I never claimed an ability to assess character, but in a world where you have to answer to every joe blow that makes a claim against you, no matter frivolous, then I will not put myself at any risk. And yes, I do successfully avoid such enviroments. Once I was accused of damaging a machine by someone who had no idea how the old Windows for workgroups mail system operates. I slapped him down hard when I found out on what he based the accusation. Never again.
As an employee, you'd have an obligation to tell me you'd discovered an attack on our network.
Not if I suspect hanky-panky on the inside, I don't. Believe me, I WILL cover MY ass! No matter what. If that means going straight to the authorities or the media, then so be it. If I have to go over somebody's head to protect myself, then that is exactly what I will do. No question. If you expect me to report to you, you had better give me some iron-clad protection against false or frivolous accusations.
You trust who you decide to trust.
Couldn't agree more. That's pretty much my point. The decision is mine, and I will act accordingly.
"I'm sure we all agree that we ought to love one another, and I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" -Tom lehrer
Radical Islamists, Radical Christians, Radical idealists of ANY kind...They're all precisely alike. They all use exactly the same doctrines with some minor changes in names only. Reason and logic are beyond them. They all want authority and privileges above and beyond the rest of us. And as you and many others have shown, they will kill ANYBODY who gets in their way. And they will pledge allegiance to anybody that will offer them this power. As you have found out(I'm sure before this discussion), to argue with them is completely fruitless. They try to use all these phoney terms like "left", "right", "liberal", "conservative" as a method of distraction from the real issue of their lust for power. Don't let anybody pull you into that black hole. If you are able to keep them on the real topic, they will fall silent pretty darn quick. Remember they're acting on animal instincts. All their philosophizing exists solely to build on those instincts. You can see how they operate on Animal Planet or Nat Geo. It's just as educational if you watch with the sound turned off. Listening to the radicals is not necessary. All you need to do is watch them. Their ACTIONS tell the whole story. Oh, and Rumsfeld's bullshit goes all the way back to Johnson, if not before. Most of the people in charge now were part of Nixon's crew. Daddy Bush worked for Carter. So you can see, bullshit is non-partisan and non- denominational. Also remember that neither side has any moral high ground. There is no good guy. The whole sordid affair is evil incarnate.
Just how many phone lines or network cables and routers etc. do I need in my house to route around all that damage? When I have only one company and one cable coming in, I'll still enjoy less redundancy than the Slashdot front page.
-- /tmp/sig/ I use e-mail. Can you guess how old I am?
Those are very good points if you can be trusted(I'll assume here that you, personally could be) not to turn it around and accuse the person reporting the problem of causing it, as has happened in other cases. My point is that we don't know who to trust. To protect myself from such action, I might leave an anonymous note. From what I see in the news and in articles posted right here, honesty can get you into real trouble. You'll get the report, but you won't know from who. If I saw that the problem is not being attended to, I might go to the authorities, also anonymously. There are plenty of corrupt managers out there who are trying to simply cover their asses, and I won't let myself be victimized by those types. Many of the breakins are inside jobs, and the guy with the least clout is the one most likely to get railroaded. If you want real honesty from your people, you would need to provide a written guaratee that wouldn't happen. Kind of a 5th ammendment thing that what you say can't be used against you. Otherwise I live by the adage of "don't trust anybody".
Tell people that there are viable alternatives out there for them to listen to the music they enjoy.
I tried that trick when I babble about the alternatives to the majors on the ballot when you vote. I haven't gotten very far. 99% prefers to keep thing the way they are. If it goes down to 90-95%, I might take notice. For now I just put on the radio. If we stop listening to the RIAA, the president himself will go on TV to tell us that we must make sacrifices and protect the interests of the American entertainmemt industry. It is after all, our last profitable export after weaponry.
recording companies around the globe will likely ignore this piece of common sense and prefer to continue their tagline of "all pirates are evil and they steal millions from us".
And they are right. Pirates ARE evil! And they steal billions from us! And yet we still vote for and buy from them. Very strange to say the least.
...the sheer population of Asian countries may allow them to train more scientists and engineers than the U.S. while devoting a smaller share of their economy to science and technology.
This is just one of the reasons I'm against population control as opposed to appropriate use of technology to insure there is enough resources for everyone to live comfortably. The more people we have on the planet, the more brain power we have. Good to see somebody else recognizes this.
"I'm electable if you vote for me" -- Dennis Kucinich
It's all good, man. This is why I gave up and left. Nobody wants to do what it takes to make the necessary changes. And it's soooo damn easy. All one has to do is vote their conscience, and not for the guy with the flashiest jewelry. At this point I'll just stand by watch you all duke it out. I guess the Kool-aid is stronger than I thought. Best of luck. I understand what you're saying, but I see no effort on the part of the voters to make a difference.
The voters cannot be held responsible unless and until they have a free choice...
