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The heat spreader itself would not be that great, simply because the thermal characteristics of one are not great. Yes, in that test, the intel chips "survived" but running prime95 will not show all the damage done. Weakening gates may not show up for a few weeks, but it can still cause electron migration and improper switching. Damage to the cache may not be apparent at all for a while if the subset of information does not reach the areas of cache that are damaged. That test would make sure that at the TIME the ALU and FPU were functioning to within tolerances of the program and that the registers were still operational.
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Actually, I did not miss that part. However, you went from "catch on fire and burn things" to "the chip fried". While a thermal on die sensor may help save the machine, the chances of there being lasting damage before the sensor even detects it are high.
I actually know quite a bit about the technology at hand. I also know enough that you believe whatever you want. Tom's test was bogus. It is the same as removing the radiator and running an engine at 5000rpm and waiting for it to seize. Intel's chips did not "Fry" but that does not mean they were intact internally. I doubt you have the equipment to validate that.
AMD DID eventually add on on die thermal sensor. This market driven. However, this is to prevent a CPU from overheating when a fan WERE to die. Removal of a heatsink can cause the CPU to heat up so rapidly as to not even allow the thermal sensor to get an accurate reading before it itself is compromised.
The test was bogus for the very thought that a removed heatsink on a CPU should have a CPU that still works perfectly. It will in nearly every case NOT do that. The thermal dissipation on the surface of that die is too damn small for the amount of heat leaked through "nano" sized transistor/gate state switch leakage.
This is tantamount to you sticking your hand into a warmed oven without any protection and having me turn off the oven and saying "Touch the edges, its OK"
Just how much heat do you think will accumulate on a small surface that already SUSTAINS >40C under ideal circumstances with 220G of high surface area copper (or some less aluminum) with a fan helping cool the heatsink material so that it can continue to absorb, radiate and dissipate heat?
200C would not be out of touch within the first second.
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losing the fan is not the same as heatsink removal. ANYbody who expects a chip to be functional w/o issues after the fact of a loss of all thermal heatsink connectivity is fooling themselves.
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It was a bullshit test and everybody who had any knowledge about it agreed. The heatsink was removed. It would not "catch fire" it would burn itself out.
I have an idea, remove all the coolant from an auto radiator and run the engine at 5000 rpm. OH NOES, it died.
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Oh yes, the news articles about all the fires caused by.... oh wait, only Tomshardware with their fake test showed that anything similar to that was possible
Btw, did you know that the battery issues on laptops burning was almost exclusively intel platforms?
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It is not ALL about the chipset. Intel is not absolved of wrongdoings with anything and everything from the Pentium 90 div bug, to the Penium 3 >1Ghz issues with instability that had to be forced on them (recall) due to errors and even reviewers with cherry picked samples having problems. They even had issues with their Itanium chips where the 900Mhz had to be downclocked to 800Mhz in some instances due to errors generated. All I meant to say was that "intel on intel" is no guarantee of stability
That being said, I love their NICs
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Just because VIA had/has bad chipsets does not absolve intel of their share of problems (i820) and others.
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Not entirely true. There have been some atrocious intel chipsets. What you are discussing is a mentality and supposition that is not entirely rooted in fact, but in opinion.
Analogy problem detected. The USB Consortium has made all 1.1 and higher standard ports "2.0" but with different "Features" like "Hi Speed" and "Full Speed" etc. They muddied the waters intentionally. Not all 2.0 devices get the 480 theoretical megabits per second that you will never get because of how CPU driven USB is.
Incorrect. If you are purchasing a LICENSE to use the software (you don't OWN the software) then you must adhere to the terms held within that license. Otherwise, you are in breach of the license and should cease to use that software as you are not complying with the terms of temporary transfer of license. If we were talking about a vase, you would be right. However, when dealing with "imaginary" things like licenses and contractual obligation, not so.
However that license is only geared towards a specific set of users. If you do not fall into the license type that can use a student copy, you are still committing copyright infringement.
It is Euro Ignorance, but you are forgiven. Our states are roughly the size of your countries. The people are also disparate and have different wants, needs and desires. Keeping it local allows it to A) fuck up fewer people's lives and be closer to what the people want. A long sweeping stroke will likely paint less precisely.
