I think this is great, if only from an academic standpoint. I don't see someone creating an FOSS WoW entry level game here with it, but I do see this being a big boon to developers looking at the code to learn how to code something like this. It could actually spawn a lot of specialized mini-mmo's too.
Kudos to whoever was involved in making this happen.
Appreciate hearing from one of MekTek guys, thanks for the info. Frankly, yes, MTX is complete crap. However I'm still grateful for the work you guys have done in getting this out! Much appreciated.
Most people I know that got compromised were compromised via ad's. So I have zero sympathy. Sorry but me avoding getting a computer compromised is more important then some random web admin losing ad funds.
Web based advertising has to do a HELL of a lot of work to regain my trust before I'll open it back up. I don't care about ad's much if they're not in my face, but I'm not going to risk a compromised computer so you can get 3 cents a pageview.
If I'm fired and they demand the passwords your damn right i'm going to give up the passwords. And if it's someone incompetant that doesn't know what they're doing, who the hell cares? It's not my problem or job to care about that any longer.
All this has gone to show is that if you have information required by your previous employer and you refuse (and no, I don't think being in a coma equals refuse) to divulge it on the grounds you don't feel they are worthy enough.. then you get what's coming to you. You seriously think a jury is going to convict someone for not giving passwords up because they're in a coma? Good grief...
Besides if Terry is so freakin smart, why didn't he do basic 101 Sys Admin - ensure there wasn't a Single Point of Failure so that in this case they didn't need him. If your job survival strategy is to ensure you cannot be replaced... well.. your dumb. Sorry.
Yeah it looks like it will take a bunch of poking around to get something "just right". It's interesting to hear WordPress is more then just a blog, perhaps I'll have to take a look at it too. Last night I played around with Drupal, I think the only thing really keeping me on it is the theme I found. Other then that it seems to have some seriously rough edges, far rougher then Joomla. I can see how it scales better, but I think it's a tad rougher then what I want.
Ugh.. no that's not a comment on what you wrote, but more about myself. In fact consider this a thanks for the link. Wish this article was posted a few weeks earlier.. Long winded reply follows:
As someone who always "did it myself" I recently got tired of having to deal with this problem with my server, or that, or not wanting it left running 24x7 when I'm away for a week. Plus I'm trying to focus on non web development stuff so don't really have a lot of time to roll my own server. I finally broke down and got a real domain name and a real web hosting provider. I did a quick google, and from what I could tell Joomla was the easiest way to get my personal site up and running.
However I found most of what is written by the commenters.. Joomla is confusing and a PITA. I assumed this was the price I was paying for not "rolling my own" as i usually like to do. I do have it functional and working how I wanted.. but it's only been about a week and I'm already looking at alternatives. First I've heard of Xoop I'll have to take a poke at it, thanks! If there's other alternatives out there I'd love to hear them too:-)
Wowa, shoulda guessed that I'd see Banyan pop up on a discussion about OS/2. Suprised to hear someone out there still uses Vines, it was a really good system... back in it's day.
That's like saying nobody uses Microsoft Windows because only a few few hundred (thousand?) people built the software. It's typical that the content providers are a smaller group then the content consumers. People like Xiaomi are likely your "hardcore" group, the group that feels the strongest about it and which always makes up the smallest %.
I wouldn't really judge 3D by Clash.. the way that was done, after the fact and cheaply, is a poor example of how to do 3D. I went into Avatar expecting to NOT be blown away by the 3D, I always thought I was in the "12%" due to the fact I could never do those "look at these lines and see a picture jump out at you" thing. However I was very VERY impressed with 3D. Judging by the comments here, I guess that gives me poor taste in movies, but whatever I enjoyed it. I'd prefer watching 3D without glasses but in a theatre environment I didn't mind.
However Clash was horrible. Taking the glasses off part way through, most scenes didn't even look any different. I read one article which basically said if they continue doing 3D like Clash, then 3D is dead.
Can't check out the article from here, but what's the percent of failure rate? 10? 20? 50? Can't be 100, mine's running fine. As are several reports here in Slashdot. Or is this just standard wear and tear numbers?
It seems like this sort of thing always turns into a damn holy war, same thing happened with the 360, and until I started seeing consistant numbers reported from several sources I doubted just how high those were, too. As someone who's had no problems, maybe this is the usual "squeeky wheel gets the grease" scenario. I know it's cool to hate Sony and everything, but yesh.
Because not all of us want to have to always play with others? Some of us, probably the older ones here, actually LIKE the single player experience. It's not a waste. God of War is fun single player. Final Fantasy is fun single player. Portal is fun single player. Half Life 2 is fun single player. Multiplayer is fun too, yes, but I don't want it ALL THE FREAKING TIME.
