Before FireFox becomes the target off major exploits. Hopefully Firefox will stand up against it, and the Open source world will respond as fast as expected.
The thing is useless. My Gamecube is sitting in limbo on my shelf. PS3 should finally kill of nintendo once and for all. I simply dont see Nintendo changing their ways. Afterall look at their new lame dual screened handheld system. It looks slapped together and dated.
Then look at Sony's handheld offering. The PSP is sleak, incredible games etc.
I think at E3 2006, Nintendo will be annoucing their own death.
he saying (or the idea behind the saying) "you get what you pay for." VHS is cheaper than DVD, but the quality is less. If I pay more for a car, it's better. More expensive clothes, more quality. An expensive computer is better than a cheap one. Similarly, Windows must be better than Linux because you get what you pay for.
Not really. You make a point but it goes flat when you make the linux comparison. Windows is better than linux for the average user. By average user, i'm talking about "AOL Mom"
"AOL Mom" is not going to have a clue when it comes to linux.
So with your "get what you pay for comparison" Toss in... Your "AOL Mom" gets what she pays for when buying Windows. She gets ease of use... Crayola work flow. PLUS she gets to use AOL and MS WORD, or whatever other billion apps she wants.
Linux is a quality os from the perspective of programmers. Because it is. Its a work of programming art. Its a fast networking/security champion server os, but its not for "AOL Mom" And its not for most folks.
Linux is not as easy, there's no indian tech support guy to call up at 1800-help-me-gates-you-bastard.
When linux goes wrong, you better have a 23 year old coder living at home to fix it or a 33 year old computer sci major to help you.
I grew up running bbs's, running PCBoard, Teleguard, Renegade, Oblivion2 etc... I wrote PCB scripts, configured my pc to run desqview, qemm, etc... i ran a multi line bbs...
and man i'm happy xp is as easy as it is, compared to linux. I just wish it was as well written, and had some of the powerful features of linux. But i wish linux had all of the apps and easy of use that windows has.
Running an update every other month may give you a sense of security but it is a false sense of security!
Thinking your secure because you run linux is also a false sense of security. Any security expert will tell you that.
Switching over to linux doesnt make one secure, especially if you have no idea how to secure it. Windows users know windows, and they know where to go and what to do... When they switch over to linux... that "where to go and what to do" becomes useless.
So now you have a windows user in linux limbo. Thats not secure and perhaps its less secure.
Yes Linux is very secure... If you know what you're doing.
When i ran redhat, i liked it for the most part, but often i felt a little lost. I could figure out a lot but there were times when i was totally lost. Sometimes things didnt work as they should (RPM installs)... I couldnt get a few thigns to install no matter how hard i tried. I had to have a linux expert (friend) make me a new rpm.
Linux is very techy. Its not very crayola. Its a powerful os, with a lot of techy elements to it, and little crayola workflow:) I need it to be a little easier at first.
Linux needs to be easy enough to sit down at, and actually invite the new user through easier welcoming layout of configuration info etc. Installing programs, dependencies... ick... it can get messy, and when you're new to all of that... What should work, doesnt.... you are very much alone.
Yes there is google... and irc... But its not that simple.
I welcome the day i return to linux. I just hope its a much more refined world when i return.
I'm serious about returning. As i write this i want to try it out again. I'm willing to thrash this XP install (which is my secondary pc btw) and install Linux.
I want to... But i know for all of the cool things... linux still isnt a good idea. I will run into the same problems:
"How do i network my xp pc with my linux pc?" "How do i share dirs between them?" "how do i share printers?" "why is the gui so slow?" "Why wont this RPM install?" "I installed this dependency, but it says i dont have it" "Where do i configure the linux firewall?" "HOW do i configure the linux firewall?" "Why dont i just run windows because i know how to do all of these things in there already?"
I welcome the day linux is as refined as windows, and remains as powerful and techy as linux is now. Find that balance... and i'll be back in linux.
Its itching me right now. No i dont want to use WINE to run NEWSBIN PRO:)
GNOME sucks... KDE was pretty cool. Ximian Desktop... UGH.. nightmare...
Gmplayer.... slow performance.... mediaplayerclassic for windows is far better.
