All bean counters want to measure there human assets in terms of ROI. I too am faced with the same question every FY. Bottom line is that Sysadmins offer no ROI. If you are doing your job well, nobody knows you're there. if you don't, and here is the clue, everyone knows you're there and it is at that point that you can both show your "ROI" AND highlight that you are understaffed.
You see, they will cut back where there is no squeak. Kinda like buying a car but deliberately omitting the spark plugs.
Anyway if you want to count on the ROI taley, quit doing such a good job.
I agree,
I don't want weekend warriors trying to be cool because they attempted to install Linux only to have them blame Linux for their own short comings. It seems that our entire world is money and market driven. Given that directX is at the heart of most games and owned by MS, the likely hood that many games will be ported to Linux is small. The things that dive Linux, as mentioned, are Geekisms and Corporate requirements. Geeks aren't impressed by fru-fru frills to the same degree as people that spend time watching "Everybody loves Raymond." So, no love there. What Corporations want has nothing to do with Raymond and everything to do with mitigating risk and reducing cost - something that Linux is well suited for.
So, if the largest stakeholders in Linux don't have any interest in making Linux "Raymond" friendly, is it still a bad thing if Raymond doesn't like Linux?
Has anyone asked who sponsored the original article? (MS maybe)
I agree completely. I've been a sysadmin for 15 years and the one thing that still amazes me is the weekend warrior that found a Knoppix DVD and suddenly he's an expert. What makes it worse is when that weekend groupie mentality is indulged in by local management. They spent 8 weeks building their home PC with Fedora and learned all things sysadmin in the process. AND they still spell perl pearl.
The one thing that has remained true over the years is this: When they need us, they'll call and when they do, they'll be grateful we were there to save their a**es. AGAIN.
Used to play with stuff like this when I was a kid.
Mix corn starch and water together ( heavy on the Corn Starch).
The stuff is solid as a rock when sudden force is applied but
freely flows in the absence of resistence.
Did you miss the point. Have you even graduated yet. Have you even had the chance to work for someone who doesn't know your name after 2 years. Grow up.
I'm not the guy who posted the original message but I have lived his experience elsewhere.
If the pricetag for one third of your life is measured only by money, you come rather cheaply.
I use Gentoo at home as well as an enterprise (someone please define) server. Gentoo is uniquely qualified as a single or finite purpose server. I have several Gentoo boxes providing a range of services from firewall to mail and one central portage host.
But, alas, it's not your fathers Olsmobile. When my mother inlaw asked me to put linux on her machine, WhiteBox was the obvious choice.
We have two voting systems in this country. The original is broken.
Gore might have had the popular vote, but the electoral college is there for a reason; whether that reason is valid, of course, is up for debate.
In a state where little brother is governer?
This is obvious corruption. But enough of that. I am an American and I have watched the selling of America for 43 years. My conclusion is that "we get what we pay for." If we don't vote - and only 16 percent of us do - then WE the people are not on control. But then this is, so far, only about the system that's broken...
As we see here on/. there is a greate deal of mis-guided patriotism. We claim that "true" americans buy only US products and as soon as we log out we run to WAL Mart to buy Chinese products. This would be the second voting system and the one with the most potential. Voting with dollars works. Just look at the change in our food supply brought on by Atkins. It changed because people bought and it changed fast. The market runs not just america but the entire world and power will always side with the money. We can argue our ideals but, unless we start dealing with what is, we as the people of the US or EU will continue to be subjegated by those who do.
Our corperations got the way they are because we kept buying/voting.
I am not anti-american. I love my country and her people. I do fear that they have lost sight of their true enemy - the intoxication brought on by satisfied greed.
Outsourcing is not a clear cut issue.
To qoute another posting:"tough, adapt or die."
Jobs get "outsourced" overseas because nobody's doing that job here or they're charging too much.
Try not buying that companies service anymore.( dollar voting)
As an European, I'd like to point out that Europe and the whole world would have been a lot more fucked up if it wasn't for the Americans.
Thank you. My country is feeling a bit ill of late but we're working on it. One of our forefathers put it quite well - Patrick Henry I think - when he said this:
"My country right or wrong. When right to keep her right, when wrong to put her right, but my country right or wrong"
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How can these two words be used in the same paragraph?
All bean counters want to measure there human assets in terms of ROI. I too am faced with the same question every FY. Bottom line is that Sysadmins offer no ROI. If you are doing your job well, nobody knows you're there. if you don't, and here is the clue, everyone knows you're there and it is at that point that you can both show your "ROI" AND highlight that you are understaffed. You see, they will cut back where there is no squeak. Kinda like buying a car but deliberately omitting the spark plugs. Anyway if you want to count on the ROI taley, quit doing such a good job.
