*sigh* Yes. We know. We know that for that price, many./'s could roll their own, but we don't have to hear that every darn time. Because every darn time that means some sucker like me has to point out that they're not marketing the product to you. They're marketing to money-rich, time-poor folks who don't want to build their own, they want to splash down the cash for something that just *works*.
It's like saying: £1.20 for eggs! For that money I could raise my own chickens & save a few ££s.. £5 for cigarettes! For that money I can grow my own tobacco! I really could go on all day here..
Oh please..
I appreciate the sarcasm as much as the next man, but this is news. This is news for nerds. I'm a nerd and use Symantec on our worldwide LAN.
It's one of hundreds of products we use, so I don't visit the manufacturers site every day. If/. wants to make a story about Symantec launching a new Anti-spyware product, then I'm happy as larry. Especially as I get to read opinions on Symantec from IT professionals from around the world.
It's easy to bash./ for reprinting press releases, but it's tremendously useful sometimes.
I thought you were the model employee, with your electronic calculator & computer love. Instead I find you doing the boing boom tschak under the neon lights of the electric cafe!
Tsk. That's it. I'm going to replace you with the robots.
Looking at the comments in the article they're almost all from England or Scotland, ..and Wales, from who's glittering capital city this study came from in the first place, you insensitive clod!
I should've stated that webservers et al have all the necessary stuff & ting open to allow connections. It's workstations that haven't been Nat'd yet that we'd rather not reply to echo requests.
There are several reasons we're rolling out Symantec's personal firewall to desktop PC's.
1. Security in depth. Multilayered security = A Good Thing.
2. True, there shouldn't be ports we don't know about on user's PC's, but how about when they pop one open without knowing? They can't download or receive numerous file types & their peripherals are disabled, but users will be users. I've seen programs installed that install telnet or tftp servers. A decent personal firewall setup will alert the user *and* log that alert to a central console.
3. Mistakes happen. A nameless colleague quit-out halfway through creating a firewall rule. The default action is to create the rule regardless, so for 20 minutes a bunch of workstations were waaaay more accessible than they should be. Worms were spotted.
4. It's disastrous to think "We've got a firewall, ergo we're secure" (see above). Common example: User sits in internet cafe with laptop, some floppies, usb devices & cd rom. Effectively spreads legs & asks the world to infect him. Next day, brings laptop back & jacks into the LAN. My sturdy firewall is now worth jack. Personal firewalls all round, please.
5. And yes, I do filter ICMP. I'm sorry that you have to wait 60 seconds for your pings or whatever to fail, but I have to ask why were you scanning my LAN? You want me to turn on file&printer sharing too, so you can see what else is going on? It's my LAN, & within it I'll do whatever I can to keep it secure. Guess what - I run some web services.......and they're not on port 80...!
As far I'm concerned there are valid reasons to run personal firewalls on the desktop. Hand-in-hand with user education, security policies, patch management and effective anti-virus solutions they provide a robust & proven security benefit.
You're damn right I don't trust my computer. And I won't do until I control all access in and out, and it tells me when something tries to except those rules. Oh, wait! It does. It's my personal firewall.
That's right. Don't blame him - blame the editors. Stupid editors thought us europeans might like to know of a techy store that's started up. Stupid editors thought us europeans might be longing for thinkgeek material but blanching at the horrendous shipping costs & problems. Yeah, stupid editors. I, for one, thank them.
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We know. We know many of us can build it cheaper, better, faster ourselves. It's therefore redundant to tell us all.
Good job you stopped yourself before you let slip about your secret stash of porky the pig erotic fan fiction...
*sigh* Yes. We know. We know that for that price, many ./'s could roll their own, but we don't have to hear that every darn time. Because every darn time that means some sucker like me has to point out that they're not marketing the product to you. They're marketing to money-rich, time-poor folks who don't want to build their own, they want to splash down the cash for something that just *works*.
It's like saying: £1.20 for eggs! For that money I could raise my own chickens & save a few ££s.. £5 for cigarettes! For that money I can grow my own tobacco!
I really could go on all day here..
