1) The installer for these "codecs" is probably what installs the spyware, not the codec itself. So unless you ran the installer on wine I don't really see how you could install the codecs. And if you did install it on wine, there's no gaurantee the spyware would be able to run on wine and it would be rather strange to see an instance of wine running even after the installer is finished.
2) If the codecs are simply in a zip file and the spyware is embedded in the DLL then the spyware part of the codec will make calls that mplayer's environment will not likely provide it.
A person below your post said that this was the dumbest post ever, sadly he was modded down, but then again, he didn't explain why.
You left out the whole passage where Jesus said that ~"what you do to the lesser you do unto me". This is where Jesus said he was hungry but he was not fed, etc. You say that people misinterpet the eye of the needle quote but if you take that quote in conjunction to the one I just said you can interpet it as it is out duty to help others in need. Now with that in mind, could it not be argued that you can become rich simply by not putting an effort to help others? After all, you can think of wealth as a relative thing, an unequal exchange of goods and services which ideally is based on effort and skill (not skill of executing fraud mind you). And yes, with such riches come great responsibilities, but when you have billions of dollars while many come no where close, isn't that a big gap? It would seem reasonable to say that he has lots of power and there is lots poverty, sickness, starvation, etc. Also other threads have pointed out that he has been related to distastefull business practices in Coca-Cola (pun intended, shoot me for it).
Here's another way to look at it. Is it possible for him to devote more effort to helping his fellow man? If so, would he be as rich? Point and case right there.
Its not a matter of can you make money from free software its more a matter of can you make a killer proffit. Remember, in a capitalist society, people are driven to maximize their profit. If open sourcing their product means a 5% reduction in profit, it probably won't happen. Anyhow, there's my offtopic post of the day.
Reminds me of the Futurama episode where they all gathered to eat a dophin and one objected saying that the dolphin was intelligent - but then someone said the dolphin wasted his money on lottery tickets.
Joking aside...
There was this documentary about how these doplhins would use a similiar tactic just instead of a net they would use the bank of the shore line and the dolphins would temporarly bank themselves to catch fish. Scientists were baffled by how this was started. Now its obvios, doplhins are just plain smart!
No. In fact certain ID scientists do believe that certain constants were different about 4000 years ago. This has to do with the helium diffusion rates in zircon crystals and some other junk RATE project. Granted its a different constant, but it does mean that ID scientists aren't opposed to "constants" being changed. Now I don't really like their explanation as to how this happened (enter hand of God) but it does show some dating inconsitiencies (that greatly exceed error margins). But what really gets me is you're throwing around ideas without having any clue... I suppose thats/. for you.
This isn't terribly suprising as the people exposed to this radiation and their offspring probably procreated with people who were not exposed. This would mean the introduced changes would be diluted every generation. I would not go and jump to the conclusion that our DNA have some undiscovered repairing abilities or some other "x-men" type ability...
Your comment ommits the fact that some people don't want to invest allot of time to see performance benefits. Yes you can compile everything, but most people don't want to sit around for that. Don't get me wrong, I like gentoo as much as the next ricer, but I will admit the strengths of ubuntu/debian. And you as a gentoor (new word?) should appreciate not having to disable extra stuff, but rather enable the bloatware.
I wonder if the Mono project had any effect on their decision... Imagine porting windows apps to *nix via Mono. But maybe I'm just making a mountian out of a hill...
I know for our workplace one of the reasons we don't recommend PostgreSQL is because of all the FUD. It is sad because PostgreSQL is an amazing product.
TBH, none of those reasons are the deciding factors for why I use Gentoo over Debian.
Now before I continue and get flamed to death, I'll be the first to admint that Debian is one of the best distros out there. But it is only my second favorite.
I use gentoo simply because I like how it does the configurations. Its a bit hard for me to explain, but I find it consistent and logical. That may seem like a small/unimportant reason to choose a distro, but it is the deciding factor for me when I have to choose between debian and gentoo.
Now what I would really like to see (but won't happen) is have gentoo also be able to use debian packages. I love how packages install fast on debian, as well as the selection. But I love allot of things about gentoo. Ofc, I imagine this would lead an array of problems dealing with libs. Heck, I sometimes have problems porting my gentoo program to debian due to different lib names.
