I thought Armstrong had himself later addmitted he messed up the line. The Snopes article on it says so, but then he did it right after listening to a tape of the transmission.
The whole idea of a official/unofficial combo (kind of like staroffice/openoffice.org) is being fought against tooth and nail by the mozilla foundation (and as this is slashdot)
They shouldn't be required to provide an alternate logo/name. It's not Mozilla's job to work around Debian's overzealous definition of "Free". If Debian wants to say "we can't include it unless people are allowed to use it to their heart's content" they need to figure out what they are going to include instead. Debian can't take the copyrighted Firefox logo because it is not free for people to use for their own derivative works. Mozilla wants to protect the logo from that usage because it is a company logo.
Should a company not be allowed to protect a mark that identifies a program as being a product of their creation?
This is what the whole system of branding is based on. How can a consumer judge whether a product is up to the quality standards they expect from a certain company if trademarks and copyrighted logos cannot be protected and anyone can just come along with their new product and stick any name on it they wish?
If Debian applies their own patches to the Firefox source tapball without Mozilla's approval of those patches and then ditributes the package, they are doing exactly what Mozilla doesn't want, protraying a piece of software as Mozilla's work when it may or may not meet the funcationality, quality, and security standards they hold it to (joking about stability and memory leaks aside).
I see that all the time on other websites! Even those that don't exist! Damn those Debian trademark-infringing scalawags!
Add some marketing people to the mix and it all falls into place pretty well.
I actually recognize the "unofficial" logo more readily, but I realize the other is also a Debian logo. If you go to Debain's official site they have the "Debian" text in the header, but the logo is the unoffical one and does not include the bottle. Kinda confusing usage if you ask me.
And I care about movie interactivity why? It's a friggin movie for crying out loud.
It's funny how many people say something like this, then complain when a movie comes out on DVD and it's only one disc and doesn't come with anything more than the theatrical trailers for extras. Even more amusing is that the better the movie itself is the more they expect in the way of extras (LOTR, Blade Runner, ect).
Release multi-rating DVD's. Mom and the kids can watch the movie at PG-13 if they want... Pastor Bob can get it PG rated and grandpa can opt for the R or unrated version. Hey parents can set the kids TV to block R rated stuff (V-Chip) and then get little Timmy a copy of Pitch Black (To go along with his standard PG-13 Chronicles of Riddick) which he can watch at PG-13 until he's older.
What's funny is we don't even need a new player to do something like that. Just add extra DVD scene cuts at the points where you have gore/sex and maybe scenes with alternate audio tracks added if language is that much of an issue. Then have multiple "playlists" for the movie. The lower rated version can simply skip those "naughty" tracks and play the ones with the alternate audio tracks clips for the movie.
I can guarantee you DVDs and successors will never give interactivity where it's most wanted: being able to put the disc in the player and press ONE button ONCE and have it immediately start playing the ACTUAL MOVIE.
Both DVD players in my house do that. Open tray, put in disc, hit PLAY button on front of player, disc starts playing the movie just like I had brought up the main menu screen and chosen "Play Move" from there.
So if (when) SCO goes bankrupt, what are the implications for those companies that use their OS?
If you mean the companies that were dumb/scared enough to pay for the privilage of using SCO Unix, I imagine the companies would have grounds to sue for their licence fees back since they were pruchased based on the idea SCO owned the rights to something they didn't.
But that would assume they can. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some clause in the license that says by purchasing this license you are agreeing to SCO's claims they own Linux, regardless of the outcome of any legal proceedings.
I'm not seeing how that Wired blog supports your statement. It makes no statements whatsoever comparing the Windows to OSX version in terms of ease of use by design. All it notes is that iTunes 7 has issues, and iTunes 6.0.5 is the most popular download on Apple's site right now. Not only that, the post's conclusions are presumptuous and illogical.
From that article:
Considering that Apple's iTunes page encourages vistors to download version 7 of the media player, the stats on the support page suggest that many Windows users are uninstalling iTunes 7 and going back to version 6.0.5.
The download stats say that iTunes 6.0.5 is the most popular download, they don't differentiate between the Mac and PC versions, so there is nothing to prove that the high popularity of version 6.0.5 is attributable to Mac users or PC users, just iTunes users.
