The reason for this is that RAM that comes off the same assembly line is not necessarily as "good" as RAM that came off right before or after it. In making RAM or even CPUs there is always going to be a margin of error. micro components can fail, traces can be too thin, silicon can be impure... What happens is sometimes they try to produce 3200 RAM and the memory module cant run at the designed speed... but it can run at say 2700 with no problems.
Just like that you have two different speed chips with the same model number because they are in fact the same type of chip. Its just rated at a different speed. This is exactly how processors are sorted and rated. This is just the tip of the iceberg though when talking about the quality of RAM remember finding RAM for early athlonXP boards? Yeah that was fun. I am not saying this was the case but it could have been.
Re:wake me up
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Linux, Inc.
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Word.
However it is hard to deny that Linux/OSS is accelerating. I dont read slashdot to find out how fast though, too much hype, not enough numbers. I think we are a couple more years yet from takeoff. The kernel and the DEs still need work...
dbus, udev, hal, better config tools, groupware products - all need to be refined. Linux (actually DEs) are still lacking in a few areas. I believe the desktop market has to take off before the server will. Sure people use servers now in large numbers but lots of companies want a single platform for clients and servers.
If you have an LCD with 25ms or less, you really shouldnt notice a difference. if you have 16ms you definitely wont. My 35ms however is very noticible. It depends on the refresh and response time as to how motion video or games will render.
They have dropped in price considerably. Two years ago buying a 19" LCD with 25ms would have run you 700$. I just bought a 19" Princeton LCD with 16ms for $340 shipped. If you look around you can find 17 " Models right around $220.
If you are shopping at a consumer electronics store, the price has not dropped significantly because people will still pay the premium. Generally you can buy an LCD online for 40% less than a local store.
Also along those lines you can buy a 30" LCD HDTV now for $1300 at Sams Club. Try and tell me that is the same price from 2 years ago...
Large corporations do not get to vote. Large corporations are made up of "people" who do get to vote. They have their own values and beliefs some of which may even be more moral than yours or mine. To simply pass blame onto corporations is covering up the problem instead of solving it.
The way to change todays America is not to change presidents or even parties. Its electing your local reps based on their beliefs no matter what party they subscribe to. They can then gain the support of small groups of people who will in turn gain the support of larger groups of people across your state or region.
Statistically, The parties are not voting inline anymore. There are just as many democrats as republicans that abuse their position by taking informal bribes. There are just as many reps from each party voting for money or self preservation. I do personally know state reps and congressional reps who do not take money. It is completely unfair to encompass the entire government into your "analysis".
People despite their faults, "people" do run this country. It is up to us to elect moral, trusting people into power. If we dont, we will end up with presidents like the last two(Clinton and BushJr). It is a government for and by the people, quit whining about "The Man" and vote, get your friends and family to vote. Talk about politics to people whom you completely disagree with. Dont spread fud about your "enemy", challenge them. Find out why they believe what they believe. Otherwise you will never convince anyone if you dont know their reasons.
[i]How many times do we have to say it's not stealing????[/i]
As many times as you want. Its a "free" country.
It is stealing. Just like you can steal ideas, goods, and literary works. Go ahead give me the typical slashdot definition of stealing.
If you choose to buy into the slashdot political/social dogma, you _will_ be saying this over and over again. The laws of the US and the majority currently appear to disagree with you. If the majority doesnt disagree with you, then there are two possible reasons. Either the majority (including yourself) refuses to vote, which means they are just plain stupid and lazy as a whole (no offense to you) -OR- you are simply part of the minority opinion. Either way nothing will change. Its stealing.
***waiting to be modded as flaimbait/troll***
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KDE 3.4 goes Beta
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So you really have no basis to make this claim? Saying that GTK is "great" seems like you really dont know what the differences are in the rendering methodology of the two.