I agree, I don't want weekend warriors trying to be cool because they attempted to install Linux only to have them blame Linux for their own short comings. It seems that our entire world is money and market driven. Given that directX is at the heart of most games and owned by MS, the likely hood that many games will be ported to Linux is small. The things that dive Linux, as mentioned, are Geekisms and Corporate requirements. Geeks aren't impressed by fru-fru frills to the same degree as people that spend time watching "Everybody loves Raymond." So, no love there. What Corporations want has nothing to do with Raymond and everything to do with mitigating risk and reducing cost - something that Linux is well suited for. So, if the largest stakeholders in Linux don't have any interest in making Linux "Raymond" friendly, is it still a bad thing if Raymond doesn't like Linux? Has anyone asked who sponsored the original article? (MS maybe)
I agree completely. I've been a sysadmin for 15 years and the one thing that still amazes me is the weekend warrior that found a Knoppix DVD and suddenly he's an expert. What makes it worse is when that weekend groupie mentality is indulged in by local management. They spent 8 weeks building their home PC with Fedora and learned all things sysadmin in the process. AND they still spell perl pearl. The one thing that has remained true over the years is this: When they need us, they'll call and when they do, they'll be grateful we were there to save their a**es. AGAIN.
Used to play with stuff like this when I was a kid.
Mix corn starch and water together ( heavy on the Corn Starch).
The stuff is solid as a rock when sudden force is applied but
freely flows in the absence of resistence.
1) Install kernel source
/etc/fstab
2) configure to required FS
3) compile
4) install
5) configure
6) reboot
7) stop whining
The weird scenario is if Bush is sworn in and afterwards it is discovered that Kerry won. What then?
Bush would remain in the white house as he did when
we found, several months later, that Gore won Fla.
Again!
Did bush win?
Or did he fool just enough of them?
Are fat fingers considered a bug?
Can't seem to find that one.
And this is your mind on microsoft...
Any questions?
True.
Programmers will, by nature of the tasking, make all other professions redundant before their own.
After all, isn't that what they get paid for?
Did you miss the point. Have you even graduated yet. Have you even had the chance to work for someone who doesn't know your name after 2 years. Grow up.
I'm not the guy who posted the original message but I have lived his experience elsewhere.
If the pricetag for one third of your life is measured only by money, you come rather cheaply.
That's all. Just my 2 cents.
If I was running pirated MS software...
I'd start lookin real hard at linux.
Thanks MS for fleshing out more of those who believe in freely distributed software.
Looks like TS.
Smells like TS.
Must be... TS
I wonder if they get a tax write off for waisting R&D money like that.
Kinda looks like someone forgot ipv6.
*ixs doit. Switches doit. Even the one with the blue screens can doit.
What's the problem?
Does this tactic really work?
It's like looking for WMD "...we need more time to find what we've been claiming..."
I use Gentoo at home as well as an enterprise (someone please define) server. Gentoo is uniquely qualified as a single or finite purpose server. I have several Gentoo boxes providing a range of services from firewall to mail and one central portage host.
But, alas, it's not your fathers Olsmobile. When my mother inlaw asked me to put linux on her machine, WhiteBox was the obvious choice.
Right Tool for Right Job!
'tsallinux, 'tsalgood.
If I come up with a solution for a problem am I supposted to forget the solution and never use it again if I go elsewhere?
The jury will disregard the last statement!
We have two voting systems in this country. The original is broken.
In a state where little brother is governer?
This is obvious corruption. But enough of that. I am an American and I have watched the selling of America for 43 years. My conclusion is that "we get what we pay for." If we don't vote - and only 16 percent of us do - then WE the people are not on control. But then this is, so far, only about the system that's broken...
As we see here on /. there is a greate deal of mis-guided patriotism. We claim that "true" americans buy only US products and as soon as we log out we run to WAL Mart to buy Chinese products. This would be the second voting system and the one with the most potential. Voting with dollars works. Just look at the change in our food supply brought on by Atkins. It changed because people bought and it changed fast. The market runs not just america but the entire world and power will always side with the money. We can argue our ideals but, unless we start dealing with what is, we as the people of the US or EU will continue to be subjegated by those who do.
Our corperations got the way they are because we kept buying/voting.
I am not anti-american. I love my country and her people. I do fear that they have lost sight of their true enemy - the intoxication brought on by satisfied greed.
To qoute another posting:"tough, adapt or die." Jobs get "outsourced" overseas because nobody's doing that job here or they're charging too much.
Try not buying that companies service anymore.( dollar voting)
Thank you. My country is feeling a bit ill of late but we're working on it. One of our forefathers put it quite well - Patrick Henry I think - when he said this: "My country right or wrong. When right to keep her right, when wrong to put her right, but my country right or wrong"
So far... Not much. Are butterflies part of the penguin diet?