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Yet Another Big Solar Flare

philthedrill writes "CNN is reporting that the sun has fired another large solar flare towards Earth. This one could arrive as early as Thursday (Oct. 30th) afternoon. (insert end-of-the-world statement here)."

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  1. *Yawn* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who Cares. I mean after awhile this becomes so boring. Jesus can't we pick on SCO today.

    1. Re:*Yawn* by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      well is it possible the solar flare and increased hotspot activity is to blame for global warming? lest wait and see. errr.. blame it on something else. maybe

  2. Insert end-of-the-world statement here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

    1. Re:Insert end-of-the-world statement here. by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 2, Funny

      I know. Personally I've got 50 years--60 tops--left and then it's all over.

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    2. Re:Insert end-of-the-world statement here. by joe83 · · Score: 1

      duuuhhh will my x box still work despite these frquent solar far$s?

    3. Re:Insert end-of-the-world statement here. by jonfromspace · · Score: 1

      {Obligatory Anti-Microsoft Statement}

      Probably Not.

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    4. Re:Insert end-of-the-world statement here. by Tukla · · Score: 1

      :: checks list ::

      Urm, make that "days" and you'd be closer.

      Signed, the Death of Slashdot Posters.

  3. It's those damn aliens by Phoenix-kun · · Score: 4, Funny

    pumping our sun to supernova so they can power their lightsails to the next star system.

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    1. Re:It's those damn aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get the feeling that they're using console controllers and autotargeting rather than mouse and keyboard, though. These things aren't particularly well aimed.

      It all makes sense if you look at the bridge of the Starship Enterprise. Do you see a mouse anywhere near the helm? No. The helm's just a great big oversized box with too many buttons. Spaceships are controlled via an advanced version of the X-Box game pad.

    2. Re:It's those damn aliens by aliens · · Score: 5, Funny

      Stop blaming your pollution woes on us!

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    3. Re:It's those damn aliens by OglinTatas · · Score: 1

      What you may be referring to is Asimov's "The Gods Themselves" Photosynthetic aliens in a parallel universe live near a dying sun, they bestow a gift upon Earth--the "electron pump"-- which promises free energy, and thus an end to our energy crises forever. But the catch is that the electron pump makes our sun unstable, and continued use of it will make our sun go nova. The aliens hope to use the energy from our nova as their free energy source. "The Gods Themselves" is actually a short story written on a bet that stretched out into a trilogy, or so I've heard.

    4. Re:It's those damn aliens by sholden · · Score: 1

      It's those machines on Titan, I tell you, those pesky Others, still causing problems millenia later.

    5. Re:It's those damn aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      an advanced version of the X-Box game pad.

      Oh, you mean a Gamecube controller?

    6. Re:It's those damn aliens by ZerroDefex · · Score: 1

      I thought it was a reference to Stephen Baxter's Manifold:Space in which there is a race of aliens refered to as the 'Sun Crackers' that actually do cause stars to go nova in order to power their lightsail ships.

    7. Re:It's those damn aliens by sahonen · · Score: 1

      Asmiov expanded it into a book in three parts, the parts entitled "Against Stupidity..." "...The Gods Themselves..." "...Contend in Vain?" Asimov also makes a reference to it in his short story "Gold," in which a writer pays a filmmaker to make a book of his into a movie, the story bearing an unusual resemblance to the middle third of "The Gods Themselves."

      I just finished reading it for the second time, and that's what I immediately thought of when I read the grandparent post.

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    8. Re:It's those damn aliens by tornado2258 · · Score: 1

      Yeah that's the one I got. Thought I was going crazy when everyone else was saying the reference came from a book I had never read...

    9. Re:It's those damn aliens by AlienOverlords · · Score: 1

      Indeed, welcome us.

    10. Re:It's those damn aliens by wilec · · Score: 1

      The SF short strory titled "The Oldest Profession" comes to my mind. I can't remember the author and didn't find it in my brief dig an few minutes ago.

      In it the aliens were merchants, The aliens would graced us Terrans with some neat technology and add us to the guilds trade route if:

      A. We were a species that had desirable materials, products, services or information that we were willing to trade.

      B We were willing and able to construct a launch platform in space to assist them on continued explorations and assist the guild as a node on the trade route.Of course they would assist with knowledge and technology, but the task was mostly ours.

      If on the other hand we were unwilling or unable to complete the project within the launch window. They would use the energy of our exploding sun to power the trip.The aliens trip was one way, they would never return to here or home.

      later ................

    11. Re:It's those damn aliens by centauri · · Score: 1

      Nice reference. A reference to "Inconstant Moon" might be appropriate about now, too.

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  4. one quote... by kisrael · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I have not seen anything like it in my entire career as a solar physicist. The probability of this happening is so low that it is a statistical anomaly."

    You know, 'statistical anomaly' is NOT what I want to hear from solar physicists about my particular sun.

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    1. Re:one quote... by ebacon · · Score: 2, Funny
      You know, 'statistical anomaly' is NOT what I want to hear from solar physicists about my particular sun.

      Perhaps it's the inter-planetary equivalent of banging on your neighbors wall when they're making too much noise?

    2. Re:one quote... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I for one, want this I for one crap to stop!

    3. Re:one quote... by idahogie · · Score: 2, Funny
      "I have not seen anything like it in my entire career as a solar physicist. The probability of this happening is so low that it is a statistical anomaly."

      Would he say that the probability is astronomically low?

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    4. Re:one quote... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      1. Complain about overused tired old retread joke...
      2. ???
      3. PROFIT!!!!


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    5. Re:one quote... by trb · · Score: 1, Troll
      What he said:

      "I have not seen anything like it in my entire career as a solar physicist. The probability of this happening is so low that it is a statistical anomaly."

      What he meant:

      "I don't understand the interactions between solar flares, so I assume that if two big ones happen in the same week, it must be an uncorrelated anomalous miracle of science."

    6. Re:one quote... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

      Something makes me suspect that John Kohl of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics has a much better understanding of the interactions between solar flares than some random dude on /.

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    7. Re:one quote... by E-Rock · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While that probably is true, that doesn't mean that he has any freaking clue what is going on inside the sun. Bad analogy: A moron is more developed than an idiot, but neither one has much of a clue.

    8. Re:one quote... by solferino · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "I have not seen anything like it in my entire career as a solar physicist. The probability of this happening is so low that it is a statistical anomaly."

      If this has been reported correctly it seems a fairly unprofessional thing to say. Does he really have enough data after 30 or so years to calculate the probability of this happening?

    9. Re:one quote... by Orne · · Score: 1

      I would have to say Yes .

      If you can order photos and tables from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration going back to 1874, I can only assume that most major observatories have copies of these records, and (given that they are professionals at this subject matter) are more than qualified to say what is an anomoly or not.

    10. Re:one quote... by zemkai · · Score: 1
      Yeah, 'cause, ya know, 125 years observing a system that's over 6 BILLION YEARS OLD is enough to know all its cycles.

      Sheesh. There's a reason the saying goes "lies, damned lies, and statistics."

      -ZK

    11. Re:one quote... by scumdamn · · Score: 1
      Well he sure sounds more intelligent than "The spirits are angry at us! We have displeased our god(s) and must now kill 10,000 virgins!"

      Besides, nowadays where would we find that many virgins?

    12. Re:one quote... by Pariator · · Score: 1

      "Besides, nowadays where would we find that many virgins?" Silicon valley?

    13. Re:one quote... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      ANY branch of the physical sciences can only speak within the realm of their experience and available data.

      To expect otherwise is to expect them to be psychic. The alternative is for them to say nothing until another 6 billion years pass, and even then, it won't be the same as the first 6 billion years(unless you believe in some kind of stagnant universe theory).

      People who can't take what scientists say within the reality from which they speak, ought to simply not read what scientists have to say instead of mocking them and their obsevations.

    14. Re:one quote... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Jesus cripes, There were solar Flares long before we ever knew they existed. Did the earth just flame up in the past?

    15. Re:one quote... by DataCannibal · · Score: 1

      Consider the following:

      How long has this guy been a Solar Physicist ?

      How long has the Sun been around ?

      I think the sun can handle a couple of statistical anomalies that this guy hasn't seen in his lifetime before it starts to get worried.

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    16. Re:one quote... by 742Evergreen · · Score: 1
      Besides, nowadays where would we find that many virgins?
      Slashdot?
    17. Re:one quote... by kisrael · · Score: 1

      How long has this guy been a Solar Physicist ?

      How long has the Sun been around ?

      I think the sun can handle a couple of statistical anomalies that this guy hasn't seen in his lifetime before it starts to get worried.


      Yeah, but the survival of the sun != our guaranteed continued comfort living conditions here on earth...I mean, obviously it's been pretty damn good for a long long while, but nothing lasts forever...some generation is going to have to deal with a change, and there's a very small but not zero chance it could be us.

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    18. Re:one quote... by zemkai · · Score: 1
      ANY branch of the physical sciences can only speak within the realm of their experience and available data.

      Thank you, my point exactly.

      To expect otherwise is to expect them to be psychic. The alternative is for them to say nothing until another 6 billion years pass, and even then, it won't be the same as the first 6 billion years(unless you believe in some kind of stagnant universe theory).

      An interesting thought, but not at all my point.

      People who can't take what scientists say within the reality from which they speak, ought to simply not read what scientists have to say instead of mocking them and their obsevations.

      If you feel I was mocking the scientific method and those who practice it, I apologize for not being more clear. I wasn't. I was mocking those who feel that with a sample of less than %0.000002, they can predict what will happen over the next 6 billion years.

      -ZK

  5. The Sun is firing at us? by heironymouscoward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why do I suddenly feel like making backups of all my important data... and why do I think it will be of absolutely no use at all?!

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    1. Re:The Sun is firing at us? by Kusanagi · · Score: 3, Funny
      Why do I suddenly feel like making backups of all my important data... and why do I think it will be of absolutely no use at all?!

      Is that "no use at all" like the pre-Y2K world-coming-to-an-end kinda way, or like the post-Y2K lot-of-hoopla-over-nothing kinda way?

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    2. Re:The Sun is firing at us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a little from column A and a little from column B...

      anything remotely electronic that has failed in the last few days has been blamed on the flares by my company's secretaries. p3

    3. Re:The Sun is firing at us? by MuParadigm · · Score: 1


      "...why do I think it will be of absolutely no use at all?"

      Probably because your tapes will get just as irradiated as your hard drives, unles you have a lead lined safe to store them in.

    4. Re:The Sun is firing at us? by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

      Probably because your tapes will get just as irradiated as your hard drives, unles you have a lead lined safe to store them in.

      Unless you stored them off-site...say Alpha Centauri

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    5. Re:The Sun is firing at us? by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Why do I suddenly feel like making backups of all my important data..."

      Yeah I backed up my porn collection too.

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    6. Re:The Sun is firing at us? by David+Gould · · Score: 1


      Why do I suddenly feel like making backups of all my important data... and why do I think it will be of absolutely no use at all?!

      "I heard you're supposed to put a bag over your head. Should we do that?"

      "Sure, if it makes you feel better."

      "Will it help?"

      "No."

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    7. Re:The Sun is firing at us? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

      That's why you burn to DVD.

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  6. Oh God no! by gpinzone · · Score: 1

    I still recovering from all the radiation form the last one! Oh the horror!

  7. Already here by CrazyTrashCanHead · · Score: 2, Informative

    See www.spaceweather.com for more info. SEC's Space Weather Now, however, seems to be down (www.sec.noaa.gov/SWN).

    1. Re:Already here by keep_it_simple_stupi · · Score: 1

      Something that should be mentioned - Congress is considering dropping funding entirely for the Space Environment Center. This is the government organization that comes up with the space "weather forcasts". We may not be facing major problems because of this now, but that's because the power centers and satelite providers have been able to prepare for the solar storm. More information here.

    2. Re:Already here by L0C0loco · · Score: 1

      I prefer this site to plan my aurora watching activities. I was out in my Poquoson, VA yard last night from 7:30 to 8:30 watching some nice red and green auroral glows move about the sky. It would make for an ideal Halloween setting!

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    3. Re:Already here by h2odragon · · Score: 1

      interesting timing, isnt it? They're about to be de-funded, and suddenly there's really weird solar activity that needs study....

  8. Any effects on humans at all? by freeze128 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Do these flares affect humans (or even wildlife) at all? You know, even if it is the same way that pets can sense when an earthquake is about to happen....

    1. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by e4liberty · · Score: 4, Informative

      I heard on NPR last night that an X class CME has the effect of about "10 dental X-rays" on folks flying in airplanes over the poles. I guess the magnetic field lines make the poles the most vulnerable area, and at higher altitudes there is less atmosphere for protection.

    2. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by pmz · · Score: 2, Funny


      One of my co-workers stepped outside right as it hit. His head swelled up and exploded right before us. The rest of his body melted into a pile of bubbling ooze before turning into pure ash and getting blown away by the wind. He was about to get laid off, anyway, so it's not like it really mattered.

      So, yes, I guess there is an effect on humans.

    3. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by 3waygeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The Straight Dope on in-flight irradiation.

    4. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by Mryll · · Score: 1

      Mebbe a few extra cancers?

    5. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      I guess the magnetic field lines make the poles the most vulnerable area

      Nope, it's just that the Ozone layer is open (at least very thinner) at the poles.

    6. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Nope, it's just that the Ozone layer is open (at least very thinner) at the poles.

      Bzzt!

      The earth's magnetic field deflects incoming ions of the solar wind which travel along the field lines, ending up near either of the earth's magnetic poles.

      Did you really think the aurora borealis (and australis) caused by ionizing radiation was due to thin Ozone?

      Also, the only areas with significantly low ozone levels are over the South pole after winter because of the lack of ozone producing sunlight and the isolation caused by the huge temperature differential at the antarctic coast.