All in all, it comes down to the user and what they prefer. I value certain things that other people value differently. This is why there are so many distros to begin with. So plz stop saying one distro is waaay better then another, unless ofc, it truelly does suck (dead project, poorly implemented project, etc). Ya that sounds contradictory, but there are distros out there with next to no redeeming values except for that fact someone used it as a learning tool (which is a good thing).
Perhaps a little off topic, but just today I was reading how my former mayor left office and 4000 emails magically "disappeared". It is interesting because lately San Diego has had a great deal of scandals. I suppose stuff like this is becomming common practice. I can't help but wonder, why is the IT system so lacking? I know that if the FDA were to audit a life critical system, such a thing wouldn't pass (of course, the auditors might not realize the flaw). Granted lives aren't on the line in this case... but still.
I may not have much experience in higher eduaction tech support, but in high schools tech support is almost non-existant. The tech at the school currently is much better then the last 3 or 4 techs - she actually knows what a Subnet is.
The problem with OSS in schools (or at least in high schools) is that the administation doesn't think about support and maintanence for computers. Most simply think that you buy a set of new computers and thats it. OSS is probably not the easiest set of tools to set up or use. Yes you can argue that there are some really easy tools, but lets face it, try finding a decent OSS grading program. (if you do, let me know!)
Lastly, there are lots of politics. We buy computers from x company and we get money for sports. Stuff like this goes on way too much. I know there was a push to move to xp cuz there was some funding tied to that (ironically they blocked windows update for a while...). Also it seems that they have blocked various sites like wikipedia, getfirefox, etc. Also the firewall they set up really makes it difficult to download linux updates (grrrr....). To make it worse, a chunk of admins don't like it when you know things that they obviously do not, especially tech related. So suggesting to use x product or y operating system runs you the risk of them making your life miserable (fund cuts, being moved to a closet for an office, assigned impossible tasks so they can try to get rid of you - not kidding).
Anyways I really hope to see OSS in the classrooms someday, but it would require a lot of people leaving first.
I saw the movie and I seriously doubt many little kids would get the symbolism. What I found interesting was that most of the people I saw seeing it were not little kids, but rather late teens and up.
Now this is where im going to burn some karma... Getting into the argument that special effects = kids believing in it, look at all the other crap that is physically impossible being potrayed in movies (not just animals talking:-p ). I remember arguing when I was young that once you were frozen (not chryogenically frozen) you could not be revived - yet so many other kids were like "I saw it on batman, it must be true". So yes, little kids are generally stupid, but thats what parents are there for, to encourage them to understand and actually think. My personall philosophy is to simply expose people to many different arguments about the origin of life, even the really dumb ones. Then walk through the reasoning. When I was a kid, this is what my parents did with me, and Im glad. As a result I can reason my way out of many problems and figure out the probability of a theory being true versus another. I say let little kids see Narnia and Jurassic park and then encourage them to think about it and lead them to the true meaning behind those movies. If we simply make all the decisions for children without letting them go through the reason, we are simply training morons who will simply be told what their opinion is. Now I'm going to open up another can of worms, but this is rather related: Intelligent Design. For the record, I don't believe the world is 6k years old. I think it should be taught in the classrooms along side with evolution and have the kids actually debate it. However, there is a prerequisite to this, that the kids be taught logic and reasoning. But I have to wonder sometimes about how passionately people argue that ID and Narnia should never come to existance. I wonder what are they so afraid of? Are they afraid of little debate? But then again, I look at this as a learning tool for people to excercise their brains on....
PS The movie was fairly good, Special effects were one of the best.
Aye, I know in some athletes they have a problem with one of the chamber wall muscles getting to bit which decreases the size of the chamber. The only treatment I know for this is where they do a "controlled" heart attack. Basically they inject some alchohol in the muscle tissues and the whole process ends up getting rid of excess muscle tissue. But hey, I'm sure enlarged heart muscles are the least of concern with some people who really have next to no muscle mass...
Just like how the only people who post on slashdot are loosers with too much time on there hands... so does that mean you are a looser who knows nothing about what he is talking about?
I actually live in san diego and read this article yesterday. If it is the same article, this guy marketed it as a program to spy on your significant other. I think that is where the law gets him. If you distribute some code thats a trojan and slap on, "Educational purposes only, do not use on anyone without their permission, I am not responsible for your actions", then it seems the law is much more lenient. But this guy was marketing it as a tool that u send (like a greeting card) to check on your gf/bf to see if they are cheating.
