people forget that the events of 9/11 did not happen from a break down in security they were organized and carried out with items that were allowed. Security has lost the point, a weapon is not just something that is sharp and pointed it is intent. Take a look at your desk and think about how many items you have there that could inflict sever bodily harm. There needs to be a major reform in not only security, but the attitude that security is carried out with.
People wo think that statistics are the straight truth are idiots. This is just a further example of how one can easily manipulate numbers to prove a point. Simpel you take the number of downloaded movies, and divide by the number of people online, and you could create a stat that justifies this claim, or just look at subsection like china and be like everyone has pirated software on thier computer so therefore everyone must be pirating worldwide.
I look forward to any possibility of getting bbc programing here in the states. I think they have excelent programing, and only wish we could get the same quality for what i pay for cable.
I hope that apple will stop this one in its tracks. The big dogs need to play by the rules just like how the RIAA forces all the little people to. I personally think that Real just madea big mistake and that this will have big fallout for them.
will this become a trend, is residential phone service diminishing in value to such phone companies. we all know about how cell phones are becoming a our primary way of communicating (not that this is a good thing), will these companies give up on us and just focus in on business solutions?
ITs getting to a point that Microsoft is going to have a patent on everything. THis isnt a groundbreaking idea or concept, there needs to be reforms in how patents are given out. What next we going to see someone patent the idea of having an input device onto a computer?
Well since it is a 33 page read, how about the link to the end where the conclusions are.
Conclusion The Winner
and for those too lazy to click Conclusion
So there we have it, 18 different types of memory benchmarked to within an inch of their life and to prove what? Well, one thing we've proved is that while even value memory may offer sustained levels of high speed operation, when you want to make it to the scary end of the spectrum above 250MHz you generally need to pay the price premium associated with "enthusiast" modules. Cheaper stuff may get you close, but at the very high-end we're afraid you really do get what you pay for.
If you're happy to settle for fast rather than fastest, it seems that reputations and price tags count for little in this game. Good chips on a poorly designed PCB and poor chips on a great PCB will both leave you wanting. And even if you have the best and fastest memory on the planet you still need a motherboard that can do it justice.
Evaluating performance at more reasonable frequencies is slightly easier, but also slightly fuzzier. Some of the benchmark results varied so widely that it was hard to understand what was really going on, and with various tests favouring different attributes and the surprisingly similar stock performance from many of the modules on test, it was almost an exercise in identifying the "Top Dogs", the "Turkeys" and "The Rest".
We hope you enjoyed this roundup and gleaned at least some information from the effort that went into it. As we hope you've seen, or will see when you glance through the benchmark results, memory is a very complex subject and pinning it down in performance terms isn't as simple as you might imagine. We won't let that stop us trying though.
Finally we'll pick out some winners. Remember that for our purposes, overclocking is more a pleasant bonus than an essential feature, and though we have made allowance for overclocking performance it hasn't been given the same weight that it might have been given were we writing this roundup purely for enthusiasts.
Finally, benchmarks do a great job of highlighting strengths and weaknesses in products but it's important to keep things in perspective. Most of us would not notice any tangible performance differences between even the fastest and slowest modules on test here when run at the processor's default speed unless we were specifically looking for them. That's not to say that faster isn't better, it's just not as critical as some would have us believe.
The Winners
Value Editor's Choice - TwinMOS PC4000 CL2.5
Concerns over availability make us a little nervous about handing the value crown to TwinMOS, but we can't argue with the numbers and this is quite simply the fastest memory for the money that we had the pleasure of testing. We only hope the poor availability isn't due to production constraints and look forward to seeing more retailers pick up on what appears to be a very nice product.
Value Recommended - Buffalo PC3200 CL3
We may have had little experience with Buffalo before this roundup but both of the Buffalo modules we were sent acquitted themselves well in testing. For the most part, performance levels in the value group contenders were quite evenly matched but Buffalo did enough to scrape onto our leader board. A very impressive all-round showing earns Buffalo a well-deserved Recommended award.
High-End Editor's Choice - Corsair TwinX1024-3200XL Pro
Perhaps the toughest choice of all, we eventually opted for Corsair's 3200XL Pro for its shear arrogance. While far from cheap, it consistently set the standards for stock performance while flashing a knowing LED at the competition as it did so. For a change we see a product with a bite every bit as bad as its bark.
YOu can send text messages to a cell phone from an e-mail. Usually you have younumber@vtext.com (Verizon) or soemthign like that. So it is really cheap to send them out, just another e-amil address for the spammers to add to their list.
I think that we will quickly see law suits being filed over this, similar to the one we saw to fax.com. Many cellular companies charge for receiving text messages, and it would be a violation of FCC regulations to initiate such ads when the recipiant is being charged for them. (Also it is illegal for a telemarketer to call a cell phone, because of the charge ensued from having to use minutes).
if this was that easy i doubt that they would have the DARPA challege Your not going to get anythign easily to do this. I recomend you take the time to do it yourself, it would be good exercise too. Sometimes there something to be said about doing things manually.
gun tips if you go.
