Mentor Graphics and Synopsys have been shipping me programs on CDR for a pretty long time now. Their programs are updated so often that its cheaper for them to burn it then get disks pressed. These programs are NOT cheap either. One faculty member told me that the licenses we have would cost over $1M US per seat if we were to buy it outright. Expensive CDRs hua:)
This is however the first time I have heard of this for audio distribution. Pretty good idea if ya ask me (which nobody has)
for anyone who is interested:
www.mentor.com
www.synopsys.com
I don't feel like making them links, so:P on you.
Quite true. I have yet to play with.11a yet. I got a dual band card so I can up grade my access point someday, but I have yet to get the money to do it:)
Ok, now put your calculators away here... I'm going to talk about how things look like and how they feel, not if a link can mathmaticly support bitrate X.
I've found that trying to stream anything worthwild over a.11b link is just too iffy. I often stream video files from my server to whereever I am sitting with the laptop. With the netgear card reporting a full speed connect at ~60% signal strength and 100% quality it is kind-of jerky at times. I know I'm pushing the limits of what that little wireless connect can do.
Now I can deal with it for now because I'm not expecting it to perform perfectly. However, what is going to happen when Joe Consumer picks one of these up, hooks in the wireless part and tries to stream his DVD rip collection and it gets.3FPS?
Answer: You get one very unhappy Joe Consumer.
I believe that people will expect this thing to do more then it can, and I doubt that sonic will be up front and tell people about this limitation.
Makes me think of a car dealer trying to sell a car for use on interstate highways but the car can only go 45MPH. Sure it works, but it isn't quite what you expected now is it?
Call me cynical, but: How much did the tuition increase to pay for this? For some reason, tuition wasn't mentioned... What's the rate of theft on campus? Now with tuition and "student fees", they can pay both a Mac and a Microsoft tax. Great. Any what does any of this have to do with receiving a higher education?
I can't say anything about the tuition increase (or lack thereof, I just don't know) but I did ask about theft etc too. (did I mention that my father is the VP behind this at St Leo?:)
Theft is low because the students are responsible for the laptop that is assigned to them.
I'm not totally sure what road you are trying to go down with the mac/ms tax comment so I'll just blow right by it and go onto the last comment you made. Ever go to college? How many profs even accept hand written papers anymore? Would you rather fight for a machine in a lab to do your work or relax in your own room writing?
Did you even notice how the whole campus is wireless so you can sit outside and relax while doing whatever you want on the web?
Well, I'm very proud to say that my father is the quoted VP who set all this up. I just left a voicemail on his cell phone and when he gets back to me I'll ask what tuition costs there.
Quite the shock to check/. and see yer dad on the front page:)
We were pretty much forced into a xeon solution because it was the only motherboard I could find that had the number of PCI slots and busses that I felt comfortable with. The two 3ware cards sit on one 64/66 bus and the main NIC sits on another bus. I use one array for the live data set and one for the backups. (LVM + ReiserFS in linux is the best thing since sliced bread)
Its really neat being able to increase the size of your filesystems on the fly, or just create another 80g lv to hold some temp data. For backups, I just snapshot the lv I want to back up, create a new lv on the second card and just dd the data over.
I have a boatload of bonnie++ numbers that I got when I was testing it out. If anyone is interested I can post them. We settled on RAID-5 on each controller because even though we took a performance hit, the network was still the bottleneck.
All this in 4u of space. Oh, if you do build a mega-server like this, TAKE TIME TO CALCULATE POWER REQUIREMENTS! The power supply that was going to be supplied with the case was WAY undersized for spinning up all the disks at once. I had to special order a supply (zippy.com R3G-6650P, their page is slow and hard to navigate, be forewarned)
I'm tired, I think I'll go to bed. If you want more info just reply to this and I'll get to it in the morning.
NOTE TO MODERATORS:
This is not a troll, it is a reply to his sig which is a quote from the short (and twisted) movie "Rejected". I suggest you watch it. You will watch it so much you will believe that YOU too are a bananna and your spoon, however much you like it, is too big.
My brother has that neato little futitsu transmeta powered laptop. It isn't going to win any speed records, but it does a damn fine job at running VERY cool and it just sips the battery unlike all the intel laptops I have owned in the past (with the exception of my old toshiba p-266mmx... that thing was a tank).
By far, it is not a desktop replacement, but when that isn't how you try and use it you are fine. Their cpu was not built to be a killer-super-fast-cpu (and it isn't). I bet if I sit you down on a computer powered by an 800mhz transmeta and a p4 2ghz, you won't even be able to tell the difference with "normal*" tasks.