Your problem is assuming that similar = same. This is not about the North vs the South. This is more like VT and NH having similar interests in logging/maple syrup and setting up conditions for business that respect their interests. Your inability to distance yourself from creating false assumptions is what weakens your argument.
Depends on the actual implications of each alliance and cross alliance. You assume everything now is as it was. I sure hope somebody ends slavery and we get rid of Lincoln......
This is not "The Federal Gov't" but rather consortiums of like minded states in smaller groups that have much in common. The NY/NJ/PA alliance may be different from the FL/GA/AL alliance, get it?
Low population states don't have the same sway. Nothing is stopping states from "Talking" to one another and discussing a solution that could work for all involved
I guess states like California can't then change the status of emissions in automobiles..... The states CAN regulate the SALE of those items and trust me, rather than lose the customers of Florida (and other states who think it is a good idea) they will capitulate or form some agreement that is amiable.
I suppose in your world states and local governments also ceased to exist? Otherwise, they could and should be responsible in your daily lives and the federal gov't should not.
This is bullshit, Taco. Ron Paul has every right to be up there. He beat Huckabee in several states. He beat McCain in others. Leaving him out is pure crap.
What you call "Greed" is a misunderstanding of the intent. The government should have no say in how I spend my money after I have spent my hard work earning it. I believe that in competitive markets, even localities competing for population and by extent, money, a healthy coexistence can be met. If I don't want my trash company decided for me, I should be able to choose. If I don't want my daughter to get a painful and ineffective shot to "Prevent Cervical Cancer" even though all it does is prevent SOME types of HPV variants, I should have that choice. After I earn that money, I can choose to give it to homeless shelters, aids research or the Moonies and Scientologists. It is my choice. I don't want to HAVE to pay for those who rely on their laziness and my work ethic. If they cannot do for themselves, Then I believe people should help. However, nobody should be forced, by penalty of prison or forfeiture of assets to do so.
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The heat spreader itself would not be that great, simply because the thermal characteristics of one are not great. Yes, in that test, the intel chips "survived" but running prime95 will not show all the damage done. Weakening gates may not show up for a few weeks, but it can still cause electron migration and improper switching. Damage to the cache may not be apparent at all for a while if the subset of information does not reach the areas of cache that are damaged. That test would make sure that at the TIME the ALU and FPU were functioning to within tolerances of the program and that the registers were still operational.
Actually, I did not miss that part. However, you went from "catch on fire and burn things" to "the chip fried". While a thermal on die sensor may help save the machine, the chances of there being lasting damage before the sensor even detects it are high. I actually know quite a bit about the technology at hand. I also know enough that you believe whatever you want. Tom's test was bogus. It is the same as removing the radiator and running an engine at 5000rpm and waiting for it to seize. Intel's chips did not "Fry" but that does not mean they were intact internally. I doubt you have the equipment to validate that. AMD DID eventually add on on die thermal sensor. This market driven. However, this is to prevent a CPU from overheating when a fan WERE to die. Removal of a heatsink can cause the CPU to heat up so rapidly as to not even allow the thermal sensor to get an accurate reading before it itself is compromised. The test was bogus for the very thought that a removed heatsink on a CPU should have a CPU that still works perfectly. It will in nearly every case NOT do that. The thermal dissipation on the surface of that die is too damn small for the amount of heat leaked through "nano" sized transistor/gate state switch leakage. This is tantamount to you sticking your hand into a warmed oven without any protection and having me turn off the oven and saying "Touch the edges, its OK" Just how much heat do you think will accumulate on a small surface that already SUSTAINS >40C under ideal circumstances with 220G of high surface area copper (or some less aluminum) with a fan helping cool the heatsink material so that it can continue to absorb, radiate and dissipate heat? 200C would not be out of touch within the first second.
losing the fan is not the same as heatsink removal. ANYbody who expects a chip to be functional w/o issues after the fact of a loss of all thermal heatsink connectivity is fooling themselves.
It was a bullshit test and everybody who had any knowledge about it agreed. The heatsink was removed. It would not "catch fire" it would burn itself out.
I have an idea, remove all the coolant from an auto radiator and run the engine at 5000 rpm. OH NOES, it died.
