If by "lower prices to the consumer" you mean "more profit for the company", and by "raise the locals out of poverty", you mean "foreign interests will buy up all the land and kick the people off of it, or pay them a pittance to work it", then yes, you are 100% correct.
If you're starting from scratch, by all means go with Linux and do it now instead of later. If you have to support an old system, you can't just ignore the cost of rewriting scripts, macros, and so on into their format. If you communicate with other companies or entities, and they have their own Microsoft-centric practices, you either have to find a way to handle them or stop doing business with them. Both cost $$$.
The reason this issue gets argued back and forth forever is because so many people think there is only one right answer. In any business situation especially, *all* factors must be considered not just the long-term benefits, or the short-term costs.
The world don't move to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you may not be right for some. You take the good, you take the bad, you take em both and there you have.. my slashdot post. Sit ubu sit. Good dog.
Our company did the exact same thing when Clones came out, except it was more like a bribe to try to get us not to report the fact that they were once again not making payroll on payday, and we're all left to hope our checks don't bounce, etc.
It's just interesting to me that people who got addicted to Star Wars when they were kids, despite (or maybe because of) its hackneyed acting and 1930s pulp inspired plot, can get older, lose all touch with that childlike sense of wonder, and feel betrayed by the same hackneyed acting and pulp plots that they grew up loving.
PS - I am a huge Star Wars fan. I say, enjoy things for what they are. Star Wars still appeals greatly both to the young and to the young at heart. I am very happily in that second category.
These shorts are further proof of the stupidity of George Lucas. Cartoons are for kids. Star Wars is for jaded, nit-picky former kids who squashed all sense of adventure, imagination and wonder the day they decided they were cooler than everyone else.
I can't RTFA as it is/.ed. I will say this though. The Final Fantasy franchise will win my heart back (it's been lost since 8) when they release a game where you have more than three people in a combat. I know VII only had 3 characters at a time active, but the awesome materia system and the great story made up for it. X was obnoxious because the bulk of gameplay seemed to revolve around juggling characters in and out and making sure everyone gets a hit.
Final Fantasy has lost a lot of the tactical flair that made it great. I think the storylines have gone to crap too but that's just a personal opinion.
Since communists are a subset of fascists, how can they be enemies?
Communism is not a subset of fascism. In fact they're the two opposite sides of a spectrum. Communism esposes collective ownership for everyone while fascism espouses absolute ownership (and rulership) by one person or party.
You forget that Nazi Germany was a dictatorship. The government had 100% control of business.
As opposed to here, where business is getting closer and closer to 100% control of the government.
I took two years worth of C classes in college. However, I don't program in C now. I script in PHP and have worked professionally on many large business sites, but I'm sure that's beneath your respect (which I really don't care about). I have a friend who writes microcode for IBM and he's basically of the same philosophy as myself. And I've "hung out" with many programmers. Not all programmers are pricks.
As for your analogy, it's cute but I don't see how it pertains to the conversation you tacked it onto. I can only imagine you consider the people who keep the programmers' computers, and the services they depend on to do their job, running to be akin to a janitor. Network admins usually get paid a little bit more than janitors, so businesses disagree. Secondly, I respect the janitor who does a good job keeping things clean, and there's no reason you shouldn't except for snobbery. You certainly shouldn't act like you know more about cleaning up than a janitor does, because if you're like most programmers I've met (myself included), you sure as hell don't.
Yep, thats the way it works. I dont crawl around on the floor plugging shit in and getting dirty.
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They're just added beurocracy for the computer world, and I work to replace them each and every day with more sophisticated self-administrating softwares.
If you don't know how to crawl around on the floor plugging shit in and getting dirty, you do not have the perspective necessary to write software to replace the people who do. The best programmers are not arrogantly disconnected from the people in the trenches, especially if they're working on software directed towards their field. A good programmer needs at least to know what people commonly need support about in order to address it in future software. If your CTO is as out of touch and disconnected as you, I pity your fellow employees.