It all comes down to how one plans on using the technology. Just because _you_ think it is unacceptably slow does not mean others think the same thing. I used to upgrade my PC all the time because it just wasn't fast enough. I stopped doing that around the 1ghz mark because now it is fast enough. To throw a good quote in here... "A blur is just a blur." (this quote was back when doing a 'dir' in dos scrolled by in a blur on a 486sx-33, and it looked the same on a pentium-233.)
*Normal being just checking mail, AIM (or your IM client of choice), Web browsing, Generic stuff like that. Of course this assumes that everything else is the same (HD speed, ram size etc).
Bad analogy. A 3L F1 engine puts out in excess of 850HP, courtesy of a high tech design that can go in excess of 18,000 RPMs
...lets not forget that it needs to be rebuilt after every race:)
Re:all the isps already support linux
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AOL's new Linux PC
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I've still never seen an ISP that doesn't support
linux. Sometimes they don't understand that they
do, but it's just DHCP or pppoe.
You have this backwards... You have yet to find an ISP that Linux does not support. Just because you can make it work does not mean it is supported in any way.
-paul
Geez, this is the first PC you ever modified? First PC I ever modified was cutting out some fan covers for better airflow. It looked like ASS, but it worked. (I've gotten better now:)
That thing looks GREAT. I would love to try my hand at one too... but it runs into the same problems as most other projects I would like to start. I have no $ or reason to start.
Modding for the sake of modding sure is cool, but after a while it just gets... well, boring. Plus, once you are done and over the "high" from a successful mod you need to find something else to hack apart and put back together:). (I did this with my i-opened-it. I got it all done and it was like "now what?")
I've had great luck with the 1.2 celery upgrades. I'm using one right now in an old BX board and the cluster at work is 17 dell workstations upgraded with those chips.
(yes 17... 16 computational nodes and one control box/nfs server)
It is an amazing upgrade (assuming you have enough ram and your HD isn't a POS)
I'm sure heat is one of the main factors prohibiting them from adding an AMD version. Intel CPUs run much cooler than their AMD counterparts [I tried finding a link to Tom's Hardware (www.tomsharware.com) video where he takes the heat sinks off and the AMD chips fry) so I imagine it would be much tougher to implement a cooling solution in such a small case.
I fail to see how AMD's lack of sufficient thermal protection is holding shuttle back. They already have proven that they can get an AMD chip up and running just fine. (Not sure of the model #, but it does exist).
Now before this erupts into some sort of holy war, I'm not saying you are incorrect in that AMD's produce more heat and that it isn't a problem. They are quite a toasty chip. I did read somewhere that the p4 chips do pull a fair amount of power and thusly produce lots of heat. Possibly moreso then Intel would like us to believe.
Back on topic. My friend has the pIII flavor of this box, and it does get HOT (granted its the "stupid" version where the power supply vents into the case) If AMD did have better thermal throttling I would go for one of them, but in such a tight little case, the protection a p4 has is just too valuble (to me).
For any of you slack junkies who just can't find it or find it fast enough.... ftp over to mirror.ce.rit.edu
It's not a blazing fast machine, but it is far from slow. Happy downloading.
Slashdot Mirror
On a side note, I call it my "woodie". hehe
This is however the first time I have heard of this for audio distribution. Pretty good idea if ya ask me (which nobody has)
for anyone who is interested: :P on you.
www.mentor.com
www.synopsys.com
I don't feel like making them links, so
Whatever happened to the nice simple boot sector viruses... damn worms!
I call dibs on driving the the zamboni! (sp?)
I must say, nice comparison. Where are those stupid mod points when ya need them. -paul
Sorry, but I got karma to burn and I think its funny :)
Quite true. I have yet to play with .11a yet. I got a dual band card so I can up grade my access point someday, but I have yet to get the money to do it :)
This is based on the assumption that Joe Consumer has enough brains to use Kazaa. I never said that Joe ripped his own DVDs.
I've found that trying to stream anything worthwild over a .11b link is just too iffy. I often stream video files from my server to whereever I am sitting with the laptop. With the netgear card reporting a full speed connect at ~60% signal strength and 100% quality it is kind-of jerky at times. I know I'm pushing the limits of what that little wireless connect can do.
Now I can deal with it for now because I'm not expecting it to perform perfectly. However, what is going to happen when Joe Consumer picks one of these up, hooks in the wireless part and tries to stream his DVD rip collection and it gets .3FPS?
Answer: You get one very unhappy Joe Consumer.
I believe that people will expect this thing to do more then it can, and I doubt that sonic will be up front and tell people about this limitation.
Makes me think of a car dealer trying to sell a car for use on interstate highways but the car can only go 45MPH. Sure it works, but it isn't quite what you expected now is it?
Theft is low because the students are responsible for the laptop that is assigned to them.
