If you are UK based you'll probably remember Tandy - the shop was awesome, computers on display and assistants that had no idea how to undo what you did to them:D
I's say its a mechanical turk implementation of a DDOS!
Spam a bunch of people pretending to be target. A certain percentage of people think e-mail is real and flood legitimate communication channels of said target. (???? / Profit)
I disagree. Christmas tree, Christmas pudding, Christmas Cake. The office Christmas Party. Father Christmas. Christmas decorations, Christmas Lights and most importantly Christmas Shopping!
Fairly sure non of those things have anything to do with 'ickle baby jesus, but I would say they are all fairly traditional for those non-christians.
We also have yule log, but the marketing department for the church really did a number on everything else, kind of backfired for them a bit though.
Heheh good point that! I'm not so sure all of the agnosto-atheists out there are entirely sure on the details though... did Jospeh and Mary get Turkey for dinner then?
A strange irony that christmas has since been co-opted by the non-christian... what goes around...
Perhaps humans are more complex and it won't work the same way. I'm certainly not saying its the chinese government are right - its a pretty ghoulish social experiment - but I wonder if the law of unintended consequences might apply.
Imagine a nation with not only economic superiority, but also a genetic advantage of living in hostile environments!
If you ignore the fact that it runs bash and that its called terminal, and merely focus on the fact that its an app that give you cli, then yes I have dos too.
You aren't even arguing your side very well, if you want to argue that osx has a start menu, then try using the apple menu in the top left of the screen. The one with system preferences, log out, shutdown etc
That would be closer to a start menu, except for the major difference being its not a place that you use for 'starting' apps.
I'm beginning to wonder if you have even used a mac before...
I would have to agree about categorised menus. That is definitely an advantage over search. I have found myself on a couple of occasions being unable to remember what some random app i downloaded was called.
A perfect example would be a disk tree viewer. I could not for the life of me get kdirstat out of my head (it's called disk inventory x for anyone remotely interested!)
I'm running the version of OSX that doesn't have a start menu, it's the one that comes as default on macs. You can grab a copy from the app store if you are interested in trying it out!
It's not a binary choice, if you'd care to give the keyboard a chance you might find some productivity wins lurking there. Like it or not 'desktop search' is one of them, MS dropping the start menu is a big hint. OSX not having one is another.
I was a die hard directory/menu user. Times change, i look back now and wonder what the hell I was doing wasting my time before. if I use it every day its in the dock (safari,mail,calendar,terminal etc) if i don't cmd-space [down] [enter]
This destroys any convoluted menu/submenu tree structure in terms of speed. Of course if you are a hunt and peck typist then this might not be the case. I doubt you are though, on slashdot.
If you are making the call, then they *are* your minutes.
You want to speak to them, you initiate the conversation, you are engaging the services of the telephone operator.
Why on earth should the person receiving the call have any obligation to anyone. By billing the recipient to receive calls they are effectively billing for the same minutes twice.
Most importantly, it prevents people being billed for robocalls.
Your tariff (in the UK at least) outlines the various charges for calling various types of number, if you get a contract phone most of the time you get plenty of minutes, and they usually cover calls to anything other than premium rate.
I just cannot fathom why you would make the innocent recipient of a call liable for charges. It makes no sense. (unless you work for the telco then I can think of 'millions' of reasons)
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If you are UK based you'll probably remember Tandy - the shop was awesome, computers on display and assistants that had no idea how to undo what you did to them :D
10 print "YOUR NAME HERE"
20 goto 10
30 ????
40 Profit.
Best site ever. None of it's successors, invite only or not, ever came close.
Typical "burn the witch" attitude. Surely it would be better to befriend her and second her mystical powers for your own use!
Call themselves 'business'. Pah.
Yeah, and more megapixels makes for a better camera!
I's say its a mechanical turk implementation of a DDOS!
Spam a bunch of people pretending to be target. A certain percentage of people think e-mail is real and flood legitimate communication channels of said target. (???? / Profit)
I disagree. Christmas tree, Christmas pudding, Christmas Cake. The office Christmas Party. Father Christmas. Christmas decorations, Christmas Lights and most importantly Christmas Shopping!
Fairly sure non of those things have anything to do with 'ickle baby jesus, but I would say they are all fairly traditional for those non-christians.
We also have yule log, but the marketing department for the church really did a number on everything else, kind of backfired for them a bit though.
