Re:Wasn't this one of the point Ebert made?
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Guess you weren't around it the seventies when they were making shows like the Brady Bunch and the Partridge Family. It doesn't get any worse than that. Same goes for movies. They sure as shit didn't have anything like Lord of the Rings back then, but they certainly had their share of mundane cop shoot'em ups.
No doubt. A lot of ridiculously high expectations out there. They're just video games. People take it way too serious, and at this stage in the evolution of games will anything less than absolute virtual reality or Shadowrun style BTL chips be good enough today's (or tomorrow's) overly critical gamer?
It's sad when I spend most of my time playing old SNES/Genesis games because there are hardly any decent games coming out today. And these sort of articles aren't going to stop until some change happens.
So what? The gaming industry is stil a $10 billion one, regardless of people who feel the way you do. These articles and opinions like yours aren't going to make a difference. It will to continue to grow because they know what MOST gamers want, not just a small group that hangs out at Slashdot always complaining the games are innovative enough. Some of you are entirely too full of yourselves.
The portrayal of women argument has always been weak. The Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders have been showing an awful lot of skin for a long time, and it doesn't stop the Cowboys from having female fans. They obviously don't care. And if some games are sexist, females don't have to get those. Not all are. But the final proof, one of the lead designers on Playboy the mansion was a female.
Why in the hell would a corporation sponsor some dorky kid to play videogames? The advertising couldn't be worth the money. Professional gamer?? The stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Oh that's easy. It's not that they want to see anything in particular. They just like to bitch and moan in these threads. If it's not about videogames, then it's about movies, music, the government, books, sex, food, life...whatever topic seems closest to the current thread.
The real questions are why if there's supposedly all these disenchanted game developers hanging around Slashdot, why they don't form their own companies more often and make these innovative games they like to tell us about. Why they're not the ones willing to take a chance even while their berating EA and the rest of them. Why we never see somebody show up in the games forum to say, "Hey, I'm working on a new and innovative game. Who wants in?"
Disregard the parent. This person shills for himself, whoring for karma and generally making any statement which derides Linux as he knows this will resound with the Windows fanatics that cling to this website despite being well aware of its anti-Microsoft slant (as most of the known galaxy is).
How can you argue with somone who posts nothing but anti-Linux sentiments without any objectivity? This poster is not to be taken seriously.
Despite that fact that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, who can blame him for pandering to the Windoze fanatics?
Wow! I get to play too. That was fun. Now can I have my +5, Informative like everybody else?
I used to work with game studios, and have a lot of friends that still do or program/design and they are as pissed off and unhappy with the direction that the industry is going as anybody. People who make games are creative folks, and right now creativity is the lowest valued aspect of their jobs... it is disheartening. No one wants to make nothing but Racing/FPS titles day in and day out and that is basically what it is down to, they want to be part of an ambitious project with a chance to be the "next-big-thing" and it just isn't the case.
I wasn't questioning your expertise, simply pointing out a different viewpoint. But would you look at this the same way if you were running a company like EA and had to answer to the stockholders? Just a question.
There will be such a low number of releases for these next gen consoles that you are going to be crying the blues when all that is out an don the horizon is more of the same. Looking forward to that one cool new game is what keeps most gamers on egde and excited, that's never happened waiting for that one cool sequel or that one cool movie license in my lifetime. Sure sequels can be great, and even licensed games have gotten a bit better, but they simply don't compare to a great original game that blows you away.
I get to see your point stated here all the time on Slashdot, but why do you post it here where it doesn't matter, where it will inevitably get drowned out in all the bitching and moaning? Why are groups of developers not getting together and starting their own companies more often to make these innovating games you all have in mind?
Rather cynical. Why is it people at Slashdot always assume that everybody wants puzzles game to solve? Why is it not okay for those people who do like sports/racing games or other genres? Is this not simply an old school reaction?
