I know where both of you got your numbers. The difference between each is that you misrepresent your article while sneering unnecessarily.
Nowhere in your article is the word total used referring to deaths. The deaths listed are immediate deaths. And no wonder they leave out the 15,000 dead relief workers.. the site you gave is the Uranium Infomation Center in Australia, which according to the site, are "funded by companies involved in uranium exploration, mining and export in Australia." In other words they have an economic incentive to play down Chernobyl.
Even you contradict the source you site, in your OP ("Chernobyl [...] killed a few hundred").
I've never heard of smart water, so I googled (googlarized?) their page, where I found this.
SmartWater REALLY works as a deterrent Oldham - 62% reduction in burglary West Midlands - 74% reduction in burglary Nottingham - Repeat burglaries reduced by 95%
Sorry for the tone of my post in relation to you. Responding to you just made an easy segue into my bitching about the poor conclusion of the study. Which was lame of me. Clearly you're right that the article isn't discussing the common home user. And it's splitting hairs on my part, to hold that while it is aimed at the business environment, it's more tailored to bosses than admins (well, maybe MCSA's)...
For sure, there are IT departments without sufficient expertise to do lots of things, including maintain security. But that's a failure of management, it doesn't mean that the systems they use are less secure in general. It just means that that business is weak on IT. They may not make enough money selling sneeds to hire a certified admin, or their executives might not care about getting their IT right. The system isn't at fault in that case.
FWIW, I'm not a system administrator OR a security person. I just think this report has an overly broad conclusion. Next time I won't use someone else's post as a prop to make an unrelated pitch just because it's an easy segue:) heh. sorry:)
"Ford said the idea was to represent what an average system administrator may do, as opposed to a "wizard" who could take extra steps to provide plenty of security on a Linux setup, for instance."
Sure doesn't sound like it's aimed at IT admins. If your IT department doesn't have anyone who's competent to secure and maintain the system(s) you use, it's the fault of management, not the software (nor the admin).
Hey, my plywood outhouse is more secure than Fort Knox.. as long as the outhouse has a padlock and Fort Knox is unlocked and unoccupied. Putting one competent gaurd in front of the entrance to each highlights the real defendability of both.
A crayon is ready to use right out of the box - a pencil has to be sharpened. Strangely, we use more pencils than crayons in the workplace. Why? Because it's better. Someday, a PHB will touch the obelisk, and stand upright. Until then, we're stuck with cray^H^H^H^H windows.
I'm sorry I flamed you. I need to be more patient and careful before going after someone. Really, I am sorry. You're not the kind of person I take issue with.
the AC wasn't referring to the CA law. He was responding to the original parent, who voiced his displeasure at the (mis)use of the word "Patriot" in the "Patriot Act" - and frankly I agree with him. And the AC has a good point too.
I wondered why your post seemed incoherent when I read it. Then I realized... it was. Maybe if you weren't rushing to bash someone for a lack of pro-'pub zeal you would have taken the extra 8 seconds it took to click "parent" to see why the AC's comment didn't make sense to you.
NEWS FLASH -- somewhere, someone observes reality. Ultra radical, fringe of the fringe conservative froths at mouth, makes fool of himself.
They figured ~$12 per viewer with 3M viewers.. you gotta presume that not everyone will donate, but still, even at 3x that it's very affordable. We're talking tens of dollars not hundreds.
I think they'd have a better shot of getting all the money if they set up something so that you can charge the donation to your credit or debit, and if they don't make the funding goal, everyone gets their money back. If that was an option I'd give them $100.
Maybe they could even get some kind of deal with the studio, 60/40 or something.
Gotta say, imho, Enterprise isn't as good as TNG, but it's on par with DS9, and way better than Voyager.
"I'm not sure if he's tuned in the future perfectly here, but it does suggest that periodically we should all shut off the power and use our original equipment to perceive the outside world."
NEVER!!!
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The author was interviewed by Charlie Rose Tuesday night. I found it interesting.
Just out of curiosity, has anyone here ever heard of Abraham Maslow or P.D. Ouspensky?
Anyone who wants to talk amateur psychology is welcome to email me - jumpandlink@yahoo.com Please put slashdot or blink in the subject:)
I'm not formally educated in psychology, and I'm curious how much of my own explorations correlate with academic knowledge, and what others (trained and non) might make of what I think about the composition and nature of the psyche.
