at all.
Most, if not all, of the people I know that listen to American music listen to "Top 100" stations. I don't think people in America ACTUALLY LIKE the music they listen to, they listen to it because they are told it's popular music by radio stations.
I'm not saying that about everyone, I'm sure there are people that like that sort of music, and that's fine, but don't listen to the top of the charts music stations and make it your only source of music for your entire life.
Look at his user page: morlock_man
Every single post of his is an advertisement for that site. Guess what site I'm never going to?
I guess his advertisements are going to have the inverse effect than the one he wanted. I guess that's what you get when you post on a site that advertises the fact that it's for intelligent people.
Areas outside the US... Who knows. They listen to really weird shit music anyway.
What and Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Nelly, 50 cent, etc are good music?
I'm an American, and I happen to think the best music comes from Europe. The worst from US.
Let's hope and pray the Marketing Dept. doesn't turn all that into a buzzword.
"Pro-actively enabling the supersymmetry between bosons and fermions..."
They'd change the words "bosons" to "bosoms", "fermions" to "females", and "superstrings" to "g-strings", then have a bunch of naked chicks dance around the screen with g-strings for the rest of the 30 seconds.
I was informed by the sales rep that HP's contractual terms with MS required that no hardware could be sold without an operating system.
That is outrageous!
Say I'm Logitech. I make a deal with Energizer to package Energizer batteries with my wireless mice. However, I have to sign a contract saying that I can't sell ANY wireless mice without batteries.
What? Why? This doesn't make any sense, does it?
What does it matter to Microsoft what HP does with their business?
I think I should create a brand new, never before thought of technology that would become so popular it would be necessary for Windows to have it included. When I make my license with Microsoft, I'll have in it that they can't ever produce any operating system without, well, whatever it ends up being, and then when competition comes around, I'll show my big shiny patent in their faces and kick them out of the market.
God bless America.
does this mean my choice of M&M's does NOT determine my fate?
You take the blue one, and the story ends...
When I was younger, Darth Vader was a great "bad guy" who commanded respect from everyone. He never came across as undignified.
Now he is reduced to a shill for Pepsi, as a character that people laugh at. How sad is that?
You do realize that this new movie is a PREQUEL right?
In the beginning, Darth Vader was just a scam, he wasn't the big bad ass empire running fiend that he is in episodes 4-6.
other students with AOL usually are forced to use it because it's what their parents use, but adults have free will to choose a better ISP
Believe it or not, ISPs aren't the only way to get an email address. Fancy that.
Why do people try to create solutions for problems that don't exist?
Some people like PHP, some people like JSP, let's just leave it at that. For the people that like both, USING both would not only be confusing but extremely resource intensive.
If you live close enough to a large Canadian city across the border, you might be able to pick up the local CBC TV broadcast (i.e. antenna reception). It airs Tuesdays at 8.
Nope, unfortunately, I live about 8 hours away from the border.
It's such an awesome show though...
Sadly, btefnet is on the list. Where will I get The Daily Show and Dr. Who if they go down?
EXACTLY!! I live in the US, I mean how the hell am I supposed to watch Dr. Who? Wait 5 or 6 years for the DVD box set to come out here? I'll lose interest by then!
This was the last straw. As soon as all the shows I'm watching are over for this season, I'm done. No movies, no DVD purchases, no more TV. Not even downloads. I'm no longer a part of this society.