Jeez, the ballot is full of choices. Including a write in. You seem to believe that the majors are physically forcing people to vote for them. That simply isn't true. The people made their choices quite freely, if not erroneously. The voters choose to be fed by mass madia. Tha is not the govt's fault. It's the voters who decide to stick with the devil they know. Why does a candidate need to look like a Vegas hotel to get anyone's attention? Why would anybody consider that the govt's doing? This is what people want. It's as easy as writing a windows exploit. Despite all the defects, people stick with it. Why? Because it's EASY! In Cuba or China the "voter" might not have a choice. But even in "post 9/11" America we do have choices. They're just not being exercised. Actually they are, but the choices being made don't appear to be very good ones. Most people are perfectly comfortable with things the way they are. Watch what happens when the economy really turns sour. Then you might be able to draw their attention. Worked in Germany. Right now they just won't listen. Again, don't blame the govt for the people's own complacency. I doubt payola is ever going to be an election issue. Hell, corruption in general hardly seems to be an issue at this time, but it's there for all of us to see...just as soon as we wish to see it.
Too bad that your neighbors are so influenced by somthing so petty as money. Sounds like a glitch in the system. Until somebody puts a gun to their heads and forces them to vote for a certain candidate, there is still nobody to blame but the voters themselves. The choice is yours(editorially). You can vote for an illusionary tax break, or you can vote to eliminate(or at least) restrict corporate privileges. Take your pick. Don't let the TV pick your issues for you. While you're at it, see what you can do about prohibition. Please?
We shouldn't use commodity software in critical apps. These should be served by specialized machines that the general public does not have access to. I don't want to see things like Airbus and the triple 7 using it either. I hope that would never be considered. This is leading to the same mono culture problems that windows has already exposed us to. Very dangerous.
If Monsanto or Dupont can sell seed that makes them money and feeds poor people why does that bother you?
That little thing called vendor lock-in. And even more so, patents that will help insure that lock-in. And I wouldn't call it an "education" when it's provided by vested interests. If and when a real scientists can show me that the previously mentioned solutions won't fix the problem, I might go along.
And what relation does greed have to do with safety.
Hmmm, that's a tough one. Off hand, I would say a lot.
The idea of implanting a chip that can be surreptitiously read at any time is just stupid, frankly.
Not to the guy who sells chips it isn't. Does Halliburton make RFID chips? It could explain a lot.
No.
"For there can only be one."
I never claimed an ability to assess character, but in a world where you have to answer to every joe blow that makes a claim against you, no matter frivolous, then I will not put myself at any risk. And yes, I do successfully avoid such enviroments. Once I was accused of damaging a machine by someone who had no idea how the old Windows for workgroups mail system operates. I slapped him down hard when I found out on what he based the accusation. Never again.
As an employee, you'd have an obligation to tell me you'd discovered an attack on our network.
Not if I suspect hanky-panky on the inside, I don't. Believe me, I WILL cover MY ass! No matter what. If that means going straight to the authorities or the media, then so be it. If I have to go over somebody's head to protect myself, then that is exactly what I will do. No question. If you expect me to report to you, you had better give me some iron-clad protection against false or frivolous accusations.
You trust who you decide to trust.
Couldn't agree more. That's pretty much my point. The decision is mine, and I will act accordingly.
"I'm sure we all agree that we ought to love one another, and I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" -Tom lehrer
Check it out. This is the world we live in.
Radical Islamists, Radical Christians, Radical idealists of ANY kind...They're all precisely alike. They all use exactly the same doctrines with some minor changes in names only. Reason and logic are beyond them. They all want authority and privileges above and beyond the rest of us. And as you and many others have shown, they will kill ANYBODY who gets in their way. And they will pledge allegiance to anybody that will offer them this power. As you have found out(I'm sure before this discussion), to argue with them is completely fruitless. They try to use all these phoney terms like "left", "right", "liberal", "conservative" as a method of distraction from the real issue of their lust for power. Don't let anybody pull you into that black hole. If you are able to keep them on the real topic, they will fall silent pretty darn quick. Remember they're acting on animal instincts. All their philosophizing exists solely to build on those instincts. You can see how they operate on Animal Planet or Nat Geo. It's just as educational if you watch with the sound turned off. Listening to the radicals is not necessary. All you need to do is watch them. Their ACTIONS tell the whole story. Oh, and Rumsfeld's bullshit goes all the way back to Johnson, if not before. Most of the people in charge now were part of Nixon's crew. Daddy Bush worked for Carter. So you can see, bullshit is non-partisan and non- denominational. Also remember that neither side has any moral high ground. There is no good guy. The whole sordid affair is evil incarnate.
Just how many phone lines or network cables and routers etc. do I need in my house to route around all that damage? When I have only one company and one cable coming in, I'll still enjoy less redundancy than the Slashdot front page.
/tmp/sig/ I use e-mail. Can you guess how old I am?