You're also a poor team player, which is a liability to you and your career unless you work solo. You're also incredibly stuck up and elitist, which unfortunately probably actually helps your career. You're also way off base: you obviously consider yourself "above" the type of people who enjoyed this article, and your comments have been way more of an advertisment of yourself than anything to do with the issue. Why don't you drop out of this conversation and let the high school kids who spend all day plugging shit in enjoy it. Believe it or not, there are a lot more nerds in high schools than in high-paying programming positions. That being the case, this site should have more stories about them than you.
Even if (like me) you think Mozilla Firebird (the browser) still needs time and effort before it can replace Mozilla or compete with other browers, you should give Thunderbird a try. My opinion of firebird thus far has been very lackluster even though I'm sure it will be great one day, but I'm a hardcore Thunderbird enthusiast since 0.1 and 0.2 loads so much faster (my biggest complaint with 0.1, which still seemed to load faster than other mail client, probably OE, and certainly Mozilla's current mail client and Eudora).
Do you really think it's cheaper to buy, say, 100 licenses when only one is necessary than to take that one person who needs the license, figure out what it would take to migrate that user from a license-locked platform to an open platform, and perform that migration? I'm not just talking about the short-term costs of buying the software (though that would be a chunk just by itself) but also the cost over time of free updates vs. buying new products, submitting to new licenses, agreeing to more draconian terms (including the right to do things like snoop on your computer and potentially cause uncalcuable damage), and bending over whenever Microsoft decides to change to a subscription service for which you pay a recurring fee for each license?
You might want to consider what percentage of stock shares are held by what percentage of people before you go saying stuff like "corporations are owned by we the people" because in actuality the power is consolidated into very few sets of hands.
Monarchy is the wrong word. This is just more of America's rich getting richer off the backs of everyone else, and leveraging all the powers of the status quo (such as the legal system) to squeeze more money out of the people.
Of course, everyone who thinks Microsoft is the most evil monopolistic company ever should look at the people who owned railroads and coal mines.
Your objections are totally valid. This holds especially true for a site whose readers are so vehemently against FUD campaigns and using disinformation to smear rivals. I don't care about spelling and grammar, though such things are nice especially when the errors get in the way of understanding the issue at hand (the only real reason to become anal-retentive about spelling and grammar), but I do care about the authenticity of the stories I read on here, especially when these facts are easily verifiable by reading the article (something many slashdot readers are chastised for not doing before posting). Of course, if verification and metaverification works as well as moderation and metamoderation, I'd almost rather stick to the collective skills of the editors.:)
I didn't and wouldn't. I said that unethical businesspeople take advantage of corporations, not that corporations are composed of unethical businesspeople. Not wanting someone to sue you personally for slipping in your business has nothing to do with the kinds of abuses I am talking about.
Because a share of Sony or Time Warner will not give you access to their library of copyrighted materials. The bogus corp would allow its shareholders (limited owners) full access to the assets of the company (the library of music) whereas owning a share of Sony stock does not give you full access to the assests of their company.
If they're going to set themselves up as "competing" with Kazaa, they might as well give up now. It's a little difficult to compete with free unlimited use on any computer.
I have to think that only people who don't know about Kazaa, or who have ethical reservations about using systems such as Kazaa, will be patrons of this service.
Unethical businessfolk have always used the idea of incorporating as a way to shield themselves personally from the legal liabilities of their companies. How clever and ironic now that the same institution which shields these people from legal liability, the same institutions which have subverted our legal system through the judicious (pardon the pun) use of money and lawyers, now could stand to be used to shield file traders from this corporate-driven legal system gone mad.
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Does that mean we get to fuck diseases out of existence? Sexually transmitted diseases call for sexually transmitted cures.
If by "lower prices to the consumer" you mean "more profit for the company", and by "raise the locals out of poverty", you mean "foreign interests will buy up all the land and kick the people off of it, or pay them a pittance to work it", then yes, you are 100% correct.
