Should we exclude people from becoming doctors because they believe that Jesus came back from the dead
Well, I know I would be very wary about being treated by a deeply religious physician without knowing exactly how those beliefs are going to impact his work. Anybody that puts their religious beliefs as more important (and more right) than their vocational body of knowledge is potentially putting me as a patient at risk. I would not want to chance getting a diagnosis or course of treatment that omits or changes some part of it due to his/her religious dogma.
So they have the same name. So what? It's not like it's the first time among OSS apps either. Just today I saw an announcement for a project to make a distributed search engine which is called "Grub" - exactly like the Linux bootloader. I don't see masses of people climbing the barricades over that one.
Re:Why reinvent the wheel? Evolution already exist
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I love Evolution. It is the best thing to have happened to my mail reading in years. I currently run the 1.3.2 prerelease, and I enjoy it immensely despite a number of bugs and other issues.
That said, Evolution is not an answer. Evo is a client. The server side is almost totally lacking. Chandler provides this in the form of a Peer-to-Peer style server/client architecture. What could (and, I believe, should) be done is to write an extension/plugin for Evolution to access the Chandler server functionality. That way you can use Evo as part of a Chandler setup, or use Chandlers own frontend whichever one you want/like./Janne
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I don't necessarily agree. While Exchange is used in many (if not all) larger organizations, frequently, each exchange installation covers only a subset of the organization, such as one department or workgroup. Within such a group - and especially if they have the budgetary responsibility for their installation - moving to a different, better, solution may well be worth the pain.
Also, and more important, they are aiming for the small organization. How many 3-10 employee companies would have an exchange server already? How many 10-50 employee organizations in other areas than north america and europe? I know we do not (we're three people total), and we certainly could use something like this, if it is painless enough to deploy.
I long ago includedevery mail from aol.com, yahoo.com and hotmail.com in my static spam filters. If anybody with such an account wants to mail me, they need to get in touch with some other account (or other means) first so I can add an excemption to them. To date I have three such excemptions total, all on yahoo.com.
I can't very well block them further than I already do, in other words.
They even run OpenBSD and Apache. It's ALL good!:-)
What!? OpenBSD!?!? I could _never_ support a site that doesn't run NetBSD!!! INFIDEL!!!!
Seriously, it is a good idea; there are other similar sites around as well - country specific and sometimes genre specific as well. They are well worth taking a look at.
The real trick for this to work is of course to make samples (as in whole, representative songs) available very easily. If you can buy the rest of the songs directly, without having to go through the intermediate step of a plastic disk, so much the better.
I'm torn between the two sides here, but I really have to sympathize with the student. How many of us can really claim to have completed every homework assignment ever given? How many of us can really claim to have fulfilled every request of every teacher?
I certainly don't.
If an assignment is clearly "busywork", then bring it up with those in power to do something about it - the parents. If it is that clear, they are in a position both to accept not doing it, and also take the teachers to task for not doing their job.
The issue really is that as "legal guardians", the parents have not only a right, but a _duty_ to find out and check on everything Junior does. If Junior gets into trouble, so do the parents. If Junior commits a felony, it's the parents that have to pay the legal fees and damages. There is a pretty hefty legal burden on parents, which makes giving their chilren unsupervised rights a chancy proposition - and one that the parents would be wise not to give if the child can't even handle such simple responsibilities as showing up in school and telling them when they have school trouble.
As you say, most parents will recognize that doing everything "perfect" is not going to happen - and is likely not desirable either. If I didn't do every assigned piece of homework, or spent an afternoon in the local computer store rather than at school, my parents didn't freak. They - as yours - did realize that I would do fine anyway. A system such as this would not have changed this. The real control freaks out there already do find out just about daily about every detail of their childrens lives (my mother is a teacher - some parents can be absolutely unbelievable). But saying parents have no right to know what their children are up to is tantamount to give them responsibilities without corresponding control. That is bad.
