I dont know about you guys, but i remember dl'ing stuff on bbs's at 14.4, 9600, 1200, etc.
That was many years ago.
Why is it so fucking hard for an ISP to get the concept of computers? SPEED MATTERS. Every fucking day... SPEED matters. This is a speed race.
ISP's are complaining and whining about high bandwidth use, like i was whining about my 286 not being fast enough. Well.. maybe the ISP's should do what i did then... UPGRADE.
Technology doesnt get slower... it gets faster. Thats the nature. ISP seem to think this doesnt apply to them. If they cant keep up, then just say it. That way your stock holders can invest in REAL service providers, instead of greedy, milk the old network to death, fuddy duddies that just dont get this whole "computer thing"
Why would Blu-ray be obsolete? WHY? We dont even have broadcast HD TV in 1080P, and even if we did, it would be compressed to shit. Even on my FIOS TV, verizon is comperssing the signal so much that all fast motion looks absolutely terrible.
Its not High DEF, if you're compressing the pixel detail (high definition) out of the picture.
Blu-ray will be around for a while. The market will not tolerate a replacement in 5 years. I know the big suits would love to have us rebuying our films every 5 years in new formats... but thats just fucking ridiculous. It will force consumers to simply give up and revolt. DVD will then win.
No one is going to tolerate standards that change so fast, that they are no longer standards.
I'm not talking about editing. FUCK editing. I know photoshop inside and out since version 2. Thats not what i'm talking about. I'm saying the specific nature of being able to catalogue a lot of images on disc, including all of the various formats used, such as tga, exr, pic, iff, map, etc. A way to browse through them nicely and maintain meta data with them.
There are no really good image asset management apps.
Picasa, is a toy. It shouldnt be used by anyone because it lacks color management and format support. Grandma isnt shooting hundreds of thousands of images, she doesnt neeed a huge search able database.
People dealing with lots of images need search able databases...
Safari runs slower than Chrome in 64bit Vista on my quadcore machine. Firefox3 also ran gmail better than Chrome.
Safari is complete shit. As far as i'm concerned, Apple cant program anything properly. The iPhone OS is a disaster right now (see Apple logo of death), itunes has been a complete peice of shit ever since it first became itunes, and Safari continues the trend.
Ok maybe its my biased PC outlook, but if they cant get stuff running on windows, they're pathetic.
Back to Chrome... its pretty, and it runs better than Safari (scrolls smoother), but it had some problems. One problem i noted is... Go to youtube.com in the search box on youtube, enter a phrase like "gone home", now click your mouse pointer between gone and home... and drag to the left to highlight the word "gone". If you drag it all the way to the left, past the edge of the search box... the word "home" gets selected.
I found that very anoying. Firefox does not do this.
I cant imagine Google has any interest in allowing people to block ads through extensions. Hell it may be the ultimate reason why Chrome exists and Google has moved away from mozilla. I mean Firefox is fine as is... It even has color management (which is off by default... WHY ? I have no idea)
Chrome's not ready... obviously... its a beta.:) I dont think it will really take off much. Its too simple, doesnt perform as well as firefox, and lacks the customization that ultimately leads to adblocking.
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I found the EXACT opposite. Firefox ran Gmail better than Chrome. Scrolling through my list of emails in gmail was faster in Firefox3. I'm curious how you think it is faster, because based on scrolling, FireFox3 had it beat by far.
Yeah but does Picasa finally support Color Management?
Does it support production quality image formats such as TGA, EXR, IFF, PIC, etc...
Picasa is a neat app, but its a toy. Why cant it be production ready too? I know as a 3d artist, i would love to have a nice way to catalogue all of my textures, renders etc all in a nice single smart searchable database... Besides vista search that is.
I'm well aware that he has been considered a closet Democrat for sometime. Back in the Clinton Years he was virtually a traitor by Republican standards. It even makes me wonder if hes purposely losing the election for Republicans, just to get the Democrats elected... so we can save this country.
Firefox out performs Chrome. I did some testing last night and i found it histerical that firefox scrolls gmail better, than Google's Chrome:)
Firefox is just a better browser. Chrome is pretty, i like the tabs on top but its just not ready. If it doesnt have any extensions like firefox, it will never be taken seriously.
Adblock Plus is a MUST have feature for all web users. Mouse Gestures are essential to my browsing habits.