If you knew the frameworks that drive these to graphics engines, you would know that Qt is far more advanced. Qt Faster? probably but its apples and oranges. GTK more usable? Sure is but that comes at a price.
but on a regular TV, which is most of what you'll probably watch
I keep hearing people say this. Coming from PCMag its not too suprising I guess. In just about any medium sized city now every local channel broadcasts HD. Combine that with movie channels, espn, discovery, NFL Sunday ticket and several others, for a lot of people just about everything they would watch is in HD.
You seem to still be complaining about configuration issues within subversion rather than subversion itself.
I am not sure what environment you live in but in mine we only have 100Mbs and everyone has 120GB HDs. The server has 1TB of raid storage with 4 network adaptors each with its own svnserve bound to it. Our project has 55,000 source files with 120 active developers. No problems here. We moved off a proprietary system that cost 750k a year to this which costs 120k a year (one devs salary). Compared to our old system, this is fast as hell. A checkout of a 4000k module takes about a minute. We even run a change request management system on the same server...
Webdav is and always will be slow, its just not an efficient protocol. You may have had problems with subversion but this sounds completely specific to the setup you work in. A properly implemented system should run very smooth. I am not jabbing, just showing subversion can be successful with the right setup.
So you are saying that firefox in gnome now only takes twice as long to load as konqueror does in KDE? KDE also has a smaller footprint (155MB foot for basic KDE install)?
Not trying to fire up the old arg, just nice to see the facts. This type of performance tuning has been missing from linux for a while. I am glad to see there are people trying improve this area of *nix.
For all you guys making fun of this guy, it's possible he expects to make money off it. If he manages to sell resources and land from the island, he could then exchange his profits for US dollars.
Ok, BS. Something is only worth what someone else will pay for it. You may think that painting by your grandma is worth everything in the world but if it burns in a fire, you will get market value or a presettled compensation from the Insurance company.
According to the article, he will be allowed to sell plots of land on the island worth around $30,000.
Again, someone will have to buy it first.
He may not be as much of a dolt as you think.
He is a dolt and must count on other dolts to purchase make believe land from him. If he is successful and does sell his land, it simply means he is not as much as a dolt as the people that bought from him. That of course could mean he becomes less of a dolt or the people that bought are simply bigger dolts in the first place.
I think I became dumber after reading the article.
Very big difference. Unfortunately your parent got modded up and thus several thousand people are now dumber.
qmeu is usable but pretty slow. vmware with modern hardware is plenty fast for office apps and testing. gaming will have to wait for the next revolution in consumer processors.
Depends on what is changing for a server. gcc? glibc? kernels? Yeah those should rarely change for a server. X (some run X on servers for management), nmap, alsa? Those can be updated with little affect on a "server".
Lots of ports based distros allow a variety when it comes to updating. Gentoo for one, you can choose those critical pieces and make them stay the same where as you can also specify that nmap should always be the most current possible. You dont have to specify this every time either, you set it once and forget about it. Does debian have this functionality? I know you can pretty much install any unstable version of software at any time, but can you tell debian to always install "unstable" versions of particular software?
Its not a troll, its a valid complaint for those who choose to not ignore the current problems in gnome2.8.
I like gnome2.8 and use it at home for the family. For that use, its unmatchable, even against windows. I use KDE3.3 at work for development. Here is what I have personally seen though in gnome2.8:
When using the file chooser, it is possible for it to not use / as the root directory when browsing in some cases. It is also possible to click on your home directory on the left and completely lose access to the root filesystem. There is no back or up button so in that case the user must close the file chooser and reopen if they lose their spot.
If I do an AltF2 in gnome 2.8 to run a program, it takes 4-5 seconds to get the second character. I know its trying to autocomplete but that is ridiculous. In KDE, is instantaneous.
When I open firefox or even galeon, it takes 5-10 seconds to actually get a window. In KDE, konqueror loads in less than 2 seconds, everytime.
If I want to add a base item to the main menu, I am SOL in gnome.