    7. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That depends....Are you planning on having any children? j/k

    8. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by public_class_name_ex · · Score: 1


      This is what's been causing all those wild fires in Los Angeles.

    9. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by kberg108 · · Score: 0

      Thank you for your reasonable reply I was about to tell these fools off. Ozone stoping electromagtenic radiation is just laughable.

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    10. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by blackbear · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they make pretty lights in the sky at night, and when you get three in a week everyone gets a little nervous and starts talking about the end of the world, and then you get laid.

      Of course, I'm married so getting laid is out of the question. Getting fucked, on the other hand...

    11. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "One of my co-workers stepped outside right as it hit. His head swelled up and exploded right before us. The rest of his body melted into a pile of bubbling ooze before turning into pure ash and getting blown away by the wind. He was about to get laid off, anyway, so it's not like it really mattered."

      Now I'm anxious to see the next Myth Busters!

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    12. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by ddimas · · Score: 1
      Oh I don't know. Seems to me that ozone does a pretty good jo of stopping Ultraviolet radiation...

      Oh I'm sorry, you meant charged particles didn't you?

    13. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by papa248 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Great... another excuse for my insurance company to send me a bill!

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    14. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      --I guess poor old Bob didn't realize he was actually a Vampire until it was slightly too late... All those years working night shifts and then he gets called into HR during normal hours... What a shame.

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    15. Re: Any effects on humans at all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're a bit open-minded: It's a precursor of the Harmonic Concordance on November 8/9 (a shift in consciousness -- look it up on Google). Some people are very sensitive to these kinds of energetic changes.

  9. Tinfoil hats by Eric(b0mb)Dennis · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, will tinfoil hats protect us from onslaught of solar flares? i have a whole stockpile.. $5.99 a piece, message me for details!

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    1. Re:Tinfoil hats by blizzardsoup · · Score: 1

      1. Make tinfoil hats 2. Set off Solar flares 3. ??? 4. Profit!

    2. Re:Tinfoil hats by keep_it_simple_stupi · · Score: 1

      3. Make a fool of yourself trying to sell them on a website where the average reader is a broke college student or a computer tech who considers his cranium to be so superior to everyone elses that he thinks he'll be immune to such trivial things.

    3. Re:Tinfoil hats by corbettw · · Score: 1

      Good description of the /. crowd. You forgot one element, though: the group who already has their own tinfoil hats.

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    4. Re:Tinfoil hats by MuParadigm · · Score: 2, Funny


      That would be a subset of the computer techs. We already know how to make our own tinfoil hats and don't need to pay any stinking salesman who either a) doesn't know how to make them right and uses shoddy tinfoil or b) is a government or Microsoft spy trying to get into our heads by implanting tinfoil-resistant radio transmitters in our hats.

    5. Re:Tinfoil hats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Oh no! I tried messaging you, but it bounced!

      Oh, the tragedy of the tinfoil hat vendor!

    6. Re:Tinfoil hats by Cyuonut · · Score: 1
      Well, will tinfoil hats protect us from onslaught of solar flares? i have a whole stockpile.. $5.99 a piece, message me for details!
      Sorry, I cannot comprehend. Please try the oh-so-familiar "email -> spam filter -> junk folder" way of sending me interesting news on interesting products.
  10. Flying sucks by The+Real+Le+Roi · · Score: 0, Troll
    I'll be flying north of the 57th parallel tomorrow. I hope this solar storm settles down.

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    1. Re:Flying sucks by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Why wait until tomorrow? I'm on a plane in about 3 hours.
      That's just me, livin' on the edge. OK, so, I'm not quite at the 57th parallel, but I will be flying to the NorthEast USA. Does that count?

  11. Anyone experience ANY damage? by dada21 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Probably by sheer luck and bad timing, I had 3 monitors all fail on the same day while I was at a customers. Couldn't explain the failure (it was definitely an anomoly) but maybe it had something to do with bad power that may have been caused by fluctuations in the power grid?

    1. Re:Anyone experience ANY damage? by Srass · · Score: 1

      That sounds like something that'd show up on the BOFH excuse list, wouldn't it? "Why did all our monitors go dead at once?" "Hmm, let me see, umm... Solar flares."

    2. Re:Anyone experience ANY damage? by Dr.+GeneMachine · · Score: 1

      Well, trying not to sound paranoid... but exactly three of our monitors (out of twentyseven) failed yesterday - fatally... Draw your own conclusions on this bit of anecdotally evidence...

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    3. Re:Anyone experience ANY damage? by squidinkcalligraphy · · Score: 1

      At the school I'm working at, a heap of monitors' alignments have gone a bit out today, notably the pin-cushion. Nothing major, but I wonder if that's related, or just coincidence

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    4. Re:Anyone experience ANY damage? by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 1

      Most of the monitor failures I've experienced happened in clusters also (usually 2s or 3s). I have no idea why. They weren't usually the same make or model and weren't always plugged into the same physical circuits.

  12. Fyst Ps0t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the troll that brought you the FAQse.cx on the previous article.

  13. just to nitpick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >the sun has fired another large solar flare towards Earth

    what other kinds of flares could it possibly send? im pretty sure if the sun is involved, then it is solar. Now Im going to go plug my PIN number into an ATM machine.

  14. right about now by zephc · · Score: 5, Funny

    a kid in rural Kansas is accidentally throwing a tractor a half mile from his farm.

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    1. Re:right about now by captain+igor · · Score: 1

      Or inadvertently running to lake tahoe before his s uper speed gives out.

    2. Re:right about now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then spending all his money on a bus ticket back to the farm... that show is AWESOME!

    3. Re:right about now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forget the tractor throwing... I wanna see a nude scene with Kristin Kreuk. Or better... star in a nude scene with her. :D

    4. Re:right about now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She'll use a body double... she uses one for bikini/bra scenes!

    5. Re:right about now by GweeDo · · Score: 1

      I love in Rural Kansas and sure don't feel my super powers kicking in yet...should I stand outside?

    6. Re:right about now by Santos+L.+Halper · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've loved in the shower, and my bedroom, but I must admit, I've never loved in Rural Kansas.

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    7. Re:right about now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't go outside, becuase that crazy drunk reporter is going to try and corner you. Maybe you could get your Dad to cause a diversion.

    8. Re:right about now by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I've loved in the shower, and my bedroom, but I must admit, I've never loved in Rural Kansas."

      I've loved in rural Kansas. Even experimented with tropical oils. Can't wait to try it with a partner!

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    9. Re:right about now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do we know she wants to see **YOU** naked? ha ha.

    10. Re:right about now by egeorge · · Score: 2, Funny

      Isn't the phrase "rural Kansas" a little redundant?

    11. Re:right about now by SpongeScrodSpareCock · · Score: 0

      Maybe you're loving with the wrong partner. This may be news in rural Kansas, but try loving a member of the opposite sex of your own species, that get's my super powers going all the time.

      SHUT Da FUCK UP beeeyatch!!! B4 1 kn0xk d4t d1ck right outta your mouth faggot!!!!


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    12. Re:right about now by bendude · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, Kristin Kreuk wants to see...

      Nah forget it.

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    13. Re:right about now by styrotech · · Score: 1

      I've loved in rural Kansas. Even experimented with tropical oils. Can't wait to try it with a partner!

      For a second there, I thought you were going to say "a human partner".

      I guess I let my imagination get away from me when thinking about what goes on in rural Kansas.

    14. Re:right about now by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "I guess I let my imagination get away from me when thinking about what goes on in rural Kansas."

      Nah, that kinda shit doesn't happen in rural Kansas. Cows are too big to hump.

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    15. Re:right about now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've loved in rural Kansas. Even experimented with tropical oils. Can't wait to try it with a partner!

      "I've tried my hand at sex..."

  15. Pity by nepheles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a pity that more people don't get to view these phenomena, because of modern light pollution. How many people are losing awe-inspiring sights, such as this and the milky-way?

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    1. Re:Pity by chgros · · Score: 1

      It's a pity that more people don't get to view these phenomena, because of modern light pollution. How many people are losing awe-inspiring sights, such as this and the milky-way?
      And how, tell me, do you expect to "see" a solar flare, during the NIGHT? (or even during the day for that matter, unless you have a coronograph).
      Unless you're talking about an aurora borealis, which is not said to be going to happen.

    2. Re:Pity by letxa2000 · · Score: 1
      Unless you're talking about an aurora borealis, which is not said to be going to happen.

      Hello, McFly? Have you not been paying attention to the news and pictures of the last week. These flares are shooting straight towards earth and have been producing auroras unusually far south. I believe Spaceweather.com said this morning they'd been seen as far south as New Mexico, Texas, and even Florida.

      So yes, I think he's talking about auroras and, yes, it has been said that they're going to happen. The only real question is how far south.

    3. Re:Pity by jandrese · · Score: 3, Funny

      Er, to see the solar flare you would have to look directly at the Sun. Modern light pollution is not going to be a big concern. Needless to say, for your own safety, please only do this at night.

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    4. Re:Pity by keep_it_simple_stupi · · Score: 1, Funny

      Ummm... What? Please only view a solar flare at night? Can I have some of that stuff to smoke as well?

    5. Re:Pity by Minwee · · Score: 2, Informative

      Er, to see the effects of this solar flare, you would be much happier looking at the Aurora Borealis. Light pollution is going to be a big concern.

    6. Re:Pity by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "It's a pity that more people don't get to view these phenomena, because of modern light pollution."

      Ooo pretty colors! *CrUnCh* Pothole.

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    7. Re:Pity by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

      Light pollution? The sun?

      I brought my telescope to work today, set it up in the parking lot, and showed my co-workers. The view was stunning, with lots of oohs and aahs.

      I used a filter like these which reduce the sun to a comfortable intensity.

      ...laura

    8. Re:Pity by battery+bunny · · Score: 1

      are u the laura k from MVC high school in watsonvill?

    9. Re:Pity by garwain · · Score: 1

      I agree, the light pollution is getting insane. I wish the flares had taken out the power grid (again, like in 89. Too bad I was too young to remember that one) Even when Quebec was hit by the big ice storm, and everything was black, I could see some amazing sites in the night skys. Let's all write our government reps and try to convince the powers that be to reduce the light emmissions. Surly we don't need a street light on every pole in town?!? people shouldn't need to have ball fields flooded with daytime brilliance at 2:00 AM. Sure, it's nice to have a spotlight in your yard when you are expecting company, but it doesn't do a lot of good when you are sleeping! Put in a motion sensor instead of having the light on all night, and position it so that it doesn't see every car that drives by on the road! Office buildings that are closed for the night surely don't need to have every light left on. Maybe on the ground floor for security reasons, but the next ten floors could go black

  16. Yet another loud Sun Fart. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Stupid sun.

  17. Damn... by I_Love_My_Mac · · Score: 1

    It's those bastard photino birds going at it again...

    1. Re:Damn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit! We only have millions of years to live in this universe!

  18. How much do solar flares effect computer equipment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much do solar flares effect computer equipment?

  19. How far south? by icejai · · Score: 1
    I'd really like to know how far these northern lights have been spotted.
    I'm in Toronto and I'm hoping that the northern lights show will keep up until dusk here.


    So, who has seen them so far, and how far south are you?

    1. Re:How far south? by nate1138 · · Score: 1

      According to the article, people as far south as Georgia and Texas have seen 'em. I live in Alabama, and because of all the damned light pollution, I can't see shit.

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    2. Re:How far south? by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

      How about a null result? I'm in Baltimore; I looked for the aurorae last night, but saw nothing (I've seen them from Wisconsin before, so I know what I was looking for). I can't guarantee it wasn't due to light pollution, but it was a clear, relatively dark night.

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    3. Re:How far south? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm in Northern Mexico and haven't seen shit. :)

    4. Re:How far south? by runner_one · · Score: 0

      Nada, nothing, zilch in rual Tennessee last night but I will keep looking tonight.

    5. Re:How far south? by betonklink · · Score: 1

      What about Europe? Anything?

    6. Re:How far south? by N7DR · · Score: 1
      It's a bit hard to believe that GA an TX have had auroras; I live in Colorado and have made a point of checking each of the past few nights, several times a night, and there's been nothing here.

      And yes, it does get pretty dark here, so it's not light pollution that's preventing me from seeing anything.

    7. Re:How far south? by p_trekkie · · Score: 1

      Last night I saw them from where I am, in spite of my latitude (40 deg N) and proximity to Washington DC (10 mi to the Capitol Building). I didn't even have to go somewhere light pollution free, but it helped that there were no lights in the immediate vicinity (golf course). They were incredible!

    8. Re:How far south? by Dr.+GeneMachine · · Score: 1

      Anecdotally, as far as Cologne in Germany. Did'nt see any myself, as I live in Bayreuth, about 55 north and constantly cloudy.

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    9. Re:How far south? by RichardX · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm in northern Scotland, and I saw it (faintly) last night (that is, around 11 PM on the 29th). A couple of people I've spoken to said they saw it much brighter around 9 PM

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    10. Re:How far south? by styrotech · · Score: 1

      So, who has seen them so far, and how far south are you?

      There were reports of Aurora sightings in southern New Zealand - that's pretty far south! :)

  20. Is the sun mad? by pvt_medic · · Score: 1

    Has the scientist given any explanation about this yet. I remember reading that this was unusual activity for the normal cycles.

    Otherwise, join me in a verse of the REM song
    It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

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    1. Re:Is the sun mad? by Maxhrk · · Score: 0

      or rather gods(any type of gods of any religion)'s warning to tell human beings translation: oh hell humans being have problems with violence, then send solar flare as warning signal. (solar flare) I, for one, welcome RA overlord from egypt

  21. Cellphone dead? by whitelabrat · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll take all the cellphone interruptions I can get. Go sun go!

    -your sig here

  22. 802.11 affected? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hrm, over the last week or so, it seems that 802.11 fails to work over longer distances due to extra noise. Is this just my imagination or could it possibly have anything to do with the solar flares?

