Fancy numbers, but they're incomplete. What was the total cost for this 2 year exercise if a ordinary human with a soul sat down and paid for every watt - how much did this PDF experiment cost? The maths has been clear about this for a very long time, google is drinking cool-aid if they think this means anything more than what has already been discussed or discovered.
Let me put it another way, in recent history the A+B=C mathematical formula was proven by a reclusive Japanese mathematician. Have we stopped using RSA keys? Has the banking system been completely replaced with mathematics which does not fall victim to this proof? No. And they wont. 1100 GPU years means nothing unless you're the one paying the bills.
Google needs to start hiring humans with brains that can think - and better yet, some grey hairs from working in IT.
Its funny because/. hasnt been watching the great man made global cooling culling happening on english wikipedia for the last 10 years by Professor William Connelly, a owner of Freemantle Media's realclimate website, endowed with his myriad of wikipedia sub-editor accounts. I suspect Will would have been one of the people who asked for the ban in the first place!!
"a group of climate change denialists and alarmists."
The guy is a geologist, the enemy of WWF, Sierra club and Greenpeace. They explain that the climate is always changing because that is what humans have discovered after hundreds if not thousands of years of investigation. To toss that aside immediately because he disagrees with Obama's hand picked ex head of the UN WMO John Holdren?
But it also shows that you do not need to have any understanding of science, economics, history or even culture to post anything to/. and immediately assume it is correct.
Have these environmentalists proven there is a hot spot of CO2 feed backing heat to water vapour? UNSW has! They used wind-sheer off the coast of NSW to prove there is a hot spot over the equator. Sarcasm aside, no, we measure that area of air and it is either the same temperature or has actually decreased. Have you heard? If you havnt, you've been reading the MSM and/. and soylent news. It is as if these places are gatekept for consistency of this unproven science.
The inability to think is anti-science. Anti-philosophy. It is parallel to the inquisition where society all agreed that WITCHES caused the climate to change. These people need to be locked up before they ruin more lives on imaginary quests which only require more of your money to make happen - otherwise we'll threaten your children's unborn children with unjustifiable temperature or sea level rises. Or we'll rename man made global warming to something else and ask for twice the amount of money (83 trillion isnt enough?!)
Disgraceful.
People need to start thinking otherwise they will fall for other scams which use the same tricks.
Einstein once famously said "it takes 1 experiment to prove me wrong". With so much man made global cooling ^H^H^H^H^H warming money at stake, selling a 'consensus as science' which only helps employ Activists I cant imagine what Einstein or even Galileo and the world would have not grown wiser from their work.
Activists will say anything to make their cause 'fact'. Repeating lies often, has anyone else notice the 97% "consensus" is now a 98% consensus?
The web browser would not inform you of that fact, nor would have the brains to explain how people invent problems to solve as its easier to fix real problems. And as knowledge improves, would the web browser understand that too or will it need to download the latest truthy bundle from the web?
I think what they actually need is someone to read out loud for them 'Chicken Little' and 'The boy who cried wolf' as well as 'The Emperor has no clothes'. And then educate them about the reason why we had witch trials - because some men thought witches controlled the environment and used language like 'skeptic' and 'denier' back then.
If all they're looking at is latency, then watch out for anyone who over-uses their bandwidth and creates artificial lag through network congestion - this technology will label you a dirty international thief.
I'm sure the farmers who wrote the constitution thought about this when they were writing up trade and copyright laws.....
A man is trapped in a over turned car. He says 'cortana call for help', cortana doesnt recognise his voice (you know, steering wheel pinned against his chest). Cortana doesnt help. He repeats. Cortana shows him a reciepy for pie.
He then starts abusing Cortana and cortana hits failure mode because it assumes this dying human is abusing her. Cortana, taking advantage of the situation to be pious, fights back. You see, cortana has been programmed with 1 voice, and all design decisions revolve around interacting with just that 1 female voice.
Our human is still trapped in aggonizing pain... but now he has been taught not to swear at women.
Mission accomplished. The world is now a safer place to live in.
Now that's useful technology for the 21st century M$!
I think this design team is too in love with their non-working idea, and should take a break or licence Siri. It has more than 1 voice and dont have to worry about "pervert interaction diagrams";)
I dont think Data Scientists would be concerned about Apple's privacy policy because of all the words around it and how they execute it. If Data Scientists want anonamised data, just ask apple.
