no joke.
He's feeling anxious about the size of his theory all right.
Are we looking at "intelligent design"?. A little intelligence negates the need for alot of code.
No christian troll here, didn't they find that ecoli changes it's dna much faster than random mutation can account for? Is a community where reciepes are tried at random but only the good ones communicated a community-scale intellience? So what's wrong with a dna-editing pan-organismic (or however you'd like to slice it) intelligent consciousness? What's all the ruckus?
Being adults we also know the difference between copyright infringement and theft, yes? Also, being adults, we know that property/ip-law-enforcement is a convention with only limited utility and not some kind of holy doctrine and that it is quite ok to bend, mangle, or kick it to the curb if it seems like the convenient thing to do. Of course the primary property-holders/propoganda-spewers would say otherwise, but we take what they say with only a grain of salt, right?
I think it'd be alot simpler than a lander-rover. No gravity or atmosphere-entry to contend with.
Here's the scenario. I'm I'm totally ripping off Larry Niven Here.
Assuming that we can find an asteroid with the desired consistancy and orbit we'd need the following operations to be performed:
Make big curved mirror: Blow up balloon. Spray foam over it. Puff a little vaporized silver inside it. Cut it in half.
So you got big big heater/cutters now.
Drill the asteroid. Throw in a chunk of ice (gotten off a neighboring asteroid, sealed within a big prefab exploding can). seal the hole. Melt the asteroid into a big molten ball explode the can. Let bubble cool. Drill hole. Slap in prefab airlock.. throw in more ice. Heat it up to 72 degrees or whatever. Electralysize some of the water for atmosphere. grind up some of the rock for soil. Innoculate the soil...
ok, maybe it is kind of involved.
How about just a power station ( temperature-differential generators? ) and a pile of refined minerals. It'd be a nice step. You'd melt the ball (no exploding can)and spin it. When it cools you got refined strata.
So now the robot's gotta: Fling out a sheet of electricity-making fabric/grid/whatever. Blow up a balloon, spray foam over it (maybe the balloon could handle this itsellf), squirt the silver. Cut it (again, maybe the balloon. Maybe the mirrors could make themselves). Spin the asteroid (ion rocket-pack?). Aim the mirrors. (Could the robot process molten metal into thousands of miles of wires for the generator? Controlled-splash it? Vaporize it and spin it on magnetic fields?)
Would this power-station / resource-dump be feasable?
I think it would be much cheaper to do it like this:
1) Send a robot to a handy asteroid between here and mars.
2) Have the robot base-ize the asteroid (via solar-melt-iron-bubble technology) and fil it with air and some easy food-crop (algae?).
3) THEN send some people to this base to do the final construction. Use it as a starting point for forays to mars and beyond.
It might be cheaper and safer to do it this way. Faster? Maybe, I haven't done the math. Biggest hurdle I see is getting tons of crap out of our gravity well. Maybe a hurdle we should avoid. There's lots of nice nickel-iron and sunlight out there. Avoiding heavy-lifting unnecessary resources strikes me as key.
Ya, and think of all the burgerflippers you put out of a job when you decide to eat healthy, and the muggers your putting out of buisness when you avoid dark alleyways,...
Pushed for part time. Bosses didn't go fo it. Ended up quitting. Now I run a landscaping business and my projects rock. You have a limited amount of programming juice. Don't spend it chasing dollars.
P2P is as uncorruptable as our technology can make it. Politicians will always be corrupt and all governments are tools in the hands of the rich.
Which one do you trust to provide 'governmental services' like implementing the will of the people, disseminating important information and generally looking out for our best interest? My vote is on p2p technologies. The present government can rot. P2p IS our next government.
New braincells are total wildcards. They can be used for anything. Put a grid of wires over a 1000X1000 patch of neurons shortly after birth. Use the grid for io, teaching the baby to use the interface. Viola, a computer finger.
I checked out their site and didn't see any balloon robots. Then I googled and observed a definite dearth. What's up with that? Such an obvious design and so few implementations.
What's wrong with an installation api? It sounds like a great idea to me. It's essentiall what you've got with Java Web Start. Automatic upgrades as well. It kicks ass.
It's the only way to be sure. Central authorities always get corrupted.
Validity of id-individual pairs would be determined by common usage. Cheating would occur via spampoganda.
I think that you people miss the point of electronic voting:
The government is simply the conventional city/state/nation/world-wide power-coordinating structure (or so the theory of democracy goes).
With electronic voting WE DON'T NEED THAT STRUCTURE ANYMORE.