1. Know how to use your gun
2. Keep it loaded
3. Dont bother with a safety
4. Evil guy comes at you aim at his chest
5. Pull trigger
6. ????
7. Profit
yeah but thats not the trend, basically buy techonology to replace the efforts of officers. This way they can cut back their budgets. So give us a couple years and all our speeding tickets are going to be electronically computer by sensors on the side of the road, and you whereabouts will be tracked 24/7
If you want true security build a seperate netowrk indipendant of the internet and stream it over that. Physical security will beat software secuirty anyday.
you can always dial 911 on an phone line that gives you a signal (even if y ou dont havea phone contract) and can also dial 911 on any cell phone (as long as the thing works) even if it doesn have a plan.
i wouldnt go as far as to say cellular is that reliable. Internet bogs down, your VOIP going to have some problems, during peek hours getting a connection to a cell tower is going to be difficult. You throw any type of emergency into the equation cell towers are almost useless since everyone is on their phone. Internet is still a little more reliable there (from what we have seen so far, yet to be proven). I personally still have a POTS at home and plan on staying that way until VOIP has some of the small issues worked out (like what happens when the power goes out, my POTs still works but my VOIP dead in the water.) just my 2 cents worth. (oh and i have a cell phone too which i use for 99% of my communications)
Basically if you have the option of only picking the stations you want to watch, many good networks are going to disappear because people dont routinely watch them, and only watch them when they have specials on.
If i were to ask you to list all the channels you would pay for, would you forget one that you like but only occasionally watch?
this is a huige concern right now in the medical field where there is a trend to outsource your patient records. Transcriptionist in other countries work with your chart and most of your data is stored in a mixture of here and there (really hard to say where anything really is thanks to the internet). But the challenge is if there becomes an issue about privacy or good old HIPPA. Well the hospital subcontracted out this job, to a company who subsequently subcontracted it out, so who is responsible. Not only does american companies only have privacy practices they do everything in their power to make it so they can blame someone else if there is a problem.
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people forget that the events of 9/11 did not happen from a break down in security they were organized and carried out with items that were allowed. Security has lost the point, a weapon is not just something that is sharp and pointed it is intent. Take a look at your desk and think about how many items you have there that could inflict sever bodily harm. There needs to be a major reform in not only security, but the attitude that security is carried out with.
People wo think that statistics are the straight truth are idiots. This is just a further example of how one can easily manipulate numbers to prove a point. Simpel you take the number of downloaded movies, and divide by the number of people online, and you could create a stat that justifies this claim, or just look at subsection like china and be like everyone has pirated software on thier computer so therefore everyone must be pirating worldwide.
I look forward to any possibility of getting bbc programing here in the states. I think they have excelent programing, and only wish we could get the same quality for what i pay for cable.
if microsoft did this they go bankrupt in a week
obligatory jab at microsoft
or maybe there is good still in him and we can sway him back to the good side of the force
I hope that apple will stop this one in its tracks. The big dogs need to play by the rules just like how the RIAA forces all the little people to. I personally think that Real just madea big mistake and that this will have big fallout for them.
will this become a trend, is residential phone service diminishing in value to such phone companies. we all know about how cell phones are becoming a our primary way of communicating (not that this is a good thing), will these companies give up on us and just focus in on business solutions?
ITs getting to a point that Microsoft is going to have a patent on everything. THis isnt a groundbreaking idea or concept, there needs to be reforms in how patents are given out. What next we going to see someone patent the idea of having an input device onto a computer?
Well since it is a 33 page read, how about the link to the end where the conclusions are.
Conclusion
The Winner
and for those too lazy to click
Conclusion
So there we have it, 18 different types of memory benchmarked to within an inch of their life and to prove what? Well, one thing we've proved is that while even value memory may offer sustained levels of high speed operation, when you want to make it to the scary end of the spectrum above 250MHz you generally need to pay the price premium associated with "enthusiast" modules. Cheaper stuff may get you close, but at the very high-end we're afraid you really do get what you pay for.
If you're happy to settle for fast rather than fastest, it seems that reputations and price tags count for little in this game. Good chips on a poorly designed PCB and poor chips on a great PCB will both leave you wanting. And even if you have the best and fastest memory on the planet you still need a motherboard that can do it justice.
Evaluating performance at more reasonable frequencies is slightly easier, but also slightly fuzzier. Some of the benchmark results varied so widely that it was hard to understand what was really going on, and with various tests favouring different attributes and the surprisingly similar stock performance from many of the modules on test, it was almost an exercise in identifying the "Top Dogs", the "Turkeys" and "The Rest".
We hope you enjoyed this roundup and gleaned at least some information from the effort that went into it. As we hope you've seen, or will see when you glance through the benchmark results, memory is a very complex subject and pinning it down in performance terms isn't as simple as you might imagine. We won't let that stop us trying though.
