When spamcop and various other anti-spam organisations started making serious inroads into getting spamvertised sites shut down last year, spammers started executing DOS attacks against the various anti-spam servers.
There is therefore demonstrably a second motivation for spammers - defense of the continued "usefulness" of spamming.
If spammers think this scheme has a chance of succeeding, they will attempt to undermine it - by the use of such tactics as these Joe-Jobs, and others we haven't thought of yet - until such time as the scheme is abandoned. If there isn't a defense against this in the scheme, it will probably fail almost immediately. Hence it's a valid question for those interested in seeing the scheme succeed.
If T sets the return address to J, then that will also be a joe job, but that is not relevant here.
That only makes it a Joe Job if the trail in the headers gives a convincing impression that J sent the mail, and that the purpose of sending the mail is to inconvenience "J" by getting him/her accused of sending spam.
Making spam look as though it benefits someone who happens not to be the sender is the essence of a Joe Job, not the fact that a fake return address is supplied (since a fake return address is standard in spam nowadays).
I had this done as a child. I don't know whether it was necessary or not, but I wore an eyepatch for a while just after I started school when someone realised I couldn't see properly.
I guess it worked. I now have approximately equally crappy vision in either eye.
I don't know whether it's a good indicator for valuable ideas, but it is probably a good indicator for differing / interesting ideas. I think humans are threatened when their world view must change, and it's easier to ridicule than think.
Still doesn't mean they're good ideas, of course...
The point with hibernation is that the body shuts down, probably even more so than with a general anaesthetic, so I don't see a gain to be made here. But it's an interesting idea nonetheless.
Actually, I suspect the problem with surgery is that the body fighting back always involves pain as part of the process, so it may not be solvable.
I would have thought the point would be to prevent the woman from sleeping with someone else, and then getting the first man to help with the raising of the child that isn't actually his.
Here's why I think the movies are impressive: they are an adaptation of a quite difficult set of books, done in a style that stayed astonishingly close to the books, and was still a decent set of movies for those who didn't know & love the books.
I'm not sure that I can think of any other movie that achieved that; certain not for such difficult material.
After reading the Silmarillion, I have a hard time re-reading LOTR. It's just not as epic in scope. For example, Sauron isn't even half as impressive as Morgoth. The long lives of the elves make the grander scale of time in the Silmarillion possible.
It made the whole world be about the flight of the elves to the West, and the fall of Numenor. Neither of those featured much in LOTR. They were there, but they weren't that important to the tale. Knowing the history of Aragorn's family, he's that much more significant a character, but not much is made of that.
I keep thinking I should get hold of the lost / unfinished tales, but I don't like Christopher's style as much in the other works of his that I've seen.
Asimov did not write about robots running amok. His stories were about subtle interactions between the Laws, or unusual circumstances which create conficts between the Laws, not about a Matrix-scale robot revolt.
I disagree. Asimov's 'robot' stories were almost exclusively about people reacting to robots. Like most decent sci-fi, it's actually about exploring the nature of humanity using the tool of unfamiliar situations.
It's pretty clear that the movie isn't the least Asimovian, though. I agree with the poster who said something about Hollywood's attempt to impart angular momentum to Isac Asimovs mortal remains.
The theory has some resonance for me. I'm remembering my reaction to the Final Fantasy movie vs my reaction to something like Toy Story or Shrek, or something that isn't animated.
Final Fantasy was closer to realistic animation than Shrek was, but I was more comfortable watching Shrek. Every so often, the Final Fantasy animation would slap me around the face with something that jarred, whereas I had dropped that kind of expectation while watching Shrek.
Animation isn't the same as a realistic robot, but I think the principle may carry over into anything artifical posing as something real - the closer it gets, the more consistent it must be, or it just looks wrong.
Holding down CTRL when clicking the link generally allows it to open in a new window. I think. It's been a while. I know there's a key; I just don't know for sure that it's CTRl.
This post illustrates the point that no animal aside from humans will ever be classed as "self-aware". That's because humans will always define "self-awareness" as "that property which distinguishes humans from other animals". That's the only distinction that humans find valuable. It gives us the "right" to do whatever we want to anything that's not human, just because it's not self-aware.
Maybe someday we'll grow out of that, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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There is therefore demonstrably a second motivation for spammers - defense of the continued "usefulness" of spamming.
If spammers think this scheme has a chance of succeeding, they will attempt to undermine it - by the use of such tactics as these Joe-Jobs, and others we haven't thought of yet - until such time as the scheme is abandoned. If there isn't a defense against this in the scheme, it will probably fail almost immediately. Hence it's a valid question for those interested in seeing the scheme succeed.
Making spam look as though it benefits someone who happens not to be the sender is the essence of a Joe Job, not the fact that a fake return address is supplied (since a fake return address is standard in spam nowadays).
I had this done as a child. I don't know whether it was necessary or not, but I wore an eyepatch for a while just after I started school when someone realised I couldn't see properly.
I guess it worked. I now have approximately equally crappy vision in either eye.
Still doesn't mean they're good ideas, of course...
Actually, I suspect the problem with surgery is that the body fighting back always involves pain as part of the process, so it may not be solvable.
I would have thought the point would be to prevent the woman from sleeping with someone else, and then getting the first man to help with the raising of the child that isn't actually his.
I'm not sure that I can think of any other movie that achieved that; certain not for such difficult material.
HTH explain the IYO extreme reactions of fans.
It made the whole world be about the flight of the elves to the West, and the fall of Numenor. Neither of those featured much in LOTR. They were there, but they weren't that important to the tale. Knowing the history of Aragorn's family, he's that much more significant a character, but not much is made of that.
I keep thinking I should get hold of the lost / unfinished tales, but I don't like Christopher's style as much in the other works of his that I've seen.
This project really grabs my imagination. I wish I had a GPS so I could visit some of the NZ ones.
This project is clearly an entirely appropriate use of resources, as is the idea of having a space program, if you're a genuine nerd.
(BTW, unless she was a sheep, you probably should have said "whom I dated", not "which I dated". Was she a sheep?)
(OTOH, maybe he's happier as he is. There's no way of knowing.)
It's pretty clear that the movie isn't the least Asimovian, though. I agree with the poster who said something about Hollywood's attempt to impart angular momentum to Isac Asimovs mortal remains.
No. Because it's not. It contains characters with the same names as Asimov's, but the resemblence ends there, I assure you.
Dammit! I just posted, so I can't mod you funny.
Final Fantasy was closer to realistic animation than Shrek was, but I was more comfortable watching Shrek. Every so often, the Final Fantasy animation would slap me around the face with something that jarred, whereas I had dropped that kind of expectation while watching Shrek.
Animation isn't the same as a realistic robot, but I think the principle may carry over into anything artifical posing as something real - the closer it gets, the more consistent it must be, or it just looks wrong.
At least that'll help 'm get 's career started...
The moon doesn't rotate with respect to the Earth, which is the significant point. The same face always points to Earth.
The women belonged to the tribe - as did the men & children. No sexism is necessary.
I used to drink Coke exclusively, and I can assure you that this isn't true.
Is that the guy from my sig?
Alelrgies to eggs aren't uncommon. I wonder what effect that would have on the process?
Holding down CTRL when clicking the link generally allows it to open in a new window. I think. It's been a while. I know there's a key; I just don't know for sure that it's CTRl.
That's pretty convincing proof of intelligence, but
>he hates my Jar Jar doll
this clinches it.
You have an awesome dog. Has he trained any other dogs?
Maybe someday we'll grow out of that, but I'm not going to hold my breath.