I did the hill calculation for going over Barlow Pass in Oregon (Mt. Hood..) before I bought my 02 Prius. Don't have it, but I remember how I did it: For your example...
calculating vertical climb horsepower.. assuming grade is rise/run proportion.
Given that 1 horsepower is 33000 pounds 1 vertical foot up in a minute.
50mph is 0.833 miles/minute. at a 7% grade up, its 0.05833 vertical miles, or 308 vertical feet/ minute.
3500 pounds of car and load, that's 1.08e6 feet*pounds lift per minute.
1.08e3/33000(ft*lbs/min)/hp gives about 33hp for the vertical climb,
leaving 42 hp for friction (aerodynamic and road) I believe this car only uses about 14-15 horsepower for friction and windage at 60. Even derating for loss of power at altitude, (70% at 10000ft?) there's still margin to do this.
Huge horsepowers in modern cars (>100HP) are not needed for climb, they're used for acceleration performance.
Now.. accelleration 0-60 in the 02 Prius is not great. It's fantastic 0-20, okay 20-35 and terrible from 35-65. I believe the '04 version and up really improved that by doubling the electrical torque. The surge torque you get from the electrics are not affected by altitude, which can be nice.
A bigger concern might be the cold weather performance. I've noticed occasional starting issues in the 02 Prius under sub 20's F. Basically, if the car can't start itself on the first crank over it freaks out and lights up a lot of scary indicators. I've had this happen 3 times. I believe they've got a fix for this on the car.. I'm of the mindset to just not care as long as I understand why the indicators are up when this happens. Of course, I live in a valley where it rarely gets under freezing. I would be worried about sub zero F temps for this vehicle.
The Hybrid is started by the traction battery.. so in theory... they could give it far superior start performance in cold weather.
I run Suse on my machine, a desktop I depend on every single day for engineering work. I wasn't thrilled when Novell bought Suse, but I upgraded to Suse Linux 9.2 anyways. It says "NOVELL" on the box. I think it was about $80.
Well, guess what. Next time I build up a new 'puter or upgrade the OS on this one... I'm not going to use Suse, even thought it may not be as seamless a transition for me.
I feel a little bad, because the Gecko is kinda cute, and the "random phone support lady" that came up on the while-installing screen was really really hot (I cannot be the only one to notice this). But I depend on Open Source Software and I know who my friends are and aren't.
Becuase I don't like the deal, I'm not a customer anymore, and wouldn't be involved in Novell/Microsofts little survey. Does this prove my point or prove theirs, or both??
We already are extracting useful power from fusion.
The reactor is 93 million miles away, so the energy density collectable isn't great, but it's super reliable. The extraction can be done by a simple diode junction, with no moving parts.
40 years ago photovoltaics were so expensive they were only used in the space program. 20 years ago they were cheap enough to be real practical for isolated power needs. Maybe 10-15 years ago we started seeing highway road signs use them. Right now, the cost is down to the point where private citizens can turn their homes into net generators http://www.pvpowered.com/. If the cost per watt of photovoltaic capability keeps on this trend, in 20 years, we'll be generating massive amounts of electricity from the sun.
I'd like to see funding going to ITER.. it's awesome and inspiring science and engineering. Frankly, I'm bummed we're not doing both this and the superconducting supercollider here in the states. But right now, we need massive investments in known-working non-carbon emitting energy generation.. wind, photovoltaics, and maybe biomass with carbon sequestration.
I thought the nominal boarding pass glance TSA did was just to limit the number of people going thru security. Before they did this, you'd meet people at the gate to pick them up.. so tons more people were going thru security.
By reducing the number of people thru security, they can take more time searching each person w/o causing an increased delay.
They ought to be searching and vetting everyone who gets on a plane, whether they think they can establish identity or not.
There are HVAC systems that use a heat source to create cold.. I don't know exactly how they work, but they've been around for awhile.
An example of a small system is a propane powered RV refrigerator.
See http://www.southerncompany.com/gapower/energy_know how/absorption_chillers.asp?mnuOpco=gpc&mnuType=co m&mnuItem=ed
You can get solar collectors with a very high discharge temp... vacuum tube collectors or anything with a concentrator. So why
aren't we using solar powered absorbtion cooling in small applications, and
why aren't we using deep ocean water to cool our major cities?