Firefox is faster, and is more focused on freedom. Google wants your ad dollars, so expect it to be THE SPAM browser.
I'm concerned that it may have doubleclick stuff built in. Will google track EVERYTHIGN i do now? I get a free browser so Google can spy on me and make money? FireFox does this with a little more dignity.
Its cute, but under the hood... i smell SPAM land. I wouldnt be suprised if they tried to change the entire way advertising and user habits are user tracked. Google has something up their sleave, and its all about making money through ad revenue.
I cant trust that they have my personal freedom in mind.
Yup, this is a calculated move by McCain. He doesnt care about having a women VP personally, this is just a move to try to win the feeble minds of Hillary supporters. McCain is betting on that the women who were pro Hillary, are dumb enough to vote for a female VP just out of spite. The ironic thing is... She'll just be a VP, and not president. A Man, will be President either way. So I hope McCain is wrong, in that Hillary supporters are not that dumb, and they will make the better choice for our country, which is is obviously Obama.
Having a Vagina in the oval Office as VP is NOT more important than the issues that face us all. The democrats have a better vision, and let us not for get that Hillary is a Democrat, and she disagrees with McCain's platform completely.
So the obvious choice is Obama for our future. It would have been wonderful to have a female President, but its equally wonderful to have a Black man as president. But in reality, this entire issue is created by the media. They are pitting voters against each other, for a story and ratings. Dont fall victom to the nonsense. There are REAL issues out there that need solutions. Dont forget the last 8 years. We have serious problems that need serious, NEW solutions from a party not afraid to change things for the better of our future.
The democrats are our only option. I'd love a solid third party candidate, as i've voted independent in the last few elections, but this time i'm voting Democrat. There is just too much at stake. We need to fix this country, our economy, our healthcare, the war, etc. We have serious problems.... and its time to get do something. It cant be republicans... they had their chance.
Of course Apple pays for product placement. Apple is plastered all over Metal Gear Solid 4.
If Apple didnt pay for their product placement, they would be sueing large corporations that are using their brands image, products and so forth... for financial gain.
The iPhone 2.0 software has a serious bug that renders all iphones useless. Apple has released 2 updates since the release of 2.0 software and this issue has not been solved. This is a serious problem. The iPhone right now as it is.... is a waste of money. Do not buy it. Read on. Apple refuses to describe the bugs it fixes, so we dont know what they're doing with these updates, and they have not acknowledged this issuse. Many iPhone users are left in the dark.
Yeah there is that whole side of it, and i agree with you on that point... its just that i tend to also look at it as... it's just the polite thing to do. I'm all for, if they're in public, then so be it. They are in the public eye, which also means a camera as well.
I do have a problem with how the photogs get a bad rep for it, because often these celebs love the extra public attention. Often its all setup anyways. Its all photo op for publicity... sometimes its candid, and other times is conspired.
But i tend to think, if some celeb is with their family and they're going for a hike in the woods... maybe just let them be and enjoy their family moment... alone without hassle.
I guess i'm kind of the guy that thinks its hard to be a public persona. Yes they abuse that often, with bullshit pr stunts and fake candid photos etc... but i can easily see it being very frustrating for the celeb when they would like to be just left alone. They shouldnt have to just be locked up in their house.
Would i snap a picture of a celeb if i saw them... sure. Would i hunt them down on their vacations to stalk them on a beach? no. Its kind of tasteless. IF i happened to be there... sure, i probably would snap off a shot. They might even be kind enough to let me. And i would be respectful enough to decide if i should even ask or interrupt their time.
I go both ways on this one:) I think it really depends on the situation. I'm not in the business of stalkeratzi:) I'm a 3d animator professionally, and i've done studio photography on the side professionally.
Morgan Freeman rolls a car, you find him on the side of the road... do you take a picture? Well the guy who found him, did do that. Do i blaim him and think it was wrong? no. Do i think he's wrong for selling it? no. But then again, he was decent enough to call for help and help him. He wasnt stalking morgan freeman.
I go both ways. I just tend to put myself in their situation... sometimes is nice to just scratch your balls and pick your nose without someone judging you.
Demanding to see a warrant is a great idea. However it may also get you in worse trouble. An asshole cop may not take your challenge of his authority so well.
There are some circumstances when they can search your vehicle or you... but I'm not sure if you have to first be arrested for suspicion or not.