    Anyone know for sure if ground communications are affected at all or just sattelites?

    1. Re:802.11 affected? by WeblionX · · Score: 1

      I'd assume you mean for either short periods of time or "outdoor" connections, as my network, as crappy as it is, has been fine all throughout the flares. (Except when it randomly locks up, but that's just the hardware.)

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    2. Re:802.11 affected? by Shakrai · · Score: 1
      I'd assume you mean for either short periods of time or "outdoor" connections, as my network, as crappy as it is, has been fine all throughout the flares. (Except when it randomly locks up, but that's just the hardware.)

      What, Linksys hasn't patched their firmware to protect against these events yet? I hope of the crew of the ISS is using a Cisco AP ;)

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    3. Re:802.11 affected? by WeblionX · · Score: 1

      Funny, though it's not even Linksys.

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  23. Obligatory Office Space Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Y'know, I don't really care. I don't really like talking about my flair.

  24. Aurora ? I wanna see 'em! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will the Aurora be visible from, say, St. Louis,
    San Francisco, or Washington, D.C. ??? How far above the horizon with the Northen Lights be? What time?

  25. is this bad? by hyperstation · · Score: 1

    not to jump to conclusions or anything, but does anyone know if things like this are a sign of impending doom for our sun, or is it just "something happening".

    have such frequent large flares been observed before on other stars?

    1. Re:is this bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah it's bad. I have a PhD from CalTech and believe me, the chances of three solar flares happening in such rapid succession is _very_ slim. I believe this is a precursor to pre-nova solar activity. Give it 50 years and then it's all over. Live while you have the time.

    2. Re:is this bad? by kberg108 · · Score: 0

      hmmm smells like bull shit to me. How many other stars solar flares have we looked at... hmm thats right none cuz we are to fucking far away how can you say anything about what solar flares mean for the sun when we can't compare it to anything else. hell we have only been watching for CME's less than 20 years

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  26. How long would we last? by drywater · · Score: 1

    How long could we go without the sun? Say it just fizzled out, how long before we become an ice cube? Could science react and save mankind?

    1. Re:How long would we last? by Hamster+Of+Death · · Score: 1

      How fast does the temperature drop at night..
      Extrapolate from there.
      On the surface.. I'd give things about a week.
      The oceans a bit longer...
      Things freeze quick without any input of energy.
      Underground would be your only hope after that.
      You won't be around to find out though.

    2. Re:How long would we last? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We would first become an inferno. When "fizzling out", it would first expand into a very large red giant, completely destroying the earth. We'd be worried about being incinerated first.

    3. Re:How long would we last? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Approximately 9 minutes (slightly less actually).

      That is the time it would take for the light rays and gravitational effect to reach the earth before it flew off into space.

      Didn't you watch the show on PBS the other night?

    4. Re:How long would we last? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's any comfort, stars don't just "fizzle out." If it was to stop it's hydrogen->helium fusio reactions, it would collapse suddenly, which would bring upon enough heat and pressure to start fusing helium into carbon, which would in turn expand the sun into something like a thousand times is current size. Following this, we get burned to a crisp.

      So, you don't need to worry about freezing. :)

    5. Re:How long would we last? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sun's dont fizzle out and if they did. Not too long.

    6. Re:How long would we last? by snooo53 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Ignoring all the typical whiney /. comments about how that's impossible because of blah blah physical explanation (and totally missing the point of your question), I don't think mankind would have a chance as a whole. I would guess that within a week the surface would become uninhabitable.

      I do however think a very very limited number of people could survive in deep mineshafts. Bring down a small nuclear generator, some source of oxygen, lights, canned foods and enough plants and seeds to be able to start some sort of food production, and I think a few people could survive for a number of years.

      The main problems I see is that they have no way presumably of making the machinery necessary to keep things in good repair and to replace broken equipment. So without a lot of foresight, I dont' think those people would have more than a few years. Although it does make one wonder if some small secret govt. group has thought of and prepared for this contingency. Who really knows?

      I also think the social chaos on the surface would kill off most everyone before a day or two are up.

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    7. Re:How long would we last? by s20451 · · Score: 1

      Obviously, we would be completely fucked. For one thing, our entire food supply is powered by the sun, and within days every crop and every piece of livestock would be dead, frozen -- except for those in insulated greenhouses. For another thing, eventually it would be so cold that the atmosphere would start to condense, and we wouldn't even be able to burn things to keep warm, or breathe. It is utterly beyond the ability of existing technology to survive on Earth without the sun.

      We would probably need a century of warning at least, and even then, the best strategy would be to move humanity to a different star system. And that feat is beyond any current or forseeable technology.

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    8. Re:How long would we last? by Mantorp · · Score: 1
      theoretically we (we=our species not all 6 billion of us) could build nice domes or underground structures and stay warm on nuclear power and live happily ever after (assuming no change in gravity from the sun). The thing is that to prepare for something like that would cost a bundle and take years and years of preparation.

      If the sun just went dark one day without warning we'd be done. Wonder how long it would have to be dark for our oxygen to run out? Think the only survivors would be those things that hang out around the vents down on the ocean floors and don't rely on oxygen.

    9. Re:How long would we last? by steevo.com · · Score: 1

      OK, obviously we would lose light, but we would also lose the gravitational pull from the sun, if it were not there. How long before the Earth and the other planets smash into each other. Would universal graviation bring the planets together?

    10. Re:How long would we last? by Lemmeoutada+Collecti · · Score: 2, Funny

      The human body produces over 20000 BTU's of heat... more during vigorous physical activity... perfect chance for us to get girls!

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    11. Re:How long would we last? by Shadwhawk · · Score: 1

      If the sun simply vanished, the planets wouldn't smash into each other. They's simply fly off on tangents from their orbits. Chances of impact events between the various planets and planetoids in the now-expanding system would be insignificant compared to the sudden lack of sunlight.

    12. Re:How long would we last? by falzer · · Score: 1

      If the sun went out, I'd just go back to bed.

    13. Re:How long would we last? by LokiFoo · · Score: 1

      The human body produces over 20000 BTU's of heat... more during vigorous physical activity... perfect chance for us to get girls!

      Helluva way to test that "last man on earth" axiom...

    14. Re:How long would we last? by gewalker · · Score: 1

      I seem to recall that you figure 600 BTU's per person for cooling load.

      20,000 BTU is way high.

    15. Re:How long would we last? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Couple of things here:

      You are assuming the sun will just "fizzle out"- never happen. A star the size of ours would probably go nova when it died- taking us with it. If it didn't, "fizzling" would take hundreds of thousands of years (the sun's basically "fizzling" now, albeit relatively slowly). I hate to say it, but you guys are coming up with plausible outcomes to an implausible situation.

    16. Re:How long would we last? by Hamster+Of+Death · · Score: 1

      And hell .. you'll already have the lights out.

  27. The end of the world! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A big cloud of plasma will end the world later today. Thus, for good luck, paypal your credit limit and/or bank account to: mrk@azureheights.com

    In exchange, I will do a good luck dance/chant/whatever for you. Thanks for your cooperation.

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  29. Re:Join us, brothers in jihad! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Database Tool - A huge searchable database of old Score:4 and Score:5 posts ready for reposting. Gain karma at your will. Then, use your mod points and karma bonus to cause mayhem.

    Well seeing as how your post is modded as 0, I would say your system isn't working to well.

  30. Another one (story, not flare)? by Valar · · Score: 1

    You guys are aware that solar flare and sunspot activity are connected to a cycle and that this kind of thing will happen for quite awhile longer before the activity dies off, right? There is really no point of putting up a story about every time we have a big flare, because this could go on for awhile and is really quite normal behavior.

    1. Re:Another one (story, not flare)? by duber007 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The peak in the current cycle was a few years back....see the NOAA's SolarCycle page Considering it's an 11 year cycle, we are supposed to be on the downswing right now....also, don't forget that we're now at two major storms in the last few days, emmenating from two massive (and still growing) sunspots on the surface of the sun...so, I would call this something extraordinary.

    2. Re:Another one (story, not flare)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh. This isn't exactly an "ordinary event."


      If you would have read the article, you would have found that it is a "statistical anomoly" according to one solar physicist.

    3. Re:Another one (story, not flare)? by Kombat · · Score: 1


      If this were part of that "cycle", then I'd agree with you, but RTFA. We're well outside of the cycle. The last cycle peaked in 2000. The sun is supposed to be relatively dormant right now. So this is odd. And newsworthy.

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    4. Re:Another one (story, not flare)? by kberg108 · · Score: 0

      isn't increased sunspot activity a precusor to a solar pole shift? But I think the curent activity is out of cycle. We aren't due for another solar pole for like 4 or 5 years. I belive the pole shifts are every 10 to 11 years.

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  31. Halloween is going to be killer by orn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pun intended.

    This could shape up to be a really amazing Halloween. For some reason, that 80's movie about Halley's comet's tail intersecting the earth and making zombies out of everyone that wasn't in a lead-lined room comes to mind. I, for one, will welcome our new zombie overlord masters. :-)

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    1. Re:Halloween is going to be killer by hookedup · · Score: 1

      This here?

    2. Re:Halloween is going to be killer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      STEEL-lined, doofus.

      the people in lead-lined boxes got zombified.

      even the US Govt, under a mountain, in Cheyenne, got zombified.

      it was STEEL (i don't understand why or what kind) that protected that chick and that photographer dude in the movie.

    3. Re:Halloween is going to be killer by CWCarlson · · Score: 1

      That would be Night Of The Comet, I believe.

    4. Re:Halloween is going to be killer by Detritus · · Score: 1

      A better movie is the 1962 film The Day of the Triffids. Everyone stays out late to watch the pretty meteor shower (the fools!), not realizing that it is causing serious eye damage. Most of the world is blinded, except for a lucky few like our hero, who had been in a hospital bed with his eyes bandaged. Cue the carnivorous plants, who think blind people are very tasty.

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  32. We don't know squat. by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article:
    Space weather forecasters say this spate of strong solar flares is not consistent with normal solar behavior. The sun, which follows an 11-year activity cycle, has been quieting down since the last peak in 2000.

    Although we humans have been looking at the sun since before we climbed out of the trees (and our moms have been telling us not to even longer), it's almost silly to say that any observation of our local star is "not consistent with normal solar behavior." Just how many of those 11-year cycles have been recorded?

    If the ancient Chinese were using pinhole solar viewers to count sunspots for the past 5000 years, that would be one thing. But as has been posted in every Slashdot story on the subject, we have maybe 200 years of scientific data (of varying quality) out of the sun's five billion year history. Even W's pollsters would tell you that sample size is too small.

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    1. Re:We don't know squat. by letxa2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      we have maybe 200 years of scientific data (of varying quality) out of the sun's five billion year history. Even W's pollsters would tell you that sample size is too small.

      True, but that doesn't stop people from going on and on about global warming based on even less data.

    2. Re:We don't know squat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even W's pollsters would tell you that sample size is too small.

      You had a good post going, and then you brought politics into it. Now, credibility=zero.

    3. Re:We don't know squat. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      and don't even get me started about the Ozone hole baloney based on data from less than 5 solar cycles. Now the hole shows a little sign of slowing in growth and they say "oooh, see our measures are working'. The truth is that of course the earth has been much hotter and much colder than it is now, the Sun's output has varied, the magnetic field of the earth has fluctuated & moved & changed polarity.......

    4. Re:We don't know squat. by son_of_asdf · · Score: 4, Informative

      We actually have access to many thousands of years worth of climactic data, thanks to extracted ice cores, data from the ocean floor, and an number of other sources. For starters, have a look at The Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute's website for more information on the subject.

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    5. Re:We don't know squat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No one is saying that sunspot activity has always followed an 11-year cycle, nor that it always will. We're talking about *one particular* cycle which deviates sharply from normal solar behavior in recent history.

      By analogy, it would be wrong to assume that the North Pole will always point towards Polaris. But we would certainly be surprised if it stopped pointing towards Polaris *tomorrow.*

    6. Re:We don't know squat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey George. Dont you have a nation to mismanage and a few more cronies to be a benefactor to? Quit reading Slashdot and get back to screwing the people.

    7. Re:We don't know squat. by JayBees · · Score: 1

      Actually, with just the naked eye, Chinese astronomers were able to look at the sun and see sunspots. There are over 100 documented accounts of sunspots in a period of 1600 years up to the years that the Jesuits arrived from Europe. These accounts are so accurate that if one examines Chinese sunspot records from 43 B.C. to A.D. 1638, the 11-year cycle of sunspots, not discovered until 1843, can, in fact, be determined to be 10.6+/-.43 years!

      Don't believe me? You can read up on the subject in Chen Xiaozhong's paper "Records of Astronomical Events", from the publication "Ancient China's Technology and Science", published by the Foreign Languages Press in 1986.

    8. Re:We don't know squat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hm. And I always thought that you found sun spots by looking at the sun, not water. Interesting. You learn something new on slashdot every day.

    9. Re:We don't know squat. by letxa2000 · · Score: 1
      We actually have access to many thousands of years worth of climactic data, thanks to extracted ice cores, data from the ocean floor, and an number of other sources.

      Yes, but most of what global warmer's use for data is surface readings from the last 100-150 years based on "direct observations." That's far too little data to make any conclusions.

      And, of course, they normally ignore the thousands of years of data obtained, with varying accuracy, from ice cores, etc. because they show a constantly fluctuating temperature that goes up and down naturally without and before any human influence. This tends to take some of the wind out of their arguments since most people will (correctly) conclude, "Well, temperatures have been rising and falling since the beginning of the planet. Are we really causing it?"

    10. Re:We don't know squat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Acording to this article, we have about 250 years of recorded sunspot history.