A few years ago when AMD was still an upstart and beowulf clusters weren't mentioned in every other troll post, I wondered if there might be money in something like this. I thought it would be cool if AMD set up a warehouse in some cold place like Alaska and threw a load of overclocked commodity chips down, and used all the natural freezing air to get free and efficient cooling.
Okay, I thought about it, and I think "OFI" covers it.. Overconfidence, Foolhardiness, Ignorance.
"Don't use that, it'll break when you need it! It may not perform to requirements! Even if it has the stability and functionality you need, it's not from us, so it might not integrate! (run away, run away)" [FUD-if it's not from us, you don't want it"]
"Here use this, it will never ever misfunction, it will fulfill your every need (even those you haven't discovered yet) and you must believe me on faith (don't think!) because we are the bo- (*ahem*) bIggest software company ev4r." [OFI-if it's from us, nothing else can work]
From the spiv philosophers of Greece to the lobbyists of D.C. to the salestroopers of Redmond... One wrong to fool them all, one wrong to divide them, one wrong to enslave them all and in the darkness ride them.
This post is a pedantic quibble about the use of the word/acronym "FUD".
"...Massachusetts is simply repositioning what it considers an 'open format.' [...] This hasn't stopped Microsoft from tooting its horn [...]'Buzz about so-called open formats is little more than PR FUD.'"
Although the borg are doing something bad, this time they are doing it by making something bad of theirs sound good, instead of making something good of someone else's sound bad. Should there be a word which represents the contrapositive of "FUD"? Like LAC, for Lying About Crap, or something? (maybe it's the inverse, not the contrapositive, it's been a while, feel free to correct me)
Knowing that your opinion differs from the AC's, I see that I jumped the gun. I apologize contritely for unfairly flaming you. You don't deserve the abuse, and I take what I said about you back. (AC, if you're listening, eat me.)
I stand by my analogy so far as what I originally said. You don't think it makes sense, and I admit it's a fairly weak analogy, although it makes sense to me.
I didn't get abusive until responding to the AC post, and I was in error after that. I'll take a lesson from this. ^---Message to plague3106 ends here
And for anyone who's bothered reading this far, and wasn't involved, yes, I do feel a little silly %) (but not too).
I am very calm and very sleepy. I am under your control. Please deposit 25 cents for an additional three minutes.
(Phone Ringing) [Man:] "Hello?" [Operator:] "Yes, a collect call for Mrs. Floyd from Mr. Floyd. Will you accept the charges from the United States" (Phone is Hung Up) "He hung up. Is this your residence, sir?" "I wonder why he hung up..." "There must be someone else there besides your wife to answer." (Phone Ringing) [Man:] "Hello?" [Operator:] "This is the United States calling. Are we reaching.." (Phone is Hung Up) "See he keeps hanging up." "But it's a man answering." (Operator cuts connection)
I just wanted to say (mostly to FunWithHeadlines) that I came into this thread intending to moderate, but got sidetracked writing an AC comment in response to something Adams4President said (above).
But FunWithHeadlines has done such a good job that I decided to keep my points. Kudos, FunWithHeadlines!
Adam4President gets an honorable mention, on the grounds that (remember this is all my personal opinion folks) although his position in this thread seems (from reading it) based mostly on his political loyaties, he did not use raw venom and spite as heavily as most people I've seen do in this type of situation. You're emotionally stable (moreso that some people). That's good! (yes, I make a point of giving props to people who behave rationally, esp. in situations involving political allegiance).
>>Why is the word 'insurgent' considered propaganda? [...] insurgent: a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government
In the context of Iraq, using 'insurgent' is propaganda because an occupying power is neither a civil authority nor an established government; the motivation for using 'insurgent' is lending credibility to the Bush administration (on the grounds that the people we are fighting are in some way committing treason, which is untrue because in addition to having no committment of loyalty to the US Army, there is no existing structure against which they could be committing insurgency.)
Although this instance of propaganda (hereby duly explained) is sufficient to uphold FunWithHeadlines' identification of propaganda, it is by far not the only instance of news media being lead by the nose on behalf of or directly on the part of, the Bush administration.
>>When news is ocurring, I'm not sure what you expect the news outlets to do...not report it?
