Slashdot Mirror
Another Google Recruiting Technique
An anonymous reader writes "The new edition of Linux Journal has a special insert: The GLAT (Google Labs Aptitude Test) is a Google recruiting quiz presented as a spoof of standardised aptitude tests. It is filled with math and Google-related trivia."
Nice modesty there Michael!
already?
: cruftbox.com/blog/archives/001031.html+GLAT&hl=eng oogle cache
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:ARvQ1IJEyucJ
you can't have everything, where would you put it?
The original link is dead, the Coral cache is unresponsive, and Google apparently has no cache of it. However, I was able to find this page, which has a little more abot the test.
it sounds like because of bulk they arent reading the normal applications
Mirror, the site is already down. http://66.90.101.31/~whateve/mirror/
reply, but cruftbox.com has been /. already. :S
I do hate standard aptitude tests, they are usually unrealistic and have nothing to do with what you have actually learned. Take the National Registry EMT tests, they are so "wordy" that you could pick any answer and be right in your head, but because of the one word, the answer is wrong. Anyone can tell you how to do the procedure, but picking the right answer from two right answers is a hard thing to do!
http://dont.spam.me.anymore.com
They've been putting puzzles on the inside front cover of the Mensa Bulletin for at least the past few months (I just joined). This month, the GLAT was stapled to the inside instead of the inside cover puzzles I'd been seeing.
It actually has some neat questions. Lots of fun!
I claim first use of "Error No. 0B" - or "No. 0B error." It'll be the new ID 10T!
The relation of things on GLAT also discussed or thrown out on /. instantly struck me. Not that these are unique to /., but I rarely come across them in one package.
.com bubble, and a few math questions.
Algorithmic haiku, "what's wrong with Unix", text adventures (the "it's 2PM... what do you do?" question and the maze one), ruminations on optimal team size, coolest hack ever, what's the next big thing for Google, a snide reference to the
I got mine in DDJ, not one in CUJ though.
This was just an excuse to say you're in Mensa.
My wife's in Mensa, and one of the best things about that are the Google ads that generally take up the inside front page or two. It's a nice brain tease, and while I'm pretty sure I had a few of them figured out, I never sent them in because I like how Google hires PhDs, and I'd worry about being in over my head. I was disappointed when I didn't see any ad in the first page of this past month's Mensa mag, but overjoyed when I found the GLAT. Then I was a little intimidated. Still, I might sit and work it out one of these days, when I come up with the time for it. (As opposed to, say, killing time posting on Slashdot.)
I am Leviathant and I approve this message.
Solve this cryptic equation, realizing of course that values for M and E could be interchanged. No leading zeroes are allowed.
WWWDOT - GOOGLE = DOTCOM
Write a haiku describing possible methods for predicting search traffic seasonality.
What's the next line?
1
1 1
2 1
1 2 1 1
1 1 1 2 2 1
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. There is a dusty laptop here with a weak wireless connection. There are dull, lifeless gnomes strolling about. What dost thou do?
A) Wander aimlessly, bumping into obstacles until you are eaten by a grue.
B) Use the laptop as a digging device to tunnel to the next level.
C) Play MPoRPG until the battery dies along with your hopes.
D) Use the computer to map the nodes of the maze and discover an exit path.
E) Email your resume to Google, tell the lead gnome you quit and find yourself in a whole different world
What's broken with Unix? How would you fix it?
On your first day at Google, you discover that your cubicle mate wrote the textbook you used as a primary resource in your first year of graduate school. Do you:
A) Fawn obsequiously and ask if you can have an autograph.
B) Sit perfectly still and use only soft keystrokes to avoid disturbing her concentration
C) Leave her daily offerings of granola and English toffee from the food bins.
D) Quote your favorite formula from the textbook and explain how it's now your mantra.
E) Show her how example 17b could have been solved with 34 fewer lines of code.
Which of the following expresses Google's over-arching philosophy?
A) "I'm feeling lucky"
B) "Don't be evil"
C) "Oh, I already fixed that"
D) "You should never be more than 50 feet from food"
E) All of the above
How many different ways can you color an icosahedron with one of three colors on each face?
What colors would you choose?