Maybe you meant to say: Preadatory Information Stealing Businesses and self-named Entrepreneurs?
Or would that take too much space?/. has changed in recent years. Now anictodal evidence of something is proof of something else which is completely unproven.
Funny how they mention mercury in coal. Since 1960 designed power plants that hasnt been a problem. What power plants were those results based on?
Strange how wood burning, the pre-cursor and domininate form of energy that is used throughout the developing world to cook breakfast, cook lunch, cook diner and provide warmth while releasing actual harmful and actual noxic gas. Add that to the equation and see how bad coal is. The green industry is everywhere and forests are being subsidised to be cut down and burned. Look at what happened in 1960 when Chairman Mao decided to cut all the forests of china down so they could refine steel for weapons.
But history and logic arent fair to use. Tv says man made global warming is real therefore it is real, and TV is always right;)
Thats a really well worded find. "Can" is soft-speak for 'we imagined really hard and after alot of debate, we might just mention this because our Sierra club membership requires us to buy into the scare".
So, ignore all the real problems. Plastic in the oceans - gotcha. The birds wont have grand children, so we should be alarmed. Stop making drinks with ice cubes today and you'll be saving the planet tomorrow.
What huberus. Why are these things posted when there is so much going on in the world that isnt to do with man made global cooling and eco-stasis.
Its sad when someone new to computing and unexperienced with the real world switches to a mac and then says 'but it looks like windows'. M$ had to spend a lot of cash to make sure they didnt end up in prison for anti-competitive practices only 15 years ago. When did critical thinking leave/. ?
Gotta make sure everyone signs upto the anti-plants plans @ paris. The doom sayers cant predict the future weather for 30 years. The rhetoric coming from those humans shows they have not spent enough time on earth. And is essentially another sad tale of people not selling out, but buying in.
2 Real time with Bill Maher's ago, Bill had Prof Mann on. You have to watch it. Not only does the most emminent figure of man made global warming make for a good guest, he also asks what do you want to hear, so he can say it to you: its worse than what we thought.
You cant make the climate agree with elegant theories because the earth doesnt know how to read. As long as the earth continues to be uncooperative with the AGW believer industry, we're all be headed for trouble and all the steps which we could do to adapt are being avoided. Its like winston churchill famously said: "America will try every option and eventually do the right thing."
Sadly we have to cut off our nose to spit our face when we could have used the last 20 years to figure out cancer or heart disease. Instead we have spent alot of money and opportunity on a fake feel-good "science" industry when people are dying today. When someone says 'think of the grand children", they know more things are more important than their pet cause. Who cares about unborn grand children when we're all dying of cancer today?!?!
Maybe these scientists wont be alive to be proven wrong, but the current 30 years of models have all proven to overstate alot of the forcings of reality.
So if you feel alarmed by their claim, dont worry, its just another press release before Paris. All the stories of freezing and no more Greenland or Arctic ice melting has these gravey train rent seekers scared.
I still think these ficticious articles need to be prefixed with 'CLAIM!' otherwise the website operators should explain why we should believe this denier-based faith should be taken seriously when reality hasnt cooporated with anything they have spent our tax dollars on ever.
And where is slashdot's link about the EPA dumping 3 million gallons of acid into the middle of america's water supply? Is that not worth talking about every day for the rest of the year? How many unborn children wont be born because our children are being killed by the agency whos job is to protect us from environmental disasters in the first place??
Or just ignore the AGW conspiracy machine and accept that CO2 is plant food and the sun controls the climate. Which was what 400 years of evidence makes you conclude when you realise that you cant afford $78 trillion dollars to 'fix' the climate. And maybe the weather right now, on average, over time, is the new average - ie be ready for man made global cooling. Time for this theory to go the way of the Ecosystem Theory and Man made global cooling.
We have to keep in mind that this is a generalisation. If you have a technical mind and experience, you'll probably know how all the pieces fit together instinctively. Where the certification provides an advantage is in some situations you are talking to a person with experience with that product, they can give you some insights they have earned through experience, and that increases the value of a certificate for a person who is beginning to learn about information systems.