Bah Adobe has a lite version called Elements (and really most users could get by with it easily) selling for between $50USD and $100USD now and people are not trampling each other at the cash registers.
Yeah but clearly its obvious that people dont want elements, they want Photoshop. Elements was created as an excuse to continue the high priced photoshop while bitching about piracy.
How many people have Photoshop installed? Yet, how many of those people would have gone out and bought it if they couldn't download it from some bittorrent site?
If Adobe had the balls to sell it for $50, you would see record sales of Adobe Photoshop.
The Videogame industry has sold software for $50 to the masses for over 12 years now and the videogame industry is more profitable than hollywood.
Price the software fairly, and expect to see lots of sales. The day when Super Mario Brothers cost $600... you will see record amounts of videogame piracy.
I hear Senators do illegal things too, perhaps being a senator should be made illegal for the sake of our kids.
Senator Hatch may find p2p offensive, but what i find offensive is our government. First off the guy's party lied to our country in order to profit from the take over of another country. He obviously is getting greased by the RIAA and others who are out to control the market.
This isnt about p2p, its about whoever is paying Hatch money under the table to keep things as they always were for those who control distribution.
Finally the consumer has a voice, and the market is in terror!
During the big Internet boom, corperations were scrambling to figure out what to do with the net. They quickly threw up their corperate sites... We can see Mcdonalds menu online, order pizza hutt online, or download movie trailers...
But they cant control the net. Until now. They're finding ways to weasel their leverage on the internet.
They have absolutely no right to dictate what you code (say)
People talk on P2P networks. People trade recorded TV shows, personally footage. I once knew a website that hosted videos of Wu Shu competitions (Martial arts), and due to the overloading bandwidth on his site... he decided to just host them through WinMX to help ease the burden. He informed everyone through his website, and folks helped by sharing the bandwidth burden.
P2P and SERVERS are a BIG free speech issue. Currently all cable/dsl broadband subscribers are not allowed to run servers. Their Terms of Service clearly state that you can not run servers.
They're taking away the right to contribute to the net at the pipe.
Why? The corperate excuse is.. "Cable cant substain that upload traffic" or "we do not provide dynamic IPs" etc. Whatever the truth, its becoming the standard. And if we allow this to continue, the net will be nothing more than just another corperate marketing tool.
USERS are considered CONSUMERS... and as we know Consumers have very little rights by design.
P2P first... servers next. Why not make FTP illegal? IRC? WWW ? NEWSGROUPS?
Music is different though. Its small, and its also released in uncompressed cds that are easily copied.
The movie industry is a bit different. They release to theaters in film format. The only way to copy the film is to film it with your mini DV cam, or go the very expensive root and have the film scanned.
The other option would be in the future when digital projections are the norm, then someone simply copies and compresses, or hell rips the whole thing.
Music and film are two very different beasts. And have you been to mexico? There is a reason why mexicans try to sneak into the US every day. Mexico is full of poverty.
POVERTY creates piracy. When your audience cant afford your product, and you ignore that fact.... they will rip you off (fight back) anyway they can.
RPMs have given me install problems in the past. Some have refused to install and i being only a novice linux user, had one hell of a time finding out why.
My solution was to give up linux at that point because i had been using it for a few months. I did like it quite a bit. The powerful tools that linux comes with are quite incredible however gui graphic performance, very hard install problems (dependencies, rpms that wont install etc) and the fact that i had to use Wine to run Newsbin pro.
Linux was a fun experience but it was a little rough for me. With a little bit of smoothing out, linux which is an incredible system, could be as easy as windows.
The problem from what i'm guessing is the open source nature of projects. Limited resources to make a single conforming ui flow etc...
I've been thinking about running linux again actually. Its a beast that has always been in the back of my mind nagging me. Its something that is quite fun and its an adventure. A New OS, a powerfull one, that does things windows doesnt... but windows does a lot that linux has problems with and well i kind of need those things... so it keep sme from going back. But i would go back to linux on one of my pcs.
A Libertarian said: Most conservatives I've talked to are totally convinced that they are 100% right and everyone else is 100% wrong, and are not willing to even acknowledge a dissenting viewpoint.
