It depends on the drive. Most drives should be able to read the media. However, if the new DVD's require a diffrent timing to write them at the fast 4x speed, then older DVD drives might not be able to replicate that sort of setting, thus being unable to read them.
Its like the 90 minuite CDs that you can get (and using Overburn on a 80 min cd, you can make them as well), only drives which allow you to move the laser to the edge of the disk can use them, and there are quite a few drives out there with firmware that prevents the laser from going that far out, thus making it impossible to use those disks.
Hopefully someone will make a damn standerd out of it and have done, its quite annoying having to think about DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW, DVD-RW, DVD-RAM, and what drives can take them.
We also musn't forget the conditons of winning, that the three people who go up in the first flight must do it again in three weeks from the sucessfull landing.
With the results and proof that nothing has knocked SSO out of the contest, I do think that is perfectly possible for them to do this.
I view it as Real being worse. At least you can choose not to use Windows Media Player, over, say WinAmp due to the new settings avalible in XP, but Real just kills your system by installing pure crap and spyware, as well as taking over all media extensions, even if you try tell it not to.
While being related to that, you could also say the child could be dyspraxic and dyslexic, as I am.
In what has been described in the blurb, I see what I was when I joined year 7 at my UK school.
The best way I coped with social situations was literlly to relate them to computer programming. Each individual is an object, they have the same properties, but diffrent values. The best way to socialise with one another is to exchange the diffrent values you have and try to find similar ones. When you do, its best to follow the similar ones, and thus you can become friends with them. If they have diffrent values but express intrest in the ones you have, you could show them about that value. Thus you have also made a friend through diffrences. I still find it hard to socialise with girls, however, with time comes perfection, as I currently have a girlfriend. You need to, without making them feel unwanted or put down by suggestions, make them think a bit about their outwards apperence. Hand them a comb in the morning, and make a small joke about why to use it. (E.g. better look snappy, you never know who might walk through the door - or something similar without the cheeseness).
Do get them tested for all three, both of my points, and the parent posters point, as early diagnosis is very helpfull.
You do have to wait for it to be deliverd (its _free_ ), but it has the latest patches on one CD. Just re-install, and then run the patches from the CD before going online, grab a good firewall & virus scanner, and then do whatever.
>>You started out talking about electron guns not working except in a vaccume [sic]. Now are you REALLY going to claim that SDI satellites need to be higher than 10000km above the earth's surface?
You really are starting to take the piss here. You post as an AC so that you can't be tangably argued.
The quote above from your post shows how stupid you really are. the points are linked. Since it would be inaffective if particles of the atmosphere got in the way, a SDI satellite would have to be 10,000km away, which is _exactly_ why they had difficulty building one.
>>You clown.
Sign in and call me that. Please.
>>"Neo Thermic", if that IS your REAL name!! As far as you need to know, it is.
>>Right then, do the maths, and work out a ballistic trajectory that will get a missile more than 5500km, without leaving the atmosphere.
Rather than maths, lets look at facts.
from this page: http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/comments/c439.htm (look for section 4) " A typical ICBM gets about 500 to 1000 miles above the ground at the highest point of its trajectory."
Now, lets see what I said, an ICBM doesn't have to go out the _atmosphere_...
From this page: http://daac.gsfc.nasa.gov/CAMPAIGN_DOCS/ATM_CHEM/a tmospheric_structure.html
" The exosphere is the outermost region of the Earth's atmosphere. Within the exosphere, atoms follow ballistic trajectories and rarely undergo collisions because the density of atoms in this region is so low. The exosphere begins at approximately 500 km and extends outward until it transitions with interplanetary space (at roughly 10,000 km)."
[Just incase you need to know: 1000 miles = 1609.344km; 10,000km = 6213.712 miles (3dp for both)]
The exosphere, which is part of Earth's _atmosphere_ extends HIGHER than an ICBM's launch max height. So therefore, I can conclude that my original statment was correct.
If you feel like doing the maths, by all means, do so, but you are going to have to show me that the ICBM leaves the exosphere (yes, part of our atmosphere).
You must remember that an objects mass is increased with speed...
The whole point of an electron gun is to use it like a particle accellrator, thus we end up with electrons moving at near light speeds, and thus enough of them generate enough knetic engergy.
>> If this worked, why aren't asteroids blown out of the system by solar flares, coronal mass ejections, etc?
They are. However, you must remember that these events are not spcifically directed at our astorid in question. So therefor its not going to be as concentrated as using an electron gun. You also must remember that it doesn't take much displacement to change an orbit, enough displacement over a long time will produce results.
