Minus web developer plugin. IMO FF is the best thing since sliced bread because of those web developer tools. Smart move - appeal to the web developers and the rest will follow.
Browsers like KTHML, Galleon, Safari, Opera and Firefox can try as they might to implement new standards. If 90% of the market doesn't support them, web developers can't use them.
Not only that, but even today, some companies still force Nutscrape 4 support - a six year old browser IIRC.
I've been absolutely pining for improved css2 support so we can use css selectors. It'd make a lot of tasks much simpler if we were able to use all the css selectors available in the spec.
I never paid - but those who are interested in usability, folks like Lycoris and Linspire for example are interested in usability.
They should be the ones contributing to the usability of Gnome. That was all I meant. They have a financial interest in making Gnome better for end users. They are making the desktop push, not I.
I've honestly been trying to enjoy linux on the desktop since Mandrake 5. FC3 is the first distro IMO that has done everything I've wanted with two exceptions: Executing something off an smb file system - it'd be nice if Gnome auto mounted the smb share, executed the file, and unmounted when it didn't need it, and the second is the menu editor, which you guys can probably port over from Xfce.
You're right. Most end user folks will download a package from an rpm or a yum/apt/portage reposiotory and stare at their OS wondering why the menu item for the application they just installed didn't appear, and then ask to have Windows installed instead.
Either Linux is for the Elite, or it's ready for the desktop. Can't have it both ways IMO.
Usability is a concern for everyone in Linux world, but mostly those who have a financial interest in selling more copies of their distro. Me? I honestly can code my way out of it if I really want to, or read scores of documentation and updated the.desktop files. Doesn't bother me too much.
But when end user "x" installs a piece of software on a Gnome machine, and can't find a way to remove the shortcuts in their menu, or can't find a way to add them because the package didn't add them, this is a direct problem with usability. Gnome can chose to ignore me and it isn't going to make the slightest difference in my life. I can always switch to KDE or xfce or whatever if I feel like Gnome doesn't work for me.
Me a customer??? Honestly, I recommend Redhat Enterprise for corporate clients, but I never recomment redhat on the desktop. Not worth paying for IMO, when there's some really good distros out there that are free.
Hmmm... Isn't Gnome the standard desktop on Redhat Enterprise? That's not free.... As many other distros aren't either.
It's these distros who are being complacent. If users are requesting features, it's these distros who are partly responsible for getting the changes into Gnome.
And let's face it, I've bitched before about this, the lack of a menu editor in Gnome is appaling.
nah, you can use the applications:// url in nautilus too.
FWIW That's readonly in Fedora
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Admittedly, the transition to Gnome from Windows is easier, for the icon standards are similar.
KDE pisses me off with how cluttered the icons in the applications look. There appears to be little spacing between icons. It makes for a crammed, cluttered looking appearance.
Gnome pisses me off because its menu editing is so friggin' stupid. FWIW FC3 dropped the Gnome menue editor because it was too buggy.
I like both. However I lean towards Gnome because it's cleaner, and more polished.
Casual observation could have just as easily proven that lobotomy and ECT were ineffectively used.
Those were just the first examples, and the most heinous that come to mind. My argument is simply that you cannot appeal to academics alone, for they so often disagree amongst themselves, and are always trying to disprove each other.
The manner that the APA endoreses ECT is a tad different than the days of "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Next" according to a Psych Prof from SFU. She said that it's used in really quick, sort controlled bursts to aid clinical depression. Apparently the dose is much lighter and more controlled, and much shorter than before.
but if IDF says that people who indulge in fantasy games, as a statistical group, have personality traits that make them a lower security risk, then I am inclined to believe them.
There was a point in time where ECT in mental institutions was commonplace because it was endorsed by the American Psychology Association.
Today, we know that ECT only helps certain cases of clinical depression, and is used only in extreme cases when no other solution exists.
If you go further back with the same association, they used to perform labotamies. Do you think that practice is done today?
We need to be critical of experts. You cannot always agree with experts.
There was this case here in BC where a man was ordered to pay his ex-wife more allimony than he could afford, to the point where he was left to poverty for the rest of his life, given his current wages. I cannot imagine having to deal with a life of court-ordered poverty. His solution was to kill himself. Right or wrong, this man hit a brick wall in life. It was a very tragic story.