Also, the timeframe the downloads are counted in is not listed. iTunes 6.0.5 was available for how many months before iTunes 7? Everybody on the planet is not going to upgrade in the first 24 hrs (I haven't). Unless you want to buy video content or want gapless music playback, there is little reason to download this upgrade. Add ot that people who are avoiding this version because they don't like the interface changes and people whe always wait for the.0.1 release so they can avoid the "new version" bugs.
iTunes 6.0.5 has had a little more time to rack up download stats and will not be unseated until at least that many copies of version 7 are downloaded.
About 30 million people own iPods. But Microsoft owns more than 90% of the worldwide operating systems market (compared with Apple's roughly 5%), representing some 300 million people.
And? So what if Apple only has 5% of the opertaing system market, the iPod is compatable with Windows too, and using it is just as easy as using it with a Mac!
So what we really have is Microsoft's Zune is compatable with 90% of desktop computers and the iPod is compatable with 95% of desktop computers (not counting the Linux users who use third party software to use iPods).
According to Sharp's PR [newlaunches.com], one possible use is as a dashboard display in your car:
So while driving you can see the GPS navigation your kid at the backseat can enjoy Ace Combat on his PS2 while your wife in the passenger seat checks out tourist sites and restaurants all in full-screen view.
Or you could use it for the instrument cluster itself!
"Honey, aren't we driving kinda fast?" "No Dear, as you can see from the speedometer, we're only going 65."
and if my memory serves me right, there is some way to get an up to the minute/second listing of what the world is searching using google?
If I remember a Wired interview from a couple years ago, there is a large display up in Google's headquarters that displays these results in real time. Employees are able to watch the board and track the user to see what the individual actually went to (in the article an individual was Googling for suicide help, and they were able to tell he got to a site that would help him/her).
A roof antenna gets me all that, minus the Ted Turner channels, and I can also record any station without jumping through DRM hoops *and* do so in HD.
Yeah, that's what was going on. Never had cable before. But moved into a new house and found that I got pretty much zero reception for all channels. Some of our neighbors have antannes - on 25 foot poles in their yards. This just seems to be a lousy place for broadcast TV so we went with cable. And I rather enjoy being able to change channels without playing with the rabbit ears like I used to and being able to watch Adult Swim and National Geographic, ect.
Plus, if I didn't have cable service I would have had to pay an extra $10 fee for cable internet.
"The strategy, outlined in China's latest five-year plan, calls for the country to transition its economy from one based almost entirely on manufacturing to one that produces its own scientific and technological breakthroughs -- using a new and improved version of today's dominant innovation platform, the Internet.
Does anyone else think this sounds like the.com bubble version of government? Five year plan to transition from manufacturing to an economy based on becoming a leader in science and technology, and somehow this brain boom will come about thanks to --- the internet? We don't know how but with enough money and effort it will lead to fantastic profits!
hey, if China's economy is going to based off technology innovations and scientific research, guess they'll have to start respecting IP laws, they're entire economy will be based off the enforcement of them.
Here's what I want to see... A HEALTHCARE race between the U.S. and China. Who can get their entire population covered for their biological well-being the fastest?
If those are cable shows, that's a bargain. Nobody gets cable TV for $26/month. If you only like a handful of shows, disconnect the cable service and download them.
I do. You need to inquire about what service is offered below "analog basic" on your local provider. Many have a step that includes mostly the local regular broadcast stations plus CNN, TBS, WGN, and CSPAN and a few others. I have this plus I have internet service through them, which necessitates unblocking some other channels (so I now get MTV, VH1, Food Network, National Geographic and a few others). Bottom line is the only stations I don't have that I wish I did are TNT (which I *did* have when I first got cable, got moved to a higher channel number) and SciFi. I could get both of these if I upgraded to full analog basic, but that would be another $20 for a gain of two stations.
And since I'm not sucked into the gateway drug nonsense of digital, I don't have a stupid external converter box that goes out every other month, and I can freely record any station I want without jumping through DRM hoops.
The problem is not the car companies. The problem is the stupid american people who don't think beofre buying a big gas guzzler. If you don't get at least 30MPG, you are the problem.
Wow, can you maybe make those ratings a little more conditional? Like taking into account that fuel effiency is something that has been improved slowly over time and only people with fairly new vehicles are going to be able to achieve anything like that?
