So now we can pay for them to track our activities and send us advertisement. Reminds me of how initially having a logo on an article of clothing seamed insane... now we are walking billboards.
Reminds me of the age old problem, who do you focus on the drug users or the drug distributors. Its a lot easier to findd the users but the end result is not much. You get the distributors and you do a lot more damage. Now you have to decide who is the users and who is the distributors....
If this contact thingy works out, think about the fun you could have with it. The ultimate in interactive experience since you only see what it lets you. You could have a personal movie theater with incredible resolution at yours hands... i mean eyes.
I would have kept it and sold it back at a price. Microsoft apparently is being rather childish in how they are responding to this by saying nothing, and for a while not even responding to the guy who bought it back for them.
people need to get the news out. While the washington post is a news worthy organization... how many people really know about this. Send the article around to friends, family, to just random people you know on your address book.
and especially write to your senators and people in washington. If they argue that they represent the people and they get enough voices saying this is absurd. then things will happen.
We can just complain about what happens or we can spread the word. even the smallest amount of votes make a difference
Thats my 2 cents worth... now i got to go return my soap box
Here is info about FDA clincical drug testing policy.
Phase 1 = This is the initial test in humans for safety. This phase is to rule out inherently dangerous drugs that were not caught in the animal tests. Since we are different species this is absolutely necessary. Of course, some medications were ruled out in the animal phase which might have worked very well in humans. Common aspirin fits this picture. Aspirin causes abortions of mice and rat fetuses. Under todays rules aspirin could never reach the human testing stage.
Phase 2 = This is the efficacy trial. To make sure it does what the drug company claims. This and Phase 1 are usually small numbers of people.
Phase 3 = This is the large test and currently obesity control medicines are required to turn in 2 years of data. All other medications are required to turn in a one year study. This tests how the drug will act in long term usage. Earlier tests usually were for only one to three months in duration.
What is the best way to use the medication? This is the last Phase before FDA marketing approval. After this phase the studies conducted by the companies and others are given to a subcommittee of experts to review. If the subcommittee reviews and approves the medication it is passed to the FDA for final approval. Usually the full FDA committee follows the panel of experts advice.
CLINICAL TESTING IN HUMANS Number of Patients in each study
Length of study
Purpose of study
Percent of Drugs Successfully Tested
Phase 1
20-100 Several months Mainly safety 70 percent
Phase 2
Up to several hundred Several months to 2 years Some short-term safety, but mainly effectiveness 33 percent
Phase 3
Several hundred to several thousand 1-4 years Safety, effectiveness, dosage 25-30 percent
Marketing = After final approval by the FDA the medication is manufactured and distributed to pharmacies and physicians. It is then available for you to use. One pharmacist said the process takes about 6 weeks after final approval. Another source said it can take up to two years.
Phase 4 = Any after-market studies recommended by the FDA or performed by the companies. This is where we go from having a few thousand people take the medicine to having millions of people taking it. And this is where any very rare side-effects may show up.
The simpsons should really start trying to patent all their random hairball ideas. I mean who wouldnt be taken for the add that says as seen on the Simpsons.
Agreed, the last thing anyone should want is a bunch of MIT students upset with you. I mean why dont you think they dont crack down on the drinking problem there. It keeps the students happy. Besides when the RIAA shut down Napster how many alternatives sprung up to replace it. Music sharing is the new generation. With the demise of one system, will only spawn new ones. The key is the RIAA needs to embrace technology or they will be washed away from the wave of change.
And of course you know that none of the money from the lawsuits actually go to the musicians, it goes into their pockets. So all those ad we saw back (yes i know they were for the MPAA) of people who get hurt by piracy... are still hurting. None of the money from the lawsuits goes to them.
but is this really an appropriate signature. Regardless of the intent, such information, thoughts, or jokes could be misinterpreted. And if they have an issue with other people reading their memos, obviously they have an issue with being accountable for their actions, which is very dangerous... next thing you know they will be shredding documents.
having driven an ambulance often... People often just ignore the lights and sirens, thinking that everyone else might move. I can remember one night specifically, where no one like the entire time yeilded when we were going out, and on the return trip back everyone was yielding.