Not that I agree with his solution, but I understand why he killed himself. If it were me, I'd have either given up and taken welfare so the ex-wife gets nothing, or I'd have driven into the judge so I'd get to spend the rest of my life being taken care of. Both are better options than working to only support the ex-wife.
> 99% of users out there have flash in their browser. Building a flash site is more compatible than any plain text html site.
Anyway nothing special really... I had google ads on my wedding web site, and/. users had clicked to get me $500 from adsense, and google revoked my account because they felt there was questionable behaviour.
Thing is, I never clicked an ad from any address that was my own, or that I logged into my adsense account with. (My fiance's house OTOH...)
Google pisses me off with their apathy towards google spammers. If there were a search engine out there that indexed usenet as well as google, and provided a quality web search I'd switch in a heartbeat.
The fact that it's on the Internet is moot; it's false advertising. Simply that.
I got hit with something similar on Amazon marketplace. A seller placed a camera lens for $200 on that normally sells for $450. I pounced on it. They cancelled my order because they made a mistake.
I was pissed, and wrote a complaint at resellerratings.com , but other than that, I really had no recourse
lol OT, but I recall an interview I had with a company and the question was "Do you know XML?"
Well instead of saying yes, just to get the job, I decided to ask him to clarify. What do you mean I asked? XML has many parts to it. Parsing? Writing? Transforming? Displaying in a browser?
I proceeded to explain that I was only familiar with a couple parsing engines and I knew XSL and XML with CSS, and understaood how to wrote XML Schema and DTD.
I didn't get the job. Guess I should have just said yes.
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Minus web developer plugin. IMO FF is the best thing since sliced bread because of those web developer tools. Smart move - appeal to the web developers and the rest will follow.
Browsers like KTHML, Galleon, Safari, Opera and Firefox can try as they might to implement new standards. If 90% of the market doesn't support them, web developers can't use them.
Not only that, but even today, some companies still force Nutscrape 4 support - a six year old browser IIRC.
I've been absolutely pining for improved css2 support so we can use css selectors. It'd make a lot of tasks much simpler if we were able to use all the css selectors available in the spec.
I never paid - but those who are interested in usability, folks like Lycoris and Linspire for example are interested in usability.
They should be the ones contributing to the usability of Gnome. That was all I meant. They have a financial interest in making Gnome better for end users. They are making the desktop push, not I.
I've honestly been trying to enjoy linux on the desktop since Mandrake 5. FC3 is the first distro IMO that has done everything I've wanted with two exceptions: Executing something off an smb file system - it'd be nice if Gnome auto mounted the smb share, executed the file, and unmounted when it didn't need it, and the second is the menu editor, which you guys can probably port over from Xfce.
I'm a linux user running in 1280x1024 on the cheapest LCD flat panel I could find... what does that say about me?
It says you're a Linux user on the cheapest LCD flat panel you could find. Duh!
You're right. Most end user folks will download a package from an rpm or a yum/apt/portage reposiotory and stare at their OS wondering why the menu item for the application they just installed didn't appear, and then ask to have Windows installed instead.
Either Linux is for the Elite, or it's ready for the desktop. Can't have it both ways IMO.
Usability is a concern for everyone in Linux world, but mostly those who have a financial interest in selling more copies of their distro. Me? I honestly can code my way out of it if I really want to, or read scores of documentation and updated the .desktop files. Doesn't bother me too much.
But when end user "x" installs a piece of software on a Gnome machine, and can't find a way to remove the shortcuts in their menu, or can't find a way to add them because the package didn't add them, this is a direct problem with usability. Gnome can chose to ignore me and it isn't going to make the slightest difference in my life. I can always switch to KDE or xfce or whatever if I feel like Gnome doesn't work for me.
Me a customer??? Honestly, I recommend Redhat Enterprise for corporate clients, but I never recomment redhat on the desktop. Not worth paying for IMO, when there's some really good distros out there that are free.
I love it when people gripe about free software.
Hmmm... Isn't Gnome the standard desktop on Redhat Enterprise? That's not free.... As many other distros aren't either.
It's these distros who are being complacent. If users are requesting features, it's these distros who are partly responsible for getting the changes into Gnome.
And let's face it, I've bitched before about this, the lack of a menu editor in Gnome is appaling.
nah, you can use the applications:// url in nautilus too.
FWIW That's readonly in Fedora
Admittedly, the transition to Gnome from Windows is easier, for the icon standards are similar.