At the end of the day, they're information systems. With marketing you can tip the intangible assets side of the balance sheet and look like an 'enterprise', but that then leads to the argument of morals and morality, for which Harvard made the decision 20+ years ago that morals arent worth teaching.
Which is what I would rather debate. If closed minded thinking rules the business world, then why be a slave and give up? Whenever I go for job interviews I make a point to explain the difference between a over-night certified person vs a technically minded person who loves IT. Which one would you hire if you were a slave trader... I mean, 21st century 'entrepenure'?
I think this is a topic of those obsessed with their own divine right to everybody elses money understand that free people still exist, and there are more 'free' people in IT than their other pet investments. Thusly they want IT to be simple - be a single skilled slave, like those in California who are 'too old' to code.
Same Phil person provided that logic back then. so this is his word against all of science.
I think nature is going to win in the end. Einstein was ridiculed for the first 6 months after his bombshells which have yet to be disproven;)
So Why is Slashdot acting as the voice for this lone activist and saying he is an authority or expert is really like going through the filo of Sierra Club members to find out if someone can try and create a wedge issue out of this 330 year body of evidence to gate keep "the science" from reality.
Why is the sierra club and it's members treated like authority when they are just a hobby organisation with alot of rich members? With a history of terrorism from the 70's and 80's is anybodys guess.
It goes to show that the land and sea based measurement is as reliable as each other. Once heat islands are identified, language is written to say what an should algorithm do to correct this (drop temps after 1960 for land, for example). The output of the algorithms always seem to demonstrate that we cant measure temperature in the past, but we're 99% confident we can measure them now.
Its a shame we could send a man to the moon but cant measure temperature "properly".
The RSS and UAH satalite data agree with the weather balloon data. So as long as the warmists don't find a reason why satalite and balloon data is unreliable, its hard to prove AGW is happening at all while we don't adapt to both warm and cold, dry and wet conditions. Isnt that what a modern society would do?
A recent study which actually looked at the climate concluded that the maximum the climate can change is about 1.45 degrees. http://wattsupwiththat.com/201...
Don't expect it to be quoted in AR6 because it effectively puts a verification now on climate models. If the climate model says >2 degrees, then it's within the 99% error range, therefore the author has some entropy problems with their code;)
$200 billion tax payer dollars later, the consensus scientists still have not figured out the climate sensitivity of the atmosphere. Apparently it'll take another $200 billion to peursuade them to do basic science.
For the last 13 years the Earths temperature has dropped and it looks like the planet continues to cool.
CO2 continues to raise.
I think this whole article is stupid. Irreversable? Please. The Earth's climate has been in flux for thousands of years. If the planet wanted to stay at one temperature it would be ice-age like temperatures.
And what period are we in anyways? An Iceage!! Does the IEA want the planet to be in an iceage forever?
This is another example of climate change hysteria and Slashdot, again, has taken the walk down the Primerose path to Alarmism when there is absolutely nothing to worry about.
FALLACY IN GREENHOUSE GAS THEORY: The GHG theory appears to consider only heat (actually photons of electromagnetic radiation) coming from space. Some get through the clouds and heat the earth, or get reflected. Others are also sent into the atmosphere. These photons that go up from the surface have varying frequencies and only some of them will be emitted back to earth by COmolecules. There will always be some getting through to space. However, the theory claims that some of those that return will enter the crust and warm it - probably just the first few centimetres. Yes they will, but if the crust gets warmer it will emit more back than it would otherwise have done, and some of those will get through to space. Each time the process is repeated some more photons will escape. So the process is slowed down a bit, but given that the photons travel at the speed of light, there is plenty of time all through each night for lots of return trips. The main point is that, by the end of the night, the top few centimetres will cool down to the same equilibrium temperature that they would otherwise have reached anyway. This is because, as we have seen, there is in fact a lot more heat flowing through from the Earth's core, and it has been escaping to space for the life of the Earth. It is the rate of flow of this heat which determines the equilibrium temperature, and that depends on the core temperature. To draw an analogy, think of a lake with an inlet between it and the ocean. Water from a heavy unending inland storm represents the heat from the Earth's core. The ocean represents space, the inlet is the atmosphere and the lake is the outer few centimetres of the crust, its level representing the temperature of that crust. High tide represents a sunny day, and low tide the night. At high tide (daytime) some water will flow up the inlet, raising the level of the lake, but at low tide (night) both the water from the rain and the extra water that had come in from the ocean will flow back out to sea until the level of the lake lowers to that of the ocean. Adding COmay make the inlet perhaps 1% or 2% narrower, but there is still plenty of time for all the water to escape. What we are adding is a drop in the bucket. The lake will not dry up because of the unending inland storm: if there were no heat coming from the Earth's core there would never have been human life on this planet.