Me personally, I love racing games because it's things I can't do in the real word. I can't afford an exotic sports car, can't afford to wreck an exotic sports car, can't even afford to INSURE an exotic sports car. And even if I could afford it, I don't drive nearly well enough to trust myself at those speeds. I'm not ready to die yet. Neither are you, I would imagine, should somebody come ripping through your neighborhood at speeds upwards of a hundred miles an hour. Which is why a game like Midnight Club III is such a huge seller in Japan and in the States. Isn't that a good enough reason to play a videogame?
So why is it you puzzle people insist that all games should be designed for you and that you should be allowed to decide for the rest of us what's innovation and what's not? Why do we always have to hear your rants on Slashdot?
Can you say it? Because you know it's true. Too many good movies like Lord Of the Rings has it so that people expect EVERY movie to be that good. And when it isn't (invariably), they are disappointed. Don't let people bullshit you. They spent tons of money watching mediocre movies in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Before that they were simply thrilled to have movies at all. Now, as so many have pointed out, DVDs are stealing the show. The movies aren't getting worse, people just forget the bad ones from yesteryear. They seem to think all black and white movies were as good as Casablanca. The only remember the classics. Everybody should have been alive in the days when Hollywood was churning out a movie a week, when the actors were literally owned by the studios. Then they'd have something to bitch about. Show me any period in history, and I'll show you a ton of lousy movies. It's no different than rooting for the local sports team. Sometimes they win and sometimes they get their asses kicked. Either way, you paid the $30-40 to get in. Just ask a Cub fan.
I say it all the time, and I'll keep saying it until people finally get it. Open your eyes people. Start looking at yourselves and your expectations. Or better yet, make your own movie.
My mistake. He was only arrested, threatened with torture until he "confessed" and then given life imprisonment which would have been in nice clammy dungeon were it not for his poor health.
Gee, I guess that't not so bad afterall. That Inquisition, such nice people.
Yeah, except most of those slave owners were Christians, and slavery was endorsed by various Southern Baptist preachers. The same groups of illustrious people also endorsed the butchering of the native americans. Don't kid yourself. If anybody knows about violence, it's Christians.
Clearly you nothing about football or pro quarterbacks. A little twitch is enough to completely throw off a quarterback's timing and accuracy. Hitting a guy between the numbers 70 yards down field is not nearly as easy as Payton Manning makes it look. Also in darts and golf, you're not about to get squashed by an assotment of defensive linemen, linebackers and sometimes defensive backs as you're throwing the ball. You must be from England.
Don't study Darwin, don't study the Big Bang, no Stem Cell research, stay in the Dark Ages. They don't kill people anymore like they did with Galileo, now they just get a Texan in the White House to make sure as much scientific research as possible is illegal.
Meanwhile they want to teach our kids stuff out of the Bible because if it's in the Bible it MUST be true. What we really need is one country (somewhere else) where Christians can gather and live in whatever primitive manner they choose.
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Oh lord, here we go again. Do you not understand that this site was started by a Linux enthusiast and continues to be part of an Open Source network of sites? Microsoft has their own forums. Don't like the way MS is portrayed here, then go there. Because I'm pretty sure I can go to any pro-Microsoft forum and read all kinds of anti-Open Source diatribes there. So grow up or move on.
Perhaps, but The Nightmare Before Christmas, Sleepy Hollow and Corpse Bride (while not my kind of movie) are creative, the point being that when Burton gets to do the kind of movie he wants to, he is very creative. And despite what we might think of the current incarnation of Willi Wonka, the box office disagrees with us.
We keep hearing how the movies are getting worse. Would that be worse than John Wayne westerns, worse than John Wayne WWII movies, worse than Clint Eastwood shoot'em ups or maybe worse than your average Gary Cooper movie. Or are we talking worse than a Fred Astaire musical? By all mean, show me a time in history when we've had a greater variety of movies out there. Because movies like Casablanca are one in a million, not the norm for the old days. Classics are classics because they were rare jewels amongst so much broken glass. Which is part of this is hard for people to understand?