    11. Re:We don't know squat. by son_of_asdf · · Score: 1

      This tends to take some of the wind out of their arguments since most people will (correctly) conclude, "Well, temperatures have been rising and falling since the beginning of the planet. Are we really causing it?"

      While it is correct to conclude that climactic fluctuation occurs naturally in the absence of anthropogenic influence, it is extremely foolish for us to thus conclude that the large quantities of greenhouse gases that we are releasing into the atmosphere are having no effect upon global temperatures. It is well established that we are currently in the midst of a warming trend, particularly in artic and subartic regions. Even if you stipulate that this warming would have occured in the absence of anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions, you cannot ignore the fact that these emissions would excacerbate the problem.

      Yes, but most of what global warmer's use for data is surface readings from the last 100-150 years based on "direct observations." That's far too little data to make any conclusions.

      This is incorrect. The scientifically accepted models of global warming are based both on directly observed climactic data and paleoclimatic data.

      It is worth noting at this point that even British Petroleum has released a statement on the subject of rapid global warming which acknowledges its exsistance and probable roots in greenhouse gas emissions.

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    12. Re:We don't know squat. by letxa2000 · · Score: 1
      While it is correct to conclude that climactic fluctuation occurs naturally in the absence of anthropogenic influence, it is extremely foolish for us to thus conclude that the large quantities of greenhouse gases that we are releasing into the atmosphere are having no effect upon global temperatures.

      No effect? I'll agree that they don't have NO effect. As the theory goes, a butterfly in China causing a hurricane in the Carribean, etc.

      But last I checked we are producing about 6 Gts/year of CO2. Considering the naturally occurring CO2 is in the hundreds of Gts/year you have to admit that our effect is marginal. It's like you've opened the faucet in the bathtub and also have the drain open--if you dump a bucket of water in, yes, there's an effect, but it's not going to overflow the bathtub.

      It is well established that we are currently in the midst of a warming trend, particularly in artic and subartic regions. Even if you stipulate that this warming would have occured in the absence of anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions, you cannot ignore the fact that these emissions would excacerbate the problem.

      Again, see my above analogy regarding the bathtub. Yes, it probably has some effect. I would debate that the effect is even measureable and that by even making drastic cuts in CO2 production that we'd see any significant change in warming. If nature is in a warming trend we are foolish to think we can counteract that by reducing our own emissions which make up such a small part of the natural CO2 production.

      It is worth noting at this point that even British Petroleum has released a statement on the subject of rapid global warming which acknowledges its exsistance and probable roots in greenhouse gas emissions.

      That is politics. It is politically correct to acknowledge global warming and you get dragged through the mud if you suggest otherwise. It is in a company's best interest to publically state such things so as to not get bad PR, etc.

      I'd rather base conclusions on facts rather than just saying "Well, if it's good enough for British Petroleum..." And while not debating that there has been some warming in the last 150 years (although there has been a bit of a decrease in the last 20), my issue is with the assumption that it is man-made. Again, I refer back to my comments above.

      Nature and the sun are both hugely more powerful than us humans and have orders of magnitude more effect on the temperature of the earth than we do.

  33. BOFH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sweetness. A great opportunity to utilize my "BOFH excuse of the day" calendar.

  34. Interesting thing to watch for: by Sheetrock · · Score: 1

    There is a perceptible slowing of the Internet as the flare hits our magnetosphere -- at first I thought this might be satellite-related, however the slowdown appears to occur within the country as well as to overseas links. Perhaps this is related to the effect on the power grid?

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    1. Re:Interesting thing to watch for: by letxa2000 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Actually I think it is just the effect of everyone running to Slashdot to reply to the latest solar flare story.

    2. Re:Interesting thing to watch for: by OutRigged · · Score: 1

      As odd as this sounds, I've noticed it myself; though I never thought it could be related to the flares. Everyone I know with some form of broadband has been bitching about download speeds, even my local college's T3 is running like crap. Though I'd blame something local before I blame the sun.

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  35. Big eal by John+Jorsett · · Score: 1, Funny

    So far I haven't see*#*%-*@#FFgo)$}+!3UjadfWUER

  36. missing poll option by cmorgan47 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    this is my most feared natural disaster.

    why was this not on the poll?

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  37. Re:You know... by UltimaL337Star · · Score: 0

    So did Jennifer Aniston's manager on officespace!

  38. Next week's The Onion headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Sun Declares War On Earth; Sick Of Earth Leeching Off It"

  39. CRYSTAL PLANET by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 1

    OH NO! The Crystal Planet is on it's way!

    Quick, someone discover Endurium fast so we can build a superphotonic starship and get the fuck off of this planet!

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    1. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      > ... so we can build a superphotonic starship ...

      ALRIGHT. I want to know who was the jerk who invented such stupid terminology as "Photonic" anything. Thanks to him, we now have Star Trek Voyager goons spouting out bulls**t about "photonic life forms", "photonic energy" and "photonic matrix". Oh, and the proper term for a space ship that travels faster than light is, "SUPERLUMINAL". Remember that, will you?

    2. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by coolmacdude · · Score: 1

      Won't help. It will just find us somewhere else, and I already used the black egg to take out that asteroid. :(

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    3. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by Shenkerian · · Score: 2, Funny

      It seems you agree perfectly with the moderation of his comment.

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    4. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by Kombat · · Score: 1


      Oh, and the proper term for a space ship that travels faster than light is, "SUPERLUMINAL".

      I thought "superliminal" that was when someone flashes messages on a screen too fast for you to read, but that affect your behaviour anyway? Maybe I've been listening to Bush too much.

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    5. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Funny

      From Dictionary.com:

      whilst
      conj. Chiefly British

      While.

      [Middle English whilest, alteration of whiles, whiles. See whiles.]

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    6. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      > I thought "superliminal" that was when someone flashes messages on a screen too fast for you to read

      Uh, that would be "subliminal". "Superluminal" literally mean "exceeds" (super) "light" (Lumen, commonly used as measurement of light. Root of "luminous" and "luminal".)

    7. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by ReciprocityProject · · Score: 1

      Repent, air breather, and you shall be saved!

    8. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by canajin56 · · Score: 1

      Good thing there is more than one, for just such an emergency ;)

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    9. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by Kombat · · Score: 1


      It was a joke.

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    10. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by idontgno · · Score: 1
      L.T. Smash: It's a three-pronged approach: subliminal, liminal, and superliminal.
      Lisa: Superliminal?
      Smash: I'll show you. (opens window) Hey you! Join the navy!
      Carl: Uh, yea, alright.
      Lenny: I'm in!

      The Simpsons knows everything.

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    11. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      Sorry, there were no cues that you were being sarcastic.

      *clears throat*

      Ha Ha, how funny!

    12. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > You tell me how "whilst" differs from "while," and I'll stop calling you a pretentious jackass.

      The spelling?

    13. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 1

      Don't tell me about it, I'm just making jokes based on a classic video game.

      SOME people apparently got it.

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    14. Re:CRYSTAL PLANET by Kombat · · Score: 1


      Yes there were. That was why the Bush reference was in there. Are you not familiar with Bush's famous commandeering of the English language? Google for "Bushisms" and you'll see what I mean. :)

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  40. Power grid and BPL by afternoon_nap · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder how it'll affect the BPL test sites. Most BPL (broadband over powerline) would be affected somehow since they operate on HF frequencies. Additionally most shortwave radio was adversely affected.

    I saw some of last night's aurora from my location in SE Arkansas. Anyone else see the aurora?

    1. Re:Power grid and BPL by SagSaw · · Score: 1

      Massive solar flares temprarily render the ionosphere incapable of reflecting HF radio waves back to earth. BPL would not be affected (at least not in the same manner) since BPL does not rely on bouncing a signal off the ionosphere.

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  41. aurora? by mliu · · Score: 1

    I remember some time ago there was a story on Slashdot about how the solar cycle was at its peak, and people even at low latitudes could see the Aurora Borealis. Unfortunately I missed out on it that time, but I'd love to see the Aurora still. Does anyone know if these solar flares will again allow people as far south as San Francisco or even Los Angeles to see the Aurora?

    1. Re:aurora? by javaxman · · Score: 2, Interesting
      There is a picture of aurora which someone took in Sacramento last night.

      Aurora pictures from last night

      The above page has pictures taken in places like Georgia, Iowa, Oklahoma, Texas... some *great* views in Colorado, too. Alaska? The entire sky was green and red last night.

      It was too windy here ( SF bay area ) for me to have ventured out last night. Ok, I admit, I forgot to look. My view to the north sucks anyway.

  42. strange article by alex_ant · · Score: 0
    My first response to the article was "WTF?" but I decided to do something more productive than that. Perhaps you might find this more accessible to you as well:

    The Sun today unleashed what appears to be the third most powerful flare in recorded history, a storm of charged particles that could hit Earth mid-day Wednesday with more effect than any since 1989, when an entire Canadian province had its power knocked out.

    Depending on the storm's magnetic orientation, it could set off a dramatic display of colorful northern lights well into mid-latitudes of the United States and Europe.

    Meanwhile, satellite operators and power grid managers are preparing to endure a potentially damaging event. And astronauts aboard the International Space Station have taken cover from heavier radiation sent out by the flare. They are not expected to be in any serious danger.

    Kicked up at 6 a.m. EST (1100 UT) today, the major solar outburst comes on the heels of four other flares late last week and over the weekend. All were considered fairly severe, but the latest eruption makes the others seem like solar sneezes.

    Today's blast is classified as an X17, where X denotes a major flare and larger numbers are stronger. That compares to two flare-ups over the weekend that were rated less than X2.

    "The flare today may be the third strongest X-flare on record," said Paal Brekke, deputy project scientist for the SOHO spacecraft, which first spotted the event.

    A slightly stronger flare on April 2, 2001 was not pointed at Earth. Today's storm is headed directly at us and could generate fantastic colorful lights in the atmosphere, known as aurora. The storm associated with the flare is called a coronal mass ejection, an expanding bubble of charged particles that race outward.


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  43. My server is safe by phorm · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've coated the whole motherboard with SPF-50 sunblock. Ain't none of that darn sun radiation gonna get my computer.

    If anyone needs me I'll be out back holding my hotdog-on-a-stick up real high...

    p.s. Anyone else smell coconut burning?

  44. Smallville reference by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Funny

    > (insert end-of-the-world statement here)

    Or at least the end of my superpowers! Somebody saaaavveee mmmeeeee...

    1. Re:Smallville reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The second I read this I hit the read more then "CTRL+F" and did a search for "smallville" that is after my heat vision nearly burnt my monitor.

    2. Re:Smallville reference by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      > Somebody saaaavveee mmmeeeee...

      Only if you look like Kristin Kreuk. :)

  45. Not this year by LittleGuy · · Score: 1

    This one could arrive as early as Thursday (Oct. 30th) afternoon. (insert end-of-the-world statement here).

    Well, that's moot for another year, thanks to the Yankees and Marlins....

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    1. Re:Not this year by David+Gould · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the danger's past for now, but Great Scott, that was close!

      Guess we've got until about 2015.

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  47. Obligitory BOFH link by xFoz · · Score: 1

    Hmmmm... the BOFH excuse generator turns up a real excuse for once....

  48. Are these *really* anomalies, or.. by teknophil1ac · · Score: 1

    are the commercial news agencies just milking what they think will get them more page views?

  49. MORE HOT AIR from McNealy? by cpu_fusion · · Score: 1

    Oooh... you mean the other Sun. pfft

  50. Hasn't the Sun... by Muddie · · Score: 1

    been declared a weapon of mass destruction, capable of destroying North Americans without regard to political or religious affiliation? I thought the Bush administration was taking these threats out one by one. Or is this in next year's budget.

    (it's funny. laugh)

  51. It's Bush's fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, the universe has finally got so pissed off at the Bushies, it decided to destroy the Earth.

  52. Anyone starting to think ... by DogIsMyCoprocessor · · Score: 0

    that it's time we stopped worshipping Allah, Jesus, and Buddha, and go back to worshipping Sun gods? Clearly she's pissed ...

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    1. Re:Anyone starting to think ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All hail the sun god! He is the fun god! Ra! Ra! Ra!

      (stolen from a sig years ago)

  53. sorry guys!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we were kicking a football around last night and I guess it got up a little high.. probably disturbed things. I guess I should've tried to get it down with a stick or something, didn't mean to leave it up there.

    wait 'til my 10-year-old finds out what he did... man.... I hope the end of the world doesn't come or santa's gonna be pissed....

  54. Self-evident reporting by Zathrus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Best headline I saw on these was on MSNBC Wednesday. My wife told me about it, but I went and confirmed myself:

    Space Storm hits; Earth Survives

    Which, of course, is amazing news and you certainly wouldn't have known if the alternative had occurred.

    I'd provide a link, but like most of the online news outlets they readily change story headlines and content throughout the day. It's completely different now and talks about the current state and the upcoming flare output tomorrow (Friday).

    1. Re:Self-evident reporting by advocate_one · · Score: 1
      "Space Storm hits; Earth Survives"

      That's a bit like this one
      Fog in Channel, Continent Cut Off

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    2. Re:Self-evident reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YUO = OWNED!

    3. Re:Self-evident reporting by cachorro · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it should read:

      Space Storm Hits; California on Fire

    4. Re:Self-evident reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HOLY CRAP! My entire state is on fire? Then why the hell is it so cold in my cubicle?

      Ah yes, Rhonda the office hippo is sweating next to me, so the A/C is cranked up.

  55. Ah, solar flares by Digital+Dharma · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Ultimate Slashdotting.

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    1. Re:Ah, solar flares by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, a supernova would be the ultimate Slashdotting.

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    2. Re:Ah, solar flares by metlin · · Score: 1

      Nahh, that would be the big bang, I mean _The_ Big Bang. ;)

    3. Re:Ah, solar flares by NoNine · · Score: 0

      The Ultimate Slashdotting that you can sing along to: Twilight Zone!