This space is intentionally blank. Please fill it with something that improves upon emptiness.
On an infinite, two-dimensional, rectangular lattice of 1-ohm resistors, what is the resistance between two nodes that are a knight's move away?
It's 2pm on a sunny Sunday afternoon in the Bay Area. You're minutes from the Pacific Ocean, redwood forest hiking trails and world class cultural attractions. What do you do?
In your opinion, what is the most beautiful math equation ever derived?
Which of the following is NOT an actual interest group formed by Google employees?
A) Women's basketball
B) Buffy fans
C) Cricketeers
D) Nobel winners
E) Wine club
What will be the next great improvement in search technology?
What is the optimal size of a project team, above which additional members do not contribute productivity equivalent to the percentage increase in the staff size? A) 1 B) 3 C) 5 D) 11 E) 24
Given a triangle ABC, how would you use only a compass and straight edge to find a point P such that triangles ABP, ACP, and BCP have equal perimeters? (Assume that ABC is constructed so that a solution does exist.)
Consider a function which, for a given whole number n, returns the number of ones required when writing out all numbers between 0 and n. For example, f(13) = 6. Notice that f(1) = 1. What is the next largest n such that f(n) = n?
What's the coolest hack you've ever written?
'Tis known in refined company, that choosing K things out of N can be done in ways as many as choosing N minus K from N: I pick K, you the remaining. Find though a cooler bijection, where you show a knack uncanny, of making your choises contain all K of mine. Oh, for pedantry: let K be no more than half N.
What number comes next in the sequence: 10, 9, 60, 90, 70, 66, ?
A) 96
B) 10 to the 100th power
C) Either of the above
D) None of the above
In 29 words or fewer, describe what you would strive to accomplish if you worked at Google Labs.
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you not know the difference between a billboard and a magazine?
With google using these recruiting techniques, is it possible that they might have something big on the horizon where they need lots of quality people? I mean these new techniques require someone who can solve problems and code rather than just code. It also requires more that just click here to submit resume where they might get, lets sat 1,236,754 resumes where only 20 of them have the qualifications.
The September issue of Physics Today also had a GLAT insert. I guess Google's trying for all sorts of backgrounds...
"Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself." -Richard Feynman
Or even just start using Coral Cache links. It's almost no work for them.
I have to go to sleep, but it seems to me that the answer to #17 is binary 10. There are (Base 10) 2 "1"s in the numbers between (Base 2) 10 and 0 (ie 0 1 10).
For those who didn't get to read the page, #17 went something like this:
Consider a function that, given a whole number n, returns the number of 1's in the numbers between 0 and n. E.g. f(13) = 6. Notice f(1) = 1. Find the next larger n such that f(n) = n.
"It is filled with math and Google-related trivia." So, really, you are being tested on how well you can use Google to find the answers. Brilliant!
same questions as posted above.
despite your rhetoric, caching system is an interesting idea.. anyone got any ideas?
and more important, i'm sure it's been discussed before. anyone wanna direct me to a prev thread?
sortakinda.ca | canadian paraphrasing.
Hopefully there are no serious errors - haven't the time to check!
All Slashdot has to do it start using Coral Cache .nyud.net:8090 links instead of straight links. No backend work for Slashdot.
... starting to get just a little bit tired of all this "we're the elite, we hire only PhD's" crap that seems to permeate the "google image" these days? I preferred it when google was this cool, neat, simple little search engine that gave really excellent results very quickly. And yes, it was invented by a couple of really smart kids. But there just seems to be a steadily growing mythology about how everyone that works there is a fricking genius or something... I dunno, I'm not bitter about it (trust me, I didn't apply and get turned down or anything) but I doesn't anyone else get tired of this?
It's a company, they were in the right place at the right time and they have a good product. It has nothing to do with being smart in the sense that Mensa or PhD's or whatnot relate to the issue... you can't make a successful company better just because you employ cartloads of post-docs. If it were as simple as that then every PhD out there would be a successful businessman and be rich. But that's not it! Being "smart" (i.e. being able to solve puzzles and grok math equations) is only a single, quite narrow aspect of "intelligence". We all know the guy who's ultra-bright at science or math, but bloody useless in the "real world" or (gasp) interpersonal relationships. To worship puzzle-solving and the ability to sail through the Mensa tests is just something that grates on me. It's not that I hate smart people, believe me - I guess it's just elitism in general that bugs me.