The characters weren't as cutesy as in the first Kotor, but unique and fascinating in their own right. Also without the family issues so you didn't have to play Dr. Phil in this game.
...when all this hysteria blows over. It can't be too much longer, can it? Hillary will find a new cause, Jack will sink back into obscurity (hopefully for a long while), and the press will find something else to talk about like
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Potentially without rights? When did you lost all your rights? Yeah, the Patriot Act could be used to bust somebody with their warez or growing pot or whatever, but if you're really suspicious enough, you already realize that anytime the government wants to make you disappear off the face of the Earth without a trace, they can. They can spy on you, and you'll never know it. They can dispense with the courts completely. How much time are you going to spend worrying about it? It's not as much a question of losing one's rights, as to just how paranoid of the government one wants to be. If you're paranoid enough, you never had rights.
I'm not talking about right or wrong. I'm talking about survival. You've suffered a serious tragedy in London, but it still doesn't compare to 9-11, and so you having watched it from across the Atlantic did't get the full impact of it. Not your country and not your people. But more to the point, it's about the emotions running high afterward. 9-11 was enough to not only get people to go along with the war in Afghanistan but also to go along with Iraq. The American people would never have gone along with either of these had they nod seen their buildings come crashing down. The bombing of the U.S.S. Cole was certainly not enough nor were the bombings of the Embassies in Africa. Under enough duress, maybe if something were to happen to Buckingham Palace or whatever, you guys would understand better. On the otherhand, there will always be those over here who are more worried about their rights then being alive. Probably most of them don't live in New York City. My rights won't do me any good if I'm buried under tons of concrete and steel.
Maybe. Or maybe, had you been subjected for days on end, all day long of seeing the Twin Towers come crashing down, hearing the screaming, seeing that shot of the plane on all the new networks, seeing the aftermath...you might just decide to let Gitmo go. I'm no fan of Bush's nor of the Patriot Act, but I'm less of a fan of Al Qaida's. If any of these measures prevents even one terrorist attack, then so be it.
One of these days you'll be telling your grandchildren what it was like to have an internet be as free and open as the frontier once was (though obviously with perils of its own just like the frontier had). If the kids ask which you prefered, chaotic but free, or secure but controlled, what will you say?
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Guess you weren't around it the seventies when they were making shows like the Brady Bunch and the Partridge Family. It doesn't get any worse than that. Same goes for movies. They sure as shit didn't have anything like Lord of the Rings back then, but they certainly had their share of mundane cop shoot'em ups.
No doubt. A lot of ridiculously high expectations out there. They're just video games. People take it way too serious, and at this stage in the evolution of games will anything less than absolute virtual reality or Shadowrun style BTL chips be good enough today's (or tomorrow's) overly critical gamer?
So what? The gaming industry is stil a $10 billion one, regardless of people who feel the way you do. These articles and opinions like yours aren't going to make a difference. It will to continue to grow because they know what MOST gamers want, not just a small group that hangs out at Slashdot always complaining the games are innovative enough. Some of you are entirely too full of yourselves. The portrayal of women argument has always been weak. The Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders have been showing an awful lot of skin for a long time, and it doesn't stop the Cowboys from having female fans. They obviously don't care. And if some games are sexist, females don't have to get those. Not all are. But the final proof, one of the lead designers on Playboy the mansion was a female.
Why in the hell would a corporation sponsor some dorky kid to play videogames? The advertising couldn't be worth the money. Professional gamer?? The stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Oh that's easy. It's not that they want to see anything in particular. They just like to bitch and moan in these threads. If it's not about videogames, then it's about movies, music, the government, books, sex, food, life...whatever topic seems closest to the current thread. The real questions are why if there's supposedly all these disenchanted game developers hanging around Slashdot, why they don't form their own companies more often and make these innovative games they like to tell us about. Why they're not the ones willing to take a chance even while their berating EA and the rest of them. Why we never see somebody show up in the games forum to say, "Hey, I'm working on a new and innovative game. Who wants in?"
