As a kid I used to play Infocom adventures for hours every day. Later on I went through the King's Quest, Space Quest, Police Quest, etc games. I feel it greatly expanded my vocabulary, problem solving skills, and memory retention. I think this study fails to look at what games can provide, and is purposefully looking for a negative angle. Trying to correlate an effect with a cause of their choosing.
Many of the people I work with (software developers) had an early love for video games as well, and they all turned out just fine.
...typically fail because the people making them don't want to make them perfect the first time. This is where Apple wins. They may not have the most feature rich devices. They may not give the user the most freedom. However, they do tend to focus on a very specific set of capabilities and produce a product which meets that criteria really well.
Contrast that to Linux devices which try to do everything and wind up accomplishing half-assed software which is then pushed off to the userbase to fix and improve.
It is still that person making a conscious effort to go out, and stuff food in their mouth.
Fat kids are a direct result of porking down and being lazy. Attempting to use a television as a scapegoat is just attempting to shift blame. All these people need to do to change things is fix their diet and exercise 30 minutes a day.
Because the article is not about Nintendo, it's about Apple. You're right though, Nintendo is more draconian than Apple ever was. Then again, so was Pol Pot, but the article is not about him either.
...for wanting to absolutely control the apps that are sold through their store, and their developer license simply reflects that reality.
If you were running a grocery store, wouldn't YOU want to have the final say on what products YOU stock in the store? Wouldn't you want to be able to decide not to stock a product if they do something you don't like? (genetically altered produce is a no-no here, etc). They set the entry bar high so they don't have to wade through a ton of crap when deciding what to sell.
And we wouldn't have a problem with this, if apple allowed us to legally make and sell apps which didn't have to be sold through their store. Being forced to use their app store and to agree with their draconian contract is a little over the top.
> Not sure where your $10 a month number comes from.
Neither am I, since I've not said $10 a month anywhere. Even the quote you've posted doesn't say $10 a month.
I also was careful to say that they were conservative numbers, and pointed out that even if it reached 10 times ($1000 instead of $100) that it still wouldn't be feasible. I don't understand why anyone would mod you up when you didn't even read what I said correctly.
If in 10 years they'll only be $3,000 (down from $750,000) why would anyone buy them now? What proof is there that the amount of power created is worth $750,000?
I guess what I'm saying is that if the price stops people from adopting it in the first place, and it's cheaper to get power over the next 10 years by other means, demand will never be high enough to drive down cost. This is the same thing I never understood about electric cars. They come out with a car that gets good mileage, and then they make it so prohibitively expensive that only the select elite can migrate to it. This seems like a very backwards approach if you're trying to build a market.
Given that I might spend $100 a month to power a house (conservatively, even if you went to 10 times the power consumption, the numbers are *still* not in favor of this device), that's only $1,200 a year, or $12,000 for 10 years.
The mighty mouse is completely missing from this list. Seriously, it was probably one of the most terrible hardware attempts since the hockey puck mouse.
I don't think I've ever read something so douchey on slashdot before. Really. When was the last time you even donated 1/1000th of that amount to a charity.
Only retards look a gift horse in the mouth like this.
Thank goodness you've done something so profound that it has changed the world. I mean, it definitely allows you to be critical of someone's philanthropy.
Wait, you haven't? Oh..
Anything that doesn't run Linux out of the box is a huge step backwards. It's like a gas company chairman getting up and telling us electric cars are a huge step backwards.
They made a fantastic device, then went ahead and wrecked it by trying to be the Darth Vader of our cellular generation. Apple is evil, so it should come as no surprise - but I had held out a little hope.
and when the phone goes dead several hours premature because you kept the backlight on, what then?
The whole idea of an ebook reader device is to more closely mimic the look of paper, and to be functional in direct light, and to have superior battery life.
A lot of the problems would go away people just ditched KDE
GNOME has matured quite a bit by now. After being a staunch KDE supporter for many years, I installed GNOME recently, and am very glad that I did! It's a much nicer environment than KDE currently is.
The integration between the apps is really good. It's almost better than Windows and Mac OS X, and is a lot better than KDE. The GNOME apps all work seamlessly with one another.
It feels really responsive, too. I think this has to do with GTK+. It's just a better toolkit than Qt is.
After using GNOME for a couple of weeks, I don't think that I can go back to KDE again. KDE just has too many bugs, not enough integration between the apps, and just plain feels sloppy these days.
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DID YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE?
I think it really depends on how essential the service is. If you're part of an essential service, you're damn right you should get paid for carrying a pager. Other jobs, well, I really don't know. I think you'd have to take it on a case-by-case basis.
In Canada, part-time paramedics who carry pagers make $2/hour unless they get a call (in which case they get a "call rate"). Personally I think this is pretty ridiculous considering you have to be within a certain distance of the station, and ready to go with only a moment's notice. I personally think that anyone who is "on-call" for an essential service should be paid better than this for being restricted in how far away from the station they can go.