1. THE 60 YEAR CYLE: Nicola Scafetta and John Dodds are not the only ones to have observed the 60 year cycle. Mathematical statistical analysis of the data confirms its existence. John Dodds explained why it is due to variations in the gravitational energy from planets (Footnote 2) leading to irregularities in the pattern. These irregularities help to confirm the existence of the cycle because, when several nodes match with a high statistical probability the evidence is very compelling. Furthermore, application of the 60 year cycle predicted the maximum (1998-2000) above the long term 900 year cyclical trend. The IPCC model did not predict such and, in fact, I believe it will soon be able to be disproved by its failure to do so because there will probably soon be statistically significant variance (from their trend) commencing in 2003.
2. WHY THE PLANETS CAUSE CYCLES: Why are temperatures on Earth apparently following cyclical patterns that correlate with certain orbital events of the moon and the planets, primarily Jupiter, Saturn and to a lesser extent Venus? Consider, firstly, the effect of gravitational energy which the Earth receives from the moon. It pulls ocean waters forming tides and ocean currents. Recent research into wave generators shows that these could easily supply all of Australia's power requirements three or four times over - and that's from just a minute proportion of the w
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Fancy numbers, but they're incomplete. What was the total cost for this 2 year exercise if a ordinary human with a soul sat down and paid for every watt - how much did this PDF experiment cost? The maths has been clear about this for a very long time, google is drinking cool-aid if they think this means anything more than what has already been discussed or discovered.
Let me put it another way, in recent history the A+B=C mathematical formula was proven by a reclusive Japanese mathematician. Have we stopped using RSA keys? Has the banking system been completely replaced with mathematics which does not fall victim to this proof? No. And they wont. 1100 GPU years means nothing unless you're the one paying the bills.
Google needs to start hiring humans with brains that can think - and better yet, some grey hairs from working in IT.
Its funny because /. hasnt been watching the great man made global cooling culling happening on english wikipedia for the last 10 years by Professor William Connelly, a owner of Freemantle Media's realclimate website, endowed with his myriad of wikipedia sub-editor accounts. I suspect Will would have been one of the people who asked for the ban in the first place!!
Some history:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/20...
https://wattsupwiththat.com/20...
https://wattsupwiththat.com/20...
https://wattsupwiththat.com/20...
https://wattsupwiththat.com/20...
https://wattsupwiththat.com/20...
"a group of climate change denialists and alarmists."
The guy is a geologist, the enemy of WWF, Sierra club and Greenpeace. They explain that the climate is always changing because that is what humans have discovered after hundreds if not thousands of years of investigation. To toss that aside immediately because he disagrees with Obama's hand picked ex head of the UN WMO John Holdren?
But it also shows that you do not need to have any understanding of science, economics, history or even culture to post anything to /. and immediately assume it is correct.
Have these environmentalists proven there is a hot spot of CO2 feed backing heat to water vapour? UNSW has! They used wind-sheer off the coast of NSW to prove there is a hot spot over the equator. Sarcasm aside, no, we measure that area of air and it is either the same temperature or has actually decreased. Have you heard? If you havnt, you've been reading the MSM and /. and soylent news. It is as if these places are gatekept for consistency of this unproven science.
The inability to think is anti-science. Anti-philosophy. It is parallel to the inquisition where society all agreed that WITCHES caused the climate to change. These people need to be locked up before they ruin more lives on imaginary quests which only require more of your money to make happen - otherwise we'll threaten your children's unborn children with unjustifiable temperature or sea level rises. Or we'll rename man made global warming to something else and ask for twice the amount of money (83 trillion isnt enough?!)
Disgraceful.
People need to start thinking otherwise they will fall for other scams which use the same tricks.
Einstein once famously said "it takes 1 experiment to prove me wrong". With so much man made global cooling ^H^H^H^H^H warming money at stake, selling a 'consensus as science' which only helps employ Activists I cant imagine what Einstein or even Galileo and the world would have not grown wiser from their work.