Precisely, and neither was the parent. Didn't stop them from modding it up. The mods are not on crack, the mods are jackasses.
Disregard the parent. This person shills for himself, whoring for karma and generally making any statement which derides Linux as he knows this will resound with the Windows fanatics that cling to this website despite being well aware of its anti-Microsoft slant (as most of the known galaxy is).
How can you argue with somone who posts nothing but anti-Linux sentiments without any objectivity? This poster is not to be taken seriously.
Despite that fact that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, who can blame him for pandering to the Windoze fanatics?
Wow! I get to play too. That was fun. Now can I have my +5, Informative like everybody else?
I wasn't questioning your expertise, simply pointing out a different viewpoint. But would you look at this the same way if you were running a company like EA and had to answer to the stockholders? Just a question.
There will be such a low number of releases for these next gen consoles that you are going to be crying the blues when all that is out an don the horizon is more of the same. Looking forward to that one cool new game is what keeps most gamers on egde and excited, that's never happened waiting for that one cool sequel or that one cool movie license in my lifetime. Sure sequels can be great, and even licensed games have gotten a bit better, but they simply don't compare to a great original game that blows you away.
I get to see your point stated here all the time on Slashdot, but why do you post it here where it doesn't matter, where it will inevitably get drowned out in all the bitching and moaning? Why are groups of developers not getting together and starting their own companies more often to make these innovating games you all have in mind?
Rather cynical. Why is it people at Slashdot always assume that everybody wants puzzles game to solve? Why is it not okay for those people who do like sports/racing games or other genres? Is this not simply an old school reaction?
Me personally, I love racing games because it's things I can't do in the real word. I can't afford an exotic sports car, can't afford to wreck an exotic sports car, can't even afford to INSURE an exotic sports car. And even if I could afford it, I don't drive nearly well enough to trust myself at those speeds. I'm not ready to die yet. Neither are you, I would imagine, should somebody come ripping through your neighborhood at speeds upwards of a hundred miles an hour. Which is why a game like Midnight Club III is such a huge seller in Japan and in the States. Isn't that a good enough reason to play a videogame?
So why is it you puzzle people insist that all games should be designed for you and that you should be allowed to decide for the rest of us what's innovation and what's not? Why do we always have to hear your rants on Slashdot?
Can you say it? Because you know it's true. Too many good movies like Lord Of the Rings has it so that people expect EVERY movie to be that good. And when it isn't (invariably), they are disappointed. Don't let people bullshit you. They spent tons of money watching mediocre movies in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Before that they were simply thrilled to have movies at all. Now, as so many have pointed out, DVDs are stealing the show. The movies aren't getting worse, people just forget the bad ones from yesteryear. They seem to think all black and white movies were as good as Casablanca. The only remember the classics. Everybody should have been alive in the days when Hollywood was churning out a movie a week, when the actors were literally owned by the studios. Then they'd have something to bitch about. Show me any period in history, and I'll show you a ton of lousy movies. It's no different than rooting for the local sports team. Sometimes they win and sometimes they get their asses kicked. Either way, you paid the $30-40 to get in. Just ask a Cub fan. I say it all the time, and I'll keep saying it until people finally get it. Open your eyes people. Start looking at yourselves and your expectations. Or better yet, make your own movie.
Gee, I guess that't not so bad afterall. That Inquisition, such nice people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo
Most Christians have no problem with the Big Bang (as long as it's understood that God Created the Big Bang)
That's both funny and sad at the same time. Again, Religion holding us back from scientific discovery.
Yeah, except most of those slave owners were Christians, and slavery was endorsed by various Southern Baptist preachers. The same groups of illustrious people also endorsed the butchering of the native americans. Don't kid yourself. If anybody knows about violence, it's Christians.
Clearly you nothing about football or pro quarterbacks. A little twitch is enough to completely throw off a quarterback's timing and accuracy. Hitting a guy between the numbers 70 yards down field is not nearly as easy as Payton Manning makes it look. Also in darts and golf, you're not about to get squashed by an assotment of defensive linemen, linebackers and sometimes defensive backs as you're throwing the ball. You must be from England.