I drive a '94 Honda Accord: Four cylinder, manual transmission - the most fuel efficient for the model year. I get 24 mpg city/and about 28 hwy (based on my own math with gas pump and odometer, I've never driven an entire tank on the highway so it's probably higher). Anyway, many people are driving older vehicles because that's what they can afford, and to stick them to 21st Century mileage requirements is stupid, unless someone's offering to buy them a new car.
note that SUV sales and gas sales have not been negatively impacted by the gasoline increases recently.
WTF? Has the grandparent poster not been watching the news the last several months?
My dad's looking for a used card right now and he's complaining about how all the dealships are getting swamped in SUVs and making it hard to find an affordable car.
California is suing automakers [CC] over global warming. California is claiming that automakers have 'harmed the resources, infrastructure and environmental health,' of the state.
Due to the suit claiming that automakers have harmed Californians' health and evironment with their products, automakers have announced they have no choice but to stop selling cars in the state of California. They immediately followed the announcement with contact information for all the state's legislature and attorney general so citizens could give feedback to their elected officials...:-)
I think most TiVO units have "IR Blasters" which are little dongles that go over the IR port on your cableco's box, and switch the channel and otherwise control it.
I work for a cableco, and the impression I get is more use the s-video port and the TiVo is able to control the box through it.
18-year-old David Banh of Annandale, VA recently graduated from the University of Virginia with a double major in Physics and Mathematics, and an education paid for almost entirely by scholarships. What's truly amazing is that he did it in one year [CC],
I just got an email telling me I could get my degree within a week with credit for my life experience. Who's the underachiever now?!?
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I thought Armstrong had himself later addmitted he messed up the line. The Snopes article on it says so, but then he did it right after listening to a tape of the transmission.
They shouldn't be required to provide an alternate logo/name. It's not Mozilla's job to work around Debian's overzealous definition of "Free". If Debian wants to say "we can't include it unless people are allowed to use it to their heart's content" they need to figure out what they are going to include instead. Debian can't take the copyrighted Firefox logo because it is not free for people to use for their own derivative works. Mozilla wants to protect the logo from that usage because it is a company logo.
Should a company not be allowed to protect a mark that identifies a program as being a product of their creation?
This is what the whole system of branding is based on. How can a consumer judge whether a product is up to the quality standards they expect from a certain company if trademarks and copyrighted logos cannot be protected and anyone can just come along with their new product and stick any name on it they wish?
If Debian applies their own patches to the Firefox source tapball without Mozilla's approval of those patches and then ditributes the package, they are doing exactly what Mozilla doesn't want, protraying a piece of software as Mozilla's work when it may or may not meet the funcationality, quality, and security standards they hold it to (joking about stability and memory leaks aside).
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I see that all the time on other websites! Even those that don't exist! Damn those Debian trademark-infringing scalawags!
I actually recognize the "unofficial" logo more readily, but I realize the other is also a Debian logo. If you go to Debain's official site they have the "Debian" text in the header, but the logo is the unoffical one and does not include the bottle. Kinda confusing usage if you ask me.
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You mean like the highways get filled up with semis and traffic slows to a crawl? Yeah, tubes aren't like highways at all...
It's funny how many people say something like this, then complain when a movie comes out on DVD and it's only one disc and doesn't come with anything more than the theatrical trailers for extras. Even more amusing is that the better the movie itself is the more they expect in the way of extras (LOTR, Blade Runner, ect).
What's funny is we don't even need a new player to do something like that. Just add extra DVD scene cuts at the points where you have gore/sex and maybe scenes with alternate audio tracks added if language is that much of an issue. Then have multiple "playlists" for the movie. The lower rated version can simply skip those "naughty" tracks and play the ones with the alternate audio tracks clips for the movie.
Both DVD players in my house do that. Open tray, put in disc, hit PLAY button on front of player, disc starts playing the movie just like I had brought up the main menu screen and chosen "Play Move" from there.
If you mean the companies that were dumb/scared enough to pay for the privilage of using SCO Unix, I imagine the companies would have grounds to sue for their licence fees back since they were pruchased based on the idea SCO owned the rights to something they didn't.
But that would assume they can. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some clause in the license that says by purchasing this license you are agreeing to SCO's claims they own Linux, regardless of the outcome of any legal proceedings.
I'm not seeing how that Wired blog supports your statement. It makes no statements whatsoever comparing the Windows to OSX version in terms of ease of use by design. All it notes is that iTunes 7 has issues, and iTunes 6.0.5 is the most popular download on Apple's site right now. Not only that, the post's conclusions are presumptuous and illogical.