There are three different screens configuring CD actions when CD/DVD is put in the drive. Each one does something different and only a specific combination of options across all of them will make gnome do what I want it to.
If you are using an app that utilizes the gnome filechooser and want to load a file from the local network, you are SOL unless you have previously created a network device/mount. There is no location bar that can be used to manually type in an address (for me ssh:// and smb://) on the fly. Sure grandma doesnt need this, but developers and power users sure do. Its not even an option.
Why does gnome still show http source when doing a http://www.cnn.com from nautilus? I would think that this would at least open up your default browser and give you the website. I dont know why an everyday user would want to see the source from a website instead of the rendered website. This is probably due tot he fact that gnome believes file browsers and webbrowsers are two separate applications I imagine.
Gnome needs to show either OSS or alsa, but not both (but support both). Its hard to determine which sound bar to use to get the appropriate sound level. When your kernel loads both modules. Sure I can disable one, but why cant gnome just choose one on the fly to use and stick with it.
Quality standards are good but this is a basic skill known by just about any competent developer.
I would push more for better design patterns personally. This is what separates a coder from a software engineer. Anyone can hack out code that is formatted pretty and has compliant naming conventions. On the other hand it takes years to learn and practice good design. Unfortunately the proven veterans voices get lost in the mix far too often and the wrong path is chosen. Before you know it, you have a unportable and unmodular project on your hands.
I could name two very large competing projects where this is blatently obvious but I do not want to start a flame war =)
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The reason for this is that RAM that comes off the same assembly line is not necessarily as "good" as RAM that came off right before or after it. In making RAM or even CPUs there is always going to be a margin of error. micro components can fail, traces can be too thin, silicon can be impure... What happens is sometimes they try to produce 3200 RAM and the memory module cant run at the designed speed... but it can run at say 2700 with no problems.
Just like that you have two different speed chips with the same model number because they are in fact the same type of chip. Its just rated at a different speed. This is exactly how processors are sorted and rated. This is just the tip of the iceberg though when talking about the quality of RAM remember finding RAM for early athlonXP boards? Yeah that was fun. I am not saying this was the case but it could have been.
Word.
However it is hard to deny that Linux/OSS is accelerating. I dont read slashdot to find out how fast though, too much hype, not enough numbers. I think we are a couple more years yet from takeoff. The kernel and the DEs still need work...
dbus, udev, hal, better config tools, groupware products - all need to be refined. Linux (actually DEs) are still lacking in a few areas. I believe the desktop market has to take off before the server will. Sure people use servers now in large numbers but lots of companies want a single platform for clients and servers.
If you have an LCD with 25ms or less, you really shouldnt notice a difference. if you have 16ms you definitely wont. My 35ms however is very noticible. It depends on the refresh and response time as to how motion video or games will render.
They have dropped in price considerably. Two years ago buying a 19" LCD with 25ms would have run you 700$. I just bought a 19" Princeton LCD with 16ms for $340 shipped. If you look around you can find 17 " Models right around $220.
If you are shopping at a consumer electronics store, the price has not dropped significantly because people will still pay the premium. Generally you can buy an LCD online for 40% less than a local store.
Also along those lines you can buy a 30" LCD HDTV now for $1300 at Sams Club. Try and tell me that is the same price from 2 years ago...
They are? Why is it the fastest growing display type in the world? Why will it remain so for the next 5 years?
I smell a troll...
Large corporations do not get to vote. Large corporations are made up of "people" who do get to vote. They have their own values and beliefs some of which may even be more moral than yours or mine. To simply pass blame onto corporations is covering up the problem instead of solving it.
The way to change todays America is not to change presidents or even parties. Its electing your local reps based on their beliefs no matter what party they subscribe to. They can then gain the support of small groups of people who will in turn gain the support of larger groups of people across your state or region.