I'm sure there are some friendly lawyers who could shed light on this.
I'm a photographer. I own $2000 telephoto lenses, lots of gear etc etc... There is a discrimination against photographers. I shoot studio photography mainly but i always fear that if i take good gear somewhere, that i wont be let in.
The common example is any sport event. Baseball, Football, Tennis etc. They all tend to have a lense length rule. If your camera looks professional, then you must be a processional. So they cant risk you snapping off pictures of their sport without authorization. I kind of understand this... but at the same time, anyone bringing a point and shoot $300 camera to baseball game, isnt going to get a picture of anything.
Its quite unfair that these camera companies are producing very nice digital SLRS... even entry level models for people to learn with, and they cant use them anywhere.
The irony is that Canon advertises after every dam football game that "Canon is the official camera of the NFL", while the people they're advertising to cant bring those same canon cameras and lenses to a game if they sit in the stands.
Photographers are a threat to freedom, as we're denied freedom.
I tend to side against the "fleas" who snap celeb pictures in private settings. I find it distasteful and insulting. I would be furious if i were being stalked by photographers all day. But in public... fair is fair. And then theres the otherside of it that is complete bullshit, staged publicity... And its usually the photogs are the ones who are still blaimed, despite it being a staged pr stunt.
A publicly funded museum should be fair grounds to shoot. Cameras are not a threat to security. The museum is just concerned that you will photograph their art and post it on a website. They're afraid of losing patronage.
This whole terrorism shit has to stop. Its just so bad for the health of our country. It almost makes me think the government planned 9/11t, just to get more power over us. I know thats silly but... it sure does seem like the government loves to take away our freedoms.
I appreciate your response, and the tone. Im all for talking about the issue.
I'm curious as to what your user habits are with the iphone. This will help me, and others perhaps understand where we differ in experiences. To answer your question, the problem many of us are having, is that it can not reboot at all. The phone stops working in every aspect and gets stuck at the apple logo. This renders the phone useless while away from home. The only solution is to restore the phone at home, on the computer you have itunes installed on. This is a pretty lengthy process, 2 hours at least. Often if you restore from a back up, it will take 3 hours or more. The worst part is that backing up the phone takes about 2 to 3 hours as well, so many are canceling the backup process when they sync their phone.
This comes to my question for you. The long back up and restore times are due to apps, and the number of them. For example a lot of apps are 300KB, and they can take 5 to 10 minutes to install each. App's like Texas Hold em from Apple, which are 128MB, take longer. The more apps you have, the longer it takes obviously.
My question to you is, how many applications do you have installed? There is a theory that the more apps you have, the more likely this serious problem will occur. Many of us are finding that specific steps will cause this problem. If you want, you can try them. However this again may be related to some kind of uninstall/install corruption that is occurring when a large number of apps are installed.
So if you have a few apps, then perhaps you may not see it. I can personally, and i will speak for others in the thread, that if you baby the phone, and tip toe around the problem, you can avoid it. However its not completely avoidable because in order to avoid it, you kind of need to use the phone differently than intended. For example, not installing apps through the app store on the phone and never uninstalling an app through the phone itself.
One specific set of steps that i've found cause this problem is to go to do the following:
Do the following on the iPhone itself. (not on a pc/mac itunes)
- Launch App Store (on iphone) - Install an application (Pick any free application)
(The icon now appears on your iphone desktop, and it should be showing the install progress bar)
-As it is downloading (progress bar still moving), launch the app store again.
(At this point the Apps store should launch, but hang at some point)
The iphone will freeze, and you will be forced to reboot it. However the iphone never reboots. It should be dead at this point.
Now with these steps i've managed to cause the problem 3 times. You can see that this is a kind of "multitask" workflow. The iphone doesnt multitask well. So this isnt something you generally do, but you could do it in a hurry, by mistake or just simply not knowing. Now i'll be the first to say that it may not trigger the bug everytime, but other "multitasking" like user inputs while installing an app can trigger this serious problem.
This problem is not specific to this process, but this is a way to simply see the situation. This entire "Apple logo of death" problem is related to apps, the installation, removal, and serious hard app crashes. Apps crash every so, but sometimes they'll go down hard and take the phone with it.
