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Thompson Goes After Sims 2 Nudity
magicbond_007 writes "Miami lawyer Jack Thompson is at it again, this time with something above and beyond absurd. Gamestop is reporting that Thompson has accused The Sims 2 of contain obscene material. From the article: 'In the statement, Thompson says, "Sims 2, the latest version of the Sims video game franchise ... contains, according to video game news sites, full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair."' At this rate kids won't be able to play Mario because Princess Peach is dressed too slutty."
Who didnt see this coming.
"I am a kernel in the linux army"
I wouldn't let my sims bathe or potty anyway.
I am boycotting this author for his obscene usage of the word penis in sexual situations, won't somebody think of the children?! He's exposing them to suggestive language thats even worse than pictures!
Sims 2 has been a game that I have wanted to buy but never got around to yet. So I might be wrong here, but does ANYONE see a nudity cheat on gamefaqs: http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/code/91481 1.html?
I have the feeling, based on his barbie and ken comments towards the end, that he is going to attack the entire Barbie line next. No, its not a bloody admission that "ken and barbie features" shouldn't be displayed, its put there for comical value. Its funny to see things blurred out.
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Wow and after how many seasons of NYPD, Nip and Tuck, Sopranos, Hill Street Blues, The Shield, South Park, anything ever made by Aaron Spelling, Buffy, OC, and 90% of network prime time, and the News I nearly forgot about the evil Sims game poisoning the minds of our youth as the grade school cheerleaders are fucking bump-and-grinding in competitions with songs Like BARBIE GIRL and role models like Spears and Aguleria. Jebus Fucking Rice man I almost forgot about stories of incest, pedophelia, suicide, demonic possession, homosexual identity crises, and murder from that sick pervert fuck Shakespeare. Thank God we censored such static works as Milton's Paradise Lost and Dante's Inferno from tainting our children with such sick visions of people with their head up their asses. THANK YOU GOVERNMENT FROM SHIELDING US FORM OBVIOUS LAZY FUCKING PARENTS THAT ARE SO ILL EQUIPPED TO DISCIPLINE THEIR CHILDREN FEAR THEY'LL GET SUED BY THEM FOR DEPRIVING THEM ACCESS TO SUCH OFFENSIVE CONTENT.
Oh I can solve the problem....
TURN THE FUCKING TV OFF!
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mi blurries hide teh nudity!!1 GIMME LAWYRZ PLX!!1
There is truth in humor.
I know his claims are probably untrue about The Sims 2, but I'd just like to take this moment to say that I really like nudity and gratuitous violence and I don't even look at the ratings aside from the occasional curiosity.
Once again, guess whose job it really is to keep some of my favorite games away from the kids? It's the job of the parents.
Before I had my driver's license (4 years ago), I was limited in what games I could buy because my parents would always be nearby and strictly limited what I was allowed to get. I didn't like it, but I'd never fault them for it. As soon as I got my driver's license, I could get whatever I wanted.
The idea I'd really like to put across here is that no matter what you do to a game, if you have a car and can go places on your own, you can buy almost whatever you want.
No store policies or lawsuits or censorship will ever (and should never) prevent the market from bringing customers what they want; it's always gonna be up to parents to have an effective hand in what their kids are exposed to.
People have sexual organs.
"I only speak the truth"
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Won't a baseball bat coincidentally land on his head with such force that he become incapacitated and conveniently forget all about this prude shit (that doubtlessly is poised to make him a pretty penny)?
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still his claims are absolute BS, the only way u can see nudity in the Sims is with mods. and it is not the fault of the programmers that it can be done.
hell i can think of about 20 pc games that can be modded to have nude characters and no one (as of yet) has complained about it.
What a great society we Americans have these days. I can watch what is basically Crime Scene Porn on the major networks any night of the week I want, see countless murders happen on TV, and basically dismember characters in pretty much any video game I want to, watch more than simulated sex acts on cable, and listen to some pretty graphic swearing on television.
But God help us if little Bobbie might have seen a blur on some "sim" in the tub. We already know if s/he wants to see anything of the sort, their hitting all the free super link porno sites anyway.
What is behind this outcry is the fact that most kids have these games and parents are finding that "Gee, I must be a lousy parent because I didn't know that my kids could do this and frankly didn't care because the distraction kept my kids quiet. I'll pretend to be horrified at this so that other people don't think I'm a bad parent, while I really couldn't care less."