Then a Suspected Conservative said This is such complete and utter bullshit that I don't want to hear another word you say.
As a libertarian, my experience is completely opposite -- I generally find folks on the left to be more comfortable neighbors than those on the right.
Most self-professed liberals I've encountered genuinely respect the rights of others and want to make society more just and equitable for everyone. Most self-professed conservitives I've encountered are intent on imposing their political and religious beliefs on everyone else.
Most liberals I've talked to are willing to have a rational discussion of the issues and are at least willing to listen to an opposing viewpoint Most conservatives I've talked to are totally convinced that they are 100% right and everyone else is 100% wrong, and are not willing to even acknowledge a dissenting viewpoint.
You are a very wise man. No wonder i consider myself part libertarian. Excellent.
CNN is just as lame as Fox News. However Fox News is a pipeline of Bullshit, while CNN is a lame news organization incapable of asking hardquestions and demanding answers.
When is the last time you heard Wolf Blitzer say "Answer this question, or this interview is over... I will not allow you to sit here spreading your FUD, until you answer this question. ANSWER it for... this interview is over"
Never.
But you do have Judy Wooddruff going at Ralph Nader pretty hard in an interview. Hmmm Liberal Media my ass.
The bias thing is based on your own bias before the reporters biased. TV is a prism. You see what you want to see out of it.
Fox news fans are so hatefull of "Liberals" they eat the arogant bullshit pie they call news on Fox News.
I hate the liberals to... Yeah FUCK GEORGE WASHINGTON AND HIS LIBERAL WAYS!;) This country was found by people seeking liberty you fucking fox morons:)
Gawd, you just don't get it do you, there are designers in the studio where I work who will literally wet their khaki corduroy pants over this, not matter how many video cards it requires. Screen real-estate isn't important to the average programmer geek or management wonk, but to a designer (who by definition are very visual people), to have all their tools on screen at once is priceless.
But i do get it. I am a DESIGNER:) I'm a 3d animator for film and videogames as well as an editor.
I DO GET IT. I NEED one:) I cant afford one, and most places will not shell out this much money for a 30inch monitor for all of their animators.
Yes some will show up somewhere, because some boss is like "Whoa... i gotta have it" But it wont be on many desks.
You're point about apple over charging stands though. I never understood the arogance that comes from the apple crowd.
In the editing world.. i deal with folks who blindly love the mac because of protools, yet every time we deal with protools.. its like pulling teeth. These so called "mac experts" simply drive a single app, and cant do anything else to their mac:)
So we take the whole project into vegas, do the dam thing... boom done, so much easier to use... performs better... we just dont get to claim we used protools (cause its cool to do so)
BAH mac users;)
Bah their $4000 monitors too. Though i'm sure they're nice.
People said no will buy a $3500 monitor back when the 23" CInema Display came out. Obiviously someone bought it. I even know a few who did.
I too know someone who had sony 23 inch screens a few years ago.
I rarely see them though on anyones desk, anywhere these days. I guess the price never came down. Here's looking forward to the 30inch in 2008!:)
While I admit, this seems to be pushing the boundaries of what someone may pay for a monitor, I do think there are people who will buy it. Video Editing Suites will probably have one in each master suite. They may not reflect a huge number, but it does start making the technology available to those who would use it.
I've been to enemy winning editing studios here in New York on many occasions. None of that fancy equipt has ever really come down in price. Most of the editors working at these studios, do not own any of this equiptment at home:)
I get your point though. Its new... its going to be making its way into where ever, at some point. Just dont expect it anytime soon.
Early Adopters always get a premium price... but so do late adopters. A lot of this equiptment NEVER comes down in price. Take the Sony TRV900 camcorder. 3 CCD chip camera, phenominal image quality... it cost $2500. Now you can find it for about $1500 or so. But Sony released the TRV950. Same camera basically.. cheaper case design... Still extremely high priced, while the cheapo camcorders are $300 to $1000
Some stuff makes its way down... other things do not.
Obviously their target is not mainstream user. Because he or she cant afford it. The price will not drop on these monitors until someone offers a competing item.