Well, the authentication mechanism does seem unsecure - that is something the school needs to work on, or they're just setting themselves up for a lawsuit if it's used in an inappropriate way.
But... You complain that your parents find out what happens to you at school? That your legal guardians can find out if you try to deceive them and not do schoolwork? Hear - methinks it's the worlds smallest violin playing the worlds saddest song...
How about actually attending school and doing the homework?
I'm serious. The wings are hardwired to work only when there is no touch sensing on the feet, so to get up in the air, they do a small jump. Once they clear the surface, the wings start. Conversely, to land, they need only touch a surface with the feet, and the wings stop.
yep. It was different in our day. We had no fancy networking; we'd _walk_ through a snowstorm to hand over floppies with the new slashdot content to each other. We had no shoes and it was always a head wind both ways. Just try telling the youngsters here; they refuse to believe you.
Of course, it won't work the way it is described. The fly won't flap its wings as long as the feet have contact with something. You need to glue it on its stomach, with enough free space below to allow the legs to hang freely.
A leg up isn't sufficient. Problem is, a lot of technologies in the font rendering area are patented. For instance, there is no _really_ good hinting engine enabled for truetype fonts, simply because it's patent ecumbered and would require licence fees for every desktop using it. That is not to say a hinting engine isn't available, just that it's not compiled in...
And from the beginnings of civilization up until around the end of the last century, slavery was common and accepted in many parts of the world.
Actually, the number of wars, and the proportion of people affected by them, have been at its lowest level ever for the past fifteen years. Barring any loose cannons on the world stage, it is entirely conceivable that war really could be abolished in the long term.
I'm sorry for not having english as my first (or second) language. Meanwhile, I do believe I did manage to communicate the intended meaning of my post to any interested readers, and, after all, that is the purpose of language, right?
No. This is what Mozilla is supposed to achieve. Mozilla really is a platform for doing browser-related stuff; the browser itself is more of a technology demonstration than an end-user app, which is why it conatins so much stuff. Projects like Phoenix/minotaur/Galeon is intended to grow out of Mozilla just like it has.
The license for software (or other purchases) is a feature of the product just as much as dataformats or other 'checklist-items'. A given organization may have very specific requirements one way or another, or have a 'don't care' for the feature.
If an organization sees a clear benefit with GPL software, they should of course add this feature to their specifications. Just like requiring support for a specific dataformat does not in itself discriminate among vendors, neither does a GPL requirement - vendors are perfectly free to offer a GPLed version of their software to the organization, after all.
Nope. The point is not just to slow it down to a crawl, but to never actually send that message at all (or at least append a tag to it identifying it as highly probable spam).
No problem. It means X seconds in which they do not send another message, and no meaasge sent through that SMTP gateway. With enough mailservers doing this, it will severely limit the number of messages they can send in a given time.
They aren't. This is an appeal to a higher court, not a new trial. If it works as the Swedish court (and the legal systems are pretty close), it will be a reinterpretation of already established facts, with an eye to whether the relevant law was correctly interpreted. It is not "really" whether he is guilty or not, but a trial of whether the lower court did in fact do its job properly.
For those of you still screaming "double jeopardy", don't forget (again, I'm talking about Swedish, not norwegian court practice) that if the defendant appeals, the higher court can not increase the punishment from the lower court. Only if the prosecution appeals as well (which they need a law-technical reason to do) can the appeals court ever increase the punishment.
No. What it means is that a lot of people are just not interested in competition. I don't know why this concept seems to be so difficult for some people to assimilate. Competing in sports is not inferior in any way; not everybody is interested, however.
It also means that when you put exercise on that footing, many of those people will shun the activity, even when they would otherwise enjoy it, and when it would really be beneficial to them.
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I wonder what assholes like you would complain about if the US got its shit together.
I'm not overly worried about that possibility.
(1) Ignore them (Has little effect al la China)
(2) Sanctions (Cuba, Iraq, Libia)
(3) War
I don't know. Declaring war on the US seems a little premature. I think I'll just ignore them for the time being.