Oh yes, the news articles about all the fires caused by.... oh wait, only Tomshardware with their fake test showed that anything similar to that was possible
Btw, did you know that the battery issues on laptops burning was almost exclusively intel platforms?
It is not ALL about the chipset. Intel is not absolved of wrongdoings with anything and everything from the Pentium 90 div bug, to the Penium 3 >1Ghz issues with instability that had to be forced on them (recall) due to errors and even reviewers with cherry picked samples having problems. They even had issues with their Itanium chips where the 900Mhz had to be downclocked to 800Mhz in some instances due to errors generated. All I meant to say was that "intel on intel" is no guarantee of stability That being said, I love their NICs
Just because VIA had/has bad chipsets does not absolve intel of their share of problems (i820) and others.
Not entirely true. There have been some atrocious intel chipsets. What you are discussing is a mentality and supposition that is not entirely rooted in fact, but in opinion.
Why would you want to use an non-journal file-system like ext2 when ext3, reiser and JFS are available?
Sitting on broken chairs?
Somebody was going to say it....
I know it will kill the performance to some degree, but why not create a compatibility layer ala WINE for BEOS apps ? BINE perhaps?
Analogy problem detected. The USB Consortium has made all 1.1 and higher standard ports "2.0" but with different "Features" like "Hi Speed" and "Full Speed" etc. They muddied the waters intentionally. Not all 2.0 devices get the 480 theoretical megabits per second that you will never get because of how CPU driven USB is.
Incorrect. If you are purchasing a LICENSE to use the software (you don't OWN the software) then you must adhere to the terms held within that license. Otherwise, you are in breach of the license and should cease to use that software as you are not complying with the terms of temporary transfer of license.
If we were talking about a vase, you would be right. However, when dealing with "imaginary" things like licenses and contractual obligation, not so.
However that license is only geared towards a specific set of users. If you do not fall into the license type that can use a student copy, you are still committing copyright infringement.
I believe Kim Jung Il has a Myspace.......... Ooooh, he's in my extended network.
It is Euro Ignorance, but you are forgiven. Our states are roughly the size of your countries. The people are also disparate and have different wants, needs and desires. Keeping it local allows it to A) fuck up fewer people's lives and be closer to what the people want. A long sweeping stroke will likely paint less precisely.
Your problem is assuming that similar = same. This is not about the North vs the South. This is more like VT and NH having similar interests in logging/maple syrup and setting up conditions for business that respect their interests. Your inability to distance yourself from creating false assumptions is what weakens your argument.
Depends on the actual implications of each alliance and cross alliance. You assume everything now is as it was. I sure hope somebody ends slavery and we get rid of Lincoln......
This is not "The Federal Gov't" but rather consortiums of like minded states in smaller groups that have much in common. The NY/NJ/PA alliance may be different from the FL/GA/AL alliance, get it?
Low population states don't have the same sway. Nothing is stopping states from "Talking" to one another and discussing a solution that could work for all involved
I guess states like California can't then change the status of emissions in automobiles..... The states CAN regulate the SALE of those items and trust me, rather than lose the customers of Florida (and other states who think it is a good idea) they will capitulate or form some agreement that is amiable.
I suppose in your world states and local governments also ceased to exist? Otherwise, they could and should be responsible in your daily lives and the federal gov't should not.
This is bullshit, Taco. Ron Paul has every right to be up there. He beat Huckabee in several states. He beat McCain in others. Leaving him out is pure crap.
What you call "Greed" is a misunderstanding of the intent. The government should have no say in how I spend my money after I have spent my hard work earning it. I believe that in competitive markets, even localities competing for population and by extent, money, a healthy coexistence can be met. If I don't want my trash company decided for me, I should be able to choose. If I don't want my daughter to get a painful and ineffective shot to "Prevent Cervical Cancer" even though all it does is prevent SOME types of HPV variants, I should have that choice.
After I earn that money, I can choose to give it to homeless shelters, aids research or the Moonies and Scientologists. It is my choice. I don't want to HAVE to pay for those who rely on their laziness and my work ethic. If they cannot do for themselves, Then I believe people should help. However, nobody should be forced, by penalty of prison or forfeiture of assets to do so.