If you're starting from scratch, by all means go with Linux and do it now instead of later. If you have to support an old system, you can't just ignore the cost of rewriting scripts, macros, and so on into their format. If you communicate with other companies or entities, and they have their own Microsoft-centric practices, you either have to find a way to handle them or stop doing business with them. Both cost $$$.
The reason this issue gets argued back and forth forever is because so many people think there is only one right answer. In any business situation especially, *all* factors must be considered not just the long-term benefits, or the short-term costs.
The world don't move to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you may not be right for some. You take the good, you take the bad, you take em both and there you have.. my slashdot post. Sit ubu sit. Good dog.
Don't put too much faith in SAT scores. You will become much more skilled in talking out of your ass in college. :)
It means: governments and regulations are irrelevant because big business calls the shots now.
Friends like these, huh Gary?
This battle robot sounds like the insidious work of Violet.
Our company did the exact same thing when Clones came out, except it was more like a bribe to try to get us not to report the fact that they were once again not making payroll on payday, and we're all left to hope our checks don't bounce, etc.
Ah, the joy of era 2002 dot-coms.
Sorry, I was trying too hard to be funny. :)
It's just interesting to me that people who got addicted to Star Wars when they were kids, despite (or maybe because of) its hackneyed acting and 1930s pulp inspired plot, can get older, lose all touch with that childlike sense of wonder, and feel betrayed by the same hackneyed acting and pulp plots that they grew up loving.
PS - I am a huge Star Wars fan. I say, enjoy things for what they are. Star Wars still appeals greatly both to the young and to the young at heart. I am very happily in that second category.
These shorts are further proof of the stupidity of George Lucas. Cartoons are for kids. Star Wars is for jaded, nit-picky former kids who squashed all sense of adventure, imagination and wonder the day they decided they were cooler than everyone else.
When will you learn, George?!
I can't RTFA as it is /.ed. I will say this though. The Final Fantasy franchise will win my heart back (it's been lost since 8) when they release a game where you have more than three people in a combat. I know VII only had 3 characters at a time active, but the awesome materia system and the great story made up for it. X was obnoxious because the bulk of gameplay seemed to revolve around juggling characters in and out and making sure everyone gets a hit.
Final Fantasy has lost a lot of the tactical flair that made it great. I think the storylines have gone to crap too but that's just a personal opinion.
Since communists are a subset of fascists, how can they be enemies?
Communism is not a subset of fascism. In fact they're the two opposite sides of a spectrum. Communism esposes collective ownership for everyone while fascism espouses absolute ownership (and rulership) by one person or party.
You forget that Nazi Germany was a dictatorship. The government had 100% control of business.
As opposed to here, where business is getting closer and closer to 100% control of the government.
When one party rules the legislative, executive and the judicial, one rarely needs a veto.
I took two years worth of C classes in college. However, I don't program in C now. I script in PHP and have worked professionally on many large business sites, but I'm sure that's beneath your respect (which I really don't care about). I have a friend who writes microcode for IBM and he's basically of the same philosophy as myself. And I've "hung out" with many programmers. Not all programmers are pricks.
As for your analogy, it's cute but I don't see how it pertains to the conversation you tacked it onto. I can only imagine you consider the people who keep the programmers' computers, and the services they depend on to do their job, running to be akin to a janitor. Network admins usually get paid a little bit more than janitors, so businesses disagree. Secondly, I respect the janitor who does a good job keeping things clean, and there's no reason you shouldn't except for snobbery. You certainly shouldn't act like you know more about cleaning up than a janitor does, because if you're like most programmers I've met (myself included), you sure as hell don't.
Yep, thats the way it works. I dont crawl around on the floor plugging shit in and getting dirty.
...
They're just added beurocracy for the computer world, and I work to replace them each and every day with more sophisticated self-administrating softwares.