Sometimes I just dont know how some people even got their licences.
This is just going to set a standard. The military for the longest time has set standards that are eventually adopted into the civilian sector. I mean hell you can see their effects in everything, flight, navigational, medicine, batteries, so guess what by like who knows 2010 RFID will be in everything (not that it took the military to do this) but it will just reinforce this drive.
Aust ISP in 'world first' music industry court case
By James Pearce, ZDNet Australia
21 October 2003
In what is believed to be the first case of its kind in the world, the Australian music industry has listed an Internet service provider (ISP) as a respondent in a court case involving alleged music piracy.
E-Talk Communications, trading as Comcen Internet Services found itself in Federal Court in front of Justice Brian Tamberlin in Sydney this afternoon charged with making money from the provision of copyright-infringing music files. This is the first time the music industry has accused an ISP of being directly involved in piracy by allowing its infrastructure to be used for file-trading activities, according to Michael Speck, the manager of Music Industry Piracy Investigations (MIPI), who led the industry's investigation.
However, lawyers representing E-Talk Communications claimed in court today that the music industry, in acting against its subsidiary, Comcen, were pursuing the wrong entity. They argued the industry should be pursuing another entity associated with E-Talk Communications. In response, lawyers for the music industry applicants -- which include Universal Music Australia, EMI Music Australia, Sony Music Entertainment (Australia), Warner Music Australia, BMG Australia and Festival Records -- claimed they had the right entity, and would simply add the other entity to the proceedings.
The tactic marks an escalation in the simmering battle between the music industry and the ISPs over how much responsibility the latter should take for any copyright infringing behaviour of their subscribers. Around the world the music industry is attempting to force ISPs to hand over the details of specific customers, and the Australian Record Industry Association (ARIA) pulled out of negotiations with the Internet Industry Association (IIA) over differences on this issue.
"This case proves what the music industry has been saying about the Internet industry for many years, that music piracy is an integral part of the ISP business model," Speck told ZDNet Australia . He added that the evidence uncovered in this case proves that ISPs know how much illegal file sharing is happening on their networks, and they embrace it for the revenue.
"If things don't change we'll be going after more ISPs," said Speck.
The charge is the result of an 11-month investigation into the Web site http://www.mp3s4free.net, culminating in raids over Friday and Saturday last week. The registrant of the domain name, Australian Stephen Cooper, was also charged but failed to appear in court today, prompting an adjournment of proceedings until Tuesday 28 October.
"In my experience investigating the revenue structure of Web sites such as [mp3s4free.net] the ISP hosting the Web site, [Com-cen], stands to benefit economically from the increased consumption of bandwidth that would result from an increase in the flow of traffic to the Web site and an increase in the number of sound recordings downloaded by visitors to the Web site due to the large size of music files," Speck's affadavit.
"The Web site appears to me to be highly organised," said Speck. "It provides a whole user interface to encourage Internet users to find digital music files and to assist them in the download process."
Lawyers for the music industry claim the Web site received 7 million unique visitors from around the world over the past 12 months.
"In my experience investigating Internet piracy and other piracy, this Web site is one of the largest sites of its kind, providing thousands of infringing recordings and continuously providing very recent releases based on top local and international charts for free download, under a highly accessible domain name and using obvious metatags," read the affidavit.
Speck also noted the Web site had disguised some music files by relabelling them as jpg files, "so as to avoid detection by persons or organisations, such as MI
well the only problem i have with this is that public safety (Fire, Police, EMS, and all those other agencies) have been running into a communication crunch over teh last many years. And there aint no new frequencies being opened up to them.
The problem is the article doesnt even address the issue of why pills are so common and popular route of administration. Administering a pill is the most cheap and easy way a person can get a medication.