Voting is a means to coordinated action. Electronic voting is a means of voting conveniently, without the need of government provided voting/power-coordinating services.
With electronic voting we don't need a government. ANY kind of coordinated action is powerful. If we coordinated 10% of ourselves today in even something as mundane as our spending-habits a power would be realised that would cause the so-called national governments to pale into IRRELAVENCY.
It's just a matter of convincing a few hundred million people to cooporate.
2 choices: 1) WIn-starter: A 'starter version' of a crap OS made by people who aren't even interested in making quality software. Remember, Microsoft is in the business of making money, not software. 2) The finest OS on earth designed by the finest minds on earth, for free: LInux.
Windows attracts virii like a rotting horse and it has 20 other problems too.
Last time I messed with linux it was a navigating and configing nightmare but I'm going back because windows sucks so much.
Silly laws cause disrespect for the legal system, but the legal system depends on our respect to function. They sow the seeds of their own destruction.
Like the guy 2 posts down, the nickel-iron would be out of a gravity well, therefor priceless. What did you think we were going to build our bases from, plywood?
If I recall my StarCon 2 days, the moon has few useful elements on it, same goes for Mars- tho the reality may differ. As for mining- you obviously haven't read your Niven:
You inflate a huge balloon out in space (it just takes a little air) coat the outside with spray-foam, coat the inside with a little vaporized silver, cut it in half... viola, 2 nice mirrors. Then you use the mirrors to focus sunlight on your chosen asteroid (keeping in mind that space is a really good insulator so the heat ain't going anywhere), melting it, and smelt off your elements by spinning the hot blob of molten metal.
For shelter we can use a similar trick:
We drill a hole to the center of an asteroid, put some cans or water or chunks of ice in there, seal up our hole, apply heat. An iron steam-bubble with your choice of wall-thickness is created. Let it cool, move in.
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no joke. He's feeling anxious about the size of his theory all right. Are we looking at "intelligent design"?. A little intelligence negates the need for alot of code. No christian troll here, didn't they find that ecoli changes it's dna much faster than random mutation can account for? Is a community where reciepes are tried at random but only the good ones communicated a community-scale intellience? So what's wrong with a dna-editing pan-organismic (or however you'd like to slice it) intelligent consciousness? What's all the ruckus?
Being adults we also know the difference between copyright infringement and theft, yes? Also, being adults, we know that property/ip-law-enforcement is a convention with only limited utility and not some kind of holy doctrine and that it is quite ok to bend, mangle, or kick it to the curb if it seems like the convenient thing to do. Of course the primary property-holders/propoganda-spewers would say otherwise, but we take what they say with only a grain of salt, right?
They appear to have a 100% working system. Why aren't we using their system?
I think the asteroids are much resource-richer than the moon. Big chunks of good iron-mixed-with-rocks. Negligible gravity too.
I think it'd be alot simpler than a lander-rover. No gravity or atmosphere-entry to contend with.
Here's the scenario. I'm I'm totally ripping off Larry Niven Here.
Assuming that we can find an asteroid with the desired consistancy and orbit we'd need the following operations to be performed:
Make big curved mirror: Blow up balloon. Spray foam over it. Puff a little vaporized silver inside it. Cut it in half.
So you got big big heater/cutters now.
Drill the asteroid.
Throw in a chunk of ice (gotten off a neighboring asteroid, sealed within a big prefab exploding can).
seal the hole.
Melt the asteroid into a big molten ball
explode the can.
Let bubble cool.
Drill hole.
Slap in prefab airlock..
throw in more ice.
Heat it up to 72 degrees or whatever.
Electralysize some of the water for atmosphere.
grind up some of the rock for soil.
Innoculate the soil...
ok, maybe it is kind of involved.
How about just a power station ( temperature-differential generators? ) and a pile of refined minerals. It'd be a nice step. You'd melt the ball (no exploding can)and spin it. When it cools you got refined strata.
So now the robot's gotta:
Fling out a sheet of electricity-making fabric/grid/whatever.
Blow up a balloon, spray foam over it (maybe the balloon could handle this itsellf), squirt the silver.
Cut it (again, maybe the balloon. Maybe the mirrors could make themselves).
Spin the asteroid (ion rocket-pack?).
Aim the mirrors.
(Could the robot process molten metal into thousands of miles of wires for the generator? Controlled-splash it? Vaporize it and spin it on magnetic fields?)
Would this power-station / resource-dump be feasable?
I think it would be much cheaper to do it like this:
1) Send a robot to a handy asteroid between here and mars.