However, this is all very futile when compaired to the better idea, which is to send out a nuke, with a specific payload to explode, proximity based, on one side of the astroid, thus giving it a push; there is a formula IIRC for working out the yield needed at certian distances.
>>Even IF we had a point defense mechanism... unless we vaporize the rock, or reduce it to very small (inches) pieces, we'll have just created an intergalactic shotgun...
At a good enough range though, this would be quite ideal. A shotgun at close range is deadly, but trying to kill someone a mile away with one is quite difficult at best.
>>How would an electron gun produce any significant kinetic change in the rock?
You are transfering energy via the electrons. Given enough of them, and a relitivly small amount of time, it can impart enough kinetic engergy to do what is required.
I know you are trolling, but I'll bite because people might get the wrong idea from your post.
>>If it didn't go out of the atmosphere, it either wouldn't be "inter-continental", or it wouldn't be "ballistic". Duh.
On the contary, and ICBM is defined as a abbrevation; intercontinental ballistic missile: a missile with a range greater than 5500 km
Now, where in that does it say it _has_ to go out the atmosphere? And to say its not ballistic shows how stupid you are, because balistic has nothing to do with it leaving the atmostphere or not.
Ballistic is defined as denoting or relating to the flight of projectiles after power has been cut off, moving under their own momentum and the external forces of gravity and air resistance.
>>At worst, it would do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and the asteroid would still hit.
But you see, if we don't try anything, then its going to hit, so trying anything is better than trying nothing...
>> Most all missle defense proposals depend on punching a hole in an ICBM by heating it.
And how do you think they were planning on doing that? Using a hairdryer?
The original idea was to use an electron gun. You see, the basic priciple of any weapon is transfering energy, and if you get enough of it at a point, it does damage. Intrestingly enough, so would a stream of electrons.
However, to use an electron gun, you have to have a vaccume. If the ICBM was launched, but didn't go out of the atmosphere, then it couldn't be hit.
In theory, if we had this electron gun in space, we could aim it at our astroid that might hit us; we should in theory be able to give it enough energy to move it off course at best, break it into something far less dangerous at worse.
Wow, A story thats made my night, just before I go to sleep!
Now, all I need to wake up to is a headline along the lines of: "SCO Daryl arrested over linux copyright claims", and I will consider buying a lottery ticket, as good things come in three...
Only the source torrent, people who download from it are only anonymous if there are no logs kept, and even then, due to the way that it works, I doubt that it could be possible.
Plus the countless univserity students who use them to do computer graphics, games programming, and games design?
>>Every review I've ever seen complains about eye strain happening very quickly.
On the old models, yes, and only if you had a refresh rate of under 120hz (because at 120hz, its 60hz per eye)
I've actualy used these glasses for gameing, some of my sessions lasting for 5 hours, and never enounterd eye strain or dizzyness or any other ill fated side effect that people make up about this technology.
>>If you did a little research you might find a 3D system that works from LCDs.
Oh, ok, so I trundel down to Dimension Technologies with the $70 that the glasses cost me to go and get a 15 inch 3D LCD... oh wait, no, my $70 is just a bit short of the asking price of $1,700... oops...
Why use the glasses? they are cheap. A rough calculation shows that the glasses are 24.3 times cheaper than one 3D LCD monitor, and in one of the courses listed above, the univeristies would rather choose 24 glasses than 1 LCD...
A thing of the past? Likley, not! What happens if I need the physical refresh rate that a CRT provides?
If I want to use my E-Dimensional glasses, I can't go and use LCD/TFT/Flat Screens because they lack a refresh rate, which is what these glasses work off of.
CRT will never bite the dust until someone gets these type of things to work from a LCD/TFT/Flat screen monitor, which currently isn't going to happen.
Ohh, right, good eyes...
thats the effect of having the units in m in the equation and forgetting that your challenge has been set at 1000km
g=GM/r^2
= 6.7 * 10^-11 N m^2 kg^-2 * 6.0 * 10^24 kg/(7.4 * 10^6)^2
= 7.341 N kg^-1
>> If you have a calculator, determine the force from gravity applied to a human on earth. Then, calculate again from 1,000 km away. It's a small difference.
Sure! I'm Game!
Now, if a body of mass m is a distance r from the center of the earth, you know that the weight of the body is F given by the formula F=GmM/r^2 The gravitaional field strength is g = F/m = (GmM/r^2)/m = GM/r^2
(With me sofar?)
g=GM/r^2
= 6.7 * 10^-11 N m^2 kg^-2 * 6.0 * 10^24 kg/(6.4 * 10^6)^2
= 9.814 N kg^-1
Notice! We get a value which is gravity at earths surface...
