Please tell me why the Internet pipe is any different from these other pipes.
Tubes, man, the internet tubes! and incidentally, that's also the difference.
pipes clogs too easily, what with all the Asian pottery abusing imagery floating along them...
and next term, they'll have it amended with a nifty little clause, so you're not allowed to uninstall it, either, i'd wager. scary stuff... and I thought Canadians were the levelheaded ones of that particular continent?;-)
but while you're teaching high school students science fiction, kids in other high schools are learning actual science
In Lit. class (substitute with appropriate name for english/[your language] class)? and i wasted my time learning about litterature there... silly me.;-)
well, as an elitist bastard, i've made plans to be cryogenically frozen inside a series of Cray-2 mainframes in a beowulf cluster. (they may have to disect me a bit...);-)
"There has to be some sort of way to compensate the artist for the hours and the sweat and the blood and the tears and the extreme, extreme expense that goes into making music," Milman said.'"
Here, let me translate that into peoplespeak...
"Dude!!! I'm like driving last years model Porche! I gotta find some way of justifying raping both the sheeple and the music-making sheeple, so i can upgrade to a newer model! look at me slinging that FUD!"
translating from FUD to human speech makes me gag, though.
*dons tinfoil hat and tinfoil accessories* Amahgawd! mapmakers and backseat navigators of the world unite and sue these sat-nav people! It's just like the buggy coach whip makers!
sat-nav makes it safer to be on the road, now all those idiots driving with a 4' by 4' map over the stearingwheel can actually see where they're going. (that is, if they would stop txting while driving)
I'm sorry to say, i really don't feel my masculinity threatened in any way by a female voice telling me when to turn. It does, however, alliviate some of the stress of urban driving in cities i don't know.
unfortunately, the slope is VERY slippery in Denmark, We started with the DNS CP filter, (not required by law (yet)), then it progressed to include allofmp3.com (by law), and latest thepiratebay.org. Now there's talk about including gambling sites as well. The problem is, most people don't really understand the consequences of these things, based on the spin the media puts on it, if it even reaches that far. all they hear: Won'tYouThinkOfTheChildren(tm) and ThinkOfThePoorStarvingArtists(tm)... The sheeple are not even aware that they're selling their basic rights to the lowest bidder.
What I was talking about wouldn't be classified as sensitive it would be secret and probably would run on it's own machine
If it's data on my network, i can see it. whether it's classified as 'sensitive' or 'secret' is just semantics.
but maybe your right and your elected officials really are as stupid as you say they are. But then that really says something about Denmark doesn't it?
They're not stupid per se, they're just not very knowledgeable about IT. sorta like every other nation on this planet. They are also governed by law as to what they can and cannot do, and they cannot do your AT&T room, nor would this ISP ever do a setup like that without being ordered by a court of law.
So you support DNS filtering? and you support your Politicians even though they are stupid? On the one hand it sounds like you are proud of your country and on the other hand it sounds like you think your government is incompetent and thus hate your country. You should like the Danish version of an American redneck.
No,and No i didn't vote for the current government, I AM proud of my country, my Government are somewhat incompetent, and me believing that any and all governments are not competent enough to get free reign without oversight of the public, does not really imply that i hate my country, just that i don't particularly agree with the current government?.
As I told your friend, who also used the phase 'Machiavellian surveillance' a few messages down, politicians tell people what they want to hear not the truth. If they told the truth they would never get elected in the first place.
That's a nobrainer, really, but they're not THAT smart, and there's still the matter of laws, governing what they can and cannot do. the AT&T room & NSA data mining would be against the Danish 'Grundlov' - our version of the US Constitution.
Yes.. Yes it is... land of the free, waffles and internet censorship... To protect the children!
Can't say that i'm too proud of the Filters, but the danish IT crowd do fight it as best we can.
btw... we don't do waffles, we do 'Æbleskiver' (sorta waffle shaped like a bun, apple-flavored, a treat with powdered sugar and strawberry-jam!)
O ok.. sure and you're the senior tech at this ISP and have top level clearance then right?
O and you have access to every room in the joint too I'm sure?
Nope, I'm not THE senior tech, but I am one of them, and i DO have root on all our equipment.
So I also take it that the Police and/or government come to you with there high profile requests then
actually, most senior techs here handle these requests whenever they come in. we're all cleared to handle sensitive data.
How the hell do you know anything about what the people in the Danish government know? Are you a member of the Danish government or have you given them a pop-quiz?
Well, I'm Danish, i follow the news and specifically politics regarding IT.
You know, being a normal, concerned citizen in the country i reside in?
oh, and groups like http://www.sslug.dk/ often do pop-quiz our politicians about certain issues, usually before elections
Tinfoil hat.. o that's funny... sure I'm batshit crazy...