I don't see where in FunWithHeadlines' post you infered that the news outlets should "not report it"... other than that you and he (and now I) are participating in a discussion in which we aren't hiding our politics. But, in order to be credible, reporters should either a) report all substantiated, relevent information or b) report as much of that information as possible without underreporting or overreporting based on political bias.
The issue with FOX (and to a lesser degree, the networks) is that they have shown a pattern of underreporting relevant, substatiated information which is inconvenient (or outright damning) to Bush and his ilk. FOX actually goes out of their way to report false stories (aka lies) which consistently help Bush or hurt his opposition. One case of this actually went to court, where FOX posited that they had the right to report statements they knew outright to be untrue, as fact.
Now that's what I call propaganda. But as Levar Burton says, you don't have to take my word for it.:)
>>How in the HELL you equate providing direct links to pirated work with cigarette smoking I'll never understand
Let me break it down into itty bitty pieces and spoon feed it to you. Rei responded to stalker44 that a.torrent is functionally close enough to the music file because the.torrent exists only to get the music. still with me? Rei's point was that the court's position on charging the student was appropriate because the only reason he would link that was to help people d/l the music itself, and that there's no other use for it. I responded cigarettes have only one use, being smoked, which harms the consumer, but that in that case the court took the opposite position, that making the item available was ok, and opined that it was because big money was on that side that time. Then you responded that you thought the tobacco ruling was more likely related to people's right to put carcinogens in their body if they want (simultaneously demonstrating that you know zilch about the tobacco case, and showing that you just wanted to shoot your mouth off). I responded pointing out that 1) you are wrong and 2) if you were right it would impact another issue.
Apparently this flustered you so much that you had to post anonymously to express your frustration. I'm surprised you didn't create a hotmail account to get another slashdot account and post with that to make it look like someone in this big wide world actually thought there was an ounce of coherence to anything you said.
>>psuedo legalize marijuana rant (which goes well with your psuedo-intellectualism).
m-e-d-i-c-a-l.
Look, you didn't have a point in the first place. You just took a cheap shot, and you missed. Get over it okay? There's more to life than sniping baselessly at people on slashdot. For example, there's sniping baselessly on IRC, sniping baselessly on blogs, camping on quake, burning bags, heck you can get a box of crayola for less than $4.
But thanks for letting me sign off secure in the knowledge that somewhere, there is someone even even more insecure and idle than myself.
When the tobacco trials were going on, phillip morris didn't say "our products cause cancer, but you can't try us for that, because people have a right to put carcinogens in their body if they want". They said "I never heard that. I wasn't aware. Cancer? Who knew? I didn't."
If the addictive and carcinogenic properties of tobacco were unimportant, it'd kinda knock the wind out of the anti-medical-marijuana movement.
Hey, little Johnnie, don't smoke that, you'll laugh and get hungry. Here, smoke this instead; it's 10x as addictive, and you'll die young of a hideous disease. But that's better because.. uh... Because I said so! (And because wood-sulfide paper production is more profitable for the powers-that-were than decorticated cannabis)
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Archaean and Proterozoic fossils are billions (with a B) of years old.
Archaean & Proterozoic fossils on Google.
Nowhere in your article is the word total used referring to deaths. The deaths listed are immediate deaths. And no wonder they leave out the 15,000 dead relief workers.. the site you gave is the Uranium Infomation Center in Australia, which according to the site, are "funded by companies involved in uranium exploration, mining and export in Australia." In other words they have an economic incentive to play down Chernobyl.
Even you contradict the source you site, in your OP ("Chernobyl [...] killed a few hundred").
Get Blix in the case. I'm sure he'd appreciate being asked to look for something that actually exists. :D
I didn't know the UK had oil!
SmartWater REALLY works as a deterrent
Oldham - 62% reduction in burglary
West Midlands - 74% reduction in burglary
Nottingham - Repeat burglaries reduced by 95%
And I thought, "Dude! they got Robin Hood!"
For sure, there are IT departments without sufficient expertise to do lots of things, including maintain security. But that's a failure of management, it doesn't mean that the systems they use are less secure in general. It just means that that business is weak on IT. They may not make enough money selling sneeds to hire a certified admin, or their executives might not care about getting their IT right. The system isn't at fault in that case.