Planting a chip into a patient has many complications associated with it. It will require some form of invasive procedure. So then what is the difference from this and lets say one of the other slow releasing medication techniques such as a patch or an injection. While the injections may be absorbed quicker, the current patch technique is pretty effective. Now it claims it will be effective for people that have trouble with keeping track of their meds. Now if a person is that much at risk of not being able to take their medication, there is a problem. And the problem is the health care system messed up (not the patient). When medications are prescribed the patient is assessed on how complient/likely they are to take the medications. If they cant take oral meds, then another route is then assessed.
Now dont get me wrong I think this idea has some potential, especially if you make it interactive, such as being implanted into a high risk heart patient and it releases medication when the patient has a heart attack.
I can see it now. A DOS attack initiated by slashdot. The website then becomes closely monitored by the FBI, and the good old president declares the site part of the axis of evil.
i bet you dont have anything in your home that is in someway violating a copyright law. now that wasnt in any way ment to debunk your statement. Yes it is breaking the law... the USA laws... but one other consideration you must think about, many countries dont have such laws.
Isnt it legal in canada for me to make a copy of your music (but not me to make a copy for you)?
So how about we start looking at this in a global perspective instead of a egocentric view point that the USA is the only spot where this could be problematic.
well going after people that threaten their lucrative business, will basically ensure that they never buy a cd again (doesnt that hurt them in the end).
but you touched upon the bigger and more important point what if they target you in error. They did it once, and the fact that from the article doesnt mention that they provide any specific evidence about their illicit activities, the RIAA is bullying them into a settlement. I mean how many people dont have something on their computer or even in their home that doesnt violate a copyright law.
So what if you settle because you think one thing and they were going after you for something else?
Slashdot Mirror
So now we can pay for them to track our activities and send us advertisement. Reminds me of how initially having a logo on an article of clothing seamed insane... now we are walking billboards.
Reminds me of the age old problem, who do you focus on the drug users or the drug distributors. Its a lot easier to findd the users but the end result is not much. You get the distributors and you do a lot more damage. Now you have to decide who is the users and who is the distributors....
If this contact thingy works out, think about the fun you could have with it. The ultimate in interactive experience since you only see what it lets you. You could have a personal movie theater with incredible resolution at yours hands... i mean eyes.
I would have kept it and sold it back at a price. Microsoft apparently is being rather childish in how they are responding to this by saying nothing, and for a while not even responding to the guy who bought it back for them.
people need to get the news out. While the washington post is a news worthy organization... how many people really know about this. Send the article around to friends, family, to just random people you know on your address book.
and especially write to your senators and people in washington. If they argue that they represent the people and they get enough voices saying this is absurd. then things will happen.
We can just complain about what happens or we can spread the word. even the smallest amount of votes make a difference
Thats my 2 cents worth... now i got to go return my soap box
Here is info about FDA clincical drug testing policy. Phase 1 = This is the initial test in humans for safety. This phase is to rule out inherently dangerous drugs that were not caught in the animal tests. Since we are different species this is absolutely necessary. Of course, some medications were ruled out in the animal phase which might have worked very well in humans. Common aspirin fits this picture. Aspirin causes abortions of mice and rat fetuses. Under todays rules aspirin could never reach the human testing stage. Phase 2 = This is the efficacy trial. To make sure it does what the drug company claims. This and Phase 1 are usually small numbers of people. Phase 3 = This is the large test and currently obesity control medicines are required to turn in 2 years of data. All other medications are required to turn in a one year study. This tests how the drug will act in long term usage. Earlier tests usually were for only one to three months in duration. What is the best way to use the medication? This is the last Phase before FDA marketing approval. After this phase the studies conducted by the companies and others are given to a subcommittee of experts to review. If the subcommittee reviews and approves the medication it is passed to the FDA for final approval. Usually the full FDA committee follows the panel of experts advice. CLINICAL TESTING IN HUMANS Number of Patients in each study Length of study Purpose of study Percent of Drugs Successfully Tested Phase 1 20-100 Several months Mainly safety 70 percent Phase 2 Up to several hundred Several months to 2 years Some short-term safety, but mainly effectiveness 33 percent Phase 3 Several hundred to several thousand 1-4 years Safety, effectiveness, dosage 25-30 percent Marketing = After final approval by the FDA the medication is manufactured and distributed to pharmacies and physicians. It is then available for you to use. One pharmacist said the process takes about 6 weeks after final approval. Another source said it can take up to two years. Phase 4 = Any after-market studies recommended by the FDA or performed by the companies. This is where we go from having a few thousand people take the medicine to having millions of people taking it. And this is where any very rare side-effects may show up.