I wouldn't know, but you don't seem to know too much about Denmark, while insinuating Machiavellian surveillance schemes here.
Yup I'm the one out in LA LA land... but hey maybe you think that this all is just a US problem. That's cool, just don't call me names when I just pulled three articles out of my ass in 10 seconds and all you have is your goldleef-hat and a box of Kleenex...
Your ass seem to contain lots of articles about US surveillance, but this is Denmark we're talking about.
I'm most certainly not paid enough for a gold leaf hat, but unless someone made an extra dimension for your room 641A, I don't need one either.
MmmmKay...
I happen to be a network tech at a Danish ISP and have been doing so for 10 years.
While we are required to log some stuff for minimum 1 year,
none has ever expressed any interest in DNS logs, ever.
The only authorities who can request any sort of information are Police and military, via a court order.
They can by court order just get the interface of interest mirrored, so why should a understaffed and overworked Police care about what DNS you use?
On that note, very few in the Danish government knows what DNS is.
I know, I know, i actually read tfa...
it's all speculation, by an Aussie reporter, that it MIGHT be beneficial to disabled gamers.
according to tfa, he speculates, that since it's supposed to work with partially obscured body parts, eg. swinging an arm behind someones back, it might also be usable to amputees.
While i applaud the idea, I'd like to see it in action before we proclaim it our new controller-less overlord.
I'm still waiting for the generic, computer/tv/dvd/ect. peripheral for remote-less control of electronic equipment in my home.
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Please tell me why the Internet pipe is any different from these other pipes.
Tubes, man, the internet tubes! and incidentally, that's also the difference.
pipes clogs too easily, what with all the Asian pottery abusing imagery floating along them...
...but it still can't run Crysis at full framerate...
and next term, they'll have it amended with a nifty little clause, so you're not allowed to uninstall it, either, i'd wager. ;-)
scary stuff...
and I thought Canadians were the levelheaded ones of that particular continent?
They get paid to bundle all that crapware, as far as i know.
I'd rather donate to OO, than to a fund that pays Dell to preinstall it.
I Wave My first posts At Your Aunties, you second hand electric donkey bottom biter!'
Your mother was a LOLcat, and your father smelt of goatse!
but while you're teaching high school students science fiction, kids in other high schools are learning actual science
In Lit. class (substitute with appropriate name for english/[your language] class)? and i wasted my time learning about litterature there... silly me. ;-)
well, as an elitist bastard, i've made plans to be cryogenically frozen inside a series of Cray-2 mainframes in a beowulf cluster. (they may have to disect me a bit...) ;-)
News at 11,
Symantec launches new product to detect and remove/disable Industrial espionage soft/hardware...
"There has to be some sort of way to compensate the artist for the hours and the sweat and the blood and the tears and the extreme, extreme expense that goes into making music," Milman said.'"
Here, let me translate that into peoplespeak...
"Dude!!! I'm like driving last years model Porche! I gotta find some way of justifying raping both the sheeple and the music-making sheeple, so i can upgrade to a newer model! look at me slinging that FUD!"
translating from FUD to human speech makes me gag, though.
/. where a perfectly good (somewhat) scientific excuse for oogling women gets turned in to a scientific debate on good science manners. ;-)
The real question is....
Is this the year of linux on the Touchscreen?
for 15 grand, there'd better be free WiFi!
well, since copyright infringement of 1 song is rated at 22.000,- usd, 200m. usd,- doesn't sound too far off?
I wonder if east Texas has a lot of bridges?
you know, the common habitat of (patent)trolls?
oh yeah and Bruce Campbell had better be in it!
He'd make an ecxellent Leeroy Jenkins!
Yet I guarantee you not a single person walking this green earth has ever paid proper attention to that mantra
What's "Developers! Developers! Developers!" gonna help with my missing backup?
Seriously, I thought "good ridance" as well, but then i dawned on me...
all these people are going to turn to their local geek for a fix...
guess what? that's us, folks.
flamebait ...sorry, couldn't help it.
It's still there, hence the only valid comment can possibly be "not enough!"
/ flamebait
*dons tinfoil hat and tinfoil accessories*
Amahgawd! mapmakers and backseat navigators of the world unite and sue these sat-nav people!
It's just like the buggy coach whip makers!
sat-nav makes it safer to be on the road, now all those idiots driving with a 4' by 4' map over the stearingwheel can actually see where they're going. (that is, if they would stop txting while driving)
I'm sorry to say, i really don't feel my masculinity threatened in any way by a female voice telling me when to turn.
It does, however, alliviate some of the stress of urban driving in cities i don't know.
unfortunately, the slope is VERY slippery in Denmark,
We started with the DNS CP filter, (not required by law (yet)), then it progressed to include allofmp3.com (by law), and latest thepiratebay.org. Now there's talk about including gambling sites as well.
