Yes, I am a programmer myself. I understand that stuff. What Apple has done is reimplemented their search engine to make it faster. I still maintain that there's nothing new here. By your logic, Google should be up in arms that Apple is ripping them off by rewriting their search program.
Honestly, I still think this is just a whole lot of marketting hype.
I really don't like Microsoft. And I like Bill Gates even less. But I have to admit that this is a pretty good idea. I've worked in corporations enough to know that things like this just become another large program in the place to stifle any sort of individuality or freedom of thought.
The idea is good, but the implementation is always just LOUSY in a corporation, as they make generic blanket rules that never make any sort of rational sense.
And before a million people flame me for being racist... my skin isn't white.
yes, like most other people, you are missing something.
Thanks for the description. But I still don't see where adding more things to search and making the search faster is a big innovative feature. It's EVOLUTIONARY. I mean, I thought it was fairly common knowledge at this point that the most popular direction to take a search engine in is to make it search more stuff, and make it even faster. Both Apple and Microsoft seem to be doing this. Where's the beef?
Search - Backing a search up with a database is hardly what I would call revolutionary. Searches aren't new, and neither is backing them up with a database. It was really just a matter of time until someone extended them on the desktop
Scripting - Indeed. Key word is improvement, once more
IM - I'm just completely shocked that they would even think that adding features to IM clients is revolutionary. Apple will no doubt include a feature to change your desktop theme to the style of the person you are talking to, and Microsoft will no doubt expand on their ability to let the person you are talking to control your computer.
64 bit support - Yeah, this is just retarded. No getting around that. Apple will be annoyed that Microsoft is supporting monitors next.
In short, this list isnt so bad but back to the topic at hand, who is copying who - its perfectly plausible to say that neither party is copying each other; the changes are natural progressions in technology for the desktop and if anyone is being copied its the open source desktop community.
Exactly the point I was making in my original post. Except that I still think the list is one of the stupidest things I've seen in recent history. I personally think it's just a marketting ploy by Apple. They know that most people know that Microsoft has ripped them off in the past, and they know that they have a very loyal fanbase, so they just throw some dirt in Microsoft's general direction and hope it sticks. Myself, I am not a fan of either company, so I just think it's plain retarded.
My god. If that's what they are quibbling over as being new innovations, then this industry is pretty well hooped. I see pretty much everything on that list as being evolutionary or been done for quite some time.
Search: Maybe I'm missing something, but name one somewhat modern OS without a built in search function.
Scripting: Again, maybe I'm missing something, but WTF!
RSS: This (again) has been done in Opera and Mozilla for quite a while.
Info Display Panel: No idea what this is. But it sounds like a web browser to me. It could be the single thing in this list worth fighting about though.
Instant Messaging: Who on earth wrote this list?
64-Bit Support: If I wrote this list, I would be inclined to just shoot myself in the head, and do the world a favour.
Well, I didn't nay say much about Doom 3. Reason being that the Xbox is quite similar to the target platform for the game. It's not really that hard to render a black screen.;-)
But in all seriousness, Doom 3 works with a whole lot of lighting, and is primarily GPU limited. The worlds and models are low poly, but lighting tricks are used to make it look good. Half-Life 2 is an entirely different beast, and is a whole lot more CPU limited. That WILL cause problems on an Xbox.
Indeed. But what I can't figure out is how they are getting away with this at all. I thought that PIPEDA protected us from this sort of nonsense. A business can't divulge personal information about employees or customers without REALLY GOOD reason, or they risk rather steep fines.
Yes, I realize this. Console games will run on a fraction of the power that a PC game will, because of the console specific programming, and the lack of any other overhead.
However, I sincerely do believe that the Xbox is going to have some rather large problems with it. Two things that really stand out about Half Life 2 is the AI and the physics. Regardless of what else you are running on your CPU, it still comes down to the CPU having to process a great deal of physics and AI.
But I'm sure that we'll see when the game comes out. This is just my nay saying for the time being based on pure speculation. But I am seriously anticipated a game that's completely raped of the charisma it has on the PC.
Well, I honestly don't care about resolution. I run Half Life 2 at 800x600, or 1024x768, depending on my mood. I find that the game actually runs a slight bit faster on 1024x768 for some strange reason.
But my computer was completely killed by the game a short while ago. (Athlon XP 1800+). After a CPU upgrade (Athlon 64 3500+), it purrs like a kitten. I think it's fairly irrelevant what video card you are running. It depends almost entirely on what CPU you have.