Should we exclude people from becoming doctors because they believe that Jesus came back from the dead
Well, I know I would be very wary about being treated by a deeply religious physician without knowing exactly how those beliefs are going to impact his work. Anybody that puts their religious beliefs as more important (and more right) than their vocational body of knowledge is potentially putting me as a patient at risk. I would not want to chance getting a diagnosis or course of treatment that omits or changes some part of it due to his/her religious dogma.
So they have the same name. So what? It's not like it's the first time among OSS apps either. Just today I saw an announcement for a project to make a distributed search engine which is called "Grub" - exactly like the Linux bootloader. I don't see masses of people climbing the barricades over that one.
I love Evolution. It is the best thing to have happened to my mail reading in years. I currently run the 1.3.2 prerelease, and I enjoy it immensely despite a number of bugs and other issues.
/Janne
That said, Evolution is not an answer. Evo is a client. The server side is almost totally lacking. Chandler provides this in the form of a Peer-to-Peer style server/client architecture. What could (and, I believe, should) be done is to write an extension/plugin for Evolution to access the Chandler server functionality. That way you can use Evo as part of a Chandler setup, or use Chandlers own frontend whichever one you want/like.
I don't necessarily agree. While Exchange is used in many (if not all) larger organizations, frequently, each exchange installation covers only a subset of the organization, such as one department or workgroup. Within such a group - and especially if they have the budgetary responsibility for their installation - moving to a different, better, solution may well be worth the pain.
Also, and more important, they are aiming for the small organization. How many 3-10 employee companies would have an exchange server already? How many 10-50 employee organizations in other areas than north america and europe? I know we do not (we're three people total), and we certainly could use something like this, if it is painless enough to deploy.
I long ago includedevery mail from aol.com, yahoo.com and hotmail.com in my static spam filters. If anybody with such an account wants to mail me, they need to get in touch with some other account (or other means) first so I can add an excemption to them. To date I have three such excemptions total, all on yahoo.com.
I can't very well block them further than I already do, in other words.
They even run OpenBSD and Apache. It's ALL good!
What!? OpenBSD!?!? I could _never_ support a site that doesn't run NetBSD!!! INFIDEL!!!!
Seriously, it is a good idea; there are other similar sites around as well - country specific and sometimes genre specific as well. They are well worth taking a look at.
The real trick for this to work is of course to make samples (as in whole, representative songs) available very easily. If you can buy the rest of the songs directly, without having to go through the intermediate step of a plastic disk, so much the better.
I'm torn between the two sides here, but I really have to sympathize with the student. How many of us can really claim to have completed every homework assignment ever given? How many of us can really claim to have fulfilled every request of every teacher?
I certainly don't.
If an assignment is clearly "busywork", then bring it up with those in power to do something about it - the parents. If it is that clear, they are in a position both to accept not doing it, and also take the teachers to task for not doing their job.
The issue really is that as "legal guardians", the parents have not only a right, but a _duty_ to find out and check on everything Junior does. If Junior gets into trouble, so do the parents. If Junior commits a felony, it's the parents that have to pay the legal fees and damages. There is a pretty hefty legal burden on parents, which makes giving their chilren unsupervised rights a chancy proposition - and one that the parents would be wise not to give if the child can't even handle such simple responsibilities as showing up in school and telling them when they have school trouble.
As you say, most parents will recognize that doing everything "perfect" is not going to happen - and is likely not desirable either. If I didn't do every assigned piece of homework, or spent an afternoon in the local computer store rather than at school, my parents didn't freak. They - as yours - did realize that I would do fine anyway. A system such as this would not have changed this. The real control freaks out there already do find out just about daily about every detail of their childrens lives (my mother is a teacher - some parents can be absolutely unbelievable). But saying parents have no right to know what their children are up to is tantamount to give them responsibilities without corresponding control. That is bad.