Ok, so with the poster above... lets add on our 1,000 km...
g=GM/r^2
= 6.7 * 10^-11 N m^2 kg^-2 * 6.0 * 10^24 kg/(6.401 * 10^6)^2
= 9.811 N kg^-1
Yes, we lost all of 0.001 N kg^-1... our poster above is right.
So, how can they make this worth while? Easy. Make them do a larger orbit, so that they are twice the distance r from the earth (notice above, you have to measure from the center of the earth...)
So, lets see how much N kg-1 our mice would have if they were twice as far out...
g=GM/r^2
= 6.7 * 10^-11 N m^2 kg^-2 * 6.0 * 10^24 kg/(12.8 * 10^6)^2
= 2.453 N kg^-1
Its a bad opinion to say that a Gov. of any type or description should control the web. Look at china, where the Gov. tries to control what is read and seen on the net. What has it done? Its only created the need to bypass what prevents them from doing so.
If you give the control to a Gov. body, weather it be from any of the offical 192 countries (192? i think its about that many...) in the world, you destroy the point of the web, which is what it is now, its avaiable to all those who can find it.
Its not restricted, confied, censored, or banned to the masses of users (unless you happen to be under control of a admin or netnanny style software). And it should stay that way.
Slashdot Mirror
It depends on the drive. Most drives should be able to read the media. However, if the new DVD's require a diffrent timing to write them at the fast 4x speed, then older DVD drives might not be able to replicate that sort of setting, thus being unable to read them.
Its like the 90 minuite CDs that you can get (and using Overburn on a 80 min cd, you can make them as well), only drives which allow you to move the laser to the edge of the disk can use them, and there are quite a few drives out there with firmware that prevents the laser from going that far out, thus making it impossible to use those disks.
Hopefully someone will make a damn standerd out of it and have done, its quite annoying having to think about DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW, DVD-RW, DVD-RAM, and what drives can take them.
NeoThermic
We also musn't forget the conditons of winning, that the three people who go up in the first flight must do it again in three weeks from the sucessfull landing.
With the results and proof that nothing has knocked SSO out of the contest, I do think that is perfectly possible for them to do this.
NeoThermic
'the article compares it to a car radiator.'
And how many times have you re-filled (or your garage during an MOT) your radiator fluid?
I suspect that there might be a need to refill it after a long time...
NeoThermic
I view it as Real being worse. At least you can choose not to use Windows Media Player, over, say WinAmp due to the new settings avalible in XP, but Real just kills your system by installing pure crap and spyware, as well as taking over all media extensions, even if you try tell it not to.
NeoThermic
While being related to that, you could also say the child could be dyspraxic and dyslexic, as I am.
In what has been described in the blurb, I see what I was when I joined year 7 at my UK school.
The best way I coped with social situations was literlly to relate them to computer programming. Each individual is an object, they have the same properties, but diffrent values.
The best way to socialise with one another is to exchange the diffrent values you have and try to find similar ones. When you do, its best to follow the similar ones, and thus you can become friends with them.
If they have diffrent values but express intrest in the ones you have, you could show them about that value. Thus you have also made a friend through diffrences.
I still find it hard to socialise with girls, however, with time comes perfection, as I currently have a girlfriend.
You need to, without making them feel unwanted or put down by suggestions, make them think a bit about their outwards apperence. Hand them a comb in the morning, and make a small joke about why to use it. (E.g. better look snappy, you never know who might walk through the door - or something similar without the cheeseness).
Do get them tested for all three, both of my points, and the parent posters point, as early diagnosis is very helpfull.
Good Luck
NeoThermic
>> so that on a new install, all I would need to do is get a CD (burn one even) that contains the above three files.
And they listen...
Microsoft Secuirty Patch CD
You do have to wait for it to be deliverd (its _free_ ), but it has the latest patches on one CD. Just re-install, and then run the patches from the CD before going online, grab a good firewall & virus scanner, and then do whatever.
NeoThermic
Neo:" But the Oracle said..."
Morphious:" Only what you wanted to hear. Someday you will see that there is a diffrence between booting XP[reloaded], and using it."
NeoThermic
>>You started out talking about electron guns not working except in a vaccume [sic]. Now are you REALLY going to claim that SDI satellites need to be higher than 10000km above the earth's surface?
You really are starting to take the piss here. You post as an AC so that you can't be tangably argued.