Heheh good point that! I'm not so sure all of the agnosto-atheists out there are entirely sure on the details though... did Jospeh and Mary get Turkey for dinner then?
A strange irony that christmas has since been co-opted by the non-christian... what goes around ...
I wish more people could distinguish more between christmas and christianity ;)
Until this case came up a while back, I didn't have the slightest idea that they were releasing a new OS.
I'd say it has been a resounding success!
Some don't. Doesn;t make for much of a story though that.
One of the requirements (rightly or wrongly) of using non MS products, is that you also have to know how to babysit people who are. e.g.
Save As...
File Type: Mcrosoft Word 97/2000/XP (.doc)
I'm not fat, I'm just a high capacity battery!
Stories of nature finding a way in places thought uninhabitable due to radiation. Of fish that have modified proteins to live in water thought too toxic to sustain lives.
Or not?
Perhaps humans are more complex and it won't work the same way. I'm certainly not saying its the chinese government are right - its a pretty ghoulish social experiment - but I wonder if the law of unintended consequences might apply.
Imagine a nation with not only economic superiority, but also a genetic advantage of living in hostile environments!
So tesla though the best answer to that question was to file a lawsuit? Crazy. Why not just answer the question.
On that same show they showed it went round the test lap the same speed as Porsche 911 GT. Hardly one sided reporting.
Send em another two that don't break. Or are they afraid they might, in which car TG has a point....
Classic head and shoulders pattern. It must be about to tank. Sell! Sell!
Damn, wrong window....
I suppose I also have a dos command prompt.
If you ignore the fact that it runs bash and that its called terminal, and merely focus on the fact that its an app that give you cli, then yes I have dos too.
You aren't even arguing your side very well, if you want to argue that osx has a start menu, then try using the apple menu in the top left of the screen. The one with system preferences, log out, shutdown etc
That would be closer to a start menu, except for the major difference being its not a place that you use for 'starting' apps.
I'm beginning to wonder if you have even used a mac before...
I would have to agree about categorised menus. That is definitely an advantage over search. I have found myself on a couple of occasions being unable to remember what some random app i downloaded was called.
A perfect example would be a disk tree viewer. I could not for the life of me get kdirstat out of my head (it's called disk inventory x for anyone remotely interested!)
I'm running the version of OSX that doesn't have a start menu, it's the one that comes as default on macs. You can grab a copy from the app store if you are interested in trying it out!
* cmd-space <first few characters of app> [down] [enter]
(slashlords swallowed my < >)
It's not a binary choice, if you'd care to give the keyboard a chance you might find some productivity wins lurking there. Like it or not 'desktop search' is one of them, MS dropping the start menu is a big hint. OSX not having one is another.
I was a die hard directory/menu user. Times change, i look back now and wonder what the hell I was doing wasting my time before. if I use it every day its in the dock (safari,mail,calendar,terminal etc) if i don't cmd-space [down] [enter]
This destroys any convoluted menu/submenu tree structure in terms of speed. Of course if you are a hunt and peck typist then this might not be the case. I doubt you are though, on slashdot.
Oh I don't know maybe like this or this, or maybe even this
If you are making the call, then they *are* your minutes.
You want to speak to them, you initiate the conversation, you are engaging the services of the telephone operator.
Why on earth should the person receiving the call have any obligation to anyone. By billing the recipient to receive calls they are effectively billing for the same minutes twice.
Most importantly, it prevents people being billed for robocalls.
Your tariff (in the UK at least) outlines the various charges for calling various types of number, if you get a contract phone most of the time you get plenty of minutes, and they usually cover calls to anything other than premium rate.
I just cannot fathom why you would make the innocent recipient of a call liable for charges. It makes no sense. (unless you work for the telco then I can think of 'millions' of reasons)
The thing is everyone derides them because they didn't do anything new. Car analogy anyone?
They were the first to do it *really well*. That is hard. A lot harder then people seem to realise. That's why they are getting paid now.
It reeks of sour grapes. Don't hate the playa.
Parent said the only reason apple sold anything was marketing. The implication was the product could not stand alone on merit.
I would say that is not the case. Equally that is not the case for Windows, regardless of one's personal OS preference.
Once again, your anecdotal evidence is a masterful triumph over the several billions of dollars of hard sales to the contrary.
Their mac lineup and OSX must surely be terrible too, I haven't figured out whether you'll plump for windows or linux as being the one true way.
Damn, Apple fanboys.