The problem is, most people don't really understand the consequences of these things, based on the spin the media puts on it, if it even reaches that far.
all they hear: Won'tYouThinkOfTheChildren(tm) and ThinkOfThePoorStarvingArtists(tm)...
The sheeple are not even aware that they're selling their basic rights to the lowest bidder.
the first article has been removed, since it was wrong on several points.
http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyheter/ny-dom-paverkar-inte-ipredlagen-1.894500
the court says: IP's are personal information, therefore you can only get this information through a court of law, and this ruling does not affect the Ipred law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPRED
so a sysadm is not prohibited in managing his own network.
What I was talking about wouldn't be classified as sensitive it would be secret and probably would run on it's own machine
If it's data on my network, i can see it. whether it's classified as 'sensitive' or 'secret' is just semantics.
but maybe your right and your elected officials really are as stupid as you say they are. But then that really says something about Denmark doesn't it?
They're not stupid per se, they're just not very knowledgeable about IT. sorta like every other nation on this planet. They are also governed by law as to what they can and cannot do, and they cannot do your AT&T room, nor would this ISP ever do a setup like that without being ordered by a court of law.
So you support DNS filtering? and you support your Politicians even though they are stupid? On the one hand it sounds like you are proud of your country and on the other hand it sounds like you think your government is incompetent and thus hate your country. You should like the Danish version of an American redneck.
No,and No i didn't vote for the current government, I AM proud of my country, my Government are somewhat incompetent, and me believing that any and all governments are not competent enough to get free reign without oversight of the public, does not really imply that i hate my country, just that i don't particularly agree with the current government?.
As I told your friend, who also used the phase 'Machiavellian surveillance' a few messages down, politicians tell people what they want to hear not the truth. If they told the truth they would never get elected in the first place.
That's a nobrainer, really, but they're not THAT smart, and there's still the matter of laws, governing what they can and cannot do. the AT&T room & NSA data mining would be against the Danish 'Grundlov' - our version of the US Constitution.
Yes.. Yes it is... land of the free, waffles and internet censorship... To protect the children!
Can't say that i'm too proud of the Filters, but the danish IT crowd do fight it as best we can. btw... we don't do waffles, we do 'Æbleskiver' (sorta waffle shaped like a bun, apple-flavored, a treat with powdered sugar and strawberry-jam!)
O ok.. sure and you're the senior tech at this ISP and have top level clearance then right? O and you have access to every room in the joint too I'm sure?
Nope, I'm not THE senior tech, but I am one of them, and i DO have root on all our equipment.
So I also take it that the Police and/or government come to you with there high profile requests then
actually, most senior techs here handle these requests whenever they come in. we're all cleared to handle sensitive data.
How the hell do you know anything about what the people in the Danish government know? Are you a member of the Danish government or have you given them a pop-quiz?
Well, I'm Danish, i follow the news and specifically politics regarding IT.
You know, being a normal, concerned citizen in the country i reside in?
oh, and groups like http://www.sslug.dk/ often do pop-quiz our politicians about certain issues, usually before elections
Tinfoil hat.. o that's funny... sure I'm batshit crazy...
I wouldn't know, but you don't seem to know too much about Denmark, while insinuating Machiavellian surveillance schemes here.
Yup I'm the one out in LA LA land... but hey maybe you think that this all is just a US problem. That's cool, just don't call me names when I just pulled three articles out of my ass in 10 seconds and all you have is your goldleef-hat and a box of Kleenex...
Your ass seem to contain lots of articles about US surveillance, but this is Denmark we're talking about.
I'm most certainly not paid enough for a gold leaf hat, but unless someone made an extra dimension for your room 641A, I don't need one either.
MmmmKay...
I happen to be a network tech at a Danish ISP and have been doing so for 10 years.
While we are required to log some stuff for minimum 1 year,
none has ever expressed any interest in DNS logs, ever.
The only authorities who can request any sort of information are Police and military, via a court order.
They can by court order just get the interface of interest mirrored, so why should a understaffed and overworked Police care about what DNS you use?
On that note, very few in the Danish government knows what DNS is.
Your tinfoil hat may to be too tight, me thinks?
I know, I know, i actually read tfa...
it's all speculation, by an Aussie reporter, that it MIGHT be beneficial to disabled gamers.
according to tfa, he speculates, that since it's supposed to work with partially obscured body parts, eg. swinging an arm behind someones back, it might also be usable to amputees.
While i applaud the idea, I'd like to see it in action before we proclaim it our new controller-less overlord.
I'm still waiting for the generic, computer/tv/dvd/ect. peripheral for remote-less control of electronic equipment in my home.
I hate when i get pr0n off any search at home... at work, sure, but when I'm home
...i have better things to do.
this really made my morning, I've been laughing like a maniac while posting /. for making another monday morning merry.
(again)
Thanks,