The quote above from your post shows how stupid you really are. the points are linked. Since it would be inaffective if particles of the atmosphere got in the way, a SDI satellite would have to be 10,000km away, which is _exactly_ why they had difficulty building one.
>>You clown.
Sign in and call me that. Please.
>>"Neo Thermic", if that IS your REAL name!!
As far as you need to know, it is.
NeoThermic
>>Right then, do the maths, and work out a ballistic trajectory that will get a missile more than 5500km, without leaving the atmosphere.
a tmospheric_structure.html
Rather than maths, lets look at facts.
from this page: http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/comments/c439.htm
(look for section 4)
" A typical ICBM gets about 500 to 1000 miles above the ground at the highest point of its trajectory."
Now, lets see what I said, an ICBM doesn't have to go out the _atmosphere_...
From this page: http://daac.gsfc.nasa.gov/CAMPAIGN_DOCS/ATM_CHEM/
" The exosphere is the outermost region of the Earth's atmosphere. Within the exosphere, atoms follow ballistic trajectories and rarely undergo collisions because the density of atoms in this region is so low. The exosphere begins at approximately 500 km and extends outward until it transitions with interplanetary space (at roughly 10,000 km)."
[Just incase you need to know:
1000 miles = 1609.344km;
10,000km = 6213.712 miles (3dp for both)]
The exosphere, which is part of Earth's _atmosphere_ extends HIGHER than an ICBM's launch max height. So therefore, I can conclude that my original statment was correct.
If you feel like doing the maths, by all means, do so, but you are going to have to show me that the ICBM leaves the exosphere (yes, part of our atmosphere).
NeoThermic
You must remember that an objects mass is increased with speed...
The whole point of an electron gun is to use it like a particle accellrator, thus we end up with electrons moving at near light speeds, and thus enough of them generate enough knetic engergy.
>> If this worked, why aren't asteroids blown out of the system by solar flares, coronal mass ejections, etc?
They are. However, you must remember that these events are not spcifically directed at our astorid in question. So therefor its not going to be as concentrated as using an electron gun. You also must remember that it doesn't take much displacement to change an orbit, enough displacement over a long time will produce results.
However, this is all very futile when compaired to the better idea, which is to send out a nuke, with a specific payload to explode, proximity based, on one side of the astroid, thus giving it a push; there is a formula IIRC for working out the yield needed at certian distances.
NeoThermic
>>Even IF we had a point defense mechanism... unless we vaporize the rock, or reduce it to very small (inches) pieces, we'll have just created an intergalactic shotgun...
At a good enough range though, this would be quite ideal. A shotgun at close range is deadly, but trying to kill someone a mile away with one is quite difficult at best.
>>How would an electron gun produce any significant kinetic change in the rock?
You are transfering energy via the electrons. Given enough of them, and a relitivly small amount of time, it can impart enough kinetic engergy to do what is required.
NeoThermic
I know you are trolling, but I'll bite because people might get the wrong idea from your post.
>>If it didn't go out of the atmosphere, it either wouldn't be "inter-continental", or it wouldn't be "ballistic". Duh.
On the contary, and ICBM is defined as a abbrevation; intercontinental ballistic missile: a missile with a range greater than 5500 km
Now, where in that does it say it _has_ to go out the atmosphere? And to say its not ballistic shows how stupid you are, because balistic has nothing to do with it leaving the atmostphere or not.
Ballistic is defined as denoting or relating to the flight of projectiles after power has been cut off, moving under their own momentum and the external forces of gravity and air resistance.
>>At worst, it would do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and the asteroid would still hit.
But you see, if we don't try anything, then its going to hit, so trying anything is better than trying nothing...
NeoThermic
>> Most all missle defense proposals depend on punching a hole in an ICBM by heating it.
And how do you think they were planning on doing that? Using a hairdryer?
The original idea was to use an electron gun. You see, the basic priciple of any weapon is transfering energy, and if you get enough of it at a point, it does damage. Intrestingly enough, so would a stream of electrons.
However, to use an electron gun, you have to have a vaccume. If the ICBM was launched, but didn't go out of the atmosphere, then it couldn't be hit.
In theory, if we had this electron gun in space, we could aim it at our astroid that might hit us; we should in theory be able to give it enough energy to move it off course at best, break it into something far less dangerous at worse.
NeoThermic
Could it be possible that their webserver is also a collection of the said pens?
Ironic if so...
NeoThermic
Wow, A story thats made my night, just before I go to sleep!
Now, all I need to wake up to is a headline along the lines of: "SCO Daryl arrested over linux copyright claims", and I will consider buying a lottery ticket, as good things come in three...