Well, the authentication mechanism does seem unsecure - that is something the school needs to work on, or they're just setting themselves up for a lawsuit if it's used in an inappropriate way.
But... You complain that your parents find out what happens to you at school? That your legal guardians can find out if you try to deceive them and not do schoolwork? Hear - methinks it's the worlds smallest violin playing the worlds saddest song...
How about actually attending school and doing the homework?
They jump.
I'm serious. The wings are hardwired to work only when there is no touch sensing on the feet, so to get up in the air, they do a small jump. Once they clear the surface, the wings start. Conversely, to land, they need only touch a surface with the feet, and the wings stop.
yep. It was different in our day. We had no fancy networking; we'd _walk_ through a snowstorm to hand over floppies with the new slashdot content to each other. We had no shoes and it was always a head wind both ways. Just try telling the youngsters here; they refuse to believe you.
Of course, it won't work the way it is described. The fly won't flap its wings as long as the feet have contact with something. You need to glue it on its stomach, with enough free space below to allow the legs to hang freely.
I can't believe they missed the most important function of all: sending a warning mail when the roll needs to be changed.
A leg up isn't sufficient. Problem is, a lot of technologies in the font rendering area are patented. For instance, there is no _really_ good hinting engine enabled for truetype fonts, simply because it's patent ecumbered and would require licence fees for every desktop using it. That is not to say a hinting engine isn't available, just that it's not compiled in...
And from the beginnings of civilization up until around the end of the last century, slavery was common and accepted in many parts of the world.
Actually, the number of wars, and the proportion of people affected by them, have been at its lowest level ever for the past fifteen years. Barring any loose cannons on the world stage, it is entirely conceivable that war really could be abolished in the long term.
I'm sorry for not having english as my first (or second) language. Meanwhile, I do believe I did manage to communicate the intended meaning of my post to any interested readers, and, after all, that is the purpose of language, right?
No. This is what Mozilla is supposed to achieve. Mozilla really is a platform for doing browser-related stuff; the browser itself is more of a technology demonstration than an end-user app, which is why it conatins so much stuff. Projects like Phoenix/minotaur/Galeon is intended to grow out of Mozilla just like it has.
The license for software (or other purchases) is a feature of the product just as much as dataformats or other 'checklist-items'. A given organization may have very specific requirements one way or another, or have a 'don't care' for the feature.
If an organization sees a clear benefit with GPL software, they should of course add this feature to their specifications. Just like requiring support for a specific dataformat does not in itself discriminate among vendors, neither does a GPL requirement - vendors are perfectly free to offer a GPLed version of their software to the organization, after all.
Beacuse the slowdown/DoS will only happen om messages already identified as spam.
Nope. The point is not just to slow it down to a crawl, but to never actually send that message at all (or at least append a tag to it identifying it as highly probable spam).
No problem. It means X seconds in which they do not send another message, and no meaasge sent through that SMTP gateway. With enough mailservers doing this, it will severely limit the number of messages they can send in a given time.
They aren't. This is an appeal to a higher court, not a new trial. If it works as the Swedish court (and the legal systems are pretty close), it will be a reinterpretation of already established facts, with an eye to whether the relevant law was correctly interpreted. It is not "really" whether he is guilty or not, but a trial of whether the lower court did in fact do its job properly.
For those of you still screaming "double jeopardy", don't forget (again, I'm talking about Swedish, not norwegian court practice) that if the defendant appeals, the higher court can not increase the punishment from the lower court. Only if the prosecution appeals as well (which they need a law-technical reason to do) can the appeals court ever increase the punishment.
*sigh*
No. What it means is that a lot of people are just not interested in competition. I don't know why this concept seems to be so difficult for some people to assimilate. Competing in sports is not inferior in any way; not everybody is interested, however.
It also means that when you put exercise on that footing, many of those people will shun the activity, even when they would otherwise enjoy it, and when it would really be beneficial to them.
I so not want to know where he'll be putting his thumb to determine the gender of Microsoft...