The simpsons should really start trying to patent all their random hairball ideas. I mean who wouldnt be taken for the add that says as seen on the Simpsons.
Agreed, the last thing anyone should want is a bunch of MIT students upset with you. I mean why dont you think they dont crack down on the drinking problem there. It keeps the students happy. Besides when the RIAA shut down Napster how many alternatives sprung up to replace it. Music sharing is the new generation. With the demise of one system, will only spawn new ones. The key is the RIAA needs to embrace technology or they will be washed away from the wave of change.
Well it reminds me of the simpsons episode when homer starts and ISP and microsoft just buys them out.
And of course you know that none of the money from the lawsuits actually go to the musicians, it goes into their pockets. So all those ad we saw back (yes i know they were for the MPAA) of people who get hurt by piracy... are still hurting. None of the money from the lawsuits goes to them.
Has the scientist given any explanation about this yet. I remember reading that this was unusual activity for the normal cycles.
Otherwise, join me in a verse of the REM song
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
There was an earlier thread about this with a link to a Boston Globe Article
but is this really an appropriate signature. Regardless of the intent, such information, thoughts, or jokes could be misinterpreted. And if they have an issue with other people reading their memos, obviously they have an issue with being accountable for their actions, which is very dangerous... next thing you know they will be shredding documents.
This is an important project to explore the last unknown region of the Earth: the ocean.
But isnt the last fronteir the mind?
having driven an ambulance often... People often just ignore the lights and sirens, thinking that everyone else might move.
I can remember one night specifically, where no one like the entire time yeilded when we were going out, and on the return trip back everyone was yielding.
Sometimes I just dont know how some people even got their licences.
You could have the RF activate once the mine is activated, and use that as a Friendly Fire protection device.
Mine is activated
Radar activated
Detects presence of authorized RFID
Mine Disarms
This is just going to set a standard. The military for the longest time has set standards that are eventually adopted into the civilian sector.
I mean hell you can see their effects in everything, flight, navigational, medicine, batteries, so guess what by like who knows 2010 RFID will be in everything (not that it took the military to do this) but it will just reinforce this drive.
Aust ISP in 'world first' music industry court case
By James Pearce, ZDNet Australia 21 October 2003
In what is believed to be the first case of its kind in the world, the Australian music industry has listed an Internet service provider (ISP) as a respondent in a court case involving alleged music piracy.
E-Talk Communications, trading as Comcen Internet Services found itself in Federal Court in front of Justice Brian Tamberlin in Sydney this afternoon charged with making money from the provision of copyright-infringing music files. This is the first time the music industry has accused an ISP of being directly involved in piracy by allowing its infrastructure to be used for file-trading activities, according to Michael Speck, the manager of Music Industry Piracy Investigations (MIPI), who led the industry's investigation.
However, lawyers representing E-Talk Communications claimed in court today that the music industry, in acting against its subsidiary, Comcen, were pursuing the wrong entity. They argued the industry should be pursuing another entity associated with E-Talk Communications. In response, lawyers for the music industry applicants -- which include Universal Music Australia, EMI Music Australia, Sony Music Entertainment (Australia), Warner Music Australia, BMG Australia and Festival Records -- claimed they had the right entity, and would simply add the other entity to the proceedings.
The tactic marks an escalation in the simmering battle between the music industry and the ISPs over how much responsibility the latter should take for any copyright infringing behaviour of their subscribers. Around the world the music industry is attempting to force ISPs to hand over the details of specific customers, and the Australian Record Industry Association (ARIA) pulled out of negotiations with the Internet Industry Association (IIA) over differences on this issue.