This trend is even more disturbing when you realize that nearly 40% of all Canadian paramedics are part time, and that this number is growing. The government is using part time paramedics as a means to slash wages for the full time ones by way of reducing their working hours and shifts. Additionally, because they are an essential service, they are not allowed to walk off the job and strike. The only form of protest they can implement is by putting signs on their ambulances, and picketing in their off hours. which of course amounts to nothing getting done.
The fact that their model can't stand up to hardware lock-in is a sign that perhaps they need to rethink their model (which for mac computers is arguably bad) instead of cramming it down the throats of their customers. Many people would like to use OS X. Many people do not want an overpriced mac.
Many people I'm sure would continue to buy computers from Apple despite the fact that you could install OS X on a PC.
Tell you what. I'll get off your lawn if you stop exaggerating things to absolute extremes.
Most of the problems people have with revtalk are that it's not what it claims to be. It's not particularly "easier". It's not particularly "smaller". The only thing revtalk and I seem to agree on is it's for novices who don't know better.
I'm in complete agreement with you. A lot of what they claim is the "power" in this language is just a syntax turned up to maximum verbosity. It's not even elegant. It's just long and needlessly wordy.
Other languages read as English far better. Ruby for example has a good balance between human readability and concise syntax. The only thing revtalk is revolutionizing, is the amount of meaningless bloat we place in the source code. The bottom line is that once you're past the cutesy cherry picked examples provided on their site, the syntax of the language does more to get in your way than it does to help you.
Since I was still looking for some kind of reason to like this language, I put all this aside and thought to myself "surely they must have something interesting for database interactions". After all, most web applications rest on some kind of data storage, and since it's so important, they must have a way to make this easier to understand for novice programmers. I found out quite rapidly that it implements nothing to ease the pain of talking to a SQL server. No ORM or "better" way of describing SQL or stored data structures was to be found.
I think revtalk will develop some kind of following. However, I don't think any experienced programmer would want to touch it after spending an hour messing with it. Novice programmers who eventually wind up becoming intermediate/advanced programmers will probably drop it like a hot potato once they start to explore alternatives.
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As a kid I used to play Infocom adventures for hours every day. Later on I went through the King's Quest, Space Quest, Police Quest, etc games. I feel it greatly expanded my vocabulary, problem solving skills, and memory retention. I think this study fails to look at what games can provide, and is purposefully looking for a negative angle. Trying to correlate an effect with a cause of their choosing.
Many of the people I work with (software developers) had an early love for video games as well, and they all turned out just fine.
...typically fail because the people making them don't want to make them perfect the first time. This is where Apple wins. They may not have the most feature rich devices. They may not give the user the most freedom. However, they do tend to focus on a very specific set of capabilities and produce a product which meets that criteria really well. Contrast that to Linux devices which try to do everything and wind up accomplishing half-assed software which is then pushed off to the userbase to fix and improve.
It is still that person making a conscious effort to go out, and stuff food in their mouth. Fat kids are a direct result of porking down and being lazy. Attempting to use a television as a scapegoat is just attempting to shift blame. All these people need to do to change things is fix their diet and exercise 30 minutes a day.
Because the article is not about Nintendo, it's about Apple. You're right though, Nintendo is more draconian than Apple ever was. Then again, so was Pol Pot, but the article is not about him either.
If you were running a grocery store, wouldn't YOU want to have the final say on what products YOU stock in the store? Wouldn't you want to be able to decide not to stock a product if they do something you don't like? (genetically altered produce is a no-no here, etc). They set the entry bar high so they don't have to wade through a ton of crap when deciding what to sell.
And we wouldn't have a problem with this, if apple allowed us to legally make and sell apps which didn't have to be sold through their store. Being forced to use their app store and to agree with their draconian contract is a little over the top.
Now I know for sure that breakout, and super breakout will live on in the finest of Mac traditions!
You could at least link directly to the onion instead of giving a linkjacker credit.
> Not sure where your $10 a month number comes from.
Neither am I, since I've not said $10 a month anywhere. Even the quote you've posted doesn't say $10 a month.
I also was careful to say that they were conservative numbers, and pointed out that even if it reached 10 times ($1000 instead of $100) that it still wouldn't be feasible. I don't understand why anyone would mod you up when you didn't even read what I said correctly.
If in 10 years they'll only be $3,000 (down from $750,000) why would anyone buy them now? What proof is there that the amount of power created is worth $750,000?
I guess what I'm saying is that if the price stops people from adopting it in the first place, and it's cheaper to get power over the next 10 years by other means, demand will never be high enough to drive down cost. This is the same thing I never understood about electric cars. They come out with a car that gets good mileage, and then they make it so prohibitively expensive that only the select elite can migrate to it. This seems like a very backwards approach if you're trying to build a market.