Now to give you an example... Today i had to restore. This isnt bullshit, i wouldnt waste my time writing this if it were. It is a frustrating situation and i want it resolved. Anyways, today i was installing an app. I launched the apps store on the iphone, downloaded an app on the iphone, and installed it. During the isntall process, it froze. I had not tried to force any kind of multi task. I let the phone sit and do its thing. The iphone never booted up again.
I had to restore it. That took 3 hours today this morning. I actually took a nap while it did.
Now i've had the reverse. I've installed an app through the iphone app store... (Again none of this is th
We're a bunch of stupid bitches. America is a fuck fest of bullshit. Some of us US citizens do hope the world can see beyond the Government/Corporate dictatorship we live under. Some of us Americans do still believe in Freedom at all cost. Its a shame our govenrment exists to control our citizens like the the consumer cattle that we are... but what choice do we have? Our election system is broken, our political system is rigged, and there is a mountain of bullshit in between it all, acting as the glue that keeps the great wall standing tall.
We're fucked. Eat it and weep.
Look into George Carlin's last HBO special where he simply tells it like it is... his final home run... a perfect gift to us stupid fucking americans.
Blog away. There is no "fair and balanced" world. If someone feels their opinions aren't represented, shouldn't they get off their ass and represent themselves? We're all a bunch of lazy babies. We deserve this mess we call a country.
Its behavior like what? Try reading the entire thread. Oh i'm sorry, am we all supposed to enjoy our iphones that become useless on the road? The multiple silver apple logo's of death that prevent us from calling, receiving calls... and making 911 calls? The same fucking problem that that SHUTS down our phone... a phone that we are still paying for service for?
Ok sir. Salute the flag and shut up... I get it...
We'll all keep paying our monthly contracts, while our phones dont work. That makes perfect sense doesnt it? Thank you for your wisdom.
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I dont know about you guys, but i remember dl'ing stuff on bbs's at 14.4, 9600, 1200, etc.
That was many years ago.
Why is it so fucking hard for an ISP to get the concept of computers? SPEED MATTERS. Every fucking day... SPEED matters. This is a speed race.
ISP's are complaining and whining about high bandwidth use, like i was whining about my 286 not being fast enough. Well.. maybe the ISP's should do what i did then... UPGRADE.
Technology doesnt get slower... it gets faster. Thats the nature. ISP seem to think this doesnt apply to them. If they cant keep up, then just say it. That way your stock holders can invest in REAL service providers, instead of greedy, milk the old network to death, fuddy duddies that just dont get this whole "computer thing"
They never did anyways.
Why would Blu-ray be obsolete? WHY? We dont even have broadcast HD TV in 1080P, and even if we did, it would be compressed to shit. Even on my FIOS TV, verizon is comperssing the signal so much that all fast motion looks absolutely terrible.
Its not High DEF, if you're compressing the pixel detail (high definition) out of the picture.
Blu-ray will be around for a while. The market will not tolerate a replacement in 5 years. I know the big suits would love to have us rebuying our films every 5 years in new formats... but thats just fucking ridiculous. It will force consumers to simply give up and revolt. DVD will then win.
No one is going to tolerate standards that change so fast, that they are no longer standards.
I'm not talking about editing. FUCK editing. I know photoshop inside and out since version 2. Thats not what i'm talking about. I'm saying the specific nature of being able to catalogue a lot of images on disc, including all of the various formats used, such as tga, exr, pic, iff, map, etc. A way to browse through them nicely and maintain meta data with them.
There are no really good image asset management apps.
Picasa, is a toy. It shouldnt be used by anyone because it lacks color management and format support. Grandma isnt shooting hundreds of thousands of images, she doesnt neeed a huge search able database.
People dealing with lots of images need search able databases...
Safari runs slower than Chrome in 64bit Vista on my quadcore machine. Firefox3 also ran gmail better than Chrome.
Safari is complete shit. As far as i'm concerned, Apple cant program anything properly. The iPhone OS is a disaster right now (see Apple logo of death), itunes has been a complete peice of shit ever since it first became itunes, and Safari continues the trend.
Ok maybe its my biased PC outlook, but if they cant get stuff running on windows, they're pathetic.
Back to Chrome... its pretty, and it runs better than Safari (scrolls smoother), but it had some problems. One problem i noted is... Go to youtube.com in the search box on youtube, enter a phrase like "gone home", now click your mouse pointer between gone and home... and drag to the left to highlight the word "gone". If you drag it all the way to the left, past the edge of the search box... the word "home" gets selected.