Statistically, The parties are not voting inline anymore. There are just as many democrats as republicans that abuse their position by taking informal bribes. There are just as many reps from each party voting for money or self preservation. I do personally know state reps and congressional reps who do not take money. It is completely unfair to encompass the entire government into your "analysis".
People despite their faults, "people" do run this country. It is up to us to elect moral, trusting people into power. If we dont, we will end up with presidents like the last two(Clinton and BushJr). It is a government for and by the people, quit whining about "The Man" and vote, get your friends and family to vote. Talk about politics to people whom you completely disagree with. Dont spread fud about your "enemy", challenge them. Find out why they believe what they believe. Otherwise you will never convince anyone if you dont know their reasons.
Thank you for reiterating the slashdot definition of stealing.
Copywrite Infringement is a subset of stealing. Dont blame me, that is the legal definition in the US.
[i]How many times do we have to say it's not stealing????[/i]
As many times as you want. Its a "free" country.
It is stealing. Just like you can steal ideas, goods, and literary works. Go ahead give me the typical slashdot definition of stealing.
If you choose to buy into the slashdot political/social dogma, you _will_ be saying this over and over again. The laws of the US and the majority currently appear to disagree with you. If the majority doesnt disagree with you, then there are two possible reasons. Either the majority (including yourself) refuses to vote, which means they are just plain stupid and lazy as a whole (no offense to you) -OR- you are simply part of the minority opinion. Either way nothing will change. Its stealing.
***waiting to be modded as flaimbait/troll***
So you really have no basis to make this claim? Saying that GTK is "great" seems like you really dont know what the differences are in the rendering methodology of the two.
If you knew the frameworks that drive these to graphics engines, you would know that Qt is far more advanced. Qt Faster? probably but its apples and oranges. GTK more usable? Sure is but that comes at a price.
It is time to recognize Richard Stallman's place in history as a great modern philosopher.
This post is a joke right?
Stick with kernel 1.3.79 and Apache 1.1 just to be "safe".
but on a regular TV, which is most of what you'll probably watch
I keep hearing people say this. Coming from PCMag its not too suprising I guess. In just about any medium sized city now every local channel broadcasts HD. Combine that with movie channels, espn, discovery, NFL Sunday ticket and several others, for a lot of people just about everything they would watch is in HD.
Most of the readers will be unaware that Firefox does not suffer from the security problems that IE does.
Actually firefox does suffer from some of the same security problems that IE does...
Don't you mean a military funded system that we CITIZENS have been given access to because we paid for it?
Hey! I paid for F-15s but they dont let me fly those! Buttheads...
So now you are saying that subversion doesnt work with open source projects but does for closed source? I am getting really confused...
You seem to still be complaining about configuration issues within subversion rather than subversion itself.
I am not sure what environment you live in but in mine we only have 100Mbs and everyone has 120GB HDs. The server has 1TB of raid storage with 4 network adaptors each with its own svnserve bound to it. Our project has 55,000 source files with 120 active developers. No problems here. We moved off a proprietary system that cost 750k a year to this which costs 120k a year (one devs salary). Compared to our old system, this is fast as hell. A checkout of a 4000k module takes about a minute. We even run a change request management system on the same server...
Webdav is and always will be slow, its just not an efficient protocol. You may have had problems with subversion but this sounds completely specific to the setup you work in. A properly implemented system should run very smooth. I am not jabbing, just showing subversion can be successful with the right setup.
So you are saying that firefox in gnome now only takes twice as long to load as konqueror does in KDE? KDE also has a smaller footprint (155MB foot for basic KDE install)?
Not trying to fire up the old arg, just nice to see the facts. This type of performance tuning has been missing from linux for a while. I am glad to see there are people trying improve this area of *nix.
For all you guys making fun of this guy, it's possible he expects to make money off it. If he manages to sell resources and land from the island, he could then exchange his profits for US dollars.
Ok, BS. Something is only worth what someone else will pay for it. You may think that painting by your grandma is worth everything in the world but if it burns in a fire, you will get market value or a presettled compensation from the Insurance company.