Let's put it this way. My son saw more graphic sex in the gorilla house on a recent visit to the zoo than is possible in these games. Quick, let's make the zoo "AO" and fine the zookeepers for not having warnings that the critters might get jiggy.
Can't wait for the next "important social issue" to come up. It's going to be the horrors of chunky peanut butter or some such tripe.
*sigh*
From the article:
"'This is no different than what is in San Andreas, although worse.'"
So somehow it's worse without actually being any different? I'm confused...
So on one hand we have GTA:SA a previous M rated game that involved various criminal acts and whatnot which had in its code a game where there is "OMG SEX" and badly simulated at that but was disabled and not available for whatever reason until some reasourceful people who where going through the PC version discovered it and using a patch, re-enable it.
(you can wax philosphy all day long about if it was meant to be found yadda yadda)
and then you have the SIMS2 which has various acts of living in your house flirting baby making and alien abductions.. which resourceful people can create various household items such and decorations outfits and skins for which may or may not have giant throbbin cocks or whatever on them.
One had the content and skins already in
The other has the skins and content created by the player..
We know the differences between the two, but who wants to guess which way the media, politicians and other twats like Thompson are going to go.
"I am a kernel in the linux army"
If we're to follow Thompson's reasoning, won't the actual Ken and Barbie dolls (and others like them) have to be banned? If a human figure without genitals can't be shown on a computer screen, then why are we allowing our children playing with actual physical representations?
And what about dolls of Barbie's little sister? Also a dirty tool for the pedophile that probably lives next door!
Thompson is a Grade A Moron.
for I second I thought that said "Dave Thomas". Thank god it's not; it would be horrible to hear about the founder of a fast food chain being resurected and going after anyone, even if it is EA. Remember kids: zombies are never fun to play with.
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How dare EA publish this filth. Seeing a blurred out 1 inch virtual person naked could have devastating effects on a teenager. They might join a nudist colony which is very socially unacceptable (aside from the fact that we're born naked). Hell, maybe they will pick up that horrible habbit of showering while nude, or having sexual intercourse in the buff; they might even stop going to the bathroom fully clothed. Heaven forbid they do these completely unnatural things.
This guy is a media whore and I actively support the strengthening of the human gene pool by 'mysteriously' getting rid of him.
Ricockulous.
Please ignore any obvious problems in this post.
" At this rate kids won't be able to play Mario because Princess Peach is dressed too slutty."
Oh yeah, because Nintendo's been leading the charge for the last 20 years to reveal more skin in video games. Great example, Mr. Dumas.
"Derp de derp."
So you want to protect the children, is that what you're saying? Are you saying that children are protected by being taught that sex and sexual organs are morally wrong?
This kind of skewed view of life just kills me. Ultimately, this will just do more damage to children. They'll feel guilty about their bodies! That is just plain twisted.
Fuck these politicians. Revolt.
What does this mean? He thought the killer was a victim because he played GTA and then killed officers? Or were the officers sued postehumously?
"much to the delight, one can be sure, of pedophiles around the globe who can rehearse, in virtual reality, for their abuse."WTF? You don't seem to be fighting this. You are an ambulance chasing asshat.
A guy of his caliber probably restricts his own access to his nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair.
Otherwise, how else would he be such a shining beacon of moral righteousness and overall upstanding citizenry? We must all repent; We're not worthy.
Maybe I will go pick up a copy.
...to make an ass out of himself. I'm hoping an attack like this gets some public attention and >>hopefully the public is smart enough to realize the claim is baseless and he looses credibility and support for all future claims.
I can hope, can't I?
Anm
Why Japan is better.
In Japan, violence is shunned and sexuality is popuarlized.
Some may see the men of Japan as perverted, but at least the sexual rape percentage in tokyo is lower than the death rate by guns in Washington D.C
make love, not war.
I would not be surprised if Thopmson goes after WOW next, because of the Female Night Elf dance.
when I say:
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, WHAT'S YOUR DAMN PROBLEM?!
Yes i'm yelling. What's wrong with people?! How the fuck will banning the sims "protect the children"?!
In Europe nudity is not considered "bad", in Japan it's not considered "bad".
Hell, I saw some European commercials showing full nudity, in not too late hours.