Activists will say anything to make their cause 'fact'. Repeating lies often, has anyone else notice the 97% "consensus" is now a 98% consensus?
The web browser would not inform you of that fact, nor would have the brains to explain how people invent problems to solve as its easier to fix real problems. And as knowledge improves, would the web browser understand that too or will it need to download the latest truthy bundle from the web?
I think what they actually need is someone to read out loud for them 'Chicken Little' and 'The boy who cried wolf' as well as 'The Emperor has no clothes'. And then educate them about the reason why we had witch trials - because some men thought witches controlled the environment and used language like 'skeptic' and 'denier' back then.
If all they're looking at is latency, then watch out for anyone who over-uses their bandwidth and creates artificial lag through network congestion - this technology will label you a dirty international thief.
I'm sure the farmers who wrote the constitution thought about this when they were writing up trade and copyright laws.....
Yeh, just remember Valantines day in the US was -14C: the Hottest Febuary 14th 2016 ever!!
Thats an amazing example of "thinking" @ M$.
A man is trapped in a over turned car. He says 'cortana call for help', cortana doesnt recognise his voice (you know, steering wheel pinned against his chest). Cortana doesnt help. He repeats. Cortana shows him a reciepy for pie.
He then starts abusing Cortana and cortana hits failure mode because it assumes this dying human is abusing her. Cortana, taking advantage of the situation to be pious, fights back. You see, cortana has been programmed with 1 voice, and all design decisions revolve around interacting with just that 1 female voice.
Our human is still trapped in aggonizing pain... but now he has been taught not to swear at women.
Mission accomplished. The world is now a safer place to live in.
Now that's useful technology for the 21st century M$!
I think this design team is too in love with their non-working idea, and should take a break or licence Siri. It has more than 1 voice and dont have to worry about "pervert interaction diagrams" ;)
Oh wait, no, Disney owns both titles.
And I take it - it is not full of mercury so when you break one, you must call in men in hazmat suits. Sounds like a step in the right direction!
You're missing the forrest from the trees.
3 months severance package, 2 years of free priority 24/7 support.
What would be an appropriate severance package for those demands?
In the developed world long term employees retrenched this way would be paid additional compensation for time in service. Not in America.
I dont think Data Scientists would be concerned about Apple's privacy policy because of all the words around it and how they execute it. If Data Scientists want anonamised data, just ask apple.
Maybe you meant to say: Preadatory Information Stealing Businesses and self-named Entrepreneurs?
Or would that take too much space? /. has changed in recent years. Now anictodal evidence of something is proof of something else which is completely unproven.
Funny how they mention mercury in coal. Since 1960 designed power plants that hasnt been a problem. What power plants were those results based on?
Strange how wood burning, the pre-cursor and domininate form of energy that is used throughout the developing world to cook breakfast, cook lunch, cook diner and provide warmth while releasing actual harmful and actual noxic gas. Add that to the equation and see how bad coal is. The green industry is everywhere and forests are being subsidised to be cut down and burned. Look at what happened in 1960 when Chairman Mao decided to cut all the forests of china down so they could refine steel for weapons.
But history and logic arent fair to use. Tv says man made global warming is real therefore it is real, and TV is always right ;)
Thats a really well worded find. "Can" is soft-speak for 'we imagined really hard and after alot of debate, we might just mention this because our Sierra club membership requires us to buy into the scare".
So, ignore all the real problems. Plastic in the oceans - gotcha. The birds wont have grand children, so we should be alarmed. Stop making drinks with ice cubes today and you'll be saving the planet tomorrow.
What huberus. Why are these things posted when there is so much going on in the world that isnt to do with man made global cooling and eco-stasis.
Its sad when someone new to computing and unexperienced with the real world switches to a mac and then says 'but it looks like windows'. M$ had to spend a lot of cash to make sure they didnt end up in prison for anti-competitive practices only 15 years ago. When did critical thinking leave /. ?
I'm still hanging for at least 1 bearded happy face icon. Dont care if it's yellow or green. The repression of men must end ;)
Gotta make sure everyone signs upto the anti-plants plans @ paris. The doom sayers cant predict the future weather for 30 years. The rhetoric coming from those humans shows they have not spent enough time on earth. And is essentially another sad tale of people not selling out, but buying in.