KDE pisses me off with how cluttered the icons in the applications look. There appears to be little spacing between icons. It makes for a crammed, cluttered looking appearance.
Gnome pisses me off because its menu editing is so friggin' stupid. FWIW FC3 dropped the Gnome menue editor because it was too buggy.
I like both. However I lean towards Gnome because it's cleaner, and more polished.
If I want performance, I'll use XFce
Casual observation could have just as easily proven that lobotomy and ECT were ineffectively used.
Those were just the first examples, and the most heinous that come to mind. My argument is simply that you cannot appeal to academics alone, for they so often disagree amongst themselves, and are always trying to disprove each other.
The manner that the APA endoreses ECT is a tad different than the days of "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Next" according to a Psych Prof from SFU. She said that it's used in really quick, sort controlled bursts to aid clinical depression. Apparently the dose is much lighter and more controlled, and much shorter than before.
I meant "we" as a society...
but if IDF says that people who indulge in fantasy games, as a statistical group, have personality traits that make them a lower security risk, then I am inclined to believe them.
There was a point in time where ECT in mental institutions was commonplace because it was endorsed by the American Psychology Association.
Today, we know that ECT only helps certain cases of clinical depression, and is used only in extreme cases when no other solution exists.
If you go further back with the same association, they used to perform labotamies. Do you think that practice is done today?
We need to be critical of experts. You cannot always agree with experts.
Unless their bean-counters have taken Econ 101
Obviously you never took economics 101 either.
Now true the cheaper you go, the more a person will download. The trick, however is to maximize profits. They are in business to make money. Period.
They feel that 99 cents / song maximizes their reveues. Their choice - it's their product, and if you don't like it, move on and listen to the radio.
Oh, here's a link to that case
There was this case here in BC where a man was ordered to pay his ex-wife more allimony than he could afford, to the point where he was left to poverty for the rest of his life, given his current wages. I cannot imagine having to deal with a life of court-ordered poverty. His solution was to kill himself. Right or wrong, this man hit a brick wall in life. It was a very tragic story.
Not that I agree with his solution, but I understand why he killed himself. If it were me, I'd have either given up and taken welfare so the ex-wife gets nothing, or I'd have driven into the judge so I'd get to spend the rest of my life being taken care of. Both are better options than working to only support the ex-wife.
> 99% of users out there have flash in their browser. Building a flash site is more compatible than any plain text html site.
/. users had clicked to get me $500 from adsense, and google revoked my account because they felt there was questionable behaviour.
Anyway nothing special really... I had google ads on my wedding web site, and
Thing is, I never clicked an ad from any address that was my own, or that I logged into my adsense account with. (My fiance's house OTOH...)
Naw. In the spirit of Postal 2, you shove the shotgun up her as while she's alive and shoot good guys with it....
Google pisses me off with their apathy towards google spammers. If there were a search engine out there that indexed usenet as well as google, and provided a quality web search I'd switch in a heartbeat.
The fact that it's on the Internet is moot; it's false advertising. Simply that.
I got hit with something similar on Amazon marketplace. A seller placed a camera lens for $200 on that normally sells for $450. I pounced on it. They cancelled my order because they made a mistake.
I was pissed, and wrote a complaint at resellerratings.com , but other than that, I really had no recourse
Seriously I had never heard that joke on /. b4, but I admit I was kidding ;)
I'm with you - if I hear a "In soviet russua you!" joke, I might have to start unleashing mod points lol...
Isn't a Symbian a strange sex machine where they attach a dildo to a jackhammer and mount it to a total-gym or something?
lol OT, but I recall an interview I had with a company and the question was "Do you know XML?"
Well instead of saying yes, just to get the job, I decided to ask him to clarify. What do you mean I asked? XML has many parts to it. Parsing? Writing? Transforming? Displaying in a browser?
I proceeded to explain that I was only familiar with a couple parsing engines and I knew XSL and XML with CSS, and understaood how to wrote XML Schema and DTD.
I didn't get the job. Guess I should have just said yes.
Punishment vs. Positive Reinforcement. IMO, and the O of psychologists, positive reinforcement works much better.
Just run your web servers on non standard ports then if they are so sly as to block 80... You can get pretty funky with redirects and stuff.
They will have to block all inbound ports to stop me bwa haha.