And I hardly think that the Xbox's 733MHz Celeron is going to be up to the task.
Well, I pretty much exclusively use bittorrent to get my music. And according to the Canadian Federal Court, that isn't much different than what a library does. And in Canada, music downloading from other people is perfectlylegal as well for personal use.
So basically, the way I understand it, you are telling me that I'm a copyright infringer, and the Canadian Federal Court is telling me that I'm not.
In addition, even if you ARE right, the CRIA has virtually no power over me, as my ISP is quite militant about protecting their customers (they were one of the ISPs who refused to give customer names when the CRIA came knocking... and promptly got told to leave us alone by the federal court). So yeah, I think I'm pretty safe.
I mean, honestly. I don't know a single person who's ever BOUGHT a song online. Absolutely everyone I know has a ridiculously huge music collection that's come from napster, bittorrent, kazaa, morpheus, winmx, you name it. Anything but an officially sanctioned music site.
There's no incentive for us. We already pay a tax on our blank media, and downloading and uploading music are perfectly legal in Canada. Somehow I don't think that the online music companies are going to be shaking in their boots at all.
Was cruising through this thread, and didn't see any lists that I thought deserved modding up, so I figured I would post my own list. The problem I had with most of the lists that I saw were that they seemed to come from people who've never played a console game.
Platformer: Mario Bros.
Adventure: The Legend of Zelda
Graphical Adventure: The Secret of Monkey Island
Text Adventure: Zork
Japanese RPG: Dragon Quest
American RPG: A Bard's Tale
MMORPG: Ultima Online
Tactical RPG: Ogre Battle
FPS: Wolfenstein 3D
Sim: Sim City
Flight Sim: Sid Meier's F-19
Space Sim: Wing Commander
Fighting: Street Fighter
Real Time Strategy: Command and Conquer
Turn Based Strategy: Civilization
Puzzle: Tetris
Survival Horror: Resident Evil (or Alone in the Dark)
Sneaking: Metal Gear
Party: Mario Party
Music: Dance Dance Revolution
Racing: No idea, but I will tip my hat to Rad Racer
Sports: Ice Hockey (I'm Canadian)
These of course, are the games that defined their genres. The games that really laid down the track, and defined what the genre was. They might not have been the first, but they were the first of the popular ones, and served as a role model for the rest. I might have forgot a genre or two, but I think I have the majority of them. A few of my categories may be incorrect... especially the last couple, but I think overall, it's a fairly decent list of who's who.
Get a better browser. Install adblock, and remove your spyware. You should not be getting popups on Slashdot, and if you are, it's your own bloody fault.
All you have to figure out now is how to get 20 of the world's prettiest supermodels at your house, and some animal specimens, during the time of this burst, so you could repopulate the earth later.
Well, you could probably save on space a little by just simply keeping about 5 sheep in the house.
They were in limited circulation a few years back. I've gotten them as change a few times in the last couple of years. People know them, and recognize them, but they aren't common at all.
I also have a couple of dollar and two dollar bills around, but not in strong quantity at all.
I know the article says it just went gold, but I know damn well that there's some people here who've tried it. I am just curious... how useable is it?
I tried 64 bit Ubuntu briefly, but I went back to 32 bit after failing to acquire such things as my favorite XMMS plugins (which I never could get compiled and working properly, even in 32 bit, so was forced to get binaries), and 32codecs, and of course, browser plugins.
I would imagine that the video codecs work a lot better in Windows XP, but I would imagine that it would be much similar to Linux in that I would have to run in 32 bit mode in order to actually use most stuff.
I am aware that there's a way of running a 32 bit mode in Linux as well... but it seemed far too complex to actually go through with, and I am too much of a newbie to actually get it working properly.
That's what it's for. April Fool's is a time for every website in the known universe to go nuts. Slashdot is like a big directory for them. I rather enjoy it myself.
Which is why you should use residential open access points with unprotected routers. You can go in afterward, and clean your mac address from the router logs. It COULD be a honeypot, but I think the odds are pretty low.
I personally use a dual shock, as I find that it fits the mold better as a general purpose PC controller when you factor in PSX emulators, and PS2 ports. But I agree with you. I think the SNES controller is still the best thing going for 2D games, and I would buy an adapter myself if I had the funds.
Yes, I am a programmer myself. I understand that stuff. What Apple has done is reimplemented their search engine to make it faster. I still maintain that there's nothing new here. By your logic, Google should be up in arms that Apple is ripping them off by rewriting their search program.
Honestly, I still think this is just a whole lot of marketting hype.