Supply and demand is an equation. If the demand is high and the supply is limited then the price will be higher. If the demand is low and the supply the price will drop.
Take an economics class.
Yes i get that. These arent Ford GTs we're talking about. We're talking about monitors that come off an assembly line. Does apple even manufacture the monitor?
Yes new items will be priced high... i understand greed. I get it. But $4000?
I guess if you absolutely require a 30inch display.. its you're only option. But i cant fathom anyone other than the military buying these things for $4000 each.
I'll stick with my dual sony 21s... and maybe i'll pick up one of those nice 30inch Apple monitors around 2009.
Apple's not charging an outrageous price, even if it is high. Apparently, the market is willing to bear that kind of price.
The market? Which market is that? The market willing to buy a $5000 plasma TV is pretty dam slim compared to those who ACTUALLY WOULD BUY ONE IF THEY WERE AFFORDABLE.
The millions they could rake in.. if they actually sold to the millions of people who want one. But instead they'll sell them to the few thousands who are early biters.
Its a bad move for humanity. It slows down the adoption of new technology, and it hurts profit. It may earn them profit over the long run but really the companies just do this to insure their seat as a corperation among the world.
If they all sold items at an affordable price and we bought them all instantly... they would profit faster.. but competition would be far more feirce. AND THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE AFFRAID OF... LOSING.
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Its dead jim. Bought fucking time. Wake up world.
Before FireFox becomes the target off major exploits. Hopefully Firefox will stand up against it, and the Open source world will respond as fast as expected.
The thing is useless. My Gamecube is sitting in limbo on my shelf. PS3 should finally kill of nintendo once and for all. I simply dont see Nintendo changing their ways. Afterall look at their new lame dual screened handheld system. It looks slapped together and dated.
Then look at Sony's handheld offering. The PSP is sleak, incredible games etc.
I think at E3 2006, Nintendo will be annoucing their own death.
he saying (or the idea behind the saying) "you get what you pay for." VHS is cheaper than DVD, but the quality is less. If I pay more for a car, it's better. More expensive clothes, more quality. An expensive computer is better than a cheap one. Similarly, Windows must be better than Linux because you get what you pay for.
Not really. You make a point but it goes flat when you make the linux comparison. Windows is better than linux for the average user. By average user, i'm talking about "AOL Mom"
"AOL Mom" is not going to have a clue when it comes to linux.
So with your "get what you pay for comparison" Toss in... Your "AOL Mom" gets what she pays for when buying Windows. She gets ease of use... Crayola work flow. PLUS she gets to use AOL and MS WORD, or whatever other billion apps she wants.
Linux is a quality os from the perspective of programmers. Because it is. Its a work of programming art. Its a fast networking/security champion server os, but its not for "AOL Mom" And its not for most folks.
Linux is not as easy, there's no indian tech support guy to call up at 1800-help-me-gates-you-bastard.
When linux goes wrong, you better have a 23 year old coder living at home to fix it or a 33 year old computer sci major to help you.
I grew up running bbs's, running PCBoard, Teleguard, Renegade, Oblivion2 etc... I wrote PCB scripts, configured my pc to run desqview, qemm, etc... i ran a multi line bbs...
and man i'm happy xp is as easy as it is, compared to linux. I just wish it was as well written, and had some of the powerful features of linux. But i wish linux had all of the apps and easy of use that windows has.
Running an update every other month may give you a sense of security but it is a false sense of security!
... I couldnt get a few thigns to install no matter how hard i tried. I had to have a linux expert (friend) make me a new rpm.
:) I need it to be a little easier at first.
:)
Thinking your secure because you run linux is also a false sense of security. Any security expert will tell you that.
Switching over to linux doesnt make one secure, especially if you have no idea how to secure it. Windows users know windows, and they know where to go and what to do... When they switch over to linux... that "where to go and what to do" becomes useless.
So now you have a windows user in linux limbo. Thats not secure and perhaps its less secure.
Yes Linux is very secure... If you know what you're doing.