If you don't know how to crawl around on the floor plugging shit in and getting dirty, you do not have the perspective necessary to write software to replace the people who do. The best programmers are not arrogantly disconnected from the people in the trenches, especially if they're working on software directed towards their field. A good programmer needs at least to know what people commonly need support about in order to address it in future software. If your CTO is as out of touch and disconnected as you, I pity your fellow employees.
You're also a poor team player, which is a liability to you and your career unless you work solo. You're also incredibly stuck up and elitist, which unfortunately probably actually helps your career. You're also way off base: you obviously consider yourself "above" the type of people who enjoyed this article, and your comments have been way more of an advertisment of yourself than anything to do with the issue. Why don't you drop out of this conversation and let the high school kids who spend all day plugging shit in enjoy it. Believe it or not, there are a lot more nerds in high schools than in high-paying programming positions. That being the case, this site should have more stories about them than you.
Lots of us.
Even if (like me) you think Mozilla Firebird (the browser) still needs time and effort before it can replace Mozilla or compete with other browers, you should give Thunderbird a try. My opinion of firebird thus far has been very lackluster even though I'm sure it will be great one day, but I'm a hardcore Thunderbird enthusiast since 0.1 and 0.2 loads so much faster (my biggest complaint with 0.1, which still seemed to load faster than other mail client, probably OE, and certainly Mozilla's current mail client and Eudora).
Do you really think it's cheaper to buy, say, 100 licenses when only one is necessary than to take that one person who needs the license, figure out what it would take to migrate that user from a license-locked platform to an open platform, and perform that migration? I'm not just talking about the short-term costs of buying the software (though that would be a chunk just by itself) but also the cost over time of free updates vs. buying new products, submitting to new licenses, agreeing to more draconian terms (including the right to do things like snoop on your computer and potentially cause uncalcuable damage), and bending over whenever Microsoft decides to change to a subscription service for which you pay a recurring fee for each license?
I don't.
You might want to consider what percentage of stock shares are held by what percentage of people before you go saying stuff like "corporations are owned by we the people" because in actuality the power is consolidated into very few sets of hands.
Monarchy is the wrong word. This is just more of America's rich getting richer off the backs of everyone else, and leveraging all the powers of the status quo (such as the legal system) to squeeze more money out of the people.
Of course, everyone who thinks Microsoft is the most evil monopolistic company ever should look at the people who owned railroads and coal mines.
Damn those charities!
Your objections are totally valid. This holds especially true for a site whose readers are so vehemently against FUD campaigns and using disinformation to smear rivals. I don't care about spelling and grammar, though such things are nice especially when the errors get in the way of understanding the issue at hand (the only real reason to become anal-retentive about spelling and grammar), but I do care about the authenticity of the stories I read on here, especially when these facts are easily verifiable by reading the article (something many slashdot readers are chastised for not doing before posting). Of course, if verification and metaverification works as well as moderation and metamoderation, I'd almost rather stick to the collective skills of the editors. :)
And here it is.
I didn't and wouldn't. I said that unethical businesspeople take advantage of corporations, not that corporations are composed of unethical businesspeople. Not wanting someone to sue you personally for slipping in your business has nothing to do with the kinds of abuses I am talking about.
Because a share of Sony or Time Warner will not give you access to their library of copyrighted materials. The bogus corp would allow its shareholders (limited owners) full access to the assets of the company (the library of music) whereas owning a share of Sony stock does not give you full access to the assests of their company.
IANAL.
If they're going to set themselves up as "competing" with Kazaa, they might as well give up now. It's a little difficult to compete with free unlimited use on any computer.
I have to think that only people who don't know about Kazaa, or who have ethical reservations about using systems such as Kazaa, will be patrons of this service.
Unethical businessfolk have always used the idea of incorporating as a way to shield themselves personally from the legal liabilities of their companies. How clever and ironic now that the same institution which shields these people from legal liability, the same institutions which have subverted our legal system through the judicious (pardon the pun) use of money and lawyers, now could stand to be used to shield file traders from this corporate-driven legal system gone mad.