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Those are very good points if you can be trusted(I'll assume here that you, personally could be) not to turn it around and accuse the person reporting the problem of causing it, as has happened in other cases. My point is that we don't know who to trust. To protect myself from such action, I might leave an anonymous note. From what I see in the news and in articles posted right here, honesty can get you into real trouble. You'll get the report, but you won't know from who. If I saw that the problem is not being attended to, I might go to the authorities, also anonymously. There are plenty of corrupt managers out there who are trying to simply cover their asses, and I won't let myself be victimized by those types. Many of the breakins are inside jobs, and the guy with the least clout is the one most likely to get railroaded. If you want real honesty from your people, you would need to provide a written guaratee that wouldn't happen. Kind of a 5th ammendment thing that what you say can't be used against you. Otherwise I live by the adage of "don't trust anybody".
Don't start talking about Space Ship One...
Ok, how about Salvage 1?
Tell people that there are viable alternatives out there for them to listen to the music they enjoy.
I tried that trick when I babble about the alternatives to the majors on the ballot when you vote. I haven't gotten very far. 99% prefers to keep thing the way they are. If it goes down to 90-95%, I might take notice. For now I just put on the radio. If we stop listening to the RIAA, the president himself will go on TV to tell us that we must make sacrifices and protect the interests of the American entertainmemt industry. It is after all, our last profitable export after weaponry.
recording companies around the globe will likely ignore this piece of common sense and prefer to continue their tagline of "all pirates are evil and they steal millions from us".
And they are right. Pirates ARE evil! And they steal billions from us! And yet we still vote for and buy from them. Very strange to say the least.
...the sheer population of Asian countries may allow them to train more scientists and engineers than the U.S. while devoting a smaller share of their economy to science and technology.
This is just one of the reasons I'm against population control as opposed to appropriate use of technology to insure there is enough resources for everyone to live comfortably. The more people we have on the planet, the more brain power we have. Good to see somebody else recognizes this.
"I'm electable if you vote for me" -- Dennis Kucinich
It's all good, man. This is why I gave up and left. Nobody wants to do what it takes to make the necessary changes. And it's soooo damn easy. All one has to do is vote their conscience, and not for the guy with the flashiest jewelry. At this point I'll just stand by watch you all duke it out. I guess the Kool-aid is stronger than I thought. Best of luck. I understand what you're saying, but I see no effort on the part of the voters to make a difference.
The voters cannot be held responsible unless and until they have a free choice...
Jeez, the ballot is full of choices. Including a write in. You seem to believe that the majors are physically forcing people to vote for them. That simply isn't true. The people made their choices quite freely, if not erroneously. The voters choose to be fed by mass madia. Tha is not the govt's fault. It's the voters who decide to stick with the devil they know. Why does a candidate need to look like a Vegas hotel to get anyone's attention? Why would anybody consider that the govt's doing? This is what people want. It's as easy as writing a windows exploit. Despite all the defects, people stick with it. Why? Because it's EASY! In Cuba or China the "voter" might not have a choice. But even in "post 9/11" America we do have choices. They're just not being exercised. Actually they are, but the choices being made don't appear to be very good ones. Most people are perfectly comfortable with things the way they are. Watch what happens when the economy really turns sour. Then you might be able to draw their attention. Worked in Germany. Right now they just won't listen. Again, don't blame the govt for the people's own complacency. I doubt payola is ever going to be an election issue. Hell, corruption in general hardly seems to be an issue at this time, but it's there for all of us to see...just as soon as we wish to see it.
Too bad that your neighbors are so influenced by somthing so petty as money. Sounds like a glitch in the system. Until somebody puts a gun to their heads and forces them to vote for a certain candidate, there is still nobody to blame but the voters themselves. The choice is yours(editorially). You can vote for an illusionary tax break, or you can vote to eliminate(or at least) restrict corporate privileges. Take your pick. Don't let the TV pick your issues for you. While you're at it, see what you can do about prohibition. Please?
Ooops. I guess I should've posted this here.
who cares where they come down?
That's not my department," says Wernher von Braun. -TL
...yes, they have home computers with "pirated" copies of XP (who came up with that term I wonder?)...
I prefer "bootlegged".
In critical apps, such as hospitals(where no x86 machine should be allowed), network insecurity could cause great physical injury.
Among its primary selling points are new tools for searching and viewing the contents of a PC...
Then why don't they call it "Screwdriver" or "Thumbscrew"?
We shouldn't use commodity software in critical apps. These should be served by specialized machines that the general public does not have access to. I don't want to see things like Airbus and the triple 7 using it either. I hope that would never be considered. This is leading to the same mono culture problems that windows has already exposed us to. Very dangerous.
Yeah. Find a Mac Plus.
Proprietary format, ancient tape drives and undocumented data formats make this a huge problem.
Maybe now somebody will understand why I insist that we use pen and paper to archive our data in a human legible form?
That doesn't wash. You have plenty of chances to put good people into office. It just might take a little more effort than you're used to.
If Monsanto or Dupont can sell seed that makes them money and feeds poor people why does that bother you?
That little thing called vendor lock-in. And even more so, patents that will help insure that lock-in. And I wouldn't call it an "education" when it's provided by vested interests. If and when a real scientists can show me that the previously mentioned solutions won't fix the problem, I might go along.
And what relation does greed have to do with safety.
Hmmm, that's a tough one. Off hand, I would say a lot.