When i ran redhat, i liked it for the most part, but often i felt a little lost. I could figure out a lot but there were times when i was totally lost. Sometimes things didnt work as they should (RPM installs)
Linux is very techy. Its not very crayola. Its a powerful os, with a lot of techy elements to it, and little crayola workflow
Linux needs to be easy enough to sit down at, and actually invite the new user through easier welcoming layout of configuration info etc. Installing programs, dependencies... ick... it can get messy, and when you're new to all of that... What should work, doesnt.... you are very much alone.
Yes there is google... and irc... But its not that simple.
I welcome the day i return to linux. I just hope its a much more refined world when i return.
I'm serious about returning. As i write this i want to try it out again. I'm willing to thrash this XP install (which is my secondary pc btw) and install Linux.
I want to... But i know for all of the cool things... linux still isnt a good idea. I will run into the same problems:
"How do i network my xp pc with my linux pc?"
"How do i share dirs between them?"
"how do i share printers?"
"why is the gui so slow?" "Why wont this RPM install?"
"I installed this dependency, but it says i dont have it"
"Where do i configure the linux firewall?"
"HOW do i configure the linux firewall?"
"Why dont i just run windows because i know how to do all of these things in there already?"
I welcome the day linux is as refined as windows, and remains as powerful and techy as linux is now. Find that balance... and i'll be back in linux.
Its itching me right now. No i dont want to use WINE to run NEWSBIN PRO
GNOME sucks... KDE was pretty cool. Ximian Desktop... UGH.. nightmare...
Gmplayer.... slow performance.... mediaplayerclassic for windows is far better.
Its that simple. As long as workers can be fired and treated like shit, companies should simply die when they run out of money. They failed.
Bah Adobe has a lite version called Elements (and really most users could get by with it easily) selling for between $50USD and $100USD now and people are not trampling each other at the cash registers.
Yeah but clearly its obvious that people dont want elements, they want Photoshop. Elements was created as an excuse to continue the high priced photoshop while bitching about piracy.
How many people have Photoshop installed? Yet, how many of those people would have gone out and bought it if they couldn't download it from some bittorrent site?
If Adobe had the balls to sell it for $50, you would see record sales of Adobe Photoshop.
The Videogame industry has sold software for $50 to the masses for over 12 years now and the videogame industry is more profitable than hollywood.
Price the software fairly, and expect to see lots of sales. The day when Super Mario Brothers cost $600... you will see record amounts of videogame piracy.
Even adobe sells an image editor for $100
Yeah but everyone wants photoshop, not some $100 balls cut off image app.
And here i thought it was the high software prices that cause people to pirate.
There are more illegal photoshop users than legal. If Adobe had the balls to sell it for $50 a box... Adobe would do pretty well.
I hear Senators do illegal things too, perhaps being a senator should be made illegal for the sake of our kids.
Senator Hatch may find p2p offensive, but what i find offensive is our government. First off the guy's party lied to our country in order to profit from the take over of another country. He obviously is getting greased by the RIAA and others who are out to control the market.
This isnt about p2p, its about whoever is paying Hatch money under the table to keep things as they always were for those who control distribution.
Finally the consumer has a voice, and the market is in terror!
During the big Internet boom, corperations were scrambling to figure out what to do with the net. They quickly threw up their corperate sites... We can see Mcdonalds menu online, order pizza hutt online, or download movie trailers...
But they cant control the net. Until now. They're finding ways to weasel their leverage on the internet.
They have absolutely no right to dictate what you code (say)
People talk on P2P networks. People trade recorded TV shows, personally footage. I once knew a website that hosted videos of Wu Shu competitions (Martial arts), and due to the overloading bandwidth on his site... he decided to just host them through WinMX to help ease the burden. He informed everyone through his website, and folks helped by sharing the bandwidth burden.
P2P and SERVERS are a BIG free speech issue. Currently all cable/dsl broadband subscribers are not allowed to run servers. Their Terms of Service clearly state that you can not run servers.
They're taking away the right to contribute to the net at the pipe.
Why? The corperate excuse is.. "Cable cant substain that upload traffic" or "we do not provide dynamic IPs" etc. Whatever the truth, its becoming the standard. And if we allow this to continue, the net will be nothing more than just another corperate marketing tool.
USERS are considered CONSUMERS... and as we know Consumers have very little rights by design.