FWIW, I'm not a system administrator OR a security person. I just think this report has an overly broad conclusion. Next time I won't use someone else's post as a prop to make an unrelated pitch just because it's an easy segue :) heh. sorry :)
Sure doesn't sound like it's aimed at IT admins. If your IT department doesn't have anyone who's competent to secure and maintain the system(s) you use, it's the fault of management, not the software (nor the admin).
Hey, my plywood outhouse is more secure than Fort Knox.. as long as the outhouse has a padlock and Fort Knox is unlocked and unoccupied. Putting one competent gaurd in front of the entrance to each highlights the real defendability of both.
A crayon is ready to use right out of the box - a pencil has to be sharpened. Strangely, we use more pencils than crayons in the workplace. Why? Because it's better. Someday, a PHB will touch the obelisk, and stand upright. Until then, we're stuck with cray^H^H^H^H windows.
like my sig says.. "d'Oh"
I wondered why your post seemed incoherent when I read it. Then I realized... it was. Maybe if you weren't rushing to bash someone for a lack of pro-'pub zeal you would have taken the extra 8 seconds it took to click "parent" to see why the AC's comment didn't make sense to you.
NEWS FLASH -- somewhere, someone observes reality. Ultra radical, fringe of the fringe conservative froths at mouth, makes fool of himself.
Oh wait, that's dog bites man... no story there.
I think they'd have a better shot of getting all the money if they set up something so that you can charge the donation to your credit or debit, and if they don't make the funding goal, everyone gets their money back. If that was an option I'd give them $100.
Maybe they could even get some kind of deal with the studio, 60/40 or something.
Gotta say, imho, Enterprise isn't as good as TNG, but it's on par with DS9, and way better than Voyager.
That's assuming of course that I can't get frikken lasers (I have a feeling an in-eye laser wouldn't be so great on the cornea)
where the wild things are
Because everyone buys Windows because it's 'the best', and there's no reason to fix the problems, because everyone is buying it.
has that joke ever been more ontopic? mod parent up!
:-D
NEVER!!!
Just out of curiosity, has anyone here ever heard of Abraham Maslow or P.D. Ouspensky?
Anyone who wants to talk amateur psychology is welcome to email me - jumpandlink@yahoo.com Please put slashdot or blink in the subject :)
I'm not formally educated in psychology, and I'm curious how much of my own explorations correlate with academic knowledge, and what others (trained and non) might make of what I think about the composition and nature of the psyche.
I thought it was "they"?
'Give a person some spending money and they'll blow it on pictures of female humans' ?
I don't know what my point is.
"Don't use that, it'll break when you need it! It may not perform to requirements! Even if it has the stability and functionality you need, it's not from us, so it might not integrate! (run away, run away)" [FUD-if it's not from us, you don't want it"]
"Here use this, it will never ever misfunction, it will fulfill your every need (even those you haven't discovered yet) and you must believe me on faith (don't think!) because we are the bo- (*ahem*) bIggest software company ev4r." [OFI-if it's from us, nothing else can work]
From the spiv philosophers of Greece to the lobbyists of D.C. to the salestroopers of Redmond...
One wrong to fool them all, one wrong to divide them, one wrong to enslave them all and in the darkness ride them.
"...Massachusetts is simply repositioning what it considers an 'open format.' [...] This hasn't stopped Microsoft from tooting its horn [...]'Buzz about so-called open formats is little more than PR FUD.'"
Although the borg are doing something bad, this time they are doing it by making something bad of theirs sound good, instead of making something good of someone else's sound bad. Should there be a word which represents the contrapositive of "FUD"? Like LAC, for Lying About Crap, or something? (maybe it's the inverse, not the contrapositive, it's been a while, feel free to correct me)
I stand by my analogy so far as what I originally said. You don't think it makes sense, and I admit it's a fairly weak analogy, although it makes sense to me.
I didn't get abusive until responding to the AC post, and I was in error after that. I'll take a lesson from this.
^---Message to plague3106 ends here
And for anyone who's bothered reading this far, and wasn't involved, yes, I do feel a little silly %) (but not too).
I am very calm and very sleepy. I am under your control. Please deposit 25 cents for an additional three minutes.
(Phone Ringing)
[Man:] "Hello?"
[Operator:] "Yes, a collect call for Mrs. Floyd from Mr. Floyd. Will you accept the charges from the United States"
(Phone is Hung Up)
"He hung up. Is this your residence, sir?"