I don't understand the mechanism by which prayer could help. I cannot conceive how G-d could care more about a person prayed about than a person not prayed about. So I can't easily come up with any method, either scientifically or "religiously," where prayer would improve outcomes, (Disclaimer: I'm just a confused citizen of the world, not a theologin) but I pray anyways. If I hear somebody I care about is terribly ill, there's no usually no logical action I can take. Prayer makes me feel a little better about the situation.
I can come up with a way their control group could've been badly polluted. Some, perhaps many, "prayers" may have felt that it would be unethical or uncaring to not pray for the control group. So if every person in the study gets a prayer or two, but the anonymous control is getting the combined prayers of many, well, the control group would get more prayer. "Anonymous" means nothing to an omnipotent, omnipresent G-d.
I gave a months notice at the hardware startup I worked for. I loved the people, just didn't like the direction the Co. was going. It was about a 40 person operation.
This month was spent attempting to get things to finish points, documenting everything and explaining things to the coworkers who were going to take over the critical pieces of work.. My last day there, I had to drop my keys thru the mailslot on exiting, cause I was the last one out the building about 1030PM.
Somebody got a hideously exploded drive.... (we made 480V 20HP machine drives,) and everybody signed it and gave it to me.. it's still one of my treasured possetions... I feel so lucky I had an experience like this.. but they did get a substantial amount of work from me just because they treated me so well.
Stuff here is just confirming the fact I'd never want to work for a huge corporation.
Wow.
Years back, as a 3rd and 4rth grader, my brother was an avid jogger (5-10 miles daily.) . He was interviewed by the local neighborhood paper... When asked why he ran, he said it relaxed him and he could think. The quote in the paper: "I go for the glory.. I do it for the trophies and stuff."
Ooh ooh... I'm going to patent methods of making cloaks of invisibility, x-ray vision goggles, love potions, and an arcane spell to eliminate the national debt!!
Seeing how as science doesn't inform public policy around here anymore, patents on magic could become very valuable!
I run Linux on my desktop, and use Cadsoft Eagle for schematic and layout package. I paid $500 5 years ago for v3.5, and 500 bucks again a couple mos ago for v4.15. To me, that's commercial. By the way, the new version kicks butt. I bought Applixware in the dark ages before openoffice and fast computers. I've also bought a commercial linux cad program that sucked for $100 (sucker!!), and actually once paid money for a boxed set of StarOffice (sucker!).
Incidently, I'm running a Novell/SUSE distro.. I paid money for that too. I use the machine and software to do work and make money.
We have a Mac at home. On it is a legal copy of Microsoft Office, as well as Gimp. The computer has not burst into flames. Eagle runs on the Mac too.. I paid 100 more bucks to get the Mac platform licence.
While a windows-desktop user, I bought a peecee with Windows 95, bought Office '97 (student discount.) I upgraded to 98 (sucker!!) and then bought Windows 2000 for another machine. Maybe $500 total.
I have spent far more money for software on GNU/Linux and BSD than I have for software on Windows.
Now all we need to do is get the book, "How Rockets Work" and give it to NASA.. I want to get back to the moon!
Seriously, I wonder what it would take to rebuild the Saturn 5 program and send the rest of the ISS up in one or two big shots, instead of 20 little shuttle trips. Could we build a 60's era rocket in less time and with less risk than launching 20 space shuttles?
Well, I'm a fairly rational person, and I pay 2x for the organic grain-fed hippy eggs. Why? I'm terrified of Mad Cow (I'm fairly rational, not totally rational) , and I'm pretty sure they feed animal offal to chickens. I don't eat any commercial beef.
If I were drinking a lot of milk, or feeding it to growing kids, I'd want them to have the hippy synthetic hormone free milk.
All I'm saying is that there are reasons to buy organic other than straight cost... call it fear, call it paranoia, call it overcautiousness.
I think the my-computer-more-expensive/cooler-than-yours is 1/2 the reason people by apple.. the other is the reputation for just working and not getting virii.
Imagine a car that only needs to be refueled every few months/years. Or a power system for your home that is independent from the Grid. Or ships that no longer have to rely on Diesel. That is the temptation of Cold Fusion.
1. Bicycle.
2. Solar cells and a Woodstove.
3. Sailboat.
Actually number 2 does depend on Fusion.. just uses a 10-15% conversion process on a reactor that's running for free.