Given that I might spend $100 a month to power a house (conservatively, even if you went to 10 times the power consumption, the numbers are *still* not in favor of this device), that's only $1,200 a year, or $12,000 for 10 years.
I'm wanting to order that Lego Giant Box :)
Sorry, item is not available in this country: Canada.
:(
The mighty mouse is completely missing from this list. Seriously, it was probably one of the most terrible hardware attempts since the hockey puck mouse.
gogo google apologists!
Watch the videos where he's trying to do navigation. It seems like this is exactly what Apple doesn't want - lag and unreposonsiveness.
Whoever used the term "computer school" should be sent back to university.
I don't think I've ever read something so douchey on slashdot before. Really. When was the last time you even donated 1/1000th of that amount to a charity.
Only retards look a gift horse in the mouth like this.
Thank goodness you've done something so profound that it has changed the world. I mean, it definitely allows you to be critical of someone's philanthropy. Wait, you haven't? Oh..
Anything that doesn't run Linux out of the box is a huge step backwards. It's like a gas company chairman getting up and telling us electric cars are a huge step backwards.
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Google switches to new softer 2-ply toilet paper to reduce employee chafing.
Exactly!
They made a fantastic device, then went ahead and wrecked it by trying to be the Darth Vader of our cellular generation. Apple is evil, so it should come as no surprise - but I had held out a little hope.
and when the phone goes dead several hours premature because you kept the backlight on, what then? The whole idea of an ebook reader device is to more closely mimic the look of paper, and to be functional in direct light, and to have superior battery life.
A lot of the problems would go away people just ditched KDE GNOME has matured quite a bit by now. After being a staunch KDE supporter for many years, I installed GNOME recently, and am very glad that I did! It's a much nicer environment than KDE currently is. The integration between the apps is really good. It's almost better than Windows and Mac OS X, and is a lot better than KDE. The GNOME apps all work seamlessly with one another. It feels really responsive, too. I think this has to do with GTK+. It's just a better toolkit than Qt is. After using GNOME for a couple of weeks, I don't think that I can go back to KDE again. KDE just has too many bugs, not enough integration between the apps, and just plain feels sloppy these days. --- DID YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE?
I think it really depends on how essential the service is. If you're part of an essential service, you're damn right you should get paid for carrying a pager. Other jobs, well, I really don't know. I think you'd have to take it on a case-by-case basis.
In Canada, part-time paramedics who carry pagers make $2/hour unless they get a call (in which case they get a "call rate"). Personally I think this is pretty ridiculous considering you have to be within a certain distance of the station, and ready to go with only a moment's notice. I personally think that anyone who is "on-call" for an essential service should be paid better than this for being restricted in how far away from the station they can go.
This trend is even more disturbing when you realize that nearly 40% of all Canadian paramedics are part time, and that this number is growing. The government is using part time paramedics as a means to slash wages for the full time ones by way of reducing their working hours and shifts. Additionally, because they are an essential service, they are not allowed to walk off the job and strike. The only form of protest they can implement is by putting signs on their ambulances, and picketing in their off hours. which of course amounts to nothing getting done.
The fact that their model can't stand up to hardware lock-in is a sign that perhaps they need to rethink their model (which for mac computers is arguably bad) instead of cramming it down the throats of their customers. Many people would like to use OS X. Many people do not want an overpriced mac.
Many people I'm sure would continue to buy computers from Apple despite the fact that you could install OS X on a PC.
Tell you what. I'll get off your lawn if you stop exaggerating things to absolute extremes.
Most of the problems people have with revtalk are that it's not what it claims to be. It's not particularly "easier". It's not particularly "smaller". The only thing revtalk and I seem to agree on is it's for novices who don't know better.
I'm in complete agreement with you. A lot of what they claim is the "power" in this language is just a syntax turned up to maximum verbosity. It's not even elegant. It's just long and needlessly wordy.
Other languages read as English far better. Ruby for example has a good balance between human readability and concise syntax. The only thing revtalk is revolutionizing, is the amount of meaningless bloat we place in the source code. The bottom line is that once you're past the cutesy cherry picked examples provided on their site, the syntax of the language does more to get in your way than it does to help you.
Since I was still looking for some kind of reason to like this language, I put all this aside and thought to myself "surely they must have something interesting for database interactions". After all, most web applications rest on some kind of data storage, and since it's so important, they must have a way to make this easier to understand for novice programmers. I found out quite rapidly that it implements nothing to ease the pain of talking to a SQL server. No ORM or "better" way of describing SQL or stored data structures was to be found.
I think revtalk will develop some kind of following. However, I don't think any experienced programmer would want to touch it after spending an hour messing with it. Novice programmers who eventually wind up becoming intermediate/advanced programmers will probably drop it like a hot potato once they start to explore alternatives.