No this trial doesn't mean coders are responsible for their users' actions, just responsible for how they say their program should be used
On a side not, this company started in 2001 - took 4 years for the FBI to notice & catch him. Kind of funny.
There are educational nature games out there like SimPark. I personally enjoyed the game and identifying plant and animal species was a requirement of the game. Mix that in with camping trips and what not, should be a good balance. My parents always took me on hiking trips and stuff like backpacking down the grand canyon. I was first introduced to a computer at 4 y/o. Ofc the most advanced game at the time was pacman or stickman. Personally, I would limit the gamming consoles like xbox and such until they are older, and make them work for the game. I see too many kids that are spoiled and expect 3 new games on every holiday. These same kids also have next to no technological know how. I only have a nes 8 bit and a gameboy btw:-p. While I am probably not the perfect example of a balance... My point is that you don't have to deprive them of computers until they are older, just make sure you incorporate/balance the two and don't let it get to the point where they expect the latest games without earning it.
many psychologists believe that there are 7 different types of intelligences, which of the 7 are they measuring? Also, this study has been done before, in previous findings they found a.33 correltation between brain size and intelligence. Regarding the hat remark, there is only a.1 correlation between head size and intelligence (think thick skulls).
well, if i interpert this correctly, the event already happened b4 u actually went back in time. So you going back in time is an event all ready observed by your father, so you would have to go back in time. Now another thing, if you did go back in time, the only possible outcome would be not to nullify your own existance... to say something would prevent you from killing him is both accurate and inaccurate. Its hard to explain, but the uncertainity principle would have to work both ways. The past must be preserved because we observe the present, but at the same token, the past already observed the time travel so the present has to be preserved, so you have to travel back in time.... me thinks this theory does not solve the paradox
"The fact of the matter is, the Patriot act was hardly ever used to collect library records"
Hardly ever isn't the same as never. The problem is terroist activities can be widely interpetted. And when things like due process of law is bypassed because you are tried in military court, it leaves a big window of abuse.
"Seriously, if you are a well financed terrorist who poses an actual threat to this country, would you have EVER gone to the library?"
I think that is our point, there is no reason to monitor library activity in relation to terrorism... and yet Bush will veto this, has to make you wonder.
I would like to take this time to pull out a good quote by Jefforson: "When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny."
The patriot act is a slippery slope. We cannot afford to loose the very thing we are supposedly invading countries for - liberty. While many people may laugh at the idea of America becomming a tyranicall place - it is very possible. It has happened in many other countries, as Hitler said "How fortunate for leaders, that the masses do not think."
step 1:
say: Windows saved my life!!
step 2:
~insert rediculous story here~
step 3:
denounce microsoft infront of cameras
i wonder if it will ever happen...
No offence, but that is a rather idealized view of computers in education. I witness first hand computers in high school and the most advanced computers classes are the following: buisiness and computer applications (microsoft office), computer science (qbasic), and cad. That is really all computers are used for in this school district. Rarely did we get to use any macromedia products... mainly due to lack of funding.
Open source in education is very feasable, but don't expect wine to solve all our problems. wine doesn't run a lot of applications out there, further more some of the really crappy software they give us have a vb front end - and you know how well that plays nice with wine.
In education there are 4 types of computers: web surfing (and the occasional type up essay during lunch), teacher's machine (enter grades, check mail, make tests), servers, higher end student machines (if we are lucking it has photoshop or flash on it). Open source is able to do a lot of this but there is a problem: tech support. Schools (at least here) are notorious for thinking that the only cost is that of buying the machine. It can take weeks for any tech support, so if the problem can be solved by the teacher, then good. But just imagine this on linux... trust me, most teachers are not tech savy. Yes in my opinion linux is more durable then windows, less spyware and junk, but tech support is something ignored when it comes to funding. Also mind you, computers recieve uber abuse at schools (remembers finding a cdrom full of bubble gum),
For open source to triumph in education it will need to come with responsive tech support. Teachers will complain about the switch (just make it gradual if you ask me) and decent tech support will make it smoother but probably wont happen (right now i can't even get my password for my email - been 1 month - they said i should email them using my account if i have any probs:-p)
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Simply put, not likely
1) The installer for these "codecs" is probably what installs the spyware, not the codec itself. So unless you ran the installer on wine I don't really see how you could install the codecs. And if you did install it on wine, there's no gaurantee the spyware would be able to run on wine and it would be rather strange to see an instance of wine running even after the installer is finished.