      I'm sorry you can't help you

  56. No doubt what caused this... by Dirk+Pitt · · Score: 1

    This is obviously caused by SUVs.

  57. Aurora very likely by goodmanj · · Score: 1

    The gas from the flare reached us this afternoon (EST); a geomagnetic storm is now underway. Auroras are very likely to be visible as soon as it gets dark. Skies over most of the eastern U.S. should be clear tonight. Check spaceweather.com for more info.

  58. Re:You know... by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

    So did Jennifer Aniston's manager on officespace!

    Definately a step in the wrong direction. We we want her wearing less, not more.

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  59. Weren't a fan of Hogan's Heroes, were you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There comes a point when you can joke about any tragedy. I'm constantly making jokes about the War of 1812, but I bet you wouldn't like that, would you?

    1. Re:Weren't a fan of Hogan's Heroes, were you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't begin to compare the war of 1812 to millions of people being killed because of their race. There wasn't horrible mass torture in the war of 1812. There are still survivors of the concentration camps. (And Hogan's Heros didn't make jokes about the Jews being killed, so that's irrelevant)

      Answer the question, would you like people joking about 911 (which, by the way, was quick and merciful compared to the holocaust)? HAHAHA IT'S SO FUCKING CRAZY!!! THOSE PEOPLE WERE JUMPING TO THEIR BLOODY DEATHS TO ESCAPE THE FLAMES!!!!

      Crap man, do you even think about what you're saying?

    2. Re:Weren't a fan of Hogan's Heroes, were you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey jackass, its not a joke about jews dying, its a joke about peices of flare, and a quote from a very funny movie by Mike Judge. You, my friend, are an idiot.

    3. Re:Weren't a fan of Hogan's Heroes, were you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why YES....

      http://www.andere-seite.de/schadenfreude/

  60. super powers by Anil · · Score: 1

    So, how many solar flares do you think it will take to turn all the people on the Space Station into superheros?

    will this start our glorious age of super powers?

  61. Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by fname · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I read this line, "I have not seen anything like it in my entire career as a solar physicist. The probability of this happening is so low that it is a statistical anomaly.", I cringed. Either a) This guy thinks his model is great & really believes that this is a 1/1,000,000,000 event, or b) he knows that this indicates a whole in his model, but the reporter ripped the quote out of context to make the story more sensational.

    A little statistics primer is in order. In order to quote odds on anything, a statistician needs a model, generally based on existing data. When there is an event that's off the charts, it will usually indicate to the scientist (or engineer) that there is a deficiency in their model (or their process is out of control, for manufacturing types). If I were a solas scientist, this event would indicate to me that the model is not adequate for predicting this sort of thing. Which makes sense, since we probably only have 40 years worth of data; you expect to be thrown a curve-ball every now and then.

    So I doubt it really is a statistical anomanly; maybe these solar-flare pairs occur every 50 years or so & that's why we haven't seen it before. But either the reporter needs to better explain the meaning of the quote, or the quotee needs to take a basic course on the limits of statistical probability.

    1. Re:Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by Peyna · · Score: 1

      The sun has been around a long time; so any models we do have are based upon a very small set of information that is a subset of a huge amount of information we do not have.

      For that reason alone, I doubt that this is as rare an event as some may make it out to be.

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    2. Re:Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, maybe it really is a statistical anomaly.
      It's not like it CAN'T be a statistical anomaly. Just very very unlikely. :)

    3. Re:Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Or, maybe you really are a paranoid nutso.

      It's not like they CAN'T really be out to get you. Just very, very unlikely

      Have you checked your tinfoil hat today?

    4. Re:Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by fbg111 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sounded to me that the scientist meant this event is an outlier in the collected data. A single outlier is nothing, and most are lopped off before making models anyway. Is this event really that big a deal?

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    5. Re:Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by Phanatic1a · · Score: 1

      So I doubt it really is a statistical anomanly; maybe these solar-flare pairs occur every 50 years or so & that's why we haven't seen it before.

      Um. No.

      Maybe there really are solar-flare pairs every 50 years or so. But a solar-flare pair, both of which *are directed towards the Earth*, would still be relatively rare. Figure out how big the sun's surface area is. Then figure out how much of that suface area is actually pointing at the Earth at any given moment.

      Statistical anomaly.

    6. Re:Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by Faraday's+Sloth · · Score: 1
      True, no all-encompassing solar models exist. Completely separated from it's context that quote does sound silly, ie. if we consider the probability of an eruption from the sun of the magnitude described here. However, when you factor in the chance that an such an eruption would also hit Earth, it really appears quite a rare event.

      Also, data related to this event has been systematically accumulated for over a hundred years. Scientific measurements of Earth's magnetic field has been recorded in many observatories from the late 19th. century. Official date for the earliest data of magnetic storm is 1868.

      As a primer to those unfamiliar with space weather phenomena,in short, the charged particles from the coronal mass ejection create currents in the earth's ionosphere (altitude of 100km-200km), which due to induction, disturb Earth's magnetic field.( So no outdoor solar grill-parties, I'm afraid.). These variations are used as an indicator in the measurements... the more wiggling of the magnetic needle, the more powerful the storm, so to speak. Alas, a regular compass is not precise enough to measure these variations.

      Not only did the storm that hit earth yesterday create fluctuations in the field bigger than anything in 14 years (northward pointing field component variation of over 3000 nanoteslas in a span of few minutes at 60deg latitude in northern Europe), being the 15th. strongest storm in the recorded history, the same apparently happened tonight also.

      So, what does it mean? Well, time-varying magnetic fields induce electric fields. Not extremly strong fields (maximum in the range of volts/km), but in long conductors even relatively weak fields can effect strong currents. 1989 most of Quebec's powergrid suffered a black-out due to these geomagnetically induced currents.

      Now as it happened, the magnetic field in the yesterdays particle eruption was luckily beningly aligned- same direction as Earth's field, which deflected ... buffeted...the particles... oh, it's complicated. Anyway, if the field had been pointed antiparallel to Earth's field, the particles would have flushed in in to ionosphere creating lot more of electromagnetic activity.

      Well, enough of rambles. My point was that when you analyze the this event, it's not just about some single fluctuating random variable. And it's not rare just on the scope of some obscure numerological thingamajick of a model. Actually you've got a plenty of fluctuating variables...or something. And also a beautiful display of northern lights, if you're lucky.

      (Damn clouds, no aurora borealis for me.)

    7. Re:Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't the definition of "statistical anomaly" roughly something like all those values that are more than one and a half times the distance from Q1 to Q3 from the median?

    8. Re:Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by fname · · Score: 1

      It's pretty clear you're a lot more knowledgable on this subject than I am. But isn't it true that most of records of past CMEs are based on those directed towards earth? If they weren't at least somewhat in our direction, we'd be unlinkely to know about them (especially in the past). A second question: given the relative short time frame that these CMEs occured over, is it possible/likely/certain that both CMEs came from the same spot on the sun? Is the sun's rotation much greater than 24 hours? If so, that would strongly imply that these were not independent events, since they occured in the same region of the sun.

      If, however, we do have 100+ years date on all CME events, we would be able to say that it's a statistical anomaly. I just think it's more likely that we don't understand enough about the sun's behavior to properly characerize this event.

    9. Re:Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by Faraday's+Sloth · · Score: 1
      But isn't it true that most of records of past CMEs are based on those directed towards earth? If they weren't at least somewhat in our direction, we'd be unlinkely to know about them

      True. Some indicators for solar activity have been recorded for over a hundred years; the aforementioned magnetometer data and the sunspot number: http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/IONO/sunspot.html

      Also, prominences located at the edges of the visible "disk" of the sun have been observed probably as long as that: I found some nice modern day examples in here: http://www.digilife.be/club/Franky.Dubois/world.ht m

      But, none of these methods produce quantitative data of the precision or scope available today. One of the top instruments (well, intstrument platform actually)is the SOHO spacecraft launched in 1995 http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/

      There have probably been other solar observing satellites prior to soho, but I can't remember any specifics (anyone?).

      So, yes, unless a particle storm from a CME event hit earth square in the face, so to speak, there would be no quantitative data of such an event older than... a handful of decades?

      ...both CMEs came from the same spot on the sun?

      Yes, they did. The culprit is known as "sunspot 486". More data at www.spaceweather.com.

      Is the sun's rotation much greater than 24 hours?

      Actually, there's a latitudal variation to the angular speed of the sun's surface. The period of sun's rotation around solar equator is 29 (Earth)days. On the 60 latitude it's 25 days.

      If, however, we do have 100+ years date on all CME events, we would be able to say that it's a statistical anomaly. I just think it's more likely that we don't understand enough about the sun's behavior to properly characerize this event.

      I suppose it's an anomalous event in the scope of the recorded history of Earth's magnetic field data... True, to extend this probabilistic term to the entire lifespan and surface of the sun would be silly. But, you have to take in he human aspect of the situation; it's on of the biggest events monitored and recorded. It's a one thing to have the mathematical intuition that events of some magnitude are possible, and to actually witness one (ie. you know that it's possible to win lottery. But you don't, very often. At least I don't :) )

  62. I don't know about humans, but... by Flamesplash · · Score: 1

    According to last nights Smallville it affects those from Krypton. Watch out all you Kryponites

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    1. Re:I don't know about humans, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its Kryptonians you fool.

    2. Re:I don't know about humans, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do not believe this propaganda inhabitants of Planet Houston. They are lies brought forth by the son of Jorel.
      Now, KNEEL BEFORE ZOD.

  63. You know what this means? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    No size restrictions and screw the limit!

  64. Re:You know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go watch Office Space you moron.

  65. Re:How much do solar flares effect computer equipm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They really don't effect computers at all. That's becauI(*lk%^)9jkj [NO CARRIER]

  66. Lots of time to prepare! by barzok · · Score: 1
    Sure am glad CNN alerted us at 12:35 PM Eastern that the flare could impact us as early as this afternoon.

    Luckily our terrestrial weather forcasting (which has a far greater impact on our lives) is a little better. I've had more warning before tornados!

  67. These are minor storms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According http://spaceweather.com/ these storms
    originate from from giant sunspot 486. I can't
    wait to see the storms that come from super-giant
    sunspot Pentium....not to mentions those from
    Pentium II, III or IV.

  68. damn SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know why or how, but SCO is behind this....

    "Release the Linux source code to us or we extinguish THE SUN!"

    "(I meant the sun in the sky, you dope)"

  69. Remember the Alamo!, err... Maine! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You fuckin' drunken Cananadians!

  70. News report... by MoeMoe · · Score: 1

    I'm Steve Stevenson for the daily channel 192 news. Tonight, in a related story we brought to you yesturday, the sun has once again tried to destroy the earth. The sun claims that "we were in the way" and stated "when ya gotta go, ya gotta go..."

    President George W. Bush commented on the topic claiming that the sun may be in league with known terrorist group Al-Queda. President Bush attempted to stare down the sun in a show of bravery when his eyes were severely burned due to over exposure to UV rays without blinking. Later on today, President Bush will be launching a "Shock and Awe campaign" directed towards the sun to send the message that the United States does not deal with terrorists...

    Go ahead, deny that you got a good laugh...

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    1. Re:News report... by earache · · Score: 1

      I didn't laugh once, no denial here.

  71. Great News For More Government Bureaucracy!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


    The Department of Homeland Insanity will surely be warning all patriotic residents to buy duct tape and plastic sheets for protection from evil doers.

    Very patriotically yours,
    Kilgore Trout

  72. (end of the world statement here) by holzp · · Score: 1

    Sorry, used them all up awhile ago.

  73. Hopefully... by One+More+Troll · · Score: 0

    Hopefully these aren't just warning shots...

  74. environuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised the environuts have not called for legislation to prevent the sun from "polluting" and "irradiating" the environment. Perhaps they plan to sue the sun into submission.

  75. Ob simpsons by cybercuzco · · Score: 1

    "Watch out, Radioactive Man! The Sun is exploding again!"

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  76. Enough already... by Jedi+Holocron · · Score: 1

    ...let's skip the daily reposting on this till we see one that looks like it's going to mean we really do need those tinfoil hats.

    Until then, set your browser homepage to SpaceWeather.Com to keep updated.

  77. Vancouver cleared up!!! by ashitaka · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It was cloudy and raining when I posted the last time.

    However it cleared up by evening. I was working late keeping an eye on the Real-Time Aurora Map which was looking pretty quiet when all of a sudden almost the entire northern hemisphere is coverd in a big red circle.

    Went outside and sure enough, the Northern sky is aglow in blue and red.

    Very cool.

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    1. Re:Vancouver cleared up!!! by blahtree · · Score: 1

      What time was that? I looked around 11 last night and didn't see anything. Mind you...I'm downtown and there's a fair amount of light pollution : (

    2. Re:Vancouver cleared up!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      damn im in burnaby and ill go look tonite. what direction was it north van?

    3. Re:Vancouver cleared up!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're downtown and there's a fair amount of light pollution?!?!?

      Well, I'm in my Burnaby basement with my gro-op
      I cannot see any northern lights at all ever
      but I don't care.

    4. Re:Vancouver cleared up!!! by bbc22405 · · Score: 1

      And to think that all these years they've been trying to use silver iodide to influence the weather, when they should have been using high-energy protons! Who knew?

      Anyhow, great to hear you've got a clear view of the sky. Uh, you did remember to wear your ray-bans when you were outside looking up, didn't you?

    5. Re:Vancouver cleared up!!! by Jardine · · Score: 1

      I'm in SW Ontario (near London). I didn't see anything but clouds last night. Oh well, I've seen the northern lights before. Light pollution isn't bad enough to drown them out all the time.

    6. Re:Vancouver cleared up!!! by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      11:55. I was poking my head out every 20 minutes or so and seeing nothing. Started as a smooth glow before coalescing into curtains and the red band. Not as sharp as I had hoped but cool nonetheless.