Ok, that's off my chest, now I can go back to watching Buffy and drinking beer.
That line is now gone. michael has now rectified history. That line does not exist; it had never existed...
As another reply to your comment pointed out, you're and idiot and should not have been moderated up. In fact, you score dropped from the time I saw your comment to clicking reply (not long).
So let's clear it. What you pointed out was a billboard with a question on it to recruit for google.
The GLAT was a little "book" that was a 4 sides of paper (not standard size, smaller). It looked like a school aptitude test in almost every way. It had all sorts of interesting questions in it like "The space below was intentionally left blank. Please improve upon this." and "In an infinate two-dimentional lattice of 1 ohm resistors, what is the resistance between any two points a knight's move away?" and other such things. It's full of that kind of stuff and more.
So in conclusion, this is not a dupe. Why not try LOOKING at things (or even reading the submission) before trying to get karma by yelling DUPE.
Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
Can we come up with what SPLAT means... as it relates to websites that get posted on Slashdot?
You know you're a geek if you've ever replied to a tagline.
There's a reason why there was a ? in my subject. It wasn't clear at the time I was posting it was a dupe.
At the time I was posting, the article got slashdotted so there was no article to read. Not even Google's Cache was saving us.
Besides, this story is very close to the billboard story in that Google is posting its want ads in the form of geek quizes in order to reduce the number of resumes they get and hopefully improve their signal-to-noise ratio. If anything, the summary should have at least mentioned the past story to make it glaringly clear it wasn't a dupe.
The site might have been slashdotted, but I got the Google Labs Aptitude Test multiple choice section right here.
Q: What is the supreme search engine on the planet?
a.) google.com
b.) aol keyword google
Q: What is 8^7 x 32^2 / $ -2352.8a + x + y + $
a.) google = moneyopoly
b.) google = infinite $$
Q: Did you go to standford?
a.) yes
b.) pick this and fail
It's really, really hard to take a billboard to the bathroom!
What do I win?
On an infinite, two-dimensional, rectangular lattic of 1-ohm resistors, what is the resistance between two nodes that are a knight's move away?
Anyone knows this one? Is there an "easy" way or just the traditional infinite sum approach i'm too lazy to think of?
My english is sow-sow. Sowhat?
or even better yet, have their automated linking mechanism (that puts the host in brackets after a link) also provide a link that says 'coral' to the same link, automatically. that would solve a lot of problems, methinks.
you can't have everything, where would you put it?
One, two, three...... Awwwwwww.
No fucking luck.
Would the test be ineptitude test with math questions like "If Bill says he's interested, what time is tee time?" and "If Dale is the IT director at a company who's stock is valued under $1, how many drinks do you need to feed Dale before he signs." Bonus question... "How many drinks do you need to feed Dale before he tells you his company isn't going to buy?" Super bonus questions "How many drinks do you need to feed Dale before he says that he's looking for employment else where?"
when they ban enctryption only criminals wi$21*J *#JF$%!@#$':
Google only hires PHD's; The difference between PHD and PHB is only two bits.
-- Greg
Slashdot, would a spell-checker for posting be too much to ask? It's not rocket science!
Comment removed based on user account deletion
From the test:
"Orkut" is:
A. Turkish for slow
B. Turkish for painfully slow
C. Turkish for unusable
C. Turkish for "written in painfully slow and unusable ASP.NET"
You are incorrect, it can be used to stop the page loading at all - before the first HTML/XML tag is sent to the browser.
:p
In this case, and most other Slashdottings, the site is brought down by too much legitimate HTTP traffic - especially when large images and screenshots are involved.
Such PHP code (or similar ASP code) will drastically reduce the effect of a Slashdotting - to the point that (ideally) the server may continue to serve content to users who didn't come from Slashdot.
I personally like Slashdot, however if you dont, why do you visit the site and why do you have a username? Why do you flame me with your username and not as an AC?
Who is the idiot now?