* More men than women believe life exists on other planets, 69% vs. 51%
* 72% of those who believe life exists on other planets would be "excited
and hopeful" upon learning that life had been found on other planets.
And 99% of us would be very happy to meet those fleshy tentacle head women featured in Star Wars. I know if the female senator going up the stairs in the loose white outfit wants to chat, she's certainly welcome to contact me!
Seriously, a scary near miss or non-fatal hit would do this world good.. get people working together on the right problems instead of all this whiney handwringing about homeland security and terrorism.
I keep ultra sensitive information on small pieces of paper and sticky notes stuffed into various jacket, pants, shirt pockets.
Any would-be attacker will be thwarted by the perfect randomness of my dressing style, and the fact that many of these papers will be securely encrypted in the washing machine.
I'll mention your name this Friday in a healing prayer we do. I'm not real religious, but I think there's some good in it.
Please get yourself to the best lung specialist you can find.
Good luck.
So... You're sitting there, idling in traffic, and you ask your HUMMER: "Get Me Cheapest Gas."... or rather, if it's as screwed up as the phone (from the article):
1. "Get me cheapest gas." 2. "GET Me Cheapest GAS." 3. "GET ME CHEAPEST GAS!" 4. "G..E..T.. M..E.. CHEEEPEST GASSSSSSSSSSSS!!!"
openoffice lets me use a Linux desktop. I started using Applixware, then switched about 2 yrs ago for the better conversion filters.
I'm no power user, but I write reasonable documentation for clients and customers using openoffice 1.0.1, print to postscript and convert to pdf with ps2pdf. Works like a charm, although I really ought to upgrade to get native pdf generation.
It's been easier and more predictable for me to position graphics in oo documents than in Word documents.
I don't like the fonts/display situation, but I haven't upgraded anything in about a year and a half.
As for loading/saving time, well, not great, but my 600MHz PIII with 256M is tolerable with it, so any modern desktop should be fine.
A side note... way back 5 yrs ago, I started my thesis outline in html for the web, then brought the text into Word to do the document, thinking that I'd just edit out the HTML tags. Word "recognized" it as an HTML document, and caused me no end of grief. Word damaged my ability to have a life several months after getting out of school by causing me to fight with inane formatting problems just to get a "final copy" out.
If you haven't used openoffice, you should give it a try.
Perhaps the Kyoto Alliance should excercise a preemptive right to defend itself against the United States.
We've got bigger problems than "terrorism" and "perscription drugs" (all of which will go generic in about 20 yrs.) I wish we had visionary leadership that would deal with the real problems we've got. I am sick that we have to import oil from the Saudis, decently efficient cars from Japan, and get our nuclear fuel reprocessed in France. And hitchhike our way to the spacestation on Russian rockets. We've gone from the scientific leaders of the planet to a bunch of sissified head-in-the sand consumers.
People who drive the Prius aren't the type who go to car washes. we're too cheap to pay for gas, definately not going to buy overpriced water to wash the car.
I drive a 02 Prius. Even in the 2002 model, you're a little disconnected from the engine... You can have the thing in park and floor the gas pedal.. nothing happens. I hate to think of the oposite situation.. I am putting a lot of trust in Toyota.
There's no "low gears." The Prius has a CVT. I think mine has a Neutral, but the new one doesn't.
What about antilock brakes??? It is nice to be able to slam on the brakes and still steer on a snowy road, but I'm a little uncomfortable having a computer getting between my foot and the brakes.
You know, I'd rather see something about how we were working on moving the world away from dependence on petroleum. Just something a little more immediately useful than being able to play quake or watch Brittney Shpeers at a gazillion frames a second.
If all the effort that has gone into making phenomenal processors would be shifted into energy independence, we'd breathe cleaner air and not support so much terrorism and war.
Maybe Intel could build a couple plants to produce photovoltaics... we're CAPACITY LIMITED on panels now! Sure, it's different than a submicron CPU, and would require different techniques and thinking, but why not?? I think you could build a plant to make FREAKING DIODES for a couple billion dollars.
Just my personal rant. I'm not the manufacturing/financing/business leader to do this, but I'd hope somebody is. Is American Industry lead by a bunch of risk averse, non innovative SISSYS now???
I also want a Moon Base. I'm serious.