2) If the codecs are simply in a zip file and the spyware is embedded in the DLL then the spyware part of the codec will make calls that mplayer's environment will not likely provide it.
A person below your post said that this was the dumbest post ever, sadly he was modded down, but then again, he didn't explain why.
You left out the whole passage where Jesus said that ~"what you do to the lesser you do unto me". This is where Jesus said he was hungry but he was not fed, etc. You say that people misinterpet the eye of the needle quote but if you take that quote in conjunction to the one I just said you can interpet it as it is out duty to help others in need. Now with that in mind, could it not be argued that you can become rich simply by not putting an effort to help others? After all, you can think of wealth as a relative thing, an unequal exchange of goods and services which ideally is based on effort and skill (not skill of executing fraud mind you). And yes, with such riches come great responsibilities, but when you have billions of dollars while many come no where close, isn't that a big gap? It would seem reasonable to say that he has lots of power and there is lots poverty, sickness, starvation, etc. Also other threads have pointed out that he has been related to distastefull business practices in Coca-Cola (pun intended, shoot me for it).
Here's another way to look at it. Is it possible for him to devote more effort to helping his fellow man? If so, would he be as rich? Point and case right there.
Its not a matter of can you make money from free software its more a matter of can you make a killer proffit. Remember, in a capitalist society, people are driven to maximize their profit. If open sourcing their product means a 5% reduction in profit, it probably won't happen. Anyhow, there's my offtopic post of the day.
Reminds me of the Futurama episode where they all gathered to eat a dophin and one objected saying that the dolphin was intelligent - but then someone said the dolphin wasted his money on lottery tickets.
Joking aside...
There was this documentary about how these doplhins would use a similiar tactic just instead of a net they would use the bank of the shore line and the dolphins would temporarly bank themselves to catch fish. Scientists were baffled by how this was started. Now its obvios, doplhins are just plain smart!
No. In fact certain ID scientists do believe that certain constants were different about 4000 years ago. This has to do with the helium diffusion rates in zircon crystals and some other junk RATE project. Granted its a different constant, but it does mean that ID scientists aren't opposed to "constants" being changed. Now I don't really like their explanation as to how this happened (enter hand of God) but it does show some dating inconsitiencies (that greatly exceed error margins). But what really gets me is you're throwing around ideas without having any clue... I suppose thats /. for you.
This isn't terribly suprising as the people exposed to this radiation and their offspring probably procreated with people who were not exposed. This would mean the introduced changes would be diluted every generation. I would not go and jump to the conclusion that our DNA have some undiscovered repairing abilities or some other "x-men" type ability...
Your comment ommits the fact that some people don't want to invest allot of time to see performance benefits. Yes you can compile everything, but most people don't want to sit around for that. Don't get me wrong, I like gentoo as much as the next ricer, but I will admit the strengths of ubuntu/debian. And you as a gentoor (new word?) should appreciate not having to disable extra stuff, but rather enable the bloatware.
Yes, cary a USB drive into a "high" security building.....
There is a problem with what you said, and that is its based on newtonian physics.
I wonder if the Mono project had any effect on their decision... Imagine porting windows apps to *nix via Mono. But maybe I'm just making a mountian out of a hill...
I know for our workplace one of the reasons we don't recommend PostgreSQL is because of all the FUD. It is sad because PostgreSQL is an amazing product.
TBH, none of those reasons are the deciding factors for why I use Gentoo over Debian.
Now before I continue and get flamed to death, I'll be the first to admint that Debian is one of the best distros out there. But it is only my second favorite.
I use gentoo simply because I like how it does the configurations. Its a bit hard for me to explain, but I find it consistent and logical. That may seem like a small/unimportant reason to choose a distro, but it is the deciding factor for me when I have to choose between debian and gentoo.
Now what I would really like to see (but won't happen) is have gentoo also be able to use debian packages. I love how packages install fast on debian, as well as the selection. But I love allot of things about gentoo. Ofc, I imagine this would lead an array of problems dealing with libs. Heck, I sometimes have problems porting my gentoo program to debian due to different lib names.