I think the reason there is a ? in your subject is that you are a moron. The slashdot writeup CLEARLY stated that this is an insert in the new Linux Journal. Does that sound like a fucking billboard to you? Oh yeah, read the FIRST FUCKING WORD OF THE HEADLINE. ANOTHER. How much more clear would you like it?
SomethingAwful did a similar trick, redirecting all Slashdot-referred visitors to goatse.cx (back when that was still its domain name).
It's a great way to send a message to STOP LINKING TO OUR SITE; the editors ('specially michael) won't listen to any other types of messages.
Yeah I saw this trick in the Mensa rag we get every month I was impressed until a few days later I read about the ads in Cambridge, Mass.
Now there going after the linux top's so it's looking like a publicity stunt for there IPO Let's hire or look like we are hiring the top people (of which I'm probably not one) inflate the price of stock who knows.
I wish them luck what ever they are trying to do. (for now)
Support Free Trade Campus Now!
I'd Tell you all my secrets but I lie about my past
As an employee in a longtime Google competitor (gee, guess who), I must say from day to day I find the foot soldier, often educated at a state school, much more useful than the Einstein. They work their tails off, don't say no to any project, and work instead of cruising the web.
not a good idea to post the invites.. lokks like you slashdotted the gmail server
Honestly, I was happy when I got a job after college where I could do real work (design/architect & implement) and quit jumping through stupid hoops to prove how smart I was. I've answered my fair share of brain teasers, pattern recognition, cute/stupid questions. This is crap that pisses me off. I'm sure google wants smart people, but they're going to overlook all the people who just get shit done when it needs to be done (and do it well) because they're going for the people who are creative. I'll take someone slightly less smarter with a good work ethic who realizes that work is more than just answering stupid riddles.
And yes, I may be slightly jealous that I don't work at Google, but honestly this type of thing really turns me off. I guess I'm not what they're looking for then.
I also got a copy of this "test" in Dr. Dobb's.
Not even the Slashdot Effect... just a boring old 404. If anyone has a link that works, please, let us know! Kind of mean of the host to remove the file after it's been slashdotted...
- Code Dark
If the insert asked the same questions as the billboard test, then that would have been a dupe for sure... same message being delivered over different media is still the same message.
Yeah, especially if your boyfriend won't get off slashdot in the first place!
...
Me: Honey, come to bed.
Him: Just one more SCO article to read through, I promise!
Me:
"Equal bytes for women!"
WWWDOT - GOOGLE = DOTCOM
If I were to actually solve it, I would write a small program to try all possible solutions. Given that there are 9 variables between 0 and 9, it wouldn't take long on an average pc.
I salute you, sir.
I was quite stunned to see the form in my magazine.
The job screening exam clearly breaches Australia's anti-discriminiation laws (simplifying somewhat, Google is asking some questions unrelated to my potential performance as an employee, therefore the questions must be for some discriminatory purpose). I'd be surprised if the same were not true of the US.
What this screening exam did for me was to confirm Google's corporate stupidity.
Google is now first on the list of places I'd never want to work -- what concern is it of their's what I do with my spare time.
I've no idea what Linux Journal thought they were doing by accepting the insert.
The number of people that fit into one car.
This way all can travel to lunch together and are able to keep working.
no, but we've signed you up to 100 free pr0n pics an hour and unlimited spamvertisements for life
1/Rt = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3
.333 forever.
.25
... 1/n
So, in this case, lets say that All resistors (R) are one.
1/Rt = 1/1 + 1/1 + 1/1
which makes Rt 3
1/3 =
Now lets add a resistor:
1/Rt = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3 + 1/R4
1/4
Rt =
see how it gets smaller every time you add one?
SO if you continually add one, its continually gets smaller.
So the correct answer is:
1/Rt = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
So much anger. You sound like a gentleman that could benefit from some more introspection.
Use the formula for combining parallel resistances: 1/(1/R1 + 1/R2 + ... + 1/RN)
So you have 1/(1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/4 * (# of 4 -distance-paths) + 1/(# 5-distance paths)).
The denominator grows faster than the harmonic series (1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ...) which grows to infinity, so the total resistance (1/infinity) is zero.