Ok - so this prolly isn't enough for the DOD, but in our environment, I was able to shut down the USB services on a Win2k box with this .reg script:
i ces\USBSTOR]
i ces\USBHUB]
.reg, and change the 4's to 3s'.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Serv
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Serv
"Start"=dword:00000004
To re-enable USB, create another
HTH
Yeah, like one of
"October 18, 2004", "unveiled prototypes", "Commercial products are probably in the middle of the three to eight year time zone"
those..
Or, from the article, and perhaps of more interest to us:
"flexible computer screens that could be rolled into a sack"
Haven't we been promised this for years? I wanna roll up my computer screen & carry it into my flying car!
uknova.com is your friend.. :)
I appreciate the sarcasm as much as the next man, but this is news. This is news for nerds.
I'm a nerd and use Symantec on our worldwide LAN. It's one of hundreds of products we use, so I don't visit the manufacturers site every day.
If
Especially as I get to read opinions on Symantec from IT professionals from around the world.
It's easy to bash ./ for reprinting press releases, but it's tremendously useful sometimes.
----------- :)
*and... relax.*
I thought you were the model employee,
with your electronic calculator & computer love.
Instead I find you doing the boing boom tschak
under the neon lights of the electric cafe!
Tsk. That's it. I'm going to replace you with the robots.
un-huh. How does BBC 6 o'clock news fit in to your theory? No advert breaks at all! :)
fyi, England =/= Britain.
Looking at the comments in the article they're almost all from England or Scotland,
..and Wales, from who's glittering capital city this study came from in the first place, you insensitive clod!
I'm not sure even SCO think they own the gravity local to their offices...
*ahem*
That'll be whales, then..
Yours, from Cardiff
:)
We can only presume the pages of the report are stuck together..
So - are we seeing more, or less adverts than our tv-watching brethren..?
Anyone else picturing all their pixels sliding down to the corner of the screen in a pink mess..?
I'm too lazy to do the math - can someone tell me what 7 x 0 is..?
I should've stated that webservers et al have all the necessary stuff & ting open to allow connections. It's workstations that haven't been Nat'd yet that we'd rather not reply to echo requests.
Thx
1. Security in depth. Multilayered security = A Good Thing. ...and they're not on port 80...!
2. True, there shouldn't be ports we don't know about on user's PC's, but how about when they pop one open without knowing? They can't download or receive numerous file types & their peripherals are disabled, but users will be users. I've seen programs installed that install telnet or tftp servers. A decent personal firewall setup will alert the user *and* log that alert to a central console.
3. Mistakes happen. A nameless colleague quit-out halfway through creating a firewall rule. The default action is to create the rule regardless, so for 20 minutes a bunch of workstations were waaaay more accessible than they should be. Worms were spotted.
4. It's disastrous to think "We've got a firewall, ergo we're secure" (see above). Common example: User sits in internet cafe with laptop, some floppies, usb devices & cd rom. Effectively spreads legs & asks the world to infect him. Next day, brings laptop back & jacks into the LAN. My sturdy firewall is now worth jack. Personal firewalls all round, please.
5. And yes, I do filter ICMP. I'm sorry that you have to wait 60 seconds for your pings or whatever to fail, but I have to ask why were you scanning my LAN? You want me to turn on file&printer sharing too, so you can see what else is going on? It's my LAN, & within it I'll do whatever I can to keep it secure. Guess what - I run some web services....
As far I'm concerned there are valid reasons to run personal firewalls on the desktop.
Hand-in-hand with user education, security policies, patch management and effective anti-virus solutions they provide a robust & proven security benefit.
You're damn right I don't trust my computer. And I won't do until I control all access in and out, and it tells me when something tries to except those rules. Oh, wait! It does. It's my personal firewall.
Stupid editors thought us europeans might like to know of a techy store that's started up.
Stupid editors thought us europeans might be longing for thinkgeek material but blanching at the horrendous shipping costs & problems.
Yeah, stupid editors. I, for one, thank them.
Step one, broaden your horizons.
Step two, enlightenment.
You ever *used* Zenworks?
Then shut the fuck up.
Your useless comments help nobody.
No, I'm not affiliated with Novell, but a CNA who's been admin'ing Zenworks for 4 years.
And dumbass I ain't.
Created on..............: Wed, May 08, 2002
Now there's some foward planning!
I mean, I guess I should've known, but I didn't expect the font size to be so damned *large*!
(Not, of course that anyone would waste work time by reading
I'm pretty sure it's actually "..wappers do"