All in all, it comes down to the user and what they prefer. I value certain things that other people value differently. This is why there are so many distros to begin with. So plz stop saying one distro is waaay better then another, unless ofc, it truelly does suck (dead project, poorly implemented project, etc). Ya that sounds contradictory, but there are distros out there with next to no redeeming values except for that fact someone used it as a learning tool (which is a good thing).
Perhaps a little off topic, but just today I was reading how my former mayor left office and 4000 emails magically "disappeared". It is interesting because lately San Diego has had a great deal of scandals. I suppose stuff like this is becomming common practice. I can't help but wonder, why is the IT system so lacking? I know that if the FDA were to audit a life critical system, such a thing wouldn't pass (of course, the auditors might not realize the flaw). Granted lives aren't on the line in this case... but still.
I may not have much experience in higher eduaction tech support, but in high schools tech support is almost non-existant. The tech at the school currently is much better then the last 3 or 4 techs - she actually knows what a Subnet is.
The problem with OSS in schools (or at least in high schools) is that the administation doesn't think about support and maintanence for computers. Most simply think that you buy a set of new computers and thats it. OSS is probably not the easiest set of tools to set up or use. Yes you can argue that there are some really easy tools, but lets face it, try finding a decent OSS grading program. (if you do, let me know!)
Lastly, there are lots of politics. We buy computers from x company and we get money for sports. Stuff like this goes on way too much. I know there was a push to move to xp cuz there was some funding tied to that (ironically they blocked windows update for a while...). Also it seems that they have blocked various sites like wikipedia, getfirefox, etc. Also the firewall they set up really makes it difficult to download linux updates (grrrr....). To make it worse, a chunk of admins don't like it when you know things that they obviously do not, especially tech related. So suggesting to use x product or y operating system runs you the risk of them making your life miserable (fund cuts, being moved to a closet for an office, assigned impossible tasks so they can try to get rid of you - not kidding).
Anyways I really hope to see OSS in the classrooms someday, but it would require a lot of people leaving first.I saw the movie and I seriously doubt many little kids would get the symbolism. What I found interesting was that most of the people I saw seeing it were not little kids, but rather late teens and up.
:-p ). I remember arguing when I was young that once you were frozen (not chryogenically frozen) you could not be revived - yet so many other kids were like "I saw it on batman, it must be true". So yes, little kids are generally stupid, but thats what parents are there for, to encourage them to understand and actually think. My personall philosophy is to simply expose people to many different arguments about the origin of life, even the really dumb ones. Then walk through the reasoning. When I was a kid, this is what my parents did with me, and Im glad. As a result I can reason my way out of many problems and figure out the probability of a theory being true versus another. I say let little kids see Narnia and Jurassic park and then encourage them to think about it and lead them to the true meaning behind those movies. If we simply make all the decisions for children without letting them go through the reason, we are simply training morons who will simply be told what their opinion is.
Now this is where im going to burn some karma... Getting into the argument that special effects = kids believing in it, look at all the other crap that is physically impossible being potrayed in movies (not just animals talking
Now I'm going to open up another can of worms, but this is rather related: Intelligent Design. For the record, I don't believe the world is 6k years old. I think it should be taught in the classrooms along side with evolution and have the kids actually debate it. However, there is a prerequisite to this, that the kids be taught logic and reasoning. But I have to wonder sometimes about how passionately people argue that ID and Narnia should never come to existance. I wonder what are they so afraid of? Are they afraid of little debate? But then again, I look at this as a learning tool for people to excercise their brains on....
PS The movie was fairly good, Special effects were one of the best.
Aye, I know in some athletes they have a problem with one of the chamber wall muscles getting to bit which decreases the size of the chamber. The only treatment I know for this is where they do a "controlled" heart attack. Basically they inject some alchohol in the muscle tissues and the whole process ends up getting rid of excess muscle tissue.
But hey, I'm sure enlarged heart muscles are the least of concern with some people who really have next to no muscle mass...
Just like how the only people who post on slashdot are loosers with too much time on there hands... so does that mean you are a looser who knows nothing about what he is talking about?
I actually live in san diego and read this article yesterday. If it is the same article, this guy marketed it as a program to spy on your significant other. I think that is where the law gets him. If you distribute some code thats a trojan and slap on, "Educational purposes only, do not use on anyone without their permission, I am not responsible for your actions", then it seems the law is much more lenient. But this guy was marketing it as a tool that u send (like a greeting card) to check on your gf/bf to see if they are cheating.