2) Have the robot base-ize the asteroid (via solar-melt-iron-bubble technology) and fil it with air and some easy food-crop (algae?).
3) THEN send some people to this base to do the final construction. Use it as a starting point for forays to mars and beyond.
It might be cheaper and safer to do it this way. Faster? Maybe, I haven't done the math. Biggest hurdle I see is getting tons of crap out of our gravity well. Maybe a hurdle we should avoid. There's lots of nice nickel-iron and sunlight out there. Avoiding heavy-lifting unnecessary resources strikes me as key.
Their business model was threatened (by vonage etc) so they're moving over. How much u want to bet that they don't lower their rates?
Why don't radiologists translate the grayscale to a rainbow scale if distingiushing fine gradients is an issue?
Ya, and think of all the burgerflippers you put out of a job when you decide to eat healthy, and the muggers your putting out of buisness when you avoid dark alleyways,...
He wasn't citing justice so much as biological fact. Wasps lay eggs in spiders bellies and other horrible things too. The beauty of nature.
I'll bet you could ad to it's range/lifting-power by adding a donut-balloon filled with hydrogen. Wrap it around that box-body.
Pushed for part time. Bosses didn't go fo it. Ended up quitting. Now I run a landscaping business and my projects rock. You have a limited amount of programming juice. Don't spend it chasing dollars.
P2P is as uncorruptable as our technology can make it. Politicians will always be corrupt and all governments are tools in the hands of the rich.
Which one do you trust to provide 'governmental services' like implementing the will of the people, disseminating important information and generally looking out for our best interest? My vote is on p2p technologies. The present government can rot. P2p IS our next government.
New braincells are total wildcards. They can be used for anything. Put a grid of wires over a 1000X1000 patch of neurons shortly after birth. Use the grid for io, teaching the baby to use the interface. Viola, a computer finger.
I checked out their site and didn't see any balloon robots. Then I googled and observed a definite dearth. What's up with that? Such an obvious design and so few implementations.
self-interest is guarenteed. Fidelity is not. Obviously. Centralized government provides easy target. Corruption is inevitable.
way to pick up the easy meat.
What's wrong with an installation api? It sounds like a great idea to me. It's essentiall what you've got with Java Web Start. Automatic upgrades as well. It kicks ass.
What's the more important part of an axe, the handle or the head?
It's the only way to be sure. Central authorities always get corrupted. Validity of id-individual pairs would be determined by common usage. Cheating would occur via spampoganda.
I think that you people miss the point of electronic voting:
The government is simply the conventional city/state/nation/world-wide power-coordinating structure (or so the theory of democracy goes).
With electronic voting WE DON'T NEED THAT STRUCTURE ANYMORE.
Voting is a means to coordinated action. Electronic voting is a means of voting conveniently, without the need of government provided voting/power-coordinating services.
With electronic voting we don't need a government.
ANY kind of coordinated action is powerful. If we coordinated 10% of ourselves today in even something as mundane as our spending-habits a power would be realised that would cause the so-called national governments to pale into IRRELAVENCY.
It's just a matter of convincing a few hundred million people to cooporate.
2 choices:
1) WIn-starter: A 'starter version' of a crap OS made by people who aren't even interested in making quality software. Remember, Microsoft is in the business of making money, not software.
2) The finest OS on earth designed by the finest minds on earth, for free: LInux.
My pity is vast.
Windows attracts virii like a rotting horse and it has 20 other problems too. Last time I messed with linux it was a navigating and configing nightmare but I'm going back because windows sucks so much.
Silly laws cause disrespect for the legal system, but the legal system depends on our respect to function. They sow the seeds of their own destruction.
Like the guy 2 posts down, the nickel-iron would be out of a gravity well, therefor priceless. What did you think we were going to build our bases from, plywood?
If I recall my StarCon 2 days, the moon has few useful elements on it, same goes for Mars- tho the reality may differ.
As for mining- you obviously haven't read your Niven:
You inflate a huge balloon out in space (it just takes a little air) coat the outside with spray-foam, coat the inside with a little vaporized silver, cut it in half... viola, 2 nice mirrors. Then you use the mirrors to focus sunlight on your chosen asteroid (keeping in mind that space is a really good insulator so the heat ain't going anywhere), melting it, and smelt off your elements by spinning the hot blob of molten metal.
For shelter we can use a similar trick:
We drill a hole to the center of an asteroid, put some cans or water or chunks of ice in there, seal up our hole, apply heat. An iron steam-bubble with your choice of wall-thickness is created. Let it cool, move in.