The problem isn't "NOT ENOUGH MULTIPLAYER!!!" The problem is we now have mega corporations who expect INSANE profits. The summary where it talks about expecting your product to be niece.. that's the right direction.
I concur. I play an MMO and that eats up a LOT of the time I set aside for gaming. It's not true in every instance, but I think it's a piece that needs to be addressed, along with piracy etc. Frankly I really want to play Dragons Age, but between MMO and some Console games that I place higher on the must play list, I haven't yet.
A more direct response to the summary - Frankly I completely agree with it, and it bothers me not one bit. When I think of the best PC Games back in the day.. like Wing Commander, C&C1, Ultima, Kings Quest, Space Quest, etc etc... these were not the mega-corporations that we have today. At least for someone small that wants to get into gaming development, the PC financial startup costs are basically 0.
So if some guy, drunk, jumps in front of my car after hiding behind two parked cars, and i hit and kill him going 10km/h under the speed limit.. I'm still at fault?
Did YOU take drivers training? Granted I'm not American, so maybe you guys do, in fact, have really dumb laws in this regard.
In the last few months i've been working on reteaching myself C++, as well as using SDL and OpenGL for writing a "tactics" style game (as a way to learn this stuff). I used both code from LazyFoo and NeHe for most of what I learned, and google for everything else. It's worked fairly well, I got a nice framework for writing a GUI and already have a lot of the graphics work going for the game itself, now I'm just looking at writing my own 3d model loader for some more complex stuff.
I honestly found the most complex part, so far, to be font rendering. I ended up sticking with SDL's ttf library for that.
Although I don't consider myself even remotely an expert on any of this, since you seem to be where I was a few months ago if you have any questions feel free to ask.
I've recently had to reinstall Windows at home as well. This time I'm trying out Windows 7's XP Mode. Since it hides the Desktop and integrates the app (in this case Firefox with NoScript) to Windows 7 other then a few seconds extra to start the app it seems to work decent enough. Reminds me a lot of Parallel's on my Mac.
Inside the VM I have the AV, Anti Spyware, and Firewall running. But when I shut down the browser the system isn't bogged down with such crap. Takes up more resources while the browser is up, but less when it's not.
Will see how it goes but I think it might be a nice way of getting the best of both worlds. Just a thought.
"encourage people to not be religious"... "encourage people to think for themselves"
So basically you believe that by encouraging one way to think and discouraging other ways of thinking... that this will encourage people to think for themselves? How about, oh I don't know, stop trying to use the government to force your own views upon others? How about being tolerant?
Since when did "Atheism" become an intollerant religion? Hell it sounds like the reading someone would have used in the Colonial days as justification for forcing the Native Americans into Christianity.
So hard to say.. when the Wii came out it went from wtf is Nintendo smoking, to ZOMG the games will be amazing to... somewhere in between. It really comes down to the games, right now I'm not going to go out and buy either the Move or Natal until I see the games and how they make use of it. If it actually add's to the fun and isn't a gimmick i'll go for it.
Right now I haven't seen anything demo'ed with Natal that makes me go must buy. Amazingly cool tech yes, but still waiting for the "killer app". Same with the Move.
Ya except most people I know that play MMO's play maybe 1 or 2 MMO's, and I'm assuming OnLive is expecting people to buy more then 1-2 games over a few year period.
Man, I would actually love to work for a large company that would accept OpenSource as a POSSIBLE solution, right now it's kicked to the curb on mention.
Going into a meeting probably next week to discuss Subversion, they feel it would be a security risk since it's Free Software. Nevermind that the platform is Solaris and their baby, VSS, probably won't like running on a *NIX system much.
Glad I'm not the only one that experienced that.. only played FF7 on the PC, it was the first FF game I owned. What a wretched port, although I did end up enjoying it after training myself to guess what buttons did what when they said triangle.
Interesting about Square deleting the original code and using an emulator for 8... would love to read more on that if you have any info.
When I read "unblocking 200 ports", and I could be wrong, I see that as something you do on a Router. Something that you have to do for both PC's and Consoles.
So although I appreciate the lengthy well thought out explaning why PC gaming sucks and console gaming is pure and simple.. I don't think it's all that applicable here. Of course it could be I am misunderstanding the 200 ports thing too.. lack of coffee can do that.
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Thank you for proving that no matter WHAT someone does, someone, somewhere, is going to complain about it.
*Looks at my office, with everyone having at least one PC per desk.*
*Looks across the street to the other businesses, where everyone has a PC at their desk.*
*Thinks to my own house with a computer, parents who have 2 computers, sister's family that has 2 computers, friends that have computers...*
Man, your right, if by niche you mean EVERYONE.