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Hi,
I did the hill calculation for going over Barlow Pass in Oregon (Mt. Hood..) before I bought my 02 Prius. Don't have it, but I remember how I did it: For your example...
calculating vertical climb horsepower.. assuming grade is rise/run proportion.
Given that 1 horsepower is 33000 pounds 1 vertical foot up in a minute.
50mph is 0.833 miles/minute. at a 7% grade up, its 0.05833 vertical miles, or 308 vertical feet/ minute.
3500 pounds of car and load, that's 1.08e6 feet*pounds lift per minute.
1.08e3/33000(ft*lbs/min)/hp gives about 33hp for the vertical climb, leaving 42 hp for friction (aerodynamic and road) I believe this car only uses about 14-15 horsepower for friction and windage at 60. Even derating for loss of power at altitude, (70% at 10000ft?) there's still margin to do this.
Huge horsepowers in modern cars (>100HP) are not needed for climb, they're used for acceleration performance.
Now.. accelleration 0-60 in the 02 Prius is not great. It's fantastic 0-20, okay 20-35 and terrible from 35-65. I believe the '04 version and up really improved that by doubling the electrical torque. The surge torque you get from the electrics are not affected by altitude, which can be nice.
A bigger concern might be the cold weather performance. I've noticed occasional starting issues in the 02 Prius under sub 20's F. Basically, if the car can't start itself on the first crank over it freaks out and lights up a lot of scary indicators. I've had this happen 3 times. I believe they've got a fix for this on the car.. I'm of the mindset to just not care as long as I understand why the indicators are up when this happens. Of course, I live in a valley where it rarely gets under freezing. I would be worried about sub zero F temps for this vehicle.
The Hybrid is started by the traction battery.. so in theory... they could give it far superior start performance in cold weather.
Cheers,
Alex
I run Suse on my machine, a desktop I depend on every single day for engineering work. I wasn't thrilled when Novell bought Suse, but I upgraded to Suse Linux 9.2 anyways. It says "NOVELL" on the box. I think it was about $80.
Well, guess what. Next time I build up a new 'puter or upgrade the OS on this one... I'm not going to use Suse, even thought it may not be as seamless a transition for me.
I feel a little bad, because the Gecko is kinda cute, and the "random phone support lady" that came up on the while-installing screen was really really hot (I cannot be the only one to notice this). But I depend on Open Source Software and I know who my friends are and aren't.
Becuase I don't like the deal, I'm not a customer anymore, and wouldn't be involved in Novell/Microsofts little survey. Does this prove my point or prove theirs, or both??
We already are extracting useful power from fusion.
The reactor is 93 million miles away, so the energy density collectable isn't great, but it's super reliable. The extraction can be done by a simple diode junction, with no moving parts.
40 years ago photovoltaics were so expensive they were only used in the space program. 20 years ago they were cheap enough to be real practical for isolated power needs. Maybe 10-15 years ago we started seeing highway road signs use them. Right now, the cost is down to the point where private citizens can turn their homes into net generators http://www.pvpowered.com/. If the cost per watt of photovoltaic capability keeps on this trend, in 20 years, we'll be generating massive amounts of electricity from the sun.
I'd like to see funding going to ITER.. it's awesome and inspiring science and engineering. Frankly, I'm bummed we're not doing both this and the superconducting supercollider here in the states. But right now, we need massive investments in known-working non-carbon emitting energy generation.. wind, photovoltaics, and maybe biomass with carbon sequestration.
I thought the nominal boarding pass glance TSA did was just to limit the number of people going thru security. Before they did this, you'd meet people at the gate to pick them up.. so tons more people were going thru security.
By reducing the number of people thru security, they can take more time searching each person w/o causing an increased delay.
They ought to be searching and vetting everyone who gets on a plane, whether they think they can establish identity or not.
There are HVAC systems that use a heat source to create cold.. I don't know exactly how they work, but they've been around for awhile. An example of a small system is a propane powered RV refrigerator. See http://www.southerncompany.com/gapower/energy_know how/absorption_chillers.asp?mnuOpco=gpc&mnuType=co m&mnuItem=ed
You can get solar collectors with a very high discharge temp... vacuum tube collectors or anything with a concentrator. So why
aren't we using solar powered absorbtion cooling in small applications, and
why aren't we using deep ocean water to cool our major cities?