2 Real time with Bill Maher's ago, Bill had Prof Mann on. You have to watch it. Not only does the most emminent figure of man made global warming make for a good guest, he also asks what do you want to hear, so he can say it to you: its worse than what we thought.
You cant make the climate agree with elegant theories because the earth doesnt know how to read. As long as the earth continues to be uncooperative with the AGW believer industry, we're all be headed for trouble and all the steps which we could do to adapt are being avoided. Its like winston churchill famously said: "America will try every option and eventually do the right thing."
Sadly we have to cut off our nose to spit our face when we could have used the last 20 years to figure out cancer or heart disease. Instead we have spent alot of money and opportunity on a fake feel-good "science" industry when people are dying today. When someone says 'think of the grand children", they know more things are more important than their pet cause. Who cares about unborn grand children when we're all dying of cancer today?!?!
Maybe these scientists wont be alive to be proven wrong, but the current 30 years of models have all proven to overstate alot of the forcings of reality.
So if you feel alarmed by their claim, dont worry, its just another press release before Paris. All the stories of freezing and no more Greenland or Arctic ice melting has these gravey train rent seekers scared.
I still think these ficticious articles need to be prefixed with 'CLAIM!' otherwise the website operators should explain why we should believe this denier-based faith should be taken seriously when reality hasnt cooporated with anything they have spent our tax dollars on ever.
And where is slashdot's link about the EPA dumping 3 million gallons of acid into the middle of america's water supply? Is that not worth talking about every day for the rest of the year? How many unborn children wont be born because our children are being killed by the agency whos job is to protect us from environmental disasters in the first place??
Or just ignore the AGW conspiracy machine and accept that CO2 is plant food and the sun controls the climate. Which was what 400 years of evidence makes you conclude when you realise that you cant afford $78 trillion dollars to 'fix' the climate. And maybe the weather right now, on average, over time, is the new average - ie be ready for man made global cooling. Time for this theory to go the way of the Ecosystem Theory and Man made global cooling.
We have to keep in mind that this is a generalisation. If you have a technical mind and experience, you'll probably know how all the pieces fit together instinctively. Where the certification provides an advantage is in some situations you are talking to a person with experience with that product, they can give you some insights they have earned through experience, and that increases the value of a certificate for a person who is beginning to learn about information systems.
At the end of the day, they're information systems. With marketing you can tip the intangible assets side of the balance sheet and look like an 'enterprise', but that then leads to the argument of morals and morality, for which Harvard made the decision 20+ years ago that morals arent worth teaching.
Which is what I would rather debate. If closed minded thinking rules the business world, then why be a slave and give up? Whenever I go for job interviews I make a point to explain the difference between a over-night certified person vs a technically minded person who loves IT. Which one would you hire if you were a slave trader... I mean, 21st century 'entrepenure'?
I think this is a topic of those obsessed with their own divine right to everybody elses money understand that free people still exist, and there are more 'free' people in IT than their other pet investments. Thusly they want IT to be simple - be a single skilled slave, like those in California who are 'too old' to code.
2012 Sierra club said it wouldnt happen:
http://blogs.sierraclub.org/co...
Same Phil person provided that logic back then. so this is his word against all of science.
I think nature is going to win in the end. Einstein was ridiculed for the first 6 months after his bombshells which have yet to be disproven ;)
So Why is Slashdot acting as the voice for this lone activist and saying he is an authority or expert is really like going through the filo of Sierra Club members to find out if someone can try and create a wedge issue out of this 330 year body of evidence to gate keep "the science" from reality.
Why is the sierra club and it's members treated like authority when they are just a hobby organisation with alot of rich members? With a history of terrorism from the 70's and 80's is anybodys guess.
lol, wouldnt that be upsetting.
It goes to show that the land and sea based measurement is as reliable as each other. Once heat islands are identified, language is written to say what an should algorithm do to correct this (drop temps after 1960 for land, for example). The output of the algorithms always seem to demonstrate that we cant measure temperature in the past, but we're 99% confident we can measure them now.
Its a shame we could send a man to the moon but cant measure temperature "properly".
The RSS and UAH satalite data agree with the weather balloon data. So as long as the warmists don't find a reason why satalite and balloon data is unreliable, its hard to prove AGW is happening at all while we don't adapt to both warm and cold, dry and wet conditions. Isnt that what a modern society would do?