I found that very anoying. Firefox does not do this.
I cant imagine Google has any interest in allowing people to block ads through extensions. Hell it may be the ultimate reason why Chrome exists and Google has moved away from mozilla. I mean Firefox is fine as is... It even has color management (which is off by default... WHY ? I have no idea)
Chrome's not ready... obviously... its a beta. :) I dont think it will really take off much. Its too simple, doesnt perform as well as firefox, and lacks the customization that ultimately leads to adblocking.
I found the EXACT opposite. Firefox ran Gmail better than Chrome. Scrolling through my list of emails in gmail was faster in Firefox3. I'm curious how you think it is faster, because based on scrolling, FireFox3 had it beat by far.
I do think Chrome is rather pretty looking :)
Yeah but does Picasa finally support Color Management?
Does it support production quality image formats such as TGA, EXR, IFF, PIC, etc...
Picasa is a neat app, but its a toy. Why cant it be production ready too? I know as a 3d artist, i would love to have a nice way to catalogue all of my textures, renders etc all in a nice single smart searchable database... Besides vista search that is.
I'm well aware that he has been considered a closet Democrat for sometime. Back in the Clinton Years he was virtually a traitor by Republican standards. It even makes me wonder if hes purposely losing the election for Republicans, just to get the Democrats elected... so we can save this country.
Firefox out performs Chrome. I did some testing last night and i found it histerical that firefox scrolls gmail better, than Google's Chrome :)
Firefox is just a better browser. Chrome is pretty, i like the tabs on top but its just not ready. If it doesnt have any extensions like firefox, it will never be taken seriously.
Adblock Plus is a MUST have feature for all web users. Mouse Gestures are essential to my browsing habits.
Firefox is faster, and is more focused on freedom. Google wants your ad dollars, so expect it to be THE SPAM browser.
I'm concerned that it may have doubleclick stuff built in. Will google track EVERYTHIGN i do now? I get a free browser so Google can spy on me and make money? FireFox does this with a little more dignity.
Its cute, but under the hood... i smell SPAM land. I wouldnt be suprised if they tried to change the entire way advertising and user habits are user tracked. Google has something up their sleave, and its all about making money through ad revenue.
I cant trust that they have my personal freedom in mind.
If thats so, why the fuck does safari scroll like shit? Perhaps the same reason Itunes scrolls like shit?
nvidia drivers work just fine. This isnt jan 07 anymore :)
Yup, this is a calculated move by McCain. He doesnt care about having a women VP personally, this is just a move to try to win the feeble minds of Hillary supporters. McCain is betting on that the women who were pro Hillary, are dumb enough to vote for a female VP just out of spite. The ironic thing is... She'll just be a VP, and not president. A Man, will be President either way. So I hope McCain is wrong, in that Hillary supporters are not that dumb, and they will make the better choice for our country, which is is obviously Obama.
Having a Vagina in the oval Office as VP is NOT more important than the issues that face us all. The democrats have a better vision, and let us not for get that Hillary is a Democrat, and she disagrees with McCain's platform completely.
So the obvious choice is Obama for our future. It would have been wonderful to have a female President, but its equally wonderful to have a Black man as president. But in reality, this entire issue is created by the media. They are pitting voters against each other, for a story and ratings. Dont fall victom to the nonsense. There are REAL issues out there that need solutions. Dont forget the last 8 years. We have serious problems that need serious, NEW solutions from a party not afraid to change things for the better of our future.
The democrats are our only option. I'd love a solid third party candidate, as i've voted independent in the last few elections, but this time i'm voting Democrat. There is just too much at stake. We need to fix this country, our economy, our healthcare, the war, etc. We have serious problems.... and its time to get do something. It cant be republicans... they had their chance.
"Window's Vista is gay... not that there's anything wrong with that."
Honestly, Vista isnt that horrible.
Of course Apple pays for product placement. Apple is plastered all over Metal Gear Solid 4.
If Apple didnt pay for their product placement, they would be sueing large corporations that are using their brands image, products and so forth... for financial gain.