"I wonder why he hung up..."
"There must be someone else there besides your wife to answer."
(Phone Ringing)
[Man:] "Hello?"
[Operator:] "This is the United States calling. Are we reaching.."
(Phone is Hung Up)
"See he keeps hanging up."
"But it's a man answering."
(Operator cuts connection)
But FunWithHeadlines has done such a good job that I decided to keep my points. Kudos, FunWithHeadlines!
Adam4President gets an honorable mention, on the grounds that (remember this is all my personal opinion folks) although his position in this thread seems (from reading it) based mostly on his political loyaties, he did not use raw venom and spite as heavily as most people I've seen do in this type of situation. You're emotionally stable (moreso that some people). That's good! (yes, I make a point of giving props to people who behave rationally, esp. in situations involving political allegiance).
In the context of Iraq, using 'insurgent' is propaganda because an occupying power is neither a civil authority nor an established government; the motivation for using 'insurgent' is lending credibility to the Bush administration (on the grounds that the people we are fighting are in some way committing treason, which is untrue because in addition to having no committment of loyalty to the US Army, there is no existing structure against which they could be committing insurgency.)
Although this instance of propaganda (hereby duly explained) is sufficient to uphold FunWithHeadlines' identification of propaganda, it is by far not the only instance of news media being lead by the nose on behalf of or directly on the part of, the Bush administration.
>>When news is ocurring, I'm not sure what you expect the news outlets to do...not report it?
I don't see where in FunWithHeadlines' post you infered that the news outlets should "not report it"... other than that you and he (and now I) are participating in a discussion in which we aren't hiding our politics. But, in order to be credible, reporters should either a) report all substantiated, relevent information or b) report as much of that information as possible without underreporting or overreporting based on political bias.
The issue with FOX (and to a lesser degree, the networks) is that they have shown a pattern of underreporting relevant, substatiated information which is inconvenient (or outright damning) to Bush and his ilk. FOX actually goes out of their way to report false stories (aka lies) which consistently help Bush or hurt his opposition. One case of this actually went to court, where FOX posited that they had the right to report statements they knew outright to be untrue, as fact.
Now that's what I call propaganda. But as Levar Burton says, you don't have to take my word for it. :)
Let me break it down into itty bitty pieces and spoon feed it to you. Rei responded to stalker44 that a .torrent is functionally close enough to the music file because the .torrent exists only to get the music. still with me? Rei's point was that the court's position on charging the student was appropriate because the only reason he would link that was to help people d/l the music itself, and that there's no other use for it. I responded cigarettes have only one use, being smoked, which harms the consumer, but that in that case the court took the opposite position, that making the item available was ok, and opined that it was because big money was on that side that time. Then you responded that you thought the tobacco ruling was more likely related to people's right to put carcinogens in their body if they want (simultaneously demonstrating that you know zilch about the tobacco case, and showing that you just wanted to shoot your mouth off). I responded pointing out that 1) you are wrong and 2) if you were right it would impact another issue.
Apparently this flustered you so much that you had to post anonymously to express your frustration. I'm surprised you didn't create a hotmail account to get another slashdot account and post with that to make it look like someone in this big wide world actually thought there was an ounce of coherence to anything you said.
>>psuedo legalize marijuana rant (which goes well with your psuedo-intellectualism).
m-e-d-i-c-a-l.
Look, you didn't have a point in the first place. You just took a cheap shot, and you missed. Get over it okay? There's more to life than sniping baselessly at people on slashdot. For example, there's sniping baselessly on IRC, sniping baselessly on blogs, camping on quake, burning bags, heck you can get a box of crayola for less than $4.
But thanks for letting me sign off secure in the knowledge that somewhere, there is someone even even more insecure and idle than myself.
Okay, I love you, bye bye plague3106!
If the addictive and carcinogenic properties of tobacco were unimportant, it'd kinda knock the wind out of the anti-medical-marijuana movement.
Hey, little Johnnie, don't smoke that, you'll laugh and get hungry. Here, smoke this instead; it's 10x as addictive, and you'll die young of a hideous disease. But that's better because.. uh... Because I said so! (And because wood-sulfide paper production is more profitable for the powers-that-were than decorticated cannabis)