Comment removed based on user account deletion
Scans of Test
o ver.jpg a ge1.jpg a ge2.jpg a ge3.jpg
http://img47.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img47&image=glat-c
http://img47.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img47&image=glat-p
http://img47.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img47&image=glat-p
http://img47.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img47&image=glat-p
When modding "Informative", please make sure it both has a source and IS actually informative.
Hey fagnuts, http://isnoop.net/gmailomatic.php
C: Either of the above.
Simply spell out the sequence:
ten, nine, sixty, ninety, seventy, sixty-six...
and look at the number of letters used:
3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8...
The next item must clearly have nine letters, so either "ninety-six" or "one Googol" will work. (or "seventeen", or "fifty-four", etc.)
Weeks of coding saves hours of planning.
I personally think that is slashdot's fault for not using a cache instead of just linking. THEY can obviously handle the bandwidth. Half the sites that can linked to, however, cannot. Yeah, I guess they've got a right to link, but if they had any considerations at all for their readers, they would consider using a cache. After all, if we can't read the news, what good is it to link to it... And yeah, they've got a right to link, but if they know that its going to take down a site, why not find another way?
That's because NREMT charges extra for the retest. Nothing like making an extra buck off the same customer taking the same test without telling you what you missed the first time. It's a hell of a racket for those bastards.
he came in late to lucid emacs and it died shortly thereafter. he came to Netscape and it died shortly thereafter. hmmm...see a pattern?
You guys killed my site, but I've put them up on another domain I have.
Please mirror the images. Thanks.
GLAT Images
nuclear iraq bioweapon encryption cocaine korea terrorist
Good point. I don't like these kinds of Evil HR quiz things. It's very annoying and therefore Evil; meaning that these quizes break the Google golden rule prior to going public: Don't be Evil. Well that didn't last, did it?
I recently interviewed at Google and got an offer, but didn't go. I think they sort of dropped the ball.
At the risk of sounding arrogant (and, there's no way I'd post this if I weren't doing so anonymously), I was a very qualified candidate. I solved all their puzzles and made an incredibly positive impression on everyone there I visited. Simiarly, Google made a very positive impression on me. It's been my dream to work for them for many years and I finally had the opportunity!
Then, things sort of turned a little bit worse. I was also being courted by a Very Large Software Company. VLSC also made me an offer. It was better, but the money wasn't the issue. Every few days, someone from VLSC would call me to tell me how important it was that I go to work for them. How excited they were about me and extolling the virtues of VLSC.
First my future boss called. His boss called. HIS boss called. And *that* guy's boss called! At this point it was someone very high up in the company. All of them had the same message: we really want you to come here. They started sending little gifts to my house.
Meanwhile, I heard nothing from Google. Their recruiter called me occasionally but never replied to my emails or indicated having read them on phone calls. I asked if it would be possible to speak to anyone else in Google who I might speak with about the type of work I'd be doing or the people I'd be working with. No one ever contacted me. Now, they were getting ready for their IPO so I suppose they had better things to think about, but the overwhelming impression I got was "Your loss if you don't work here. Whatever, come if you want." Meanwhile, VLSC made it clear it would be *their* loss if I didn't work there and that they'd do everything they could to make it the best place ever to work.
It was incredibly painful to have to give up my dream of working for Google. But ultimately, VLSC convinced me that they were more excited about the work I could do and that I'd have a better opportunity there to do it.
I really wanted to want Google. They made it very hard.
I hope someone from Google reads this and maybe can pass this on to HR folks. It's not something I feel comfortable attaching my name to.
It's pistols at dawn for your besmirching of my honor.
nuclear iraq bioweapon encryption cocaine korea terrorist
nmoog, you ignorant slut.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and dog-gone it, people like me.
nuclear iraq bioweapon encryption cocaine korea terrorist
If you looked up advanced computer science topics like "formal verification", you'd see a Google ad.
I always have trouble with those quizzes. Type A PhDs do well at them. So I guess you're not interested in me, Google, cause I have other skills.
Like I've started several companies and made most of them successful. I've solved some incredibly hard technical problems and earned real patents (not the new fake kind) for my work. So you probably wouldn't be interested in me, Google. I wouldn't wear black and drink 4$ coffee and be mathy in an eclectic way like you dream your employees could be.