I think this is great, if only from an academic standpoint. I don't see someone creating an FOSS WoW entry level game here with it, but I do see this being a big boon to developers looking at the code to learn how to code something like this. It could actually spawn a lot of specialized mini-mmo's too.
Kudos to whoever was involved in making this happen.
Appreciate hearing from one of MekTek guys, thanks for the info. Frankly, yes, MTX is complete crap. However I'm still grateful for the work you guys have done in getting this out! Much appreciated.
Most people I know that got compromised were compromised via ad's. So I have zero sympathy. Sorry but me avoding getting a computer compromised is more important then some random web admin losing ad funds.
Web based advertising has to do a HELL of a lot of work to regain my trust before I'll open it back up. I don't care about ad's much if they're not in my face, but I'm not going to risk a compromised computer so you can get 3 cents a pageview.
Oh please....
If I'm fired and they demand the passwords your damn right i'm going to give up the passwords. And if it's someone incompetant that doesn't know what they're doing, who the hell cares? It's not my problem or job to care about that any longer.
All this has gone to show is that if you have information required by your previous employer and you refuse (and no, I don't think being in a coma equals refuse) to divulge it on the grounds you don't feel they are worthy enough.. then you get what's coming to you. You seriously think a jury is going to convict someone for not giving passwords up because they're in a coma? Good grief...
Besides if Terry is so freakin smart, why didn't he do basic 101 Sys Admin - ensure there wasn't a Single Point of Failure so that in this case they didn't need him. If your job survival strategy is to ensure you cannot be replaced... well.. your dumb. Sorry.
Yeah it looks like it will take a bunch of poking around to get something "just right". It's interesting to hear WordPress is more then just a blog, perhaps I'll have to take a look at it too. Last night I played around with Drupal, I think the only thing really keeping me on it is the theme I found. Other then that it seems to have some seriously rough edges, far rougher then Joomla. I can see how it scales better, but I think it's a tad rougher then what I want.
Ugh.. no that's not a comment on what you wrote, but more about myself. In fact consider this a thanks for the link. Wish this article was posted a few weeks earlier.. Long winded reply follows:
As someone who always "did it myself" I recently got tired of having to deal with this problem with my server, or that, or not wanting it left running 24x7 when I'm away for a week. Plus I'm trying to focus on non web development stuff so don't really have a lot of time to roll my own server. I finally broke down and got a real domain name and a real web hosting provider. I did a quick google, and from what I could tell Joomla was the easiest way to get my personal site up and running.
However I found most of what is written by the commenters.. Joomla is confusing and a PITA. I assumed this was the price I was paying for not "rolling my own" as i usually like to do. I do have it functional and working how I wanted.. but it's only been about a week and I'm already looking at alternatives. First I've heard of Xoop I'll have to take a poke at it, thanks! If there's other alternatives out there I'd love to hear them too :-)
Wowa, shoulda guessed that I'd see Banyan pop up on a discussion about OS/2. Suprised to hear someone out there still uses Vines, it was a really good system... back in it's day.
That's like saying nobody uses Microsoft Windows because only a few few hundred (thousand?) people built the software. It's typical that the content providers are a smaller group then the content consumers. People like Xiaomi are likely your "hardcore" group, the group that feels the strongest about it and which always makes up the smallest %.
Most people consume media, not distribute it.
I wouldn't really judge 3D by Clash.. the way that was done, after the fact and cheaply, is a poor example of how to do 3D. I went into Avatar expecting to NOT be blown away by the 3D, I always thought I was in the "12%" due to the fact I could never do those "look at these lines and see a picture jump out at you" thing. However I was very VERY impressed with 3D. Judging by the comments here, I guess that gives me poor taste in movies, but whatever I enjoyed it. I'd prefer watching 3D without glasses but in a theatre environment I didn't mind.
However Clash was horrible. Taking the glasses off part way through, most scenes didn't even look any different. I read one article which basically said if they continue doing 3D like Clash, then 3D is dead.
Why does the summary say "May Be Sharing" while the Title indicates this has already happened?
Can't check out the article from here, but what's the percent of failure rate? 10? 20? 50? Can't be 100, mine's running fine. As are several reports here in Slashdot. Or is this just standard wear and tear numbers?
It seems like this sort of thing always turns into a damn holy war, same thing happened with the 360, and until I started seeing consistant numbers reported from several sources I doubted just how high those were, too. As someone who's had no problems, maybe this is the usual "squeeky wheel gets the grease" scenario. I know it's cool to hate Sony and everything, but yesh.