In Japan the whole genre of adult games is a huge business and they sell for PC and consoles.
Only in the US and Muslim countries nudity is considered a really bad thing.
And what do we get? The population explodes, full of STDs, unwanted pregnancy and so on.
So. GET A FUCKING GRIP ON YOURSELF! SEX IS NOT BAD. NUDITY IS NOT BAD. IT'S ONLY THE NATURAL THING.
^_^
Well, it worked to get GTA III off the shelves, so maybe he thinks that going after Sims 2 the same way will work.
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In all fairness... have you seen the hot tub 'whoopee' that the sims have? Now *that* is obscene.
Jesus, if I could bend that way... I'm not gonna type any more or I will corrupt children reading this.
Okay, who will be the first to quote Niemoller's Poem in this thread?
Spell cheek you've failed me four the last thyme!
Television commercial's and programs alike have been blurring out (or black boxing) explicit nudity for ages without getting much attention in the sake of children, but nobody is throwing around lawsuits to stop them.
You put those blocks in to keep the content from being seen, if someone created a modification that allowed your TV to remove those blocks and blurs and fill in what was really there, would it be the fault of companies like Ventura for having that content in originally?
Instead of attacking the programmers or producers for, rightfully, removing or blurring the explicit content, why aren't Rockstar and Electronic Arts suing the people that made the patches? Why aren't people like Jack Thompson filing suit against them? After all, the material wasn't meant to be seen by the consumer.
Neither Rockstar nor EA deserve to get sued for filtering the content in question and not sufficiently protecting against malicious (not to mention perverted) modders from exposing the code for what it was . As far as I'm concerned, both the Sims and GTA were hacked, slandering the name of legitimate, trustworthy companies. GTA wasn't trying to sneak anything past ESRB against 'moms' will. EA wasn't trying to expose children to explicit nudity...as far as the allegations go: the labia was not visible.
You can take any Harry Potter book and replace this sentence: Harry looks to Hermione with Harry fucks Hermione.
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I believe that Jack Thompson is the same person that was ordered by the Florida Supreme Court to undergo a pschiatric evaluation (he passed).
He would also be the same guy who has gone after 2 Live Crew, Ice T, the Basketball Diaries, Doom, Halo, Rockstar, Howard Stern, etc.
His site 'stopkill.com' has a nice introduction:
It would be odd if he wasn't going after the Sims.
[Btw, he has a right, AS A HUMAN BEING, to his opinion. Just as I have a right, as a human being, to my opinion that Thompson is grossly mistaken.]
What a fucking ass.
I just made some screenshots of enabling the nude cheat in Sims 2. Here, see for yourself. The only thing there is some disturbingly asexual smooth models.
...when all this hysteria blows over. It can't be too much longer, can it? Hillary will find a new cause, Jack will sink back into obscurity (hopefully for a long while), and the press will find something else to talk about like this
better censor the parent message. kids might read it and find out!
Tomorrow's Slashdot news:
Games: Sims 2 sales up 45%
The Internet is full. Go away.
Welcome to the new McCarthyism!
And to think, a lawyer trying to tell everyone what is morally acceptable
The "hot coffee farce" was beyond funny and embarrassing for the US (even PA completely lost it on the matter, I didn't expect that), but this is even more far out.
Thank you lord, that I was born and still live outside of the US. This could have never happened in a European state.
Steffen
I just realized it. he's the first man I can think of that can have the moniker "soccer mom" attached to him. Somebody needs to smack this fruitcake.
This sig no verb.
She's prolly at another castle anyways.
GameSpot posted the article. GameStop is the unrelated video game store. It's easy to get those letters switched around though.
This is ridiculous.. If developers have to endure flak and possible lawsuits over mods to their games, how long will it be before they go to great lengths to prevent mods completely?? One of the greatest traits of PC gaming is under attack.
Before positing Japan as the beacon of enlightened thought on sex, do a Google search for something called "Enjo Kosai."
Whereas the Hot Coffee minigame was a mod, that couldn't have been unlocked in-game by any cheatcodes otherwise, the Sims 2 game has the command "intprop censorgridsize" which can be turned off : And thus enabling nudity in an even lower rated game than GTA was.
I am afraid this opportunist moneygrabbing lawyer might have a case :/ .