P2P first... servers next. Why not make FTP illegal? IRC? WWW ? NEWSGROUPS?
Its all about control.
Music is different though. Its small, and its also released in uncompressed cds that are easily copied. The movie industry is a bit different. They release to theaters in film format. The only way to copy the film is to film it with your mini DV cam, or go the very expensive root and have the film scanned. The other option would be in the future when digital projections are the norm, then someone simply copies and compresses, or hell rips the whole thing. Music and film are two very different beasts. And have you been to mexico? There is a reason why mexicans try to sneak into the US every day. Mexico is full of poverty. POVERTY creates piracy. When your audience cant afford your product, and you ignore that fact.... they will rip you off (fight back) anyway they can.
Oh and there are RPMS
RPMs have given me install problems in the past. Some have refused to install and i being only a novice linux user, had one hell of a time finding out why.
My solution was to give up linux at that point because i had been using it for a few months. I did like it quite a bit. The powerful tools that linux comes with are quite incredible however gui graphic performance, very hard install problems (dependencies, rpms that wont install etc) and the fact that i had to use Wine to run Newsbin pro.
Linux was a fun experience but it was a little rough for me. With a little bit of smoothing out, linux which is an incredible system, could be as easy as windows.
The problem from what i'm guessing is the open source nature of projects. Limited resources to make a single conforming ui flow etc...
I've been thinking about running linux again actually. Its a beast that has always been in the back of my mind nagging me. Its something that is quite fun and its an adventure. A New OS, a powerfull one, that does things windows doesnt... but windows does a lot that linux has problems with and well i kind of need those things... so it keep sme from going back. But i would go back to linux on one of my pcs.
The US Court of Appeals for the First Circuit are a bunch of fucking morons.
Dude, get your irony meter cleaned.
:)
Yes i know... i got it. I'm just pointing it out
This is a perfect example:
;)
A Libertarian said:
Most conservatives I've talked to are totally convinced that they are 100% right and everyone else is 100% wrong, and are not willing to even acknowledge a dissenting viewpoint.
Then a Suspected Conservative said
This is such complete and utter bullshit that I don't want to hear another word you say.
Proving the liberarians point
As a libertarian, my experience is completely opposite -- I generally find folks on the left to be more comfortable neighbors than those on the right.
Most self-professed liberals I've encountered genuinely respect the rights of others and want to make society more just and equitable for everyone.
Most self-professed conservitives I've encountered are intent on imposing their political and religious beliefs on everyone else.
Most liberals I've talked to are willing to have a rational discussion of the issues and are at least willing to listen to an opposing viewpoint
Most conservatives I've talked to are totally convinced that they are 100% right and everyone else is 100% wrong, and are not willing to even acknowledge a dissenting viewpoint.
You are a very wise man. No wonder i consider myself part libertarian. Excellent.
If CNN is left wing, then I'm Miles Davis.
;) This country was found by people seeking liberty you fucking fox morons :)
Well you sure aint Miles Fucking Davis.
CNN is just as lame as Fox News. However Fox News is a pipeline of Bullshit, while CNN is a lame news organization incapable of asking hardquestions and demanding answers.
When is the last time you heard Wolf Blitzer say "Answer this question, or this interview is over... I will not allow you to sit here spreading your FUD, until you answer this question. ANSWER it for... this interview is over"
Never.
But you do have Judy Wooddruff going at Ralph Nader pretty hard in an interview. Hmmm Liberal Media my ass.
The bias thing is based on your own bias before the reporters biased. TV is a prism. You see what you want to see out of it.
Fox news fans are so hatefull of "Liberals" they eat the arogant bullshit pie they call news on Fox News.
I hate the liberals to... Yeah FUCK GEORGE WASHINGTON AND HIS LIBERAL WAYS!
I really don't care WHAT they call themselves; I can decide that for myself. Moore lies, so does Rush
:)
No, actually Rush lies, and Moore points it out
Well, consider that the price to produce most of this stuff is quite high. Companies are trying to make back their investments in
Absolutely. The question is though, how much does it cost to manufacture, and whats a fair profit?
And would they not make back their investment even faster, if they sold more at a lower price?