      I live on the West side and thus had to look past the lights of downtown and a bloody bright street light.

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    7. Re:Vancouver cleared up!!! by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      Whole northern sky East to West. Red band to the East, blue-white curtains to the West.

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    8. Re:Vancouver cleared up!!! by pahpabut · · Score: 0

      and sure enough it will be drizzling rain from a covered sky all up til late sunday. goddamn, I feel like sinking the brit isles right of the baleares right now.

    9. Re:Vancouver cleared up!!! by maj1k · · Score: 1

      i'm in whistler and saw them light up the ENTIRE sky on tuesday night from 3am to roughly 3:40am. pretty amazing but tiring for work the next day ...

  78. Re:You know... by falcon5768 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    a) It's a freaking OFFICE SPACE JOKE, ya think Mike Judge caught shit for writing it.... no I think not. b) I find it funny and I am the grandson of a surviver, who ALSO found it (and the movie it's self ) funny. Well ok the fish thing wasnt so funny to her but still!!!! c) It's over-sensitive people like you who start wars over stupid shit you should just shrug off, instead of letting everyone be themselves and just leave everything well enough alone.

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  79. All this great surf... by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 2, Funny
    The surf is unseasonably heavy, and here I am stuck in a civilization that hasn't invented flare riding ships yet. :-(

    I only hope the spirit of Douglas Adams is out there enjoying the show.

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  80. Short answer. by Shenkerian · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    No.

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  81. Sun Support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I called 1800-USA4SUN about this.

    They recommended patching.

  82. I AGREE WITH THIS POST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    My great-grandfather died at Auschwitz!



    He got drunk and fell out of his guardtower!

    1. Re:I AGREE WITH THIS POST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You deserve to suffer for that joke. May a thousand rotting and putrid sores infest you and your decendants.

    2. Re:I AGREE WITH THIS POST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      humans drastically overestimate their ability to not automatically incorporate everything they see, hear, and experience into their cognitive model of the world. if everybody hears something over and over again and isnt repulsed by it, it will eventually become a small part of their consciousness.

      DOWN WITH TV! DOWN WITH THE INTERNET!

      well, maybe that's a little overboard. just maybe everybody gets to think what they want, because if we all liked the same jokes, and had the same views, we'd never learn a damn thing. there is a fine line to dance on for many jokes. when it comes down to it, it isnt the wording of the joke, or the subject of the jokes that matters, its the context for it.

      i think the context here was pretty obviously not to piss off jews, but to laugh at the stupidity of german's who couldn't even manage to stand in a tower without falling.

      to give you an example of a joke with no redeeming value...

      how many jews can you fit in a volkswagon beetle?

      2 in the front
      2 in the back
      and one million in the ash tray.

      that's what they get for killing my lord and savior.

  83. Great CNN Headline by Buskaatt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sun delivers yet another shot at Earth

    In other news, President George W. Bush as extended the Axis of Evil to include the Sun. "This supposed ally has been flexing its nucular [sic] muscles without U.N. oversight for generations. While small infractions can be overlooked, a direct strike at the U.S. will not be ignored."

    1. Re:Great CNN Headline by Webmoth · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Sun delivers yet another shot at Earth"

      How else is Sun going to resuscitate its market share? If all sorts of pretty flashing lights don't help, then they're doomed.

      Sun's just using Microsoft tactics: use our stuff or else.

      Now, where's the Justice Department? They should be going after Sun for abuse of monopoly powers; it far outshines any other thermonuclear energy provider that Earth uses.

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    2. Re:Great CNN Headline by akruppa · · Score: 2, Funny

      This sounds like almost literally out of Austin Powers...

      The President: C'mon, let me nuke that bastard.
      Commander Gilmour: You want to blow up the sun?
      The President: Would you really miss it that much?

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    3. Re:Great CNN Headline by mikec · · Score: 1

      During a Capitol Hill press conference today, DNC Chairman Roy Romer implied that President Bush may be responsible for recent geomagnetic anomalies. "Is it a coincidence that these problems are happening after one of the worst weeks for U.S. troops in Iraq since 9/11? And isn't it interesting that Haliburton, a corporation with close ties to the Vise President, is heavily involved in both Iraq and in magnetic sensing technology?" He went on to call for a special investigator.

    4. Re:Great CNN Headline by Avihson · · Score: 1

      Well Bush learned his lesson:

      Instead of sending troops to bomb the sun into submission and set up a democracy, he will be sending ALL of the UN to do a fact-finding study on the possibility of opening dialogue with the inhabitants. Along with the fact finding, he has authorized NASA to use a shuttle to send Chirac, Schroedder, and Hans Blix to start onsite inspections.

      If that doesn't work, I'm sure Martin Sheen, Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand, et al will be sent there to show the sun the errors in its ways.

      The whole Liberal left has empathy with solar power, they should be able to convince the sun to moderate the outrageous outbursts and learn to just get along.

      This is the Kinder, Gentler, President; he has been chastised by the best minds of Hollywood, so I know he will do the correct thing!

    5. Re:Great CNN Headline by Mr_Icon · · Score: 2, Funny

      "But do not worry," he added, "the well-being of our troops sent to perform this mission is our primary concern. They will land on the Sun at night, so as to avoid getting burned."

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    6. Re:Great CNN Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Since the dawn of time, Man has yearned to destroy the sun..."

  84. If you think a flare is the end of the world... by HardCase · · Score: 1

    Then you haven't seen this!

  85. California Fires and Sunspots by mo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One interesting effect from the fires in California (specifically San Diego) is that the smoke has made it very easy to view the sun. Since the smoke has been so dense, the sun has appeared as this rich red-orange disc in the sky, with little dark dots on it where the solar flares are. I wish I had taken a picture, but I'm sure somebody can dig one up on google.

    1. Re:California Fires and Sunspots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I know, I'm being anal, however... you're not seeing dark dots where flares are/were, you're seeing sunspots. These are zones where the sun i much cooler and therefore less bright.

      Then again, the solar flares do come from sunspots. Specifically 486.

    2. Re:California Fires and Sunspots by CaptainCarrot · · Score: 1
      I'm being anal

      You're also being wrong. CMEs and solar flares are caused by anomalies in the Sun's magnetic field that are also associated with sunspots. This means these events are closely correlated with both individual sunspots and overall sunspot activity.

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      And the brethren went away edified.
    3. Re:California Fires and Sunspots by davec_sd · · Score: 1

      Here is a link to the Sun through the smoke from one of the San Diego TV stations.

    4. Re:California Fires and Sunspots by GQuon · · Score: 1

      Please don't look directly at the sun, even at sunset or trough clouds. If the smoke is so dense that it feels like nighttime, then maybe it's safe.

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    5. Re:California Fires and Sunspots by perrin · · Score: 1

      No, do *not* look directly at the sun, even though it is dimmed by smoke! The radiation most dangerous to your eyes is not visible light, and you could easily harm your eyes this way...

    6. Re:California Fires and Sunspots by GQuon · · Score: 1

      Yes, you're right of course.
      The eyes are able to look at the sun without shying away because there is less visible light, but the "invisible" light will damage the eyes.
      If you're admiring a sunset, don't look at the sun but rather the landscape/sea/skyscrapers.

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  86. Old news...hit approximately 1700 UTC (noon EST) by opusbuddy · · Score: 1

    IMPACT: A coronal mass ejection (CME) swept past Earth today, Oct. 30th, at approximately 1700 UT. Conditions are favorable for a strong geomagnetic
    storm as a result of the impact. The CME was hurled toward our planet yesterday by an X10-class explosion from giant sunspot 486. Sky
    watchers should remain alert for auroras.

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  87. Watch the POES site.. by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    Here. When your area is covered in red go out and look.

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  88. uh by CGP314 · · Score: 1

    (insert end-of-the-world statement here)

    No thank you.

  89. For all you environmentalist wackos by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 1, Troll

    (Bloviate Mode On... loading Limbaugh module):

    Folks! We've got another big one for you. It seems that while those tree hugging environmentalist wackos have been touting solar energy as being "clean, safe and renewable", the sun has been taking pot shots at the Earth. How's that for "clean, safe and renewable"? Let's face it. These windbags want us to believe their lies about the sun being nice and friendly and we should all hold hands and sing songs. But now the truth is coming out. The sun is a dangerous form of energy! In fact (exec pull-statistics-out-of-ass module), in all 175 nuke plants around the world, there is only one, that's right folks, one plant that ever had any problems! And that's a plant that was government run in the old USSR. 100% of all the plants run by Enron have been 100% efficient, 100% reliable and 100% safe! Now, I don't know about you, but I would far rather have a small controllable nuclear incident in some little town in the midwest rather than the sun shooting some giant supercharged gases at my home. It's a credit to my listeners that you know where to go to get th real facts. Excelence in Broadcasting. That's what we're all about!(kill -9 Bloviate... uloading Limbaugh module)

    Hehehe... where to start with this one... hehehehehe... ;P

    1. Re:For all you environmentalist wackos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dittos Rush!

      Once again Rush has proven he can beat liberals with half his brain up his ass! er, on pain killers! er, tied behind his back...

  90. Bush will be blamed... by doppleganger871 · · Score: 1

    ...for these solar flares now. I can just see it... Enviro-wackos blaming oil and SUV's for the massive solar activity.

    1. Re:Bush will be blamed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They shouldn't blame Bush. Blame Clinton! Bush just inherited this Sun mess from the previous administration.

      Stupid liberals.

    2. Re:Bush will be blamed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's ridiculous. Bush is to blame for my hemoroids, headaches, and herpes(long story), not this.

      Geeze, gets your facts straight.

  91. Magnetic North shifts 5 This morning by tonywestonuk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    According to the BBC, magnetic north varied by 5 degrees in 25mins starting from 0830 GMT, as the storm swept passed us.

    1. Re:Magnetic North shifts 5 This morning by VisorGuy · · Score: 2

      Please forgive my ignorance, but I'm a bit confused...

      In all this solar flare news, I have read a few times that the severity of the affects our technology experiences is conditional on the orientation of the magnetosphere...

      I can't help but wonder: what controls the orientation of this magnetosphere? Is it not the "poles"? Are they not immovable? Is it possible for us to [someday] influence the orientation of the magnetosphere?

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    2. Re:Magnetic North shifts 5 This morning by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      I'm no expert, but magnetic north is always shifting around, and in fact there is evidence that in the past, it has completely flipped around (magnetic north becomes south and vice versa)

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    3. Re:Magnetic North shifts 5 This morning by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      Here's a great link from the Geographic Survey of Canada: http://www.geolab.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/northpole_e.s html

      Check out the link on the side menu: "Magnetic Reversals" too.

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    4. Re:Magnetic North shifts 5 This morning by transient · · Score: 1
      That's true, it moves around quite a bit. Aeronautical charts have "isogonic lines" plotted on them, which indicate the amount by which magnetic north differs from true north. These lines are updated every few years.

      Another interesting aviation-related tidbit about magnetic variation: Runways are numbered according to their approximate magnetic direction. Sometimes magnetic north moves so much that runways have to be renumbered!

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    5. Re:Magnetic North shifts 5 This morning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah - dats right - Canada owns the north pole and Santa's house too. If you've ever navigated with a compass you owe us man!! I'll put my pay pal in the next message.

    6. Re:Magnetic North shifts 5 This morning by KnightStalker · · Score: 1

      At the risk of sounding stupid...

      I was looking for this on my compass today, and I observed really wild swings in the reading. Normal declination here is 18 deg. east of north. At about 1:30PM PST, my compass was reading about 40 deg. E. Later, at about 4:00PM, it was reading about 80 degrees west of south (!!!) which is about 120 degrees off. (This was 40 miles north of the 1:30 reading.) Now, it's completely normal. I'm sure no one was messing with me... i was out by myself. It's an accurate compass, and it's never done anything like this before. What would cause this? The storm's not *that* strong, I hope...

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  92. one simpsons quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    lets burn down the observatory so that this never happens again!

  93. Office Space quote... NOT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The pieces of flair comment was in Office Space, but it didn't relate to Jewish people. Come off it you fucking Nazis. What I wouldn't give to have everyone one of your addresses and come and slay you in your sleep.

  94. Oh, Jeebus! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    "Allah, Buddha, Jesus! I love you all!"

  95. Effects by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

    Has anyone noticed any effects of the Aurora other than the nice light show?

    Last night a computer turned on here all by itself sometime during the night. It's never happened before, but it could just be a concidence.

    1. Re:Effects by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      Uh oh. Make no threatening motions, and move veeeery slowly towards the wall socket. If it has a web cam attached, you're screwed.

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    2. Re:Effects by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      Nah, I'm safe. I had left a non-bootable floppy disk in the drive!

  96. the original report by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1
  97. Its actually those DAMN Republicans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bush, Cheney, and Halburton as destroying on environment with their blantant outbursts!

    Secretly overheard recently ...

    Global Warming, I'll give them some GLOBAL WARMING!

    S.

    1. Re:Its actually those DAMN Republicans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Sun is a liberal myth!

  98. Effects on high speed computers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been observing some strange, seemingly random problems with some computers I have that run at 2.8Ghz. As far as I can tell, there should be nothing wrong with them that would cause failures, nonetheless, they have been failing! Could this be caused by solar interference? Maybe...

    If random high energy EMI does tamper with high speed circuits, what does that mean for modern computing? Perhaps our next wave of computer technology will have fall back snapshots that are used when things don't check out anymore.

    1. Re:Effects on high speed computers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      I have been observing some strange, seemingly random problems with some computers I have that run at 2.8Ghz. As far as I can tell, there should be nothing wrong with them that would cause failures, nonetheless, they have been failing!


      That's not caused by solar flares, that's caused by the latest Red Hat distro. Fdisk the box, install Windows XP Pro and all will be fine.