Please, The Sims is a tame as milk. I can almost agree with him on the GTA thing (although I enjoy the series), simply because it's obviously designed and left in the game, even though I find it hypocritical that he wouldn't seek a lawsuit before the mini-game was common knowledge (as if the violence and the hooker-in-a-car from the original weren't enough). But The Sims / The Sims 2 (the "blur" occurs on both version, if you remember)? Has this man ever seen a Barbie or Ken doll naked? That's about the extent of it. I especially love this line:
No, no it doesn't, and "video game news sites" are not a source to base a lawsuit on, especially if you can't name the site or sites in question. The only thing that might make for evidence in anything whatsoever is the following site I ran into on the way to look for "proper" screenshots:
Now, this is not what he is accusing EA of - this is a skin patch, which should tell you right there what the deal is - if you want to see nude Sims with details, you're going to need a patch, because they're little more than mannequins under the blur. This would not exist if they had full-frontal nudity, penii, etc.
Groundless lawsuit by an ignorant man. Sick of this shit.
Your Television analogy is a bit off. If someone created a mod to your TV to remove those black bars, the person who made the modification is responsible. If, however, all TV's secretly had the ability, and someone smart enough just told you how to make them disappear, that would be what this is like. Except, behind the black bars, all you would see is a strapless bra. The Sims 2 came with the capability to remove the blur, it is something done in game for the Sims 2. And anyone who read the article can surmise that the labia wasn't visible with the "cheat". The allegations against EA (and Maxis) are clearly wrong, and EA isn't going to be responsible because their original content is innocuous. As for GTA, they are very much at fault for their game's problem. Just because you have to get a mod doesn't belay the fact that they wrote the code for the sex game, and designed it to be in the game.
American Citicens have to take off their sexual organs as long as they live in America.
This new law will prevent young innocent Children too see breats, penises or even this evil pubic hair.
Insteead of sexual organs, people are obliged to wear guns and other killing instruments.
"Freiheit ist immer auch die Freiheit des Andersdenkenden" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1871 - 1919
Just get all the game publishers to make ALL their games rated AO, then it isn't a problem. If Best Buy or Game Stop wants to stay in the business of selling games, let the parents come in and buy them in the first place. No exceptions. Rate Mario, Pac Man, and everything else AO...after all, I believe it is still a voluntary rating system isn't it?
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"We know the differences between the two, but who wants to guess which way the media, politicians and other twats like Thompson are going to go."
Yup, and this garbage lawsuit is going to helpfully undo some of the harm to the game industry and expose these idiots as just that.
Here is what will happen: Hype - a week from now there will be a story about this on every blog, paper, tv station, and radio station.
Eventually this thing will either make it to court or not even go that far before it is thrown out. It will clearly highlight how ridiculous these zealots are.
Then next time someone starts crying wolf media outlets will hopefully take things with a grain of salt after being made to look so foolish. (I'm not sure if that will get me +1 insightful, or +1 funny)
Holy hell, this guy is a fruit cake. He hasn't even played the game, or watched video of it. To his credit, he issued an ammendment saying that...
Thompson this afternoon updated his earlier statement, saying he is aware certain mods only remove "the blur," but adds that "Electronic Arts has done nothing about this." Thompson's new conclusion: EA is "cooperating, gleefully, with the mod community to turn Sims 2 into a porn offering."
"If Common Sense was so common, it wouldn't be such a valued trait."
In order to create the censor blurs, you need to describe the lengths of the sides (since it's squares, one number covers all sides) with a number variable. It's always possible to change a variable through hacks/mods, and there's really no way to stop it (complexity can make it harder, but it's never impossible). So, in essence, Jack Thompson is suing them because they described the length of a side numerically (though he's too big of an idiot to know that). How are the sides supposed to be described, with interpretive dance?
It would be really nice if Jack Thompson actually learned a thing or two about programming before he went accusing people of improper programming practices. Of course, the more I hear about him, the more I am convinced that he's not interested in justice at all; he just wants to make a name for himself.
To the first person who creates a mod which displays nude models on this lawyer's website.
I have been irrevocably damaged by seeing the words nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair. I will be suing /. and Jack Thompson.
Everytime you look at porn a devil gets their horns.
I just finished my rant about how sick and tired I am of hearing about the sex/violence views of America. And before I leave this topic forever, let me say that I think the point that everyone seems to be missing is this.