I don't understand the mechanism by which prayer could help. I cannot conceive how G-d could care more about a person prayed about than a person not prayed about. So I can't easily come up with any method, either scientifically or "religiously," where prayer would improve outcomes, (Disclaimer: I'm just a confused citizen of the world, not a theologin) but I pray anyways. If I hear somebody I care about is terribly ill, there's no usually no logical action I can take. Prayer makes me feel a little better about the situation.
I can come up with a way their control group could've been badly polluted. Some, perhaps many, "prayers" may have felt that it would be unethical or uncaring to not pray for the control group. So if every person in the study gets a prayer or two, but the anonymous control is getting the combined prayers of many, well, the control group would get more prayer. "Anonymous" means nothing to an omnipotent, omnipresent G-d.
I gave a months notice at the hardware startup I worked for. I loved the people, just didn't like the direction the Co. was going. It was about a 40 person operation.
This month was spent attempting to get things to finish points, documenting everything and explaining things to the coworkers who were going to take over the critical pieces of work.. My last day there, I had to drop my keys thru the mailslot on exiting, cause I was the last one out the building about 1030PM.
Somebody got a hideously exploded drive.... (we made 480V 20HP machine drives,) and everybody signed it and gave it to me.. it's still one of my treasured possetions... I feel so lucky I had an experience like this.. but they did get a substantial amount of work from me just because they treated me so well.
Stuff here is just confirming the fact I'd never want to work for a huge corporation.
Wow. Years back, as a 3rd and 4rth grader, my brother was an avid jogger (5-10 miles daily.) . He was interviewed by the local neighborhood paper... When asked why he ran, he said it relaxed him and he could think. The quote in the paper: "I go for the glory.. I do it for the trophies and stuff."
Ooh ooh... I'm going to patent methods of making cloaks of invisibility, x-ray vision goggles, love potions, and an arcane spell to eliminate the national debt!! Seeing how as science doesn't inform public policy around here anymore, patents on magic could become very valuable!
I run Linux on my desktop, and use Cadsoft Eagle for schematic and layout package. I paid $500 5 years ago for v3.5, and 500 bucks again a couple mos ago for v4.15. To me, that's commercial. By the way, the new version kicks butt. I bought Applixware in the dark ages before openoffice and fast computers. I've also bought a commercial linux cad program that sucked for $100 (sucker!!), and actually once paid money for a boxed set of StarOffice (sucker!).
Incidently, I'm running a Novell/SUSE distro.. I paid money for that too. I use the machine and software to do work and make money.
We have a Mac at home. On it is a legal copy of Microsoft Office, as well as Gimp. The computer has not burst into flames. Eagle runs on the Mac too.. I paid 100 more bucks to get the Mac platform licence.
While a windows-desktop user, I bought a peecee with Windows 95, bought Office '97 (student discount.) I upgraded to 98 (sucker!!) and then bought Windows 2000 for another machine. Maybe $500 total.
I have spent far more money for software on GNU/Linux and BSD than I have for software on Windows.
Now all we need to do is get the book, "How Rockets Work" and give it to NASA.. I want to get back to the moon! Seriously, I wonder what it would take to rebuild the Saturn 5 program and send the rest of the ISS up in one or two big shots, instead of 20 little shuttle trips. Could we build a 60's era rocket in less time and with less risk than launching 20 space shuttles?
Well, I'm a fairly rational person, and I pay 2x for the organic grain-fed hippy eggs. Why? I'm terrified of Mad Cow (I'm fairly rational, not totally rational) , and I'm pretty sure they feed animal offal to chickens. I don't eat any commercial beef.
If I were drinking a lot of milk, or feeding it to growing kids, I'd want them to have the hippy synthetic hormone free milk.
All I'm saying is that there are reasons to buy organic other than straight cost... call it fear, call it paranoia, call it overcautiousness.
I think the my-computer-more-expensive/cooler-than-yours is 1/2 the reason people by apple.. the other is the reputation for just working and not getting virii.
At least it's not as bad as cars.
Cheers
- 1. Bicycle.
- 2. Solar cells and a Woodstove.
- 3. Sailboat.
Actually number 2 does depend on Fusion.. just uses a 10-15% conversion process on a reactor that's running for free.And 99% of us would be very happy to meet those fleshy tentacle head women featured in Star Wars. I know if the female senator going up the stairs in the loose white outfit wants to chat, she's certainly welcome to contact me!
Huh huh... huh huh huh... he said "ASS-DESTROID."