    2. Re:Effects on high speed computers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha, oddly enough you may be right. the failure behavior of linux especially with ide interface transfers seems to be pretty bad. windows auto scales back the speed of ata interfaces much more readily than linux. linux likes to freeze if enough UDMA CRC errors pop up. i never had a problem with this in windows, but drive performance is much better in linux.

      i imagine that problably the only links in the computer where the interference could pop up are ones involving lots of wires (ide, scsi).

      so this leaves us with an interesting dilemna...
      do we backup now and risk bad data getting written, or back up later and risk data getting messed up?

      catch 22 baby

  99. Perfect Space Storm by descil · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/pe rfect_space_storm.html

    "Remarkably, science has documented solar events a hundred times more intense... But none of them interacted with the Earth in such a violent manner."

    "What transpired ... was this: ... From August 28 to September 2 several solar flares were observed. Then, on September 1, the Sun released a mammoth solar flare. For almost an entire minute the amount of sunlight the Sun produced at the region of the flare actually doubled."

    "The question I get asked most often is, 'Could a perfect space storm happen again, and when?'" added Tsurutani. "I tell people it could, and it could very well be even more intense than what transpired in 1859. As for when, we simply do not know."

    Perhaps we're looking at something similar now. Interestingly, the article I grabbed these quotes from was published 10.24.03 ... just a couple days ago.

  100. It's those damn aliens = reference explained by Starlet+Monroe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For those of you wondering, this is a reference to Larry Niven's "The Fourth Profession". This is considered one of Niven's best short works.
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    Summary is as follows:

    An interstellar trading ship arrived in the moon's orbit two years ago, and the few aliens who have descended to Earth have stayed in their landing craft or at the United Nations building in New York City. When one of the aliens unexpectedly shows up in a Los Angeles tavern, bartender Ed Frazer awakes the next morning with the strangest hangover of his life. Ed barely remembers taking the pills offered by the alien; each pill flooding his brain with the knowledge of an alien profession ... spaceship captain ... teleporter .... translator ... but Ed can't remember how many pills he took, or if the confusing overload of information in his head shadows the terrible secret of their mission.

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    1. Re:It's those damn aliens = reference explained by Jerdie · · Score: 1

      I loved the reference, and I caught it. :-) What were the called? the visitors or outsiders?

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    2. Re:It's those damn aliens = reference explained by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An interstellar trading ship arrived in the moon's orbit two years ago, and the few aliens who have descended to Earth have stayed in their landing craft or at the United Nations building in New York City.

      I'm waiting for the anal probing to begin!

    3. Re:It's those damn aliens = reference explained by Verteiron · · Score: 1

      Monks. For the big robe-like shape-concealing garments they wore among strangers.

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    4. Re:It's those damn aliens = reference explained by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The queen said she was going to ream us with twenty inch cattle prods, and I'm still waiting!

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  101. Good News! by Euphonious+Coward · · Score: 1

    I missed the Aurora Borealis from the last one because it was socked in around here. Now the sky is clear, I might get to see it this time.

  102. What to do if the world is ending by Baron_Yam · · Score: 2, Funny

    Alternate between lots of sex and quiet contemplation. That way, when you die you're 50% happy and 50% solemly dignified. :)

    1. Re:What to do if the world is ending by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 1

      Why bother with the solemly dignified?!

  103. major dilemma! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does this mean I should repent for my sins, or do a lot of sinning while there's still time?

    Things that make you go "Hmmm..."

    1. Re:major dilemma! by digitalhermit · · Score: 1

      Well, do you believe there will be Hell to pay if you do sin?

      Imagine if God truly didn't exist and you are just another random bit of carbon floating the Universe. There is no fate, just happenstance. No God, just the cold, quiet Void. Make peace with your God or with the Void, it's up to you. My thought? Live every day as if it were your last. Do it now. Whether that means you talk to that girl in phys ed or you complete that doctorate or paint that novel, just do it now.

    2. Re:major dilemma! by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      Does this mean I should repent for my sins, or do a lot of sinning while there's still time?

      Repent. While Pascal's wager is out of popularity, Tumbleweed's quandary can easily be solved by a simple realization:

      Do a lot of sinning now, and if the world doesn't end, we'll make your life extremely miserable.

    3. Re:major dilemma! by eli173 · · Score: 1

      I know Pascal's wager, but what is Tumbleweed's quandry?

    4. Re:major dilemma! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or waste your fucking life posting on /.

      Shut the fuck up moron!

    5. Re:major dilemma! by dorix · · Score: 1

      I decided to take your advice, and I painted the novel. But now I'm in hot water because my wife was reading it, and now she can't see the words for all the paint on them. Gee, thanks.

    6. Re:major dilemma! by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      Tumbleweed and his quandry.

    7. Re:major dilemma! by Darby · · Score: 1

      I know Pascal's wager, but what is Tumbleweed's quandry?

      That would be the subject of this thread.
      Tumbleweed proposed it and Planesdragon helpfully copied it in his reply.

  104. Media Wonderland by Druss.the.legend · · Score: 1

    Thank God for these solar flares. Otherwise wtf else would the media have to report about. Its better than a snow storm. Gimme a break Solar flares are regular occurances. This is nothing unusual, strangely enough - just like a snow storm.

  105. Chicken Littles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why haven't I seen anyone on the news lately saying this is a sign of the apocalyse? I mean, why isn't Jerry Fallwell up on the mountain a-prayin' to Jebus for forgiveness of all man's sin and to save the planet?

    Or is he too busy molesting little boys?

  106. Absolutely! by BenitoM · · Score: 0
    Were it not for the flares, none of us would be posting to Slashdot right now.

    Proof that the solar cycle and the Slashdot effect are related!

  107. Re: Solar Statistics by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

    We DON'T just have the Sun on record, though. We've been looking at various other stars of various other types and ages for quite some time. Admittedly, it's not the same as observing OUR star for its complete lifetime, but it does extend confidence in models explaining its behaviour beyond what we could base on our direct local observations alone. If those models support our limited data, we have justification for considering that data as significant.

  108. its ok, my lifes work is stored on magnetic media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    but hey iam not bothered, wont affect me or you

    or will it ?

    it could all be gone by next week

    thank goodness we where clever enough as a civilisation not to store it on something that could be damaged by forces way above our control

    we are experts are we not ?

  109. PR stunt for this book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Decipher (slashdot)

  110. Surfing With The Alien by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I prefer SWTA but Crystal Planet is good too.

  111. Oh great! by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

    It's frigging thursday 22:30 over here, and NOW you tell me we are going to be hit by a flare this afternoon!?
    What are we? Living in the age where we use pigeons to spread emergency news!?

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  112. Dinosaurs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A solar flare is what killed the dinosaurs !!

    Ok maybe it was combined with something else, or maybe it caused something else which caused the dinosaurs to die.

  113. Finance question by bryam · · Score: 1

    That's why SUNW stock is up today? ;-)

  114. Preemptive strike? by Hey_bob · · Score: 1

    ...the sun has fired another large solar flare towards Earth.

    Lets hope that Bush doesn't decide we need to declare war on the sun for attacking us without provocation.

    1. Re:Preemptive strike? by bravni · · Score: 1

      Actually he did. In a press conference, US President George W. Bush just announced that nuclear missiles would be fired against the Sun in retaliation.

      One journalist asked: "But won't the intense heat of the Sun melt the missiles before they even reach the surface?"

      "Haha, you think I'm dumb!", Bush said. "That's why we'll launch them at night!"

  115. Okay Everyone... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1

    Okay everyone, will you stop pissing off the Sun!!

    --
    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  116. Physics of Power Grid Surges by rjthomas61 · · Score: 2, Informative

    CNN: "Power grids in the northern United States and Canada felt the effects of the first storm. Utilities endured power surges and closely monitored their systems to prevent surges, according to NOAA."

    Check out this article for more details on how solar flares cause these surges.

    Excerpt:
    "If (when) this flow of charged particles and embedded magnetic field collides with the Earth, it dramatically disrupts Earth's geomagnetic field and ionosphere, changing the terrestrial magnetic fields ... This magnetic field change, which occurs fairly rapidly, then induces currents in nearby conductors. ... In those areas that do not have high conductivity, such as those areas that contain igneous rock, the induced current flows through any available current path-typically, the long utility system lines for power, gas, oil, water, and telecommunications."

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  117. Bonfire... by dJCL · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Excellent, I'm having a bonfire out in the field tonight, and the weather has cleared up, so conditions look to be good. It will be a fun night... esp since the people showing up are a bunch of pyros and it's so wet here that you could drop in some napalm and not start much of a blaze...

    Skywatching for me tonight...

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  118. Its Global Warming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now they must start to believe!

  119. Not another one! by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

    Not another one! I'm still trying to clean up the mess and restore the damage from the last flare?

    What mess and damage, you ask? How should I know, I'm still looking for it. The media kept telling me there would be major problems, so it has to be around here somewhere.

    Aha! That two year old battery in my smoke alarm is dead! Obviously the fault of solar flares.

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    Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
  120. hm by starflt · · Score: 1

    xenon i'm still waiting for my money --borno

  121. Not Aliens - Crab People!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taste like crab, talk like people...

    1. Re:Not Aliens - Crab People!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry buddy, South Park references only work when they've been forgotten for a year or more, so that the people who recognise them can feel superior about getting the 'joke'.

    2. Re:Not Aliens - Crab People!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      1. Make South Park reference
      2. ????
      3. Profit!
  122. Dear Sol by Letter · · Score: 0
    Dear Sol,

    Please! The last thing we need is more Auroras!

    With regards,
    Car & Driver

  123. Re:You know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck the world trade center and all its victims. Who gives a shit, really.

  124. YES by commodoresloat · · Score: 0

    And I, for one, welcome our new solar overlords!

    1. Re:YES by ddimas · · Score: 1

      Big deal, the've been in charge for EONS!

  125. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  126. Re:You know... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

    " c) It's over-sensitive people like you who start wars over stupid shit you should just shrug off, instead of letting everyone be themselves and just leave everything well enough alone."

    It's usually a combination of overly sensitive people and underly sensitive types. On one hand, people need a sense of humor, on the other, people could stand to be a little more sypmathetic.

    You're both right, and you're both wrong. Instead of beating each other up over it, try using a little understanding of each other's view, will ya?

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  127. Someone tell Clark Kent! by LothDaddy · · Score: 1
    After seeing the troubles Clark went through the last time a large solar flare happened, he better be careful.


    Sorry, couldn't resist - it was just on last night.

  128. Typo Fix by JM+Apocalypse · · Score: 1

    $article =~ /\(ins[^\)]*\)/I\ am\ a\ moron\./;

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  129. Noon meridian? by Kenneth+Stephen · · Score: 1

    Can someone explain that image to me please? What do they mean by noon meridian? I thought that noon at any given meridian is when the sun is at the apex of its daily path when viewed from the meridian in question.

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    1. Re:Noon meridian? by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      The "noon meridian" is the meridian approximately on the line between the poll line through the earth, and the Sun. As of the time that image was created, approximately two hours ago now, the arrow was pointing approximately at the sun.

      If you notice the pattern around the magnetic poll, you will see that the least activity appears at approximately the same general location. I suspect this is more because of the fact that the sun is in that direction, and the sky is therefor lit to the point that Aurora are harder to detect.

      -Rusty

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    2. Re:Noon meridian? by locke+baron · · Score: 1

      Probably means the meridian at/near which it is currently noon.

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    3. Re:Noon meridian? by puppet10 · · Score: 1

      Actually the plots are based on the power flux measured by a polar satellite not by direct observation of the aurora so the light level shouldn't affect the measurement. I believe the reason the maximum activity occurs away from the noon meridian is because of the shape of the earth's magnetic field which has a long tail away from the sun because of the solar wind (as seen in this diagram)

      Some additional info on the earth's magnetosphere

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  130. the forgotten quote by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    "Game over, man, game over! What're we gonna do now, huh?"

    I say we take off and nuke the Sun from the Oort Cloud. It's the only way to be sure.

  131. so... by suspect_device · · Score: 1

    i fail to see (*&&gf%kjsdfs how this affects **^#kade' me.

  132. Well... by CFBMoo1 · · Score: 1

    "I have not seen anything like it in my entire career as a solar physicist. The probability of this happening is so low that it is a statistical anomaly,"

    It's nice to know that the space weather people are just as accurate as the local forcast.

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  133. Re:Magnetic North - the Jazz Orchestra, that is. by jbum · · Score: 0

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/jazz/reviews/balke_kyan os.shtml

  134. Don't stare-you may be charged (pun not intended) by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

    In other news, Eolas Technologies Inc, protagonists in the now-famous 'plugins patent case' announce they have ownership rights for Patent 9,999,666 "Coronal Mass Ejections as a source of wonderment and scientific curiosity" and are considering action against any persons found to be in any shape or form 'fascinated' by such phenomena without paying an appropriate fee.

    "We plan to monitor national and international news sites for announcements about the phenomena", a spokesperson for Eolas said. "If a 'northern lights/aurora' event is predicted in a certain geographic area, we may send observers into the district looking for signs of persons peering into the sky and uttering indicative phrases such as "oooh" and "aaah", at which time we will ask to see confirmation that they have visited our prepayment web site (http://www.oohaahwowthatsamazing.con), paid for and downloaded their e-ticket permitting them to watch the event and be impressed. Only in cases where subjects can prove that staring at the phenomena did not cause any feeling of wonderment or in-depth thoughts about the enormity of the universe and the fragility of life will we consider waiving or reducing our demands for payment. A scheme is also in place for the scientific community and if we get notification of anyone so much as waving a thermocouple in the general direction of the sun we will expect our reasonable demands for payment to be met".

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  135. Just waiting by Simple-Simmian · · Score: 1
    I am just waiting for a planet killing flare. They happen. If it does it was nice knowing you.

    Get your tinfoil hats out :-)

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  136. How will this affect me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since right now, I'm now living north of Aurora?