I'm not totally sure what road you are trying to go down with the mac/ms tax comment so I'll just blow right by it and go onto the last comment you made. Ever go to college? How many profs even accept hand written papers anymore? Would you rather fight for a machine in a lab to do your work or relax in your own room writing?
Did you even notice how the whole campus is wireless so you can sit outside and relax while doing whatever you want on the web?
Bah, I've wasted enough battery life on an AC.
Quite the shock to check /. and see yer dad on the front page :)
dual xeon 2g
2g ram
16 120g 5400rpm maxtor drives across 2 7500-8 3ware cards
2 gigabit network cards
We were pretty much forced into a xeon solution because it was the only motherboard I could find that had the number of PCI slots and busses that I felt comfortable with. The two 3ware cards sit on one 64/66 bus and the main NIC sits on another bus. I use one array for the live data set and one for the backups. (LVM + ReiserFS in linux is the best thing since sliced bread)
Its really neat being able to increase the size of your filesystems on the fly, or just create another 80g lv to hold some temp data. For backups, I just snapshot the lv I want to back up, create a new lv on the second card and just dd the data over.
I have a boatload of bonnie++ numbers that I got when I was testing it out. If anyone is interested I can post them. We settled on RAID-5 on each controller because even though we took a performance hit, the network was still the bottleneck.
All this in 4u of space. Oh, if you do build a mega-server like this, TAKE TIME TO CALCULATE POWER REQUIREMENTS! The power supply that was going to be supplied with the case was WAY undersized for spinning up all the disks at once. I had to special order a supply (zippy.com R3G-6650P, their page is slow and hard to navigate, be forewarned)
I'm tired, I think I'll go to bed. If you want more info just reply to this and I'll get to it in the morning.
-paul
Our processor is so fast it can play a DVD in half the time as other processors!
</joke>
but how is your anus?
NOTE TO MODERATORS:
This is not a troll, it is a reply to his sig which is a quote from the short (and twisted) movie "Rejected". I suggest you watch it. You will watch it so much you will believe that YOU too are a bananna and your spoon, however much you like it, is too big.
Oh yeah, I love yer sig :)
just start at 69.69.69.69 and go from there!
(Hmmm, I wonder who has that block.... I think I'll go check)
By far, it is not a desktop replacement, but when that isn't how you try and use it you are fine. Their cpu was not built to be a killer-super-fast-cpu (and it isn't). I bet if I sit you down on a computer powered by an 800mhz transmeta and a p4 2ghz, you won't even be able to tell the difference with "normal*" tasks.
It all comes down to how one plans on using the technology. Just because _you_ think it is unacceptably slow does not mean others think the same thing. I used to upgrade my PC all the time because it just wasn't fast enough. I stopped doing that around the 1ghz mark because now it is fast enough. To throw a good quote in here... "A blur is just a blur." (this quote was back when doing a 'dir' in dos scrolled by in a blur on a 486sx-33, and it looked the same on a pentium-233.)
*Normal being just checking mail, AIM (or your IM client of choice), Web browsing, Generic stuff like that. Of course this assumes that everything else is the same (HD speed, ram size etc).
bah, I'll just submit this now
You have this backwards... You have yet to find an ISP that Linux does not support. Just because you can make it work does not mean it is supported in any way. -paul
That thing looks GREAT. I would love to try my hand at one too... but it runs into the same problems as most other projects I would like to start. I have no $ or reason to start.
Modding for the sake of modding sure is cool, but after a while it just gets... well, boring. Plus, once you are done and over the "high" from a successful mod you need to find something else to hack apart and put back together :). (I did this with my i-opened-it. I got it all done and it was like "now what?")
Again tho... beautiful mod. Very well done.
-paul
It is an amazing upgrade (assuming you have enough ram and your HD isn't a POS)
I fail to see how AMD's lack of sufficient thermal protection is holding shuttle back. They already have proven that they can get an AMD chip up and running just fine. (Not sure of the model #, but it does exist).
Now before this erupts into some sort of holy war, I'm not saying you are incorrect in that AMD's produce more heat and that it isn't a problem. They are quite a toasty chip. I did read somewhere that the p4 chips do pull a fair amount of power and thusly produce lots of heat. Possibly moreso then Intel would like us to believe.
Back on topic. My friend has the pIII flavor of this box, and it does get HOT (granted its the "stupid" version where the power supply vents into the case) If AMD did have better thermal throttling I would go for one of them, but in such a tight little case, the protection a p4 has is just too valuble (to me).
For any of you slack junkies who just can't find it or find it fast enough.... ftp over to mirror.ce.rit.edu It's not a blazing fast machine, but it is far from slow. Happy downloading.
What version of tetris do YOU have?!?
Sony is so going to sue them for that name...