Seriously, a scary near miss or non-fatal hit would do this world good.. get people working together on the right problems instead of all this whiney handwringing about homeland security and terrorism.
Perhaps before we totally blow it China will save the world by conquering the USA and implementing some sort of draconian one SUV policy.
I keep ultra sensitive information on small pieces of paper and sticky notes stuffed into various jacket, pants, shirt pockets.
Any would-be attacker will be thwarted by the perfect randomness of my dressing style, and the fact that many of these papers will be securely encrypted in the washing machine.
I'll mention your name this Friday in a healing prayer we do. I'm not real religious, but I think there's some good in it. Please get yourself to the best lung specialist you can find. Good luck.
Geez... Don't forget Gluttony!
The tax break for Hummer/Navigator buyers, the refusal to really push for efficiency has got to qualify as Gluttony.
So... You're sitting there, idling in traffic, and you ask your HUMMER: "Get Me Cheapest Gas."... or rather, if it's as screwed up as the phone (from the article):
1. "Get me cheapest gas."
2. "GET Me Cheapest GAS."
3. "GET ME CHEAPEST GAS!"
4. "G..E..T.. M..E.. CHEEEPEST GASSSSSSSSSSSS!!!"
Something's wrong with this picture.
Why not: "Get Me Honda Dealer?"
openoffice lets me use a Linux desktop. I started using Applixware, then switched about 2 yrs ago for the better conversion filters.
I'm no power user, but I write reasonable documentation for clients and customers using openoffice 1.0.1, print to postscript and convert to pdf with ps2pdf. Works like a charm, although I really ought to upgrade to get native pdf generation.
It's been easier and more predictable for me to position graphics in oo documents than in Word documents.
I don't like the fonts/display situation, but I haven't upgraded anything in about a year and a half.
As for loading/saving time, well, not great, but my 600MHz PIII with 256M is tolerable with it, so any modern desktop should be fine.
A side note... way back 5 yrs ago, I started my thesis outline in html for the web, then brought the text into Word to do the document, thinking that I'd just edit out the HTML tags. Word "recognized" it as an HTML document, and caused me no end of grief. Word damaged my ability to have a life several months after getting out of school by causing me to fight with inane formatting problems just to get a "final copy" out.
If you haven't used openoffice, you should give it a try.
Perhaps the Kyoto Alliance should excercise a preemptive right to defend itself against the United States.
We've got bigger problems than "terrorism" and "perscription drugs" (all of which will go generic in about 20 yrs.) I wish we had visionary leadership that would deal with the real problems we've got. I am sick that we have to import oil from the Saudis, decently efficient cars from Japan, and get our nuclear fuel reprocessed in France. And hitchhike our way to the spacestation on Russian rockets. We've gone from the scientific leaders of the planet to a bunch of sissified head-in-the sand consumers.
Or maybe it's just Monday.
People who drive the Prius aren't the type who go to car washes. we're too cheap to pay for gas, definately not going to buy overpriced water to wash the car.
I drive a 02 Prius. Even in the 2002 model, you're a little disconnected from the engine... You can have the thing in park and floor the gas pedal.. nothing happens. I hate to think of the oposite situation.. I am putting a lot of trust in Toyota.
There's no "low gears." The Prius has a CVT. I think mine has a Neutral, but the new one doesn't.
What about antilock brakes??? It is nice to be able to slam on the brakes and still steer on a snowy road, but I'm a little uncomfortable having a computer getting between my foot and the brakes.
You know, I'd rather see something about how we were working on moving the world away from dependence on petroleum. Just something a little more immediately useful than being able to play quake or watch Brittney Shpeers at a gazillion frames a second. If all the effort that has gone into making phenomenal processors would be shifted into energy independence, we'd breathe cleaner air and not support so much terrorism and war. Maybe Intel could build a couple plants to produce photovoltaics... we're CAPACITY LIMITED on panels now! Sure, it's different than a submicron CPU, and would require different techniques and thinking, but why not?? I think you could build a plant to make FREAKING DIODES for a couple billion dollars. Just my personal rant. I'm not the manufacturing/financing/business leader to do this, but I'd hope somebody is. Is American Industry lead by a bunch of risk averse, non innovative SISSYS now??? I also want a Moon Base. I'm serious.
What they really need is some better leadership that doesn't send them into wars on a lie.