If your kid can get on the internet to download a cheat to watch pixelated fake cartoon sex on a video game, guess what, HE CAN DOWNLOAD HIGH QUALITY VIDEO OF ACTUAL PEOPLE HAVING REAL, OFTEN INCREDIBLY DIRTY/GRAPHIC/AMAZING, SEX!
Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
Garrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! Gaaaaarrr!!!! GARGARGAR!!!!
If, however, all TV's secretly had the ability, and someone smart enough just told you how to make them disappear, that would be what this is like.
Kind of like if your cable company sent you the porn channel, scrambled, and someone was smart enough to come out with a descrambler? That would be the cable company's fault, and we could sue them?
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Ken and Barbie should be next, like the article says you can take there close off and see the same thing you can in the Sims. The creators of ken and barbie obviously knew this and should be taken to court!
Sorry, just had to say that.
If you are reading this, then you are one of those people whom I just can't take seriously.
I want to see actual proof that the sexual situations, what little there are in The Sims 2, have had a significant negative impact on a single human being. HOW does the content in Sims 2 negatively affect anyone, or even push them to commit a crime? He's throwing around a lot of shit talking, but he shows absolutely nothing backing it up. We aren't even getting half-assed statistics. Does he think we're stupid enough to blindly believe anything he says? Well, we might not be, but most of those in power are. But come on. Training ground for child molesters? That's the weakest thing I have heard come from him yet, and I've been following this guy since the late 90's.
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Then they came for the communists
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Why is it that when you believe something it's an opinion, but when I believe something it's a manifesto?
So, we will have less younger annoying players playing World of Warcraft.
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He should read this. Then lets see what he thinks of mario...
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - C.S. Lewis
I think Jack just took on the wrong company.
For as much as I think EA is evil, they have the money to take this guy down.
Sic 'em EA. Sic 'em.
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After all, Alyx Vance has a "cheat code" that unlocks full frontal nudity, nipples, and labia. No penises or pubic hair, but the labia are animated realistically -- or, getting there...
Oh wait, you need this patch. The official download page appears to be gone, but the file is still there, somewhere...
I would actually pay to see this lawsuit in particular. "Ok, watch what happens when I remove her pants. Guess what? See-through panties! In fact, see-through hips, see-through thighs, see-through legs... Is it still nudity if everything's transparent? Or completely absent?"
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
The problem with the GTA decision basically made game makers responsible for all content their engine COULD display, not what the user could get to. This smuck is arguing that because you can patch (ILLEGALLY MODIFY) the game to have nude sims, its a paragon of filth and sin. If this kind of thing is allowed, it will be very bad for games. On another note, after reading the article, this fool obviously doesn't know a computer from his asshole and probably recoils in horror at the "devil box" his secretary types his cases into.
Does anybody remember classic porn-games?
Like "Cuntlet," the Gauntlet remake where the player characters were penises and labia?
I was told in 12th grade English--that school period between the M and AO rating--the Miller's Tale [of Chaucer's Canterbury Tales] is moste filthye. I went looking for it, but didn't find anything exciting. So I'd find culturally-approved wacking material, like the yearbook, SI Swimsuit Calendar, or an issue of Cosmo.
There's a subtle lesson in that.
you can have my violent video games when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.
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Well, we should probably ban this whole Internet thing then.
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... go out and buy a copy of Sims 2. And send back the feedback card, saying "please use my $50 to sue Jack Thompson's ambulance-chasing vexatious-litigating ass so far into debt he'll have to hock his teeth and peddle his ass on the street"
I am no longer wasting my time with slashdot
News just in: Third party Counter Strike modification shows counter terrorists defusing the bomb in the nude.
so sue me...
Watching Unsolved Mysteries has been very beneficial to me. In fact, an episode two weeks ago, which was about diabolical minds, more specifically, the segment on convicted murderer G. Daniel Walker, helped me figure this out: Jack Thompson is a classic sociopath/psychopath! Here's my evidence based on the case study on UM:
1) makes own rules to life- check.
2) comes up with elaborate explanations that, when thought about, make no sense- check. For example, "Columbine to the factor of ten".
Originally, I had thought he meant "Columbine times 10", which means Jack hopes and prays every day for 120 students and 10 teachers murdered by 20 gunmen who would then kill themselves immediately afterward, just so he can scream to the world "I TOLD YOU SO!"