Actually it appears as of tuesday, Apple may have acknowledged the issue finally. We'll see. But it has been HELL.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/08/19/steve_jobs_vows_iphone_app_crash_fix_for_september.html
The iPhone 2.0 software has a serious bug that renders all iphones useless. Apple has released 2 updates since the release of 2.0 software and this issue has not been solved. This is a serious problem. The iPhone right now as it is.... is a waste of money. Do not buy it. Read on. Apple refuses to describe the bugs it fixes, so we dont know what they're doing with these updates, and they have not acknowledged this issuse. Many iPhone users are left in the dark.
http://www.macworld.com/article/134923/2008/08/iphonedebug.html#commentsjump
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/08/07/white-apple-logo-screen-of-death-stops-iphones-in-their-tracks/
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1600894&tstart=25&start=500
Yeah there is that whole side of it, and i agree with you on that point... its just that i tend to also look at it as... it's just the polite thing to do. I'm all for, if they're in public, then so be it. They are in the public eye, which also means a camera as well.
I do have a problem with how the photogs get a bad rep for it, because often these celebs love the extra public attention. Often its all setup anyways. Its all photo op for publicity... sometimes its candid, and other times is conspired.
But i tend to think, if some celeb is with their family and they're going for a hike in the woods... maybe just let them be and enjoy their family moment... alone without hassle.
I guess i'm kind of the guy that thinks its hard to be a public persona. Yes they abuse that often, with bullshit pr stunts and fake candid photos etc... but i can easily see it being very frustrating for the celeb when they would like to be just left alone. They shouldnt have to just be locked up in their house.
Would i snap a picture of a celeb if i saw them... sure. Would i hunt them down on their vacations to stalk them on a beach? no. Its kind of tasteless. IF i happened to be there... sure, i probably would snap off a shot. They might even be kind enough to let me. And i would be respectful enough to decide if i should even ask or interrupt their time.
I go both ways on this one :) I think it really depends on the situation. I'm not in the business of stalkeratzi :) I'm a 3d animator professionally, and i've done studio photography on the side professionally.
Morgan Freeman rolls a car, you find him on the side of the road... do you take a picture? Well the guy who found him, did do that. Do i blaim him and think it was wrong? no. Do i think he's wrong for selling it? no. But then again, he was decent enough to call for help and help him. He wasnt stalking morgan freeman.
I go both ways. I just tend to put myself in their situation... sometimes is nice to just scratch your balls and pick your nose without someone judging you.
No, Google and Microsoft had already done it for them.
Demanding to see a warrant is a great idea. However it may also get you in worse trouble. An asshole cop may not take your challenge of his authority so well.
There are some circumstances when they can search your vehicle or you... but I'm not sure if you have to first be arrested for suspicion or not.
I'm sure there are some friendly lawyers who could shed light on this.
I'm a photographer. I own $2000 telephoto lenses, lots of gear etc etc... There is a discrimination against photographers. I shoot studio photography mainly but i always fear that if i take good gear somewhere, that i wont be let in.
The common example is any sport event. Baseball, Football, Tennis etc. They all tend to have a lense length rule. If your camera looks professional, then you must be a processional. So they cant risk you snapping off pictures of their sport without authorization. I kind of understand this... but at the same time, anyone bringing a point and shoot $300 camera to baseball game, isnt going to get a picture of anything.
Its quite unfair that these camera companies are producing very nice digital SLRS... even entry level models for people to learn with, and they cant use them anywhere.
The irony is that Canon advertises after every dam football game that "Canon is the official camera of the NFL", while the people they're advertising to cant bring those same canon cameras and lenses to a game if they sit in the stands.
Photographers are a threat to freedom, as we're denied freedom.
I tend to side against the "fleas" who snap celeb pictures in private settings. I find it distasteful and insulting. I would be furious if i were being stalked by photographers all day. But in public... fair is fair. And then theres the otherside of it that is complete bullshit, staged publicity... And its usually the photogs are the ones who are still blaimed, despite it being a staged pr stunt.
A publicly funded museum should be fair grounds to shoot. Cameras are not a threat to security. The museum is just concerned that you will photograph their art and post it on a website. They're afraid of losing patronage.
This whole terrorism shit has to stop. Its just so bad for the health of our country. It almost makes me think the government planned 9/11t, just to get more power over us. I know thats silly but... it sure does seem like the government loves to take away our freedoms.
Macworld is now reporting this...
http://www.macworld.com/article/134923/2008/08/iphonedebug.html#commentsjump
I appreciate your response, and the tone. Im all for talking about the issue.