Because not all of us want to have to always play with others? Some of us, probably the older ones here, actually LIKE the single player experience. It's not a waste. God of War is fun single player. Final Fantasy is fun single player. Portal is fun single player. Half Life 2 is fun single player. Multiplayer is fun too, yes, but I don't want it ALL THE FREAKING TIME.
The problem isn't "NOT ENOUGH MULTIPLAYER!!!" The problem is we now have mega corporations who expect INSANE profits. The summary where it talks about expecting your product to be niece.. that's the right direction.
I concur. I play an MMO and that eats up a LOT of the time I set aside for gaming. It's not true in every instance, but I think it's a piece that needs to be addressed, along with piracy etc. Frankly I really want to play Dragons Age, but between MMO and some Console games that I place higher on the must play list, I haven't yet.
A more direct response to the summary - Frankly I completely agree with it, and it bothers me not one bit. When I think of the best PC Games back in the day.. like Wing Commander, C&C1, Ultima, Kings Quest, Space Quest, etc etc... these were not the mega-corporations that we have today. At least for someone small that wants to get into gaming development, the PC financial startup costs are basically 0.
So if some guy, drunk, jumps in front of my car after hiding behind two parked cars, and i hit and kill him going 10km/h under the speed limit.. I'm still at fault?
Did YOU take drivers training? Granted I'm not American, so maybe you guys do, in fact, have really dumb laws in this regard.
In the last few months i've been working on reteaching myself C++, as well as using SDL and OpenGL for writing a "tactics" style game (as a way to learn this stuff). I used both code from LazyFoo and NeHe for most of what I learned, and google for everything else. It's worked fairly well, I got a nice framework for writing a GUI and already have a lot of the graphics work going for the game itself, now I'm just looking at writing my own 3d model loader for some more complex stuff.
I honestly found the most complex part, so far, to be font rendering. I ended up sticking with SDL's ttf library for that.
Although I don't consider myself even remotely an expert on any of this, since you seem to be where I was a few months ago if you have any questions feel free to ask.
I've recently had to reinstall Windows at home as well. This time I'm trying out Windows 7's XP Mode. Since it hides the Desktop and integrates the app (in this case Firefox with NoScript) to Windows 7 other then a few seconds extra to start the app it seems to work decent enough. Reminds me a lot of Parallel's on my Mac.
Inside the VM I have the AV, Anti Spyware, and Firewall running. But when I shut down the browser the system isn't bogged down with such crap. Takes up more resources while the browser is up, but less when it's not.
Will see how it goes but I think it might be a nice way of getting the best of both worlds. Just a thought.
"encourage people to not be religious"... "encourage people to think for themselves"
So basically you believe that by encouraging one way to think and discouraging other ways of thinking... that this will encourage people to think for themselves? How about, oh I don't know, stop trying to use the government to force your own views upon others? How about being tolerant?
Since when did "Atheism" become an intollerant religion? Hell it sounds like the reading someone would have used in the Colonial days as justification for forcing the Native Americans into Christianity.
Telefragging? Suddenly have the urge to fire up Doom...
So hard to say.. when the Wii came out it went from wtf is Nintendo smoking, to ZOMG the games will be amazing to... somewhere in between. It really comes down to the games, right now I'm not going to go out and buy either the Move or Natal until I see the games and how they make use of it. If it actually add's to the fun and isn't a gimmick i'll go for it.
Right now I haven't seen anything demo'ed with Natal that makes me go must buy. Amazingly cool tech yes, but still waiting for the "killer app". Same with the Move.
Ya except most people I know that play MMO's play maybe 1 or 2 MMO's, and I'm assuming OnLive is expecting people to buy more then 1-2 games over a few year period.
Man, I would actually love to work for a large company that would accept OpenSource as a POSSIBLE solution, right now it's kicked to the curb on mention.
Going into a meeting probably next week to discuss Subversion, they feel it would be a security risk since it's Free Software. Nevermind that the platform is Solaris and their baby, VSS, probably won't like running on a *NIX system much.
Glad I'm not the only one that experienced that.. only played FF7 on the PC, it was the first FF game I owned. What a wretched port, although I did end up enjoying it after training myself to guess what buttons did what when they said triangle.
Interesting about Square deleting the original code and using an emulator for 8... would love to read more on that if you have any info.
When I read "unblocking 200 ports", and I could be wrong, I see that as something you do on a Router. Something that you have to do for both PC's and Consoles.
So although I appreciate the lengthy well thought out explaning why PC gaming sucks and console gaming is pure and simple.. I don't think it's all that applicable here. Of course it could be I am misunderstanding the 200 ports thing too.. lack of coffee can do that.