But if you guys want to do something more interesting than search, and can take a break from your mathematical one-upsmanship, let me know and we'll talk.
...is a plural form of 'orgasm' in the Finnish language, and translates "all of the orgasms."
It may be a nice troll, but the fact is, Google's motto "Don't be evil" is in direct conflict with the fact that they just went public.
A public corporation is mandated by law to make as much money as possible (i.e. accountable to the shareholders). Remember in Fight Club when he describes how the car company figures its recalls? They do it that way because its the law.
Welcome to America...
Frankly, I've become a bit put off by all of these aptitude tests Google has been assaulting us with. The method of advertising has given me the impression that Google lacks any real direction or organization but is banking on its collection of brilliant people to do something wonderful. There was a time that working at Google sounded kind of interesting, but that time has passed.
This month's Dr. Dobb's Journal has the Google Labs aptitude test too.
A quick 10-line c program gives this answer.
See charts for twitter trends on Trendistic
I don't know about others, but I truly hope this is the last "Google job recruiting" Slashdot article.
If you picked (a) they'd fail you because you came from some crappy place called Standford rather than Stanford
Look it up.
Tell that to this guy.
A lot of people died to make sure this story got passed down unchanged to the present day.
All things considered equal, people will not knowingly die for something they know not to be true....
I hear this is being done out in 'resumeland'. That is, the HR personnel get so many resumes for a job opening they simply discard resumes that have spelling errors or other 'minor' problems with them--sounds like another form of intelligence test.
Even 'McJob' applications are an itelligence test--if you are able to fill it out properly and the HR personnel like what they see on it, you 'might' get called in for an interview!...
I was hoping to solve them all, bu it's getting late and no one will see the post if I wait too much longer:
Solve this cryptic equation, realizing of course that values for M and E could be interchanged. No leading zeroes are allowed.
WWWDOT - GOOGLE = DOTCOM
777589 - 188103 = 589486
What's the next line?
1
1 1
2 1
1 2 1 1
1 1 1 2 2 1
3 1 2 2 1 1 (run length encoding)
How many different ways can you color an icosahedron with one of three colors on each face?
3 if you read this pedantically. Or 3^20. No one said it was regular.
It's 2pm on a sunny Sunday afternoon in the Bay Area. You're minutes from the Pacific Ocean, redwood forest hiking trails and world class cultural attractions. What do you do?
Wonder what happened to all the traffic.
What will be the next great improvement in search technology?
When they stop indexing blogs.
Consider a function which, for a given whole number n, returns the number of ones required when writing out all numbers between 0 and n. For example, f(13) = 6. Notice that f(1) = 1. What is the next largest n such that f(n) = n?
10,000,000,002
(10^(n+1) has n/10+1 1s, as each digit is a 1 1/10th the time)
'Tis known in refined company, that choosing K things out of N can be done in ways as many as choosing N minus K from N: I pick K, you the remaining. Find though a cooler bijection, where you show a knack uncanny, of making your choises contain all K of mine. Oh, for pedantry: let K be no more than half N.
I'm not sure what this means. My attempt at parsing it is: find x
such that n-k choose x equals n choose k. That has no solution.
Consider 6 choose 2 for n and k.
What number comes next in the sequence: 10, 9, 60, 90, 70, 66, ?
A) 96
(Largest number that has n letters in its name)
Knight's resistors isn't 0, btw. Consider it without any resistors except the four around the voltage source, with the rest shorted. It's obviously not zero, all current passes through one of those resistors.
I hear a lot of people died in iraq too... does that mean they believed george told the truth? .. Food for thought.
It's on this month's Dr. Dobb's too.
In a nutshell, he hinted that they use Linux, that they have loads of cheap systems which 1) they expect will break down and 2) are cheap to fix, that a large part of the systems indexes content and that another large part of the systems serves content. And Google is hiring.
He constantly repeated that because they went public he was not allowed to be specific. And he wasn't. There was a watchful Google woman that apparently took note of everything that went on and assisted at the proclamations of secrecy. And Google is hiring.
Then he touched the Google policy and hinted that Google has a sort of principle of "not being evil". In my words, this means Google has considered being evil and decided not to be (maybe for the time being). Did I mention that Google is hiring?