I really don't like Microsoft. And I like Bill Gates even less. But I have to admit that this is a pretty good idea. I've worked in corporations enough to know that things like this just become another large program in the place to stifle any sort of individuality or freedom of thought.
The idea is good, but the implementation is always just LOUSY in a corporation, as they make generic blanket rules that never make any sort of rational sense.
And before a million people flame me for being racist... my skin isn't white.
yes, like most other people, you are missing something.
Thanks for the description. But I still don't see where adding more things to search and making the search faster is a big innovative feature. It's EVOLUTIONARY. I mean, I thought it was fairly common knowledge at this point that the most popular direction to take a search engine in is to make it search more stuff, and make it even faster. Both Apple and Microsoft seem to be doing this. Where's the beef?
- Search - Backing a search up with a database is hardly what I would call revolutionary. Searches aren't new, and neither is backing them up with a database. It was really just a matter of time until someone extended them on the desktop
- Scripting - Indeed. Key word is improvement, once more
- IM - I'm just completely shocked that they would even think that adding features to IM clients is revolutionary. Apple will no doubt include a feature to change your desktop theme to the style of the person you are talking to, and Microsoft will no doubt expand on their ability to let the person you are talking to control your computer.
- 64 bit support - Yeah, this is just retarded. No getting around that. Apple will be annoyed that Microsoft is supporting monitors next.
In short, this list isnt so bad but back to the topic at hand, who is copying who - its perfectly plausible to say that neither party is copying each other; the changes are natural progressions in technology for the desktop and if anyone is being copied its the open source desktop community.Exactly the point I was making in my original post. Except that I still think the list is one of the stupidest things I've seen in recent history. I personally think it's just a marketting ploy by Apple. They know that most people know that Microsoft has ripped them off in the past, and they know that they have a very loyal fanbase, so they just throw some dirt in Microsoft's general direction and hope it sticks. Myself, I am not a fan of either company, so I just think it's plain retarded.
That's my whole point though. Those are evolutionary changes, and are hardly something to be quibbling about.
Search: Basically, they are both allowing the user to search more things and faster. If this is an innovation, then... I am speechless.
Scripting: Again. We are making scripting easier and better. I just fail to see what's worth fighting over.
My god. If that's what they are quibbling over as being new innovations, then this industry is pretty well hooped. I see pretty much everything on that list as being evolutionary or been done for quite some time.
Search: Maybe I'm missing something, but name one somewhat modern OS without a built in search function.
Scripting: Again, maybe I'm missing something, but WTF!
RSS: This (again) has been done in Opera and Mozilla for quite a while.
Info Display Panel: No idea what this is. But it sounds like a web browser to me. It could be the single thing in this list worth fighting about though.
Instant Messaging: Who on earth wrote this list?
64-Bit Support: If I wrote this list, I would be inclined to just shoot myself in the head, and do the world a favour.
2 cops and the MPAA I would imagine. ;-)
Well, I didn't nay say much about Doom 3. Reason being that the Xbox is quite similar to the target platform for the game. It's not really that hard to render a black screen. ;-)
But in all seriousness, Doom 3 works with a whole lot of lighting, and is primarily GPU limited. The worlds and models are low poly, but lighting tricks are used to make it look good. Half-Life 2 is an entirely different beast, and is a whole lot more CPU limited. That WILL cause problems on an Xbox.
Indeed. But what I can't figure out is how they are getting away with this at all. I thought that PIPEDA protected us from this sort of nonsense. A business can't divulge personal information about employees or customers without REALLY GOOD reason, or they risk rather steep fines.
Yes, I realize this. Console games will run on a fraction of the power that a PC game will, because of the console specific programming, and the lack of any other overhead.
However, I sincerely do believe that the Xbox is going to have some rather large problems with it. Two things that really stand out about Half Life 2 is the AI and the physics. Regardless of what else you are running on your CPU, it still comes down to the CPU having to process a great deal of physics and AI.
But I'm sure that we'll see when the game comes out. This is just my nay saying for the time being based on pure speculation. But I am seriously anticipated a game that's completely raped of the charisma it has on the PC.
Well, I honestly don't care about resolution. I run Half Life 2 at 800x600, or 1024x768, depending on my mood. I find that the game actually runs a slight bit faster on 1024x768 for some strange reason.
But my computer was completely killed by the game a short while ago. (Athlon XP 1800+). After a CPU upgrade (Athlon 64 3500+), it purrs like a kitten. I think it's fairly irrelevant what video card you are running. It depends almost entirely on what CPU you have.