NeoThermic
>> Can they track torrents?
Only the source torrent, people who download from it are only anonymous if there are no logs kept, and even then, due to the way that it works, I doubt that it could be possible.
Correct me if I'm wrong there...
NeoThermic
>>Microsoft is, naturally, downplaying its impact
Of couse they are. They don't want to admit that its 203MB of files, they will just say its a small fragment.
Makes me wonder about all the weird e-mail files in the zip though...
NeoThermic
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>>all six of the people that use those glasses?
Plus the countless univserity students who use them to do computer graphics, games programming, and games design?
>>Every review I've ever seen complains about eye strain happening very quickly.
On the old models, yes, and only if you had a refresh rate of under 120hz (because at 120hz, its 60hz per eye)
I've actualy used these glasses for gameing, some of my sessions lasting for 5 hours, and never enounterd eye strain or dizzyness or any other ill fated side effect that people make up about this technology.
>>If you did a little research you might find a 3D system that works from LCDs.
Oh, ok, so I trundel down to Dimension Technologies with the $70 that the glasses cost me to go and get a 15 inch 3D LCD... oh wait, no, my $70 is just a bit short of the asking price of $1,700... oops...
Why use the glasses? they are cheap. A rough calculation shows that the glasses are 24.3 times cheaper than one 3D LCD monitor, and in one of the courses listed above, the univeristies would rather choose 24 glasses than 1 LCD...
NeoThermic
>> CRT's are a thing of the past now.
A thing of the past? Likley, not! What happens if I need the physical refresh rate that a CRT provides?
If I want to use my E-Dimensional glasses, I can't go and use LCD/TFT/Flat Screens because they lack a refresh rate, which is what these glasses work off of.
CRT will never bite the dust until someone gets these type of things to work from a LCD/TFT/Flat screen monitor, which currently isn't going to happen.
NeoThermic
Ohh, right, good eyes...
thats the effect of having the units in m in the equation and forgetting that your challenge has been set at 1000km
g=GM/r^2
= 6.7 * 10^-11 N m^2 kg^-2 * 6.0 * 10^24 kg/(7.4 * 10^6)^2
= 7.341 N kg^-1
So a diffrence of 2.473 N kg^-1
NeoThermic
>>Yes, we lost all of 0.001 N kg^-1... our poster above is right.
No, let me open my eyes... we lost 0.003 N kg^-1
NeoThermic
>> If you have a calculator, determine the force from gravity applied to a human on earth. Then, calculate again from 1,000 km away. It's a small difference.
...
Sure! I'm Game!
Now, if a body of mass m is a distance r from the center of the earth, you know that the weight of the body is F given by the formula F=GmM/r^2 The gravitaional field strength is g = F/m = (GmM/r^2)/m = GM/r^2
(With me sofar?)
g=GM/r^2
= 6.7 * 10^-11 N m^2 kg^-2 * 6.0 * 10^24 kg/(6.4 * 10^6)^2
= 9.814 N kg^-1
Notice! We get a value which is gravity at earths surface...
Ok, so with the poster above... lets add on our 1,000 km
g=GM/r^2
= 6.7 * 10^-11 N m^2 kg^-2 * 6.0 * 10^24 kg/(6.401 * 10^6)^2
= 9.811 N kg^-1
Yes, we lost all of 0.001 N kg^-1... our poster above is right.
So, how can they make this worth while? Easy. Make them do a larger orbit, so that they are twice the distance r from the earth (notice above, you have to measure from the center of the earth...)
So, lets see how much N kg-1 our mice would have if they were twice as far out...
g=GM/r^2
= 6.7 * 10^-11 N m^2 kg^-2 * 6.0 * 10^24 kg/(12.8 * 10^6)^2
= 2.453 N kg^-1
Anyway, enough maths...
NeoThermic
>>If it were up to me, i'd give it to a UN body.
And why do you think the UN body would do better?
Its a bad opinion to say that a Gov. of any type or description should control the web. Look at china, where the Gov. tries to control what is read and seen on the net. What has it done? Its only created the need to bypass what prevents them from doing so.
If you give the control to a Gov. body, weather it be from any of the offical 192 countries (192? i think its about that many...) in the world, you destroy the point of the web, which is what it is now, its avaiable to all those who can find it.
Its not restricted, confied, censored, or banned to the masses of users (unless you happen to be under control of a admin or netnanny style software). And it should stay that way.
NeoThermic
This modfied photograph shows the B52 bomber with the hypersonic 'baby' plane arrowed and circled.
NeoThermic