From that article:
The download stats say that iTunes 6.0.5 is the most popular download, they don't differentiate between the Mac and PC versions, so there is nothing to prove that the high popularity of version 6.0.5 is attributable to Mac users or PC users, just iTunes users.
Also, the timeframe the downloads are counted in is not listed. iTunes 6.0.5 was available for how many months before iTunes 7? Everybody on the planet is not going to upgrade in the first 24 hrs (I haven't). Unless you want to buy video content or want gapless music playback, there is little reason to download this upgrade. Add ot that people who are avoiding this version because they don't like the interface changes and people whe always wait for the
iTunes 6.0.5 has had a little more time to rack up download stats and will not be unseated until at least that many copies of version 7 are downloaded.
And? So what if Apple only has 5% of the opertaing system market, the iPod is compatable with Windows too, and using it is just as easy as using it with a Mac!
So what we really have is Microsoft's Zune is compatable with 90% of desktop computers and the iPod is compatable with 95% of desktop computers (not counting the Linux users who use third party software to use iPods).
But in Soviet Russia, the overlords joke about YOU!
The machine has to be an Intel ViiV-platform PC.
Or you could use it for the instrument cluster itself!
"Honey, aren't we driving kinda fast?"
"No Dear, as you can see from the speedometer, we're only going 65."
If I remember a Wired interview from a couple years ago, there is a large display up in Google's headquarters that displays these results in real time. Employees are able to watch the board and track the user to see what the individual actually went to (in the article an individual was Googling for suicide help, and they were able to tell he got to a site that would help him/her).
I use Tic-Tacs you insensitive clod!
That comment was truly the joule of this entire discussion!
Yeah, that's what was going on. Never had cable before. But moved into a new house and found that I got pretty much zero reception for all channels. Some of our neighbors have antannes - on 25 foot poles in their yards. This just seems to be a lousy place for broadcast TV so we went with cable. And I rather enjoy being able to change channels without playing with the rabbit ears like I used to and being able to watch Adult Swim and National Geographic, ect.
Plus, if I didn't have cable service I would have had to pay an extra $10 fee for cable internet.
Does anyone else think this sounds like the
hey, if China's economy is going to based off technology innovations and scientific research, guess they'll have to start respecting IP laws, they're entire economy will be based off the enforcement of them.
Here's what I want to see... A HEALTHCARE race between the U.S. and China. Who can get their entire population covered for their biological well-being the fastest?
I do. You need to inquire about what service is offered below "analog basic" on your local provider. Many have a step that includes mostly the local regular broadcast stations plus CNN, TBS, WGN, and CSPAN and a few others. I have this plus I have internet service through them, which necessitates unblocking some other channels (so I now get MTV, VH1, Food Network, National Geographic and a few others). Bottom line is the only stations I don't have that I wish I did are TNT (which I *did* have when I first got cable, got moved to a higher channel number) and SciFi. I could get both of these if I upgraded to full analog basic, but that would be another $20 for a gain of two stations.
And since I'm not sucked into the gateway drug nonsense of digital, I don't have a stupid external converter box that goes out every other month, and I can freely record any station I want without jumping through DRM hoops.
Wow, can you maybe make those ratings a little more conditional? Like taking into account that fuel effiency is something that has been improved slowly over time and only people with fairly new vehicles are going to be able to achieve anything like that?
I drive a '94 Honda Accord: Four cylinder, manual transmission - the most fuel efficient for the model year. I get 24 mpg city/and about 28 hwy (based on my own math with gas pump and odometer, I've never driven an entire tank on the highway so it's probably higher). Anyway, many people are driving older vehicles because that's what they can afford, and to stick them to 21st Century mileage requirements is stupid, unless someone's offering to buy them a new car.
WTF? Has the grandparent poster not been watching the news the last several months?
My dad's looking for a used card right now and he's complaining about how all the dealships are getting swamped in SUVs and making it hard to find an affordable car.
Sorry, I meant the serial cable.
Due to the suit claiming that automakers have harmed Californians' health and evironment with their products, automakers have announced they have no choice but to stop selling cars in the state of California. They immediately followed the announcement with contact information for all the state's legislature and attorney general so citizens could give feedback to their elected officials...
I work for a cableco, and the impression I get is more use the s-video port and the TiVo is able to control the box through it.
I just got an email telling me I could get my degree within a week with credit for my life experience. Who's the underachiever now?!?