According to the article, he will be allowed to sell plots of land on the island worth around $30,000.
Again, someone will have to buy it first.
He may not be as much of a dolt as you think.
He is a dolt and must count on other dolts to purchase make believe land from him. If he is successful and does sell his land, it simply means he is not as much as a dolt as the people that bought from him. That of course could mean he becomes less of a dolt or the people that bought are simply bigger dolts in the first place.
I think I became dumber after reading the article.
does it support SMP efficiently yet?
That is correct sir.
VMWare is an virtualizer
qemu is an emulator
Very big difference. Unfortunately your parent got modded up and thus several thousand people are now dumber.
qmeu is usable but pretty slow. vmware with modern hardware is plenty fast for office apps and testing. gaming will have to wait for the next revolution in consumer processors.
Depends on what is changing for a server. gcc? glibc? kernels? Yeah those should rarely change for a server. X (some run X on servers for management), nmap, alsa? Those can be updated with little affect on a "server".
Lots of ports based distros allow a variety when it comes to updating. Gentoo for one, you can choose those critical pieces and make them stay the same where as you can also specify that nmap should always be the most current possible. You dont have to specify this every time either, you set it once and forget about it. Does debian have this functionality? I know you can pretty much install any unstable version of software at any time, but can you tell debian to always install "unstable" versions of particular software?
Its not a troll, its a valid complaint for those who choose to not ignore the current problems in gnome2.8.
I like gnome2.8 and use it at home for the family. For that use, its unmatchable, even against windows. I use KDE3.3 at work for development.
Here is what I have personally seen though in gnome2.8:
When using the file chooser, it is possible for it to not use / as the root directory when browsing in some cases. It is also possible to click on your home directory on the left and completely lose access to the root filesystem. There is no back or up button so in that case the user must close the file chooser and reopen if they lose their spot.
If I do an AltF2 in gnome 2.8 to run a program, it takes 4-5 seconds to get the second character. I know its trying to autocomplete but that is ridiculous. In KDE, is instantaneous.
When I open firefox or even galeon, it takes 5-10 seconds to actually get a window. In KDE, konqueror loads in less than 2 seconds, everytime.
If I want to add a base item to the main menu, I am SOL in gnome.
There are three different screens configuring CD actions when CD/DVD is put in the drive. Each one does something different and only a specific combination of options across all of them will make gnome do what I want it to.
If you are using an app that utilizes the gnome filechooser and want to load a file from the local network, you are SOL unless you have previously created a network device/mount. There is no location bar that can be used to manually type in an address (for me ssh:// and smb://) on the fly. Sure grandma doesnt need this, but developers and power users sure do. Its not even an option.
Why does gnome still show http source when doing a http://www.cnn.com from nautilus? I would think that this would at least open up your default browser and give you the website. I dont know why an everyday user would want to see the source from a website instead of the rendered website. This is probably due tot he fact that gnome believes file browsers and webbrowsers are two separate applications I imagine.
Gnome needs to show either OSS or alsa, but not both (but support both). Its hard to determine which sound bar to use to get the appropriate sound level. When your kernel loads both modules. Sure I can disable one, but why cant gnome just choose one on the fly to use and stick with it.
Quality standards are good but this is a basic skill known by just about any competent developer.
I would push more for better design patterns personally. This is what separates a coder from a software engineer. Anyone can hack out code that is formatted pretty and has compliant naming conventions. On the other hand it takes years to learn and practice good design. Unfortunately the proven veterans voices get lost in the mix far too often and the wrong path is chosen. Before you know it, you have a unportable and unmodular project on your hands.
I could name two very large competing projects where this is blatently obvious but I do not want to start a flame war =)
I for one... welcome our orc and elven overlords.
Dude, seriously.
By chance was UCB involved in the exiting polling that had Kerry's camp believing they had won at 400pm election day?