I'm curious as to what your user habits are with the iphone. This will help me, and others perhaps understand where we differ in experiences. To answer your question, the problem many of us are having, is that it can not reboot at all. The phone stops working in every aspect and gets stuck at the apple logo. This renders the phone useless while away from home. The only solution is to restore the phone at home, on the computer you have itunes installed on. This is a pretty lengthy process, 2 hours at least. Often if you restore from a back up, it will take 3 hours or more. The worst part is that backing up the phone takes about 2 to 3 hours as well, so many are canceling the backup process when they sync their phone.
This comes to my question for you. The long back up and restore times are due to apps, and the number of them. For example a lot of apps are 300KB, and they can take 5 to 10 minutes to install each. App's like Texas Hold em from Apple, which are 128MB, take longer. The more apps you have, the longer it takes obviously.
My question to you is, how many applications do you have installed? There is a theory that the more apps you have, the more likely this serious problem will occur. Many of us are finding that specific steps will cause this problem. If you want, you can try them. However this again may be related to some kind of uninstall/install corruption that is occurring when a large number of apps are installed.
So if you have a few apps, then perhaps you may not see it. I can personally, and i will speak for others in the thread, that if you baby the phone, and tip toe around the problem, you can avoid it. However its not completely avoidable because in order to avoid it, you kind of need to use the phone differently than intended. For example, not installing apps through the app store on the phone and never uninstalling an app through the phone itself.
One specific set of steps that i've found cause this problem is to go to do the following:
Do the following on the iPhone itself. (not on a pc/mac itunes)
- Launch App Store (on iphone)
- Install an application (Pick any free application)
(The icon now appears on your iphone desktop, and it should be showing the install progress bar)
-As it is downloading (progress bar still moving), launch the app store again.
(At this point the Apps store should launch, but hang at some point)
The iphone will freeze, and you will be forced to reboot it. However the iphone never reboots. It should be dead at this point.
Now with these steps i've managed to cause the problem 3 times. You can see that this is a kind of "multitask" workflow. The iphone doesnt multitask well. So this isnt something you generally do, but you could do it in a hurry, by mistake or just simply not knowing. Now i'll be the first to say that it may not trigger the bug everytime, but other "multitasking" like user inputs while installing an app can trigger this serious problem.
This problem is not specific to this process, but this is a way to simply see the situation. This entire "Apple logo of death" problem is related to apps, the installation, removal, and serious hard app crashes. Apps crash every so, but sometimes they'll go down hard and take the phone with it.
Now to give you an example... Today i had to restore. This isnt bullshit, i wouldnt waste my time writing this if it were. It is a frustrating situation and i want it resolved. Anyways, today i was installing an app. I launched the apps store on the iphone, downloaded an app on the iphone, and installed it. During the isntall process, it froze. I had not tried to force any kind of multi task. I let the phone sit and do its thing. The iphone never booted up again.
I had to restore it. That took 3 hours today this morning. I actually took a nap while it did.
Now i've had the reverse. I've installed an app through the iphone app store... (Again none of this is th
We're a bunch of stupid bitches. America is a fuck fest of bullshit. Some of us US citizens do hope the world can see beyond the Government/Corporate dictatorship we live under. Some of us Americans do still believe in Freedom at all cost. Its a shame our govenrment exists to control our citizens like the the consumer cattle that we are... but what choice do we have? Our election system is broken, our political system is rigged, and there is a mountain of bullshit in between it all, acting as the glue that keeps the great wall standing tall.
We're fucked. Eat it and weep.
Look into George Carlin's last HBO special where he simply tells it like it is... his final home run... a perfect gift to us stupid fucking americans.
Blog away. There is no "fair and balanced" world. If someone feels their opinions aren't represented, shouldn't they get off their ass and represent themselves? We're all a bunch of lazy babies. We deserve this mess we call a country.
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/08/07/white-apple-logo-screen-of-death-stops-iphones-in-their-tracks/
More for your reading enjoyment.
Its behavior like what? Try reading the entire thread. Oh i'm sorry, am we all supposed to enjoy our iphones that become useless on the road? The multiple silver apple logo's of death that prevent us from calling, receiving calls... and making 911 calls? The same fucking problem that that SHUTS down our phone... a phone that we are still paying for service for?
Ok sir. Salute the flag and shut up... I get it...
We'll all keep paying our monthly contracts, while our phones dont work. That makes perfect sense doesnt it? Thank you for your wisdom.