Finally we'll pick out some winners. Remember that for our purposes, overclocking is more a pleasant bonus than an essential feature, and though we have made allowance for overclocking performance it hasn't been given the same weight that it might have been given were we writing this roundup purely for enthusiasts.
Finally, benchmarks do a great job of highlighting strengths and weaknesses in products but it's important to keep things in perspective. Most of us would not notice any tangible performance differences between even the fastest and slowest modules on test here when run at the processor's default speed unless we were specifically looking for them. That's not to say that faster isn't better, it's just not as critical as some would have us believe.
The Winners
Value Editor's Choice - TwinMOS PC4000 CL2.5
Concerns over availability make us a little nervous about handing the value crown to TwinMOS, but we can't argue with the numbers and this is quite simply the fastest memory for the money that we had the pleasure of testing. We only hope the poor availability isn't due to production constraints and look forward to seeing more retailers pick up on what appears to be a very nice product.
Value Recommended - Buffalo PC3200 CL3
We may have had little experience with Buffalo before this roundup but both of the Buffalo modules we were sent acquitted themselves well in testing. For the most part, performance levels in the value group contenders were quite evenly matched but Buffalo did enough to scrape onto our leader board. A very impressive all-round showing earns Buffalo a well-deserved Recommended award.
High-End Editor's Choice - Corsair TwinX1024-3200XL Pro
Perhaps the toughest choice of all, we eventually opted for Corsair's 3200XL Pro for its shear arrogance. While far from cheap, it consistently set the standards for stock performance while flashing a knowing LED at the competition as it did so. For a change we see a product with a bite every bit as bad as its bark.
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dont forget the diets that some people may have to go through to fit into their suits or dresses
YOu can send text messages to a cell phone from an e-mail. Usually you have younumber@vtext.com (Verizon) or soemthign like that. So it is really cheap to send them out, just another e-amil address for the spammers to add to their list.
I think that we will quickly see law suits being filed over this, similar to the one we saw to fax.com. Many cellular companies charge for receiving text messages, and it would be a violation of FCC regulations to initiate such ads when the recipiant is being charged for them. (Also it is illegal for a telemarketer to call a cell phone, because of the charge ensued from having to use minutes).
if this was that easy i doubt that they would have the DARPA challege Your not going to get anythign easily to do this. I recomend you take the time to do it yourself, it would be good exercise too. Sometimes there something to be said about doing things manually.
yes privacy, because yahoo on the bottom of there pages says it collects personal info, but they do it for a good reason i bet and google doesnt
well untill they create warp drives and meet the race of vulcans. But thats a couple years down the line... SO GO Mike Melvill !!!
gun tips if you go.
1. Know how to use your gun
2. Keep it loaded
3. Dont bother with a safety
4. Evil guy comes at you aim at his chest
5. Pull trigger
6. ????
7. Profit
yeah but thats not the trend, basically buy techonology to replace the efforts of officers. This way they can cut back their budgets. So give us a couple years and all our speeding tickets are going to be electronically computer by sensors on the side of the road, and you whereabouts will be tracked 24/7
If you want true security build a seperate netowrk indipendant of the internet and stream it over that. Physical security will beat software secuirty anyday.
I cant wait for the letter I will be getting from my ISP about how I am abusing my internet connection and using more than I should be.
that the mafia has gotten with the times, and now are providing services fitting for our times.
no argument that cellular is cheaper, just my line of business i need reliability.
Just also how i have a 3 day supply of food, batteries, and the reliable M4.
you can always dial 911 on an phone line that gives you a signal (even if y ou dont havea phone contract) and can also dial 911 on any cell phone (as long as the thing works) even if it doesn have a plan.
i wouldnt go as far as to say cellular is that reliable. Internet bogs down, your VOIP going to have some problems, during peek hours getting a connection to a cell tower is going to be difficult. You throw any type of emergency into the equation cell towers are almost useless since everyone is on their phone. Internet is still a little more reliable there (from what we have seen so far, yet to be proven). I personally still have a POTS at home and plan on staying that way until VOIP has some of the small issues worked out (like what happens when the power goes out, my POTs still works but my VOIP dead in the water.) just my 2 cents worth. (oh and i have a cell phone too which i use for 99% of my communications)
Basically if you have the option of only picking the stations you want to watch, many good networks are going to disappear because people dont routinely watch them, and only watch them when they have specials on.
If i were to ask you to list all the channels you would pay for, would you forget one that you like but only occasionally watch?
this is a huige concern right now in the medical field where there is a trend to outsource your patient records. Transcriptionist in other countries work with your chart and most of your data is stored in a mixture of here and there (really hard to say where anything really is thanks to the internet). But the challenge is if there becomes an issue about privacy or good old HIPPA. Well the hospital subcontracted out this job, to a company who subsequently subcontracted it out, so who is responsible. Not only does american companies only have privacy practices they do everything in their power to make it so they can blame someone else if there is a problem.