And I hardly think that the Xbox's 733MHz Celeron is going to be up to the task.
Heh. Yeah, I did the same thing. But I followed up with downloading 2 different Linux versions, and the Mac version. ;)
I guess he doesn't have much faith in his own product eh?
Well, I pretty much exclusively use bittorrent to get my music. And according to the Canadian Federal Court, that isn't much different than what a library does. And in Canada, music downloading from other people is perfectly legal as well for personal use.
So basically, the way I understand it, you are telling me that I'm a copyright infringer, and the Canadian Federal Court is telling me that I'm not.
In addition, even if you ARE right, the CRIA has virtually no power over me, as my ISP is quite militant about protecting their customers (they were one of the ISPs who refused to give customer names when the CRIA came knocking... and promptly got told to leave us alone by the federal court). So yeah, I think I'm pretty safe.
but what about this?
I mean, honestly. I don't know a single person who's ever BOUGHT a song online. Absolutely everyone I know has a ridiculously huge music collection that's come from napster, bittorrent, kazaa, morpheus, winmx, you name it. Anything but an officially sanctioned music site.
There's no incentive for us. We already pay a tax on our blank media, and downloading and uploading music are perfectly legal in Canada. Somehow I don't think that the online music companies are going to be shaking in their boots at all.
Was cruising through this thread, and didn't see any lists that I thought deserved modding up, so I figured I would post my own list. The problem I had with most of the lists that I saw were that they seemed to come from people who've never played a console game.
Platformer: Mario Bros.
Adventure: The Legend of Zelda
Graphical Adventure: The Secret of Monkey Island
Text Adventure: Zork
Japanese RPG: Dragon Quest
American RPG: A Bard's Tale
MMORPG: Ultima Online
Tactical RPG: Ogre Battle
FPS: Wolfenstein 3D
Sim: Sim City
Flight Sim: Sid Meier's F-19
Space Sim: Wing Commander
Fighting: Street Fighter
Real Time Strategy: Command and Conquer
Turn Based Strategy: Civilization
Puzzle: Tetris
Survival Horror: Resident Evil (or Alone in the Dark)
Sneaking: Metal Gear
Party: Mario Party
Music: Dance Dance Revolution
Racing: No idea, but I will tip my hat to Rad Racer
Sports: Ice Hockey (I'm Canadian)
These of course, are the games that defined their genres. The games that really laid down the track, and defined what the genre was. They might not have been the first, but they were the first of the popular ones, and served as a role model for the rest. I might have forgot a genre or two, but I think I have the majority of them. A few of my categories may be incorrect... especially the last couple, but I think overall, it's a fairly decent list of who's who.
Get a better browser. Install adblock, and remove your spyware. You should not be getting popups on Slashdot, and if you are, it's your own bloody fault.
All you have to figure out now is how to get 20 of the world's prettiest supermodels at your house, and some animal specimens, during the time of this burst, so you could repopulate the earth later.
Well, you could probably save on space a little by just simply keeping about 5 sheep in the house.
They were in limited circulation a few years back. I've gotten them as change a few times in the last couple of years. People know them, and recognize them, but they aren't common at all.
I also have a couple of dollar and two dollar bills around, but not in strong quantity at all.
I see. Thanks for the tip. :) I might just go out and give it a try then on my box.
I know the article says it just went gold, but I know damn well that there's some people here who've tried it. I am just curious... how useable is it?
I tried 64 bit Ubuntu briefly, but I went back to 32 bit after failing to acquire such things as my favorite XMMS plugins (which I never could get compiled and working properly, even in 32 bit, so was forced to get binaries), and 32codecs, and of course, browser plugins.
I would imagine that the video codecs work a lot better in Windows XP, but I would imagine that it would be much similar to Linux in that I would have to run in 32 bit mode in order to actually use most stuff.
I am aware that there's a way of running a 32 bit mode in Linux as well... but it seemed far too complex to actually go through with, and I am too much of a newbie to actually get it working properly.
That's what it's for. April Fool's is a time for every website in the known universe to go nuts. Slashdot is like a big directory for them. I rather enjoy it myself.
Which is why you should use residential open access points with unprotected routers. You can go in afterward, and clean your mac address from the router logs. It COULD be a honeypot, but I think the odds are pretty low.
I personally use a dual shock, as I find that it fits the mold better as a general purpose PC controller when you factor in PSX emulators, and PS2 ports. But I agree with you. I think the SNES controller is still the best thing going for 2D games, and I would buy an adapter myself if I had the funds.