  137. Bingo!! by Phoenix-kun · · Score: 1

    Niven's it is. That's why I love posting here. You can always count on someone to get your obscure references. :)

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    Phoenix
  138. Third one and ..... by mAineAc · · Score: 1

    Still nothing. My cell phone still works cable hass not had a problem. I don't see the big information systems problems happening. These are not things to be worried about. Now if one pops out big enough to singe my nose hairs then maybe we should get worried.

  139. Right here by moonsammy · · Score: 1

    Well it isn't MSNBC, but space.com has a story with that exact headline (thank you google news): Space Storm Hits, Earth Survives

  140. Northern Lights in Scotland by Avalonia · · Score: 1

    We've been watching huge displays of the aurora from Central Scotland - just north of Glasgow and Edinburgh. Very impressive having not seen them before! We first saw them at around 1845 GMT and the display is still good intermittently at 2240 GMT. Huge beams from the zenith to the horizon if you can get away from local light pollution.

  141. Make you wonder.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Earth sure protects us from a lot of rigours of outer space. Go Atmosphere! ^^

  142. Re: Yep. We don't know squat. by Captain+McCrank · · Score: 2, Funny

    Data != Information Over the years, my flatulence may have had varying degrees of strength. It has both pleased and offended many. Some still remember certain spectacular events while others have passed into obscurity. But none of this tells you if I ate a chillidog, nor the quantity. There is no substitue for analysis of directly observed data.

  143. It burns burns burns! by lysium · · Score: 1
    At the risk of sounding stupid, the sun seemed much more intense today. The "painfully bright" zone (as I call it) surrounding it filled a much larger portion of the sky than I am used to.

    Harmlessness of solar flares aside, you can definately catch a tan outside these next few days.....

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    1. Re:It burns burns burns! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i noticed the sun appeared more intense, i figured because it was hazy i couldnt see the circular outline. it was ultra-bright.

  144. Re:NEO DIES AFTER SMITH TAKES HIM OVER,CLONES EXPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HAHAHA,You must've pissed a lot of people off with that comment :P

    I stopped liking the matrix series right at the begining of matrix 2, so I don't mind knowing the end before it gets out.

  145. What he really meant... by NotClever · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "I blame President Bush and his tax cuts!"

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    1. Re:What he really meant... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't blame Bush! Blame Clinton! Bush just inherited this Sun mess from the previous administration!

  146. This happend because of your SUV you captalist pig by Captain+McCrank · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I love pot, Rage Against The Machine, Womyns literature and Che Gurrivera. I George Bush. I heard he gives halliburton blow jobs and taxpayer dollars that he steals from the homeless. E!

  147. solar flares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i for one welcome our new solar flare overlords

  148. What about the comet???? by jefeweiss · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome the alien overlords who are hurling comets at the sun. Even if those fools at NASA claim that it has nothing to do with it.

  149. Good sailing weather.. by Zurgutt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe we should get a craft with solar sail up and waiting asap, for next event? :)

  150. Re:You know... by spacecowboy420 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I really, really hate the jewish mentallity. If the muslims killed others because they considered themselves the "chosen" ones, they would be labeled terrorists -

    - Oh wait.

    Get the fuck over yourselves and live in peace with rest of the world. You are NOT the chosen ones. Noone is for that matter - could you jews and the rest of you religous fanatics get on with your armageddon and get the fuck out of the way of progress? Please?

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  151. Damn Superman!!! He is to blame!! by jameskojiro · · Score: 1, Funny

    Had he not thown all those nuclear weapons at the Sun we wouldn't have the sun attacking us like this.

    "Quest for World Peace" Yeah right!! Now we have angered the sun gods and they will be bombarded by Coronal Mass Ejections for the rest of our lives and eventually the world will look like the moon.

    Thanks a whole lot superman! You freaking alien git!!!

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  152. Is the world ending? by SirChris · · Score: 1

    If were all gonna die, man. I'm gonna grab the hottest chick I see and just do her man. Yeah man. Thats the way to go.

    1. Re:Is the world ending? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the way to go? You mean being shot to death for attempted rape?

      You have a weird sense of "way to go."

  153. Re:Its actually those DAMN Democrats! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And all those Tree Huggers...
    Draining the sun with all those solar collectors!
    Started a siphon effect, and it will go on until we use all that energy , or build back the smog shield to reflect the energy back to the sun.

  154. China makes it to space then... by mek2600 · · Score: 1

    China makes it to space then we start having these solar flares every couple of days... Interesting...

  155. What about satellites? by __aahyqr7907 · · Score: 1

    I wonder what effect, if any, solar flares have on satellites? My dad is staying in the Netherlands for a month, and he hasn?t called me in three days. I wonder if he?s having trouble calling the United States.

  156. Re:one Asimov quote by garyrich · · Score: 2, Informative

    Which is itself a nod from Matt Groening to Asimov's classic short "Nightfall"

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  157. Re:Bingo!! Stephen Baxter ? by garyrich · · Score: 1

    I though first of Stephen Baxter's Manifold Space Novel. He almost certainly got the idea from Niven's short though.

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  158. Geomagetic Pole Flipping and This by torinth · · Score: 1

    Does anyone want to comment on a possible relationship between the flipping of earth's magnetic poles and this kind of activity on the sun?

    After all, rumor has it that we're about 500,000 years overdue for a pole-flip, no? And this activity is probably operating on a different cycle than our 11-year solar model. Could there be a connection?

    1. Re:Geomagetic Pole Flipping and This by tomem · · Score: 1

      The Earth doesn't really influence the Sun, but when our magnetic field flips, it goes through a period with the magnetic poles sticking out near the equator, and a much weaker than normal magnetic field. The solar wind will come closer to the upper atmosphere, perhaps into it, and the auroras will appear as haloes centered on those equatorial magnetic poles, so that they will be seen at middle to lower latitudes. Should make quite a light show over populated areas, at the very least.

      Magnetic navigation will be problematic. The Earth will be unprotected by a magnetic field, like Venus, and there should be some interesting storm effects when the Sun gets active, though not much has been done to study or predict this to date. Don't believe what you see in the movie "The Core".

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    2. Re:Geomagetic Pole Flipping and This by torinth · · Score: 1

      I meant to ask whether this activity might be a precursor to a flip in our magnetic field.

    3. Re:Geomagetic Pole Flipping and This by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't believe what you see in the movie "The Core".

      What, you mean we won't all be "literally cooked" by the sun's microwave radiation when the poles flip? I was looking forward to making microwave popcorn without having to use the microwave.

  159. The Sun is broken by kitzilla · · Score: 1

    Mark my words. Or mark Nostradamus': http://www.earthchangestv.com/predict/nostrabobus/ 0221sun.htm ;-)

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  160. Another Kohl quote--less chilling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John Kohl also had another quote, recited here at Canadian news agency CJAD [ http://www3.cjad.com/content/cjad_news/article.asp ?id=w103069A]
    He was quoted as commenting thusly:
    " Kohl said he's not aware of any other time since at least 1976 that two such large solar storms have been directed toward Earth in the space of two days."

    So,, it would appear that this happened before, in 1976, indicating that this is not so unprecedented.

  161. *Yawn* must be a city dweller in his 20's. by Clippy · · Score: 1, Funny

    You may *yawn*, but obviously you don't live up here in the Pacific Northwest, where the O.B. in the sky has brought back flashbacks from collage acid trips, and without drugs!

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    1. Re:*Yawn* must be a city dweller in his 20's. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      where the O.B. in the sky
      O.B? Is that Orrery Borealis?
  162. Whole in his model? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >>he knows that this indicates a whole in his model

    Is this some ancient Celtic definition of whole I don't know about or something?

  163. Can plasma change Earth's orbit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Plasma has mass, right, and its moving past the Earth at 1 million miles/hour (give or take a few hundred K). Could the Earth be pushed into a higher orbit around the Sun? Even a few miles would screw up the clocks. A few hundred miles might cure global warming. -bill

    1. Re:Can plasma change Earth's orbit? by InvaderXimian · · Score: 1
      Pick a unit of measurement and stick with it, or at least provide your conversions for miles and kilometers. Earth cannot be pushed into higher orbit because this plasma has very little mass (actually alot compared to other things) and cannot make much of a difference. The force of the Sun pulling Earth towards itself and Earths inertia is far greater than a bit of plasma.

      Do you even know that Earth and other planets have elliptical orbits? That means there are two points (the sun and something else) that Earth (and others) orbit around, thus its not a perfect circle. At periphelion (time when planet is closest to the Sun) Earth is only 147 million kilometers away. At aphelion (farthest away from Sun) its 152 million kilometers away. That 93 million miles/149 million km /1AU is just a mean (average) number.

      Go back to middle school and take an astronomy class, it'll be quite enlightening.

    2. Re:Can plasma change Earth's orbit? by tomem · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There isn't enough force developed to make a perceptible change in our orbit, even over geologic time.

      However, hundreds of tons of our upper atmosphere is ejected into space and, to some degree, carried off downstream in the solar wind, during these events. So, a small part of our planet has it's orbit profoundly altered by these events. The loss rate is modest and partly compensated by acquired material from dust and meteorites. But this could influence atmospheric composition over geologic time. The plume coming from Venus has been detected near Earth.

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  164. Afternoon where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    as early as Thursday (Oct. 30th) afternoon

    Last I checked there were some 24 time zones.

  165. Dumb question by A55M0NKEY · · Score: 1
    Ok, usually I know the answers to this kind of question, but I'll ask it because I have no idea:

    The Earth's magnetic field is caused by the flow of mag-ma underground. Can disturbing the magnetic field in space exert a sizable force on this magma possibly causing lavos to escape and destroy the planet unless Chrono Trigger saves the day?

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  166. Aurora activity RIGHT NOW! by goodmanj · · Score: 1

    Northern lights are currently visible in New England. They're bright, vivid, and right overhead, so they ought to be visible much farther south as well.

    1. Re:Aurora activity RIGHT NOW! by tomem · · Score: 1

      Big bright red aurora was filling the northern sky in the DC area, just a while ago, around 7-8pm EST. There were some weak rays aligned with the magnetic field, pointing toward the northern horizon.

      The most equatorward auroras tend to be diffuse and red, produced by low energy electrons kicked up by more eneregetic ions precipitating into the atmosphere from the inner magnetosphere.

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  167. expect more by Lepruhkawn · · Score: 1

    Expect more large flares due to solar warming.

    No one listens to me but global warming is due to an increase in the Sun's output. Not abuse of our environment.

    When the Earth starts frying, you all will wish for the glory days of beautiful auroras and I will be smug. Dead. But smug.

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  168. MOD PARENT UP +5 Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahaha... that's the funniest thing I've seen all day.

  169. ooooh.. puuuuurty! by RiscIt · · Score: 1

    FYI - We got quite the show this evening in western Maine! started around 6:15.. lasted until around 7:45ish... I hadn't read anything in advance so it was quite the treat. Fortunatly we live far enough outside of any heavily-lighted area that we could see it very well.

  170. I remember from my science class by annisette · · Score: 1

    that the energy created in the center of the sun takes a million years to reach the surface of the sun. Could the process of solar flares be this complex or is there a seperate weather system in or on the sun's surface? My guess is the several layers of the sun play a part with the surface the majority of changes needed for a flare,then there is gravity,metallic helium(correct me on this if needed),a pound or two of liqid plasma. Or is it just the transfer of the energy to empty space that creates these storms(I like this idea), I would like to say the solar storm(s) made me smarter but I have to stop now, any thoughts?

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  171. Price Wars? by t0ny · · Score: 1
    Does all this surplus plasma being thrown around mean an imminent price drop 50" Widescreen Plasma HDTV Monitors?

    You will be mine, oh yes, you will be mine...

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  172. well now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Southern california burning to the ground, a Lochead Martin and Lear report the sun is dying, the universe is 16.6 Billion years old, flat and time doesn't exist. Combined with : organic computers, a new chemical to stop sleep, new govener in cali, and a brown holl found "close" to the solar system. Does this count as a bad day to be a traditional scientist?

  173. Nope, it will act as an antenna (n/t) by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 1

    Doh!

  174. Taco Bell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK, who fed the sun some taco bell?

  175. 100% Overrated by H8X55 · · Score: 1

    i, persoanlly would like to take this oppertunity to welcome our new solar overlords.

  176. Smallville by xmda · · Score: 1

    Is it a coincidence that this weeks eposiode of Smallville was about a major solar flare that disturbed Clark's powers? Spooky!

  177. Sun running late? by hughk · · Score: 1

    It seems that the cycle isn't as regular as some people think, although it has been 11 years before, all we are talking about is probably a turbulant flow pattern within the Sun itself. Such activity can appear regular for extended periods and then suddenly change.

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  178. Re:Join us, brothers in jihad! by Zeriel · · Score: 1

    ...I fail to see how damaging Slashdot further will help fix any of the problems you attribute to Slashdot.

    But, of course, this is just another repetitive troll group in the guise of anarchist "freedom fighters" for a "less repressive Slashdot".

    If any of you groups had an original troll, it might be worth doing, but the fake account/goatse/"troll database" stuff makes you just another (GNAA|Trollkore|M00kore) wannabe.

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  179. What? by Tukla · · Score: 1

    Deedee must be in the laboratory again.

  180. Re:Someone mod his cloaked spoiler post please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, or maybe you shouldn't have said anything because I wondered what you were talking about and re-read AC's post a little more closely and got fucked.

    Don't read that post. Christ, what an asshead.

  181. Mount St. Helens by John+Jorsett · · Score: 1

    That reminds me of the 80-something guy who was living on the side of Mount St. Helens. Despite the warnings of scientists, he didn't feel the need to leave, since he'd been there most of his life and nothing had ever happened. Blooie.

  182. The real cause by Scaebor · · Score: 1

    This is all a result of global warming.

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