However, I figured out that he could also have meant "Columbine to the power of 10", which would make no sense whatsoever. 13(the number of victims) to the power of 10(13 multiplied by itself 10 times) would equal 137,858,491,849 murdered by a small army of 1,024 gunmen(2^10). That's 137 BILLION, roughly 22 times the entire world's population!! Jack sure sounds really ridiculous now, does he?
3) egomaniac- check. One look at his website proves that.
4) uses reverse psychology(i.e. responsibility for one's actions come from other people, pain comes from other people)- check.
Mystery solved.
BTW, does anyone else here besides me see the similiarities between Jack Thompson and Sen. Joe McCarthy? It would explain a lot. I mean, they both men's careers were floundering until they began preying on people's fears(McCarthy with Communism; Thompson with video games)
Thompson also employs McCarthyism and the Big Lie as his weapons, as the paranoia concerning video games today resembles the hysteria that led to McCarthyism in the fifties:
McCarthyism- "A smear campaign of groundless accusations from which the accused can not escape, because professions of innocence become admissions of guilt and only confessions are accepted."- Don't Know Much About History, Kenneth C. Davis
The Big Lie- "If you tell a lie that's big enough, and you tell it often enough, people will believe you are telling the truth, even when what you are saying is total crap."- UFOs, JFK, and Elvis, Richard Belzer
Both definitions are taken from Foley Is Good and the Real World Is Faker Than Wrestling by Mick Foley.
== BearDogg-X ==
"At this rate kids won't be able to play Mario because Princess Peach is dressed too slutty."
Her skirts are getting shorter...
Actually, it's funny that another one of these articles popped up.
I was just minding my own business surfing the web, and I found this really cool hack for windows media player. So I downloaded it and double-clicked it, and all of a sudden my media player started showing all sorts of disgusting depravity! I hope he gets Microsoft next! I'd uninstall this evil program if I could.
Come to think of it, I think Internet Explorer has a similar pornographic feature. I remember there was a goat-see hack for that a while ago, at least that's what I think it was called.
I think the next step is suing mozilla when a kid gets caught bypassing a firewall and downloading porn. What the hell is with this "your program can be altered to show nudity or sex, therefor you're at fault" crap? Honestly, did this just start, or have I been missing it this whole time?
Hell, if somebody ripped my clothes off in public, would I be arrested for public indecency? What if we were in our bedroom together, but a peeping 17 year old kid hid a small spycam in the room? Would I be arrested for providing pornography to a minor? If so, I think it's time to take back my country.
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Aqua's "Barbie Girl" is satire, actually.
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Princess Peach could use a little sluttin up. Have we even seen her ankles?
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i decided to send him an email. his response was less than professional and I quote "Nobody said it was, moron. I've been sounding the video violence horn for six years now. sorry you missed it." heres what i sent him, its a mix of some of the better points made so far Heres a fun question: What makes sex worse than violence? Or better yet, how about cable Tv which millions of parents subcribe to, but don't moniter what thier children watch? For example: It's funny how, after so many season of high-rated TV shows (NYPD, Nip and Tuck, Sopranos, Hill Street Blues, The Shield, South Park, anything ever made by Aaron Spelling, Buffy, OC, and 90% of network prime time, and the News), you go after video games as if these are the things "poisoning our youth". Things have gotten so bad that cheerleaders in grade school are actually being taught to dance suggestively. The parents actually ENCOURAGE this sort of behavior. The parents are also buying their kids video games (like San Andreas) without even paying attention to what it is. It seems to me that parents today want the government to raise their kids and want no part in their upbringing whatsoever. So, to finish off, why are you going after a medium that has to be bought at a store, through a clerk with a rating, rather than what's aviable on national TV? Eagerily awaiting your respone,
Sims kids can also be nudified, "much to the delight, one can be sure, of pedophiles around the globe who can rehearse, in virtual reality, for their abuse."
He has a point there. I rehearsed for my abuses in virtual reality by playing hundreds of hours of Monopoly.
-- Bill
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
It's pure filth I tell you!
Might look like a humble development environment out of the box but in the hands a skilled yet depraved individuals it churns out pornography, violence, viruses and control systems for killing kittens.
BAN THIS MICROSOFT FILTH FOR THE SAKE OF SOCIETY!
which is free publicity that he couldn't buy anywhere else (hot coffee, anyone?).