Oh yes and they were hiring. Yes hiring, hiring and hiring. There were even forms (as if the audience didn't know where to look for them on Google). And of course he couldn't say anything about the rates, due to... But Google is hiring.
At the end of the presentation I thought:
- Google kicks ass in low cost high performance computing.
- Gmail will give them experience in how to handle confidentially in low cost high performance computing.
- They (and not RedHat) have everything in order to become the next MS.
(Monopoly on a technology and loads of quickly earned bucks.)
- I guess that their going public results in less fun at the company.
- Why do they need/want more money? They are doing OK as it is!
- I decided to let Google have loads of fun with their money and not to take anything of that away from them by applying.
- Oh yeah, they probably want the best for the lowest price. Both in HW and HR.
And not to forget: Google is hiring.I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
M: Quick! Give me something "cool" I can use.
P: Well, what about euler's constant.
M: That sounds great! Let's do a whole campaign about it. After all, here at google we get only the top google-ish people.
P: That's another work for proactive no? Seesh
Took 8 minutes to code, and 4 to run :)
Lameness filter won't let me post it - view it here
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
Does filling-in some blanks make you a genius of some sort? Is that worth a doctorate degree? Not sure... In Soviet Russia, you are not a doctor until you have a proven record of papers in your field. Handing in a thesis makes you a good candidate (the russian term) for being a doctor but don't expect to become one until your mid 40s.
In any case, working on your own is not ideal either. Fsckin supervisor was never there when I needed him and it's taken me 3 years of my time after my Ph.D to understand the maths I could see myself using all along. Oh well, if all goes well, I'll get a couple of papers out and a pat on the head... happy days.
This was the funniest test I've ever taken. I guess they were most impressed by the first 100 Pi digits I wrote in the blank space (page 2).
I have other interests that require time to pursue. I'm sorry you are so one dimensional.
Blar.
I'm a bit skeptical. Well, maybe they only took the first X amount of these things in, because it won't take long for all the answer to get posted. Seems more like marketing to me. Kind of "we have the smartest people, aren't we cool."
Of course, there is lots of kinds of intelligences. I read the Emotional Intellgence book, and it was a bit of an eye-opener. Yep, there's all kinds of smart.
I hate to admit it, but there may be a reason that some of those blasted sales and marketing guys and gals make serious money. We like to think that it's lucky, or BS, or kissing ass (and it could be), but sometimes, it's because "people smarts" can get you far.
Sure, this makes sense for a research lab starting up, but here's something to ponder. MS, IBM and HP all have labs too. And how effective they are is how well they can transfer ideas into development. HP had lots of idea, but consistently could not execute on them. IBM and MS do much better.
You can have too many cooks, after all. For every thinker, there is a doer that is just as valuable, if not more so.
Oh, and Google, now that you are public and MS wants a piece of your action, here's a hint. Arrogance and "we're better than..." can hurt you really, really bad. Just ask Netscape, err, AOL, err, well, you know. Don't get too cocky.
I think of Richard Fenymann at times like this. Nobel Prize winner, who admired an illiterate MC in a local bar for his social skills and how he worked. True smarts is always being ready to learn, regardless of how or what is taught.
Yea, maybe I'm jealous because I can't do those types of puzzles very well. But I still have enough brains to know that there is room for all types, and diversity wins over sheer brain power in the long haul.
Of course, I'm not that brainy. Hell, I'm still posting here, for the love of... 8-)
Is being elitist and treating your candidates like high school seniors "evil"? Are we applicants or supplicants?
I dunno... I'm starting to dislike Google. It doesn't help that, given all the media coverage with the prerequisite goofy "rock star" pics, I think I've seen these two dudes (Sergey and Larry?) more than my own family...
Factor in "customer goodwill", then "Don't be evil" becomes a long-term investment strategy. Screwing over your customers may turn a quick profit, but people / companies stop wanting to do business with you (if there's an alternative). In support of my position, I cite any discussion-page on Slashdot: look for anti-Microsoft sentiment.
GLAT: Number of blank lines for testee's answer: 5.