No this trial doesn't mean coders are responsible for their users' actions, just responsible for how they say their program should be used
On a side not, this company started in 2001 - took 4 years for the FBI to notice & catch him. Kind of funny.
read the article. he says most systems don't even use passwords
There are educational nature games out there like SimPark. I personally enjoyed the game and identifying plant and animal species was a requirement of the game. Mix that in with camping trips and what not, should be a good balance. My parents always took me on hiking trips and stuff like backpacking down the grand canyon. I was first introduced to a computer at 4 y/o. Ofc the most advanced game at the time was pacman or stickman. Personally, I would limit the gamming consoles like xbox and such until they are older, and make them work for the game. I see too many kids that are spoiled and expect 3 new games on every holiday. These same kids also have next to no technological know how. I only have a nes 8 bit and a gameboy btw :-p. While I am probably not the perfect example of a balance... My point is that you don't have to deprive them of computers until they are older, just make sure you incorporate/balance the two and don't let it get to the point where they expect the latest games without earning it.
many psychologists believe that there are 7 different types of intelligences, which of the 7 are they measuring? Also, this study has been done before, in previous findings they found a .33 correltation between brain size and intelligence. Regarding the hat remark, there is only a .1 correlation between head size and intelligence (think thick skulls).
well, if i interpert this correctly, the event already happened b4 u actually went back in time. So you going back in time is an event all ready observed by your father, so you would have to go back in time. Now another thing, if you did go back in time, the only possible outcome would be not to nullify your own existance... to say something would prevent you from killing him is both accurate and inaccurate. Its hard to explain, but the uncertainity principle would have to work both ways. The past must be preserved because we observe the present, but at the same token, the past already observed the time travel so the present has to be preserved, so you have to travel back in time.... me thinks this theory does not solve the paradox
"The fact of the matter is, the Patriot act was hardly ever used to collect library records"
Hardly ever isn't the same as never. The problem is terroist activities can be widely interpetted. And when things like due process of law is bypassed because you are tried in military court, it leaves a big window of abuse.
"Seriously, if you are a well financed terrorist who poses an actual threat to this country, would you have EVER gone to the library?"
I think that is our point, there is no reason to monitor library activity in relation to terrorism... and yet Bush will veto this, has to make you wonder.
I would like to take this time to pull out a good quote by Jefforson: "When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny."
The patriot act is a slippery slope. We cannot afford to loose the very thing we are supposedly invading countries for - liberty. While many people may laugh at the idea of America becomming a tyranicall place - it is very possible. It has happened in many other countries, as Hitler said "How fortunate for leaders, that the masses do not think."
step 1:
say: Windows saved my life!!
step 2:
~insert rediculous story here~ step 3:
denounce microsoft infront of cameras
i wonder if it will ever happen...
No offence, but that is a rather idealized view of computers in education. I witness first hand computers in high school and the most advanced computers classes are the following: buisiness and computer applications (microsoft office), computer science (qbasic), and cad. That is really all computers are used for in this school district. Rarely did we get to use any macromedia products... mainly due to lack of funding.
Open source in education is very feasable, but don't expect wine to solve all our problems. wine doesn't run a lot of applications out there, further more some of the really crappy software they give us have a vb front end - and you know how well that plays nice with wine.
In education there are 4 types of computers: web surfing (and the occasional type up essay during lunch), teacher's machine (enter grades, check mail, make tests), servers, higher end student machines (if we are lucking it has photoshop or flash on it). Open source is able to do a lot of this but there is a problem: tech support. Schools (at least here) are notorious for thinking that the only cost is that of buying the machine. It can take weeks for any tech support, so if the problem can be solved by the teacher, then good. But just imagine this on linux... trust me, most teachers are not tech savy. Yes in my opinion linux is more durable then windows, less spyware and junk, but tech support is something ignored when it comes to funding. Also mind you, computers recieve uber abuse at schools (remembers finding a cdrom full of bubble gum),
For open source to triumph in education it will need to come with responsive tech support. Teachers will complain about the switch (just make it gradual if you ask me) and decent tech support will make it smoother but probably wont happen (right now i can't even get my password for my email - been 1 month - they said i should email them using my account if i have any probs :-p)