You're helping this guy in spades by continuing to cover idiocy on a level I've not seen since the last time my wife watched Entertainment Tonight. You're giving time and energy to this...hell, so am I, and I'm not happy about it.
Stores are written, they propagate to boards like this, then to others, ad infinitum, and by the end of the day a whole lot more people know who this clown is, and not everyone will see him for what he is. Maybe one of them calls him with a case of their own. More fuel on the fire, and we (those with minds) lose another foothold.
Nothing wrong with lawyers getting rich. Nothing wrong with all of us getting rich. But not like this.
So stop helping him. It's hard, I know, to turn a blind eye in the face of ignorance, greed, stupidity, greed, and greed, on this kind of scale, but it's the best tactic we've got. As he flails his arms wildly and jumps up and down and bellows fire and brimstone from various orifices, pay no mind, and watch his powers begin to fade. He's not worth your time and you know it. Treat this corpuscle as what he is.
"Miami lawyer Jack Thompson is at it again, this time with something above and beyond absurd. Gamestop is reporting that Thompson has accused The Sims 2 of contain obscene material."
I suddenly asked myself this morning: what's in a rating?
The MPAA says theirs is a "Voluntary Movie Rating System", and they are assigned solely at the MPAA's discretion. G, PG, PG-13, R, NC-17 ... it's all a voluntary ratings system. AFAIK, it's not really enforced by law. That is, I don't know that federal law has anything that prohibits a 16-year-old from seeing an R-rated movie. Certainly, if the theater chooses not to let you to see it, you can pick it up 6 months later as a rental.
The TV ratings are TV-Y, TV-Y7, TV-Y7-FV ("fantasy violence"), TV-G, TV-PG, TV-14, TV-MA. These are all assigned by the TV Parental Guidelines Monitoring Board, and the ratings were (originally?) intended to be used together with the V-Chip to keep children from seeing inappropriate content.
The ESRB (as we are all aware by now) assigns game ratings based on responses to questionaires by those evaluating the games (usually, adults in & around New York.) Games can be rated EC, E, E10+, T, M, AO.
Why am I listing all this? Because I started to ask myself when the madness will stop about game ratings, and how it's all about protecting the children and making it easier for parents to pick content appropriate for their kids.
Why has no one argued to apply the same standard of ratings to books? Some argue that video games should be treated differently than, say, books because video games are more interactive while books are passive entertainment. But television and movies are passive entertainment.
If the argument is that game ratings help make sure kids "aren't exposed to indecent depictions" then why not use book ratings to ensure the same thing? Just like games, books can be rated EC (Little Golden Books), E ('Peter Rabbit'), E10+ ('Harry Potter' 1-4), T ('Harry Potter' 5-6), M (Stephenson, Gibson), AO (pr0n). Why wouldn't a book ratings system like this work?
Because it feels too much like censorship, that's why. It's not censorship, but too many people would think it crosses the line.
Just a thought..
At this rate kids won't be able to play Mario because Princess Peach is dressed too slutty.
Have you seen her in those tiny shorts in Mario Golf (GCN)?
This time next year, expect a nude Peach showering on a Nintendo Revolution near you!
nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair
children will be prohibited from using their eyes or hands until the age of 18. it is, after all, the only way for them to grow up safely.
labia? how deformed are these models that you can actully see parts that would otherwise apear microscopic on a tv?
this lawer is proly a bigger perv then any of us to try and find this out.
On reflection, I find the standards pretty odd. It is ok as long as it only contains theft, killing and raping. But when we add in scenes of an act that nearly every human being on earth will participate in (sex) at sometime in their life, it becomes obscene? Sex is a naturally natural act for nearly every animal on earth, I hope that raping, killing and stealing are not. So what message does the current rating system send to kids, hmmm?
Congratulations, you took the rest of my quote out of context. If you stop and look at the next sentence, you would see that this porn channel would have the most boring porn ever. Everyone would have clothes on. Not much to sue for, huh? GTA I didn't make an analogy for, however. I was just pointing out the flaw in the initial analogy, and how ludicrous a situation you would have to have to sue Maxis/EA for.
No, I read the whole post. I guess I didn't understand it. I thought you were saying what GTA was doing was wrong. You know, cause you said "they are very much at fault for their game's problem."