Number of "found pages" for typical google search: 523,984
Which book exactly are you referring to as "the Emotional Intellgence book"? I would like to read it, and knowing title and author would be a good start ;)
"How would stop the downward spiral in quality of Google's search results."
I think they need fewer number crunchers and more creative thinkers.
cuz these problems are the kind that appear in taiwanese high schools (and probably indian and chinese too)
"Reading a person on paper (that they wrote) is not a very accurate means for judging a person's intellect or skills. Testing their abilities just to get to the application is a smart thing to do."
Actually, reading things that a person wrote is a VERY accurate way of judging intellect and skills.
When I manage hiring, I explicitly read EVERYTHING that comes in as a work product, not just for its content.
In responding to the advert that specified a "cover letter and resume", did they send the cover letter? Does it say anything interesting? Do the cover letter and resume show good organization, clarity and execution (including grammar and spelling)? If so, they get to the next stage, which may a few essay Qs, which are again similarly evaluated.
OTOH, "intelligence tests" are notoriously difficult to sort from bias and specific knowledge.
This guy didn't just join the cafeteria of his university, but a club for solving puzzles and finding friends and someone to love (though not necessarily in that order).
The *EXACT* resistance across a knight's move
is actually:
4/pi - 1/2
I'd been working on this for a while before
I got the GLAT in DDJ.
The rec.puzzles FAQ is an OK starting point
for getting this answer, but it has unclear
English...
http://rec-puzzles.org/sol.pl/physics/resistors
Note to Google: thanks for the interesting
puzzles, but it's degrading to make smart
people do parlor tricks and jump through
hoops for a job interview.
So, I'm spilling the answer in the hopes
of making the GLAT useless as a screening tool.
-- The Funk, The Whole Funk, And Nothing But The Funk
My buddy and I opened the magazine and found the test. We showed it to another friend of ours and then decided to take it collectively. After molesting our brains for about 30 minutes, we called it quits. We are not math wizzes, but all of us have good jobs (one does R&D for U.S. Navy, the other buddy and I do software stuff) and franky speaking, we would not want to work for an environment that treated us like high school kids.
Believe it or not, once I was asked about my SAT score during an interview. I got an offer, but I dropped a ball on that one because I simply did not want to go back to school. I think Google's the same. The bottom line is "Look, not everybody has a Ph.D. in Math; however, there are plenty of smart and hardworking individuals who can benefit a company by strong team work and good attitudes." Notice, I am not saying "Hire everybody else or die!" I am simply stating that there are good and smart individuals who can be productive...
It's actually the greatest number with the
/ njas/sequences/eisA.cgi?Anum=A052196
specified number of letters...
This sequence is indexed by God as:
http://www.research.att.com/cgi-bin/access.cgi/as
(YES I googled it!)
So, the answer is 96 or a Google depending on
whether you want to count a Google as a
bona-fide number.
I tend to suspect the GoogleLabs would..
-- The Funk, The Whole Funk, And Nothing But The Funk
Let them know!
I hate people wasting my time and effort, and I let them know when they are doing so.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
"Ten googol" (10^101) would be larger than "one googol" (10^100) with 9 letters, so they messed it up.
Wow, you just blew my mind.
I'd think the right answer is NINETYSIX, then.
-- The Funk, The Whole Funk, And Nothing But The Funk
NT
HR must not have been using Linux.
Since f(13) = 6 on base 4 too, and the base was not given, if we select 4 as the base then 131 = f(131). For the math dummies: 131 in base 4 is 30 in base 10 better known as the decimal system. Proving this as the smallest solution is farly easy (try it at home). One may think that 10 in binary is a valid answer, however f(13), google's own example, is undefined under binary.
(Score:5, Whoring)
Having a PhD and being creative are not mutually exclusive, but having a PhD is no guaranty of creativity. Lets face it. Creativity, or raw genius are hard to test for sight unseen. Good luck Google. And good luck to the rest of us. Companies wishing to only hire creative genius has the look of a growing trend.
The answer is (c). Any real number occurs next in a sequence, none is "righter" than another.
If i'm being paid to pursue my interestes I need to produce. Many times I feel like doing something random, rather than restore the car or learn the language. I like my free time.
Duh.
Blar.