"This case proves what the music industry has been saying about the Internet industry for many years, that music piracy is an integral part of the ISP business model," Speck told ZDNet Australia . He added that the evidence uncovered in this case proves that ISPs know how much illegal file sharing is happening on their networks, and they embrace it for the revenue.
"If things don't change we'll be going after more ISPs," said Speck.
The charge is the result of an 11-month investigation into the Web site http://www.mp3s4free.net, culminating in raids over Friday and Saturday last week. The registrant of the domain name, Australian Stephen Cooper, was also charged but failed to appear in court today, prompting an adjournment of proceedings until Tuesday 28 October.
"In my experience investigating the revenue structure of Web sites such as [mp3s4free.net] the ISP hosting the Web site, [Com-cen], stands to benefit economically from the increased consumption of bandwidth that would result from an increase in the flow of traffic to the Web site and an increase in the number of sound recordings downloaded by visitors to the Web site due to the large size of music files," Speck's affadavit.
"The Web site appears to me to be highly organised," said Speck. "It provides a whole user interface to encourage Internet users to find digital music files and to assist them in the download process."
Lawyers for the music industry claim the Web site received 7 million unique visitors from around the world over the past 12 months.
"In my experience investigating Internet piracy and other piracy, this Web site is one of the largest sites of its kind, providing thousands of infringing recordings and continuously providing very recent releases based on top local and international charts for free download, under a highly accessible domain name and using obvious metatags," read the affidavit.
Speck also noted the Web site had disguised some music files by relabelling them as jpg files, "so as to avoid detection by persons or organisations, such as MI
do you really trust people to make computer programs to count ballots, when people cant do it by hand.
it reminds me of the days back in high school, we werent allowed to use calculators till we proved that we could do it ourselves.
and maybewith the help from herbal breast enlargement pills, and penis enlargers. He be set with all them.
well the only problem i have with this is that public safety (Fire, Police, EMS, and all those other agencies) have been running into a communication crunch over teh last many years. And there aint no new frequencies being opened up to them.
The problem is the article doesnt even address the issue of why pills are so common and popular route of administration. Administering a pill is the most cheap and easy way a person can get a medication.
Planting a chip into a patient has many complications associated with it. It will require some form of invasive procedure. So then what is the difference from this and lets say one of the other slow releasing medication techniques such as a patch or an injection. While the injections may be absorbed quicker, the current patch technique is pretty effective. Now it claims it will be effective for people that have trouble with keeping track of their meds. Now if a person is that much at risk of not being able to take their medication, there is a problem. And the problem is the health care system messed up (not the patient). When medications are prescribed the patient is assessed on how complient/likely they are to take the medications. If they cant take oral meds, then another route is then assessed.
Now dont get me wrong I think this idea has some potential, especially if you make it interactive, such as being implanted into a high risk heart patient and it releases medication when the patient has a heart attack.
I can see it now. A DOS attack initiated by slashdot. The website then becomes closely monitored by the FBI, and the good old president declares the site part of the axis of evil.
i bet you dont have anything in your home that is in someway violating a copyright law. now that wasnt in any way ment to debunk your statement. Yes it is breaking the law... the USA laws... but one other consideration you must think about, many countries dont have such laws.
Isnt it legal in canada for me to make a copy of your music (but not me to make a copy for you)?
So how about we start looking at this in a global perspective instead of a egocentric view point that the USA is the only spot where this could be problematic.
well going after people that threaten their lucrative business, will basically ensure that they never buy a cd again (doesnt that hurt them in the end).
but you touched upon the bigger and more important point what if they target you in error. They did it once, and the fact that from the article doesnt mention that they provide any specific evidence about their illicit activities, the RIAA is bullying them into a settlement. I mean how many people dont have something on their computer or even in their home that doesnt violate a copyright law.
So what if you settle because you think one thing and they were going after you for something else?