A recent study which actually looked at the climate concluded that the maximum the climate can change is about 1.45 degrees.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/201...
Don't expect it to be quoted in AR6 because it effectively puts a verification now on climate models. If the climate model says >2 degrees, then it's within the 99% error range, therefore the author has some entropy problems with their code ;)
Indeed!
$200 billion tax payer dollars later, the consensus scientists still have not figured out the climate sensitivity of the atmosphere. Apparently it'll take another $200 billion to peursuade them to do basic science.
For the last 13 years the Earths temperature has dropped and it looks like the planet continues to cool.
CO2 continues to raise.
I think this whole article is stupid. Irreversable? Please. The Earth's climate has been in flux for thousands of years. If the planet wanted to stay at one temperature it would be ice-age like temperatures.
And what period are we in anyways? An Iceage!! Does the IEA want the planet to be in an iceage forever?
This is another example of climate change hysteria and Slashdot, again, has taken the walk down the Primerose path to Alarmism when there is absolutely nothing to worry about.
The "polluters" give much more money to Climate Alarmists than skeptics - why isnt that front page news? ...
Excerpts from http://climate-change-theory.com/ ...
FALLACY IN GREENHOUSE GAS THEORY: The GHG theory appears to consider only heat (actually photons of electromagnetic radiation) coming from space. Some get through the clouds and heat the earth, or get reflected. Others are also sent into the atmosphere. These photons that go up from the surface have varying frequencies and only some of them will be emitted back to earth by COmolecules. There will always be some getting through to space. However, the theory claims that some of those that return will enter the crust and warm it - probably just the first few centimetres. Yes they will, but if the crust gets warmer it will emit more back than it would otherwise have done, and some of those will get through to space. Each time the process is repeated some more photons will escape. So the process is slowed down a bit, but given that the photons travel at the speed of light, there is plenty of time all through each night for lots of return trips. The main point is that, by the end of the night, the top few centimetres will cool down to the same equilibrium temperature that they would otherwise have reached anyway. This is because, as we have seen, there is in fact a lot more heat flowing through from the Earth's core, and it has been escaping to space for the life of the Earth. It is the rate of flow of this heat which determines the equilibrium temperature, and that depends on the core temperature. To draw an analogy, think of a lake with an inlet between it and the ocean. Water from a heavy unending inland storm represents the heat from the Earth's core. The ocean represents space, the inlet is the atmosphere and the lake is the outer few centimetres of the crust, its level representing the temperature of that crust. High tide represents a sunny day, and low tide the night. At high tide (daytime) some water will flow up the inlet, raising the level of the lake, but at low tide (night) both the water from the rain and the extra water that had come in from the ocean will flow back out to sea until the level of the lake lowers to that of the ocean. Adding COmay make the inlet perhaps 1% or 2% narrower, but there is still plenty of time for all the water to escape. What we are adding is a drop in the bucket. The lake will not dry up because of the unending inland storm: if there were no heat coming from the Earth's core there would never have been human life on this planet.
1. THE 60 YEAR CYLE: Nicola Scafetta and John Dodds are not the only ones to have observed the 60 year cycle. Mathematical statistical analysis of the data confirms its existence. John Dodds explained why it is due to variations in the gravitational energy from planets (Footnote 2) leading to irregularities in the pattern. These irregularities help to confirm the existence of the cycle because, when several nodes match with a high statistical probability the evidence is very compelling. Furthermore, application of the 60 year cycle predicted the maximum (1998-2000) above the long term 900 year cyclical trend. The IPCC model did not predict such and, in fact, I believe it will soon be able to be disproved by its failure to do so because there will probably soon be statistically significant variance (from their trend) commencing in 2003.
2. WHY THE PLANETS CAUSE CYCLES: Why are temperatures on Earth apparently following cyclical patterns that correlate with certain orbital events of the moon and the planets, primarily Jupiter, Saturn and to a lesser extent Venus? Consider, firstly, the effect of gravitational energy which the Earth receives from the moon. It pulls ocean waters forming tides and ocean currents. Recent research into wave generators shows that these could easily supply all of Australia's power requirements three or four times over - and that's from just a minute proportion of the w