(Of course this is if supplies are available regularly) Does Apple manufacture them or buy the parts from some taiwan monitor company?
Gawd, you just don't get it do you, there are designers in the studio where I work who will literally wet their khaki corduroy pants over this, not matter how many video cards it requires. Screen real-estate isn't important to the average programmer geek or management wonk, but to a designer (who by definition are very visual people), to have all their tools on screen at once is priceless.
:) I'm a 3d animator for film and videogames as well as an editor.
:) I cant afford one, and most places will not shell out this much money for a 30inch monitor for all of their animators.
:)
;)
But i do get it. I am a DESIGNER
I DO GET IT. I NEED one
Yes some will show up somewhere, because some boss is like "Whoa... i gotta have it" But it wont be on many desks.
You're point about apple over charging stands though. I never understood the arogance that comes from the apple crowd.
In the editing world.. i deal with folks who blindly love the mac because of protools, yet every time we deal with protools.. its like pulling teeth. These so called "mac experts" simply drive a single app, and cant do anything else to their mac
So we take the whole project into vegas, do the dam thing... boom done, so much easier to use... performs better... we just dont get to claim we used protools (cause its cool to do so)
BAH mac users
Bah their $4000 monitors too. Though i'm sure they're nice.
People said no will buy a $3500 monitor back when the 23" CInema Display came out. Obiviously someone bought it. I even know a few who did.
:)
:)
I too know someone who had sony 23 inch screens a few years ago.
I rarely see them though on anyones desk, anywhere these days. I guess the price never came down. Here's looking forward to the 30inch in 2008!
While I admit, this seems to be pushing the boundaries of what someone may pay for a monitor, I do think there are people who will buy it. Video Editing Suites will probably have one in each master suite. They may not reflect a huge number, but it does start making the technology available to those who would use it.
I've been to enemy winning editing studios here in New York on many occasions. None of that fancy equipt has ever really come down in price. Most of the editors working at these studios, do not own any of this equiptment at home
I get your point though. Its new... its going to be making its way into where ever, at some point. Just dont expect it anytime soon.
Early Adopters always get a premium price... but so do late adopters. A lot of this equiptment NEVER comes down in price. Take the Sony TRV900 camcorder. 3 CCD chip camera, phenominal image quality... it cost $2500. Now you can find it for about $1500 or so. But Sony released the TRV950. Same camera basically.. cheaper case design... Still extremely high priced, while the cheapo camcorders are $300 to $1000
Some stuff makes its way down... other things do not.
Obviously their target is not mainstream user. Because he or she cant afford it. The price will not drop on these monitors until someone offers a competing item.
write a fucking letter to them, telling them you know better, or shut the fuck up.
Here's my asshole troll.. Suck it... Just push your dead mothers head to the side first.
Fucking coward. Atleast i speak my mind, while you hide behind the curtains like the pussy your daddy raised you to be.
Supply and demand is an equation. If the demand is high and the supply is limited then the price will be higher. If the demand is low and the supply the price will drop.
Take an economics class.
Yes i get that. These arent Ford GTs we're talking about. We're talking about monitors that come off an assembly line. Does apple even manufacture the monitor?
Yes new items will be priced high... i understand greed. I get it. But $4000?
I guess if you absolutely require a 30inch display.. its you're only option. But i cant fathom anyone other than the military buying these things for $4000 each.
I'll stick with my dual sony 21s... and maybe i'll pick up one of those nice 30inch Apple monitors around 2009.
Apple's not charging an outrageous price, even if it is high. Apparently, the market is willing to bear that kind of price.
The market? Which market is that? The market willing to buy a $5000 plasma TV is pretty dam slim compared to those who ACTUALLY WOULD BUY ONE IF THEY WERE AFFORDABLE.
The millions they could rake in.. if they actually sold to the millions of people who want one. But instead they'll sell them to the few thousands who are early biters.
Its a bad move for humanity. It slows down the adoption of new technology, and it hurts profit. It may earn them profit over the long run but really the companies just do this to insure their seat as a corperation among the world.
If they all sold items at an affordable price and we bought them all instantly... they would profit faster.. but competition would be far more feirce. AND THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE AFFRAID OF... LOSING.