Don't study Darwin, don't study the Big Bang, no Stem Cell research, stay in the Dark Ages. They don't kill people anymore like they did with Galileo, now they just get a Texan in the White House to make sure as much scientific research as possible is illegal.
Meanwhile they want to teach our kids stuff out of the Bible because if it's in the Bible it MUST be true. What we really need is one country (somewhere else) where Christians can gather and live in whatever primitive manner they choose.
Oh lord, here we go again. Do you not understand that this site was started by a Linux enthusiast and continues to be part of an Open Source network of sites? Microsoft has their own forums. Don't like the way MS is portrayed here, then go there. Because I'm pretty sure I can go to any pro-Microsoft forum and read all kinds of anti-Open Source diatribes there. So grow up or move on.
Perhaps, but The Nightmare Before Christmas, Sleepy Hollow and Corpse Bride (while not my kind of movie) are creative, the point being that when Burton gets to do the kind of movie he wants to, he is very creative. And despite what we might think of the current incarnation of Willi Wonka, the box office disagrees with us.
We keep hearing how the movies are getting worse. Would that be worse than John Wayne westerns, worse than John Wayne WWII movies, worse than Clint Eastwood shoot'em ups or maybe worse than your average Gary Cooper movie. Or are we talking worse than a Fred Astaire musical? By all mean, show me a time in history when we've had a greater variety of movies out there. Because movies like Casablanca are one in a million, not the norm for the old days. Classics are classics because they were rare jewels amongst so much broken glass. Which is part of this is hard for people to understand?
The characters weren't as cutesy as in the first Kotor, but unique and fascinating in their own right. Also without the family issues so you didn't have to play Dr. Phil in this game.
So if he's not announcing the price now then when??
...when all this hysteria blows over. It can't be too much longer, can it? Hillary will find a new cause, Jack will sink back into obscurity (hopefully for a long while), and the press will find something else to talk about like this
Potentially without rights? When did you lost all your rights? Yeah, the Patriot Act could be used to bust somebody with their warez or growing pot or whatever, but if you're really suspicious enough, you already realize that anytime the government wants to make you disappear off the face of the Earth without a trace, they can. They can spy on you, and you'll never know it. They can dispense with the courts completely. How much time are you going to spend worrying about it? It's not as much a question of losing one's rights, as to just how paranoid of the government one wants to be. If you're paranoid enough, you never had rights.
Must be nice!
I'm not talking about right or wrong. I'm talking about survival. You've suffered a serious tragedy in London, but it still doesn't compare to 9-11, and so you having watched it from across the Atlantic did't get the full impact of it. Not your country and not your people. But more to the point, it's about the emotions running high afterward. 9-11 was enough to not only get people to go along with the war in Afghanistan but also to go along with Iraq. The American people would never have gone along with either of these had they nod seen their buildings come crashing down. The bombing of the U.S.S. Cole was certainly not enough nor were the bombings of the Embassies in Africa. Under enough duress, maybe if something were to happen to Buckingham Palace or whatever, you guys would understand better. On the otherhand, there will always be those over here who are more worried about their rights then being alive. Probably most of them don't live in New York City. My rights won't do me any good if I'm buried under tons of concrete and steel.
If I was American I'd be ashamed of my country.
Maybe. Or maybe, had you been subjected for days on end, all day long of seeing the Twin Towers come crashing down, hearing the screaming, seeing that shot of the plane on all the new networks, seeing the aftermath...you might just decide to let Gitmo go. I'm no fan of Bush's nor of the Patriot Act, but I'm less of a fan of Al Qaida's. If any of these measures prevents even one terrorist attack, then so be it.
One of these days you'll be telling your grandchildren what it was like to have an internet be as free and open as the frontier once was (though obviously with perils of its own just like the frontier had). If the kids ask which you prefered, chaotic but free, or secure but controlled, what will you say?