they already have installed Windows 2000 and got further to Release^WService Pack 6 or Windows XP and got to Service Pack 2. Even Office has Service Packs. I dunno where there is the difference between a honest beta or an unhonest full version which has to be patched every 6 month.
if they stick with jabber it is not a new im service. Just a new jabber-server just like the others on the net. No big deal. They could make custom features to the protocol, without harming it. Caus the protocol is supposed to be extendable. Normal clients could still use it. So they could make a special type of message which shows ads, and only the google_desktop_toolbar_taskbar_search_plugin_monst er will show em. Wouldn't harm. There are a lot of people thinking google toolbar was something total new. Regarding the rumors about VoIP: They could make an extension to negotiate the VoIP connection. I think there is even a proposal for the jabber protocol to do that. Of couse doing VoIP via XML messages is kind of out of the question, binary XML via TCP is not really suitable. Would be cool, you could even still use the gpg possibilites of jabber to encrypt your VoIP.
But the real gain is questionable for me too. Of course they could attract a lot of msn/aim users like gmail did with hotmail. But the adfactor in an IM is not so big like in e-mail.
than they should reconsider there security policy. If it is internal it should only be available from the internal network. For external employees there is vpn. Everything else is kind of insane.
if they stay with jabber, this no problem. To use a gateway in jabber, you jabber account must not be at your jabber server. You can register on the gateways of other servers. Only thing to remember is, that your (MSN) credentials will be stored at the gateway. So trust is essential.
Yeah eight computers is really quite the average. Maybe you should start watching out of the window to see that the world is quite different from the own situation. That's the whole point of making earth so fucking big. If all would be same and average, earth could have been a lot smaller.
And rebooting and multitasking doesn't fit together at all.
vmware is kind of expensive. And running fast enough is so much relative, it is not even worth to discuss about it. Or would you play farcry in vmware?
the problem is that i need at least two programs at the same time Shell + working app. So if you want to use photoshop without the crap explorer shell you are just fucked up. Don't tell me to buy a mac, it is even more expensive than vmware. and on the mac i can't play mod far cry while making texturing with photoshop and having a sane shell (openbox).
but of course if i would have 8 computers or even one of the normal a z-series everybody is having around nowadays this wouldn't be a problem.
sorry, but your post is just so childish, cause you couldn't see, that your situation is kind of unusual having 8 computers.
30 seconds and having lost whole memory, meaning starting up the apps loading all the data done before. Every context change is fucking up any productivity so don't tell me rebooting is a solution. That's why you have to choose an OS.
The problem is just, that there are some apps which are only available for one OS. But Windows is the most incompatible from the big 3 desktop OS but the most used. And it is just plain crap in so many regards, that it is really hard not to cry all time if you have to use it for just one fucking app. And if there would be more competition, microsoft would get its ass up again to make money and wouldn't produce uninspired crap like nowadays and using monopoly tactics to get away with it.
That's why it is needed to show people other OS, so they can see, what is possible nowadys. Cause John doe from the street knows crap about how easy computers could be (Spotlight, securer defaults, customizability if you _want_, defaults which are usable, easy software installation, not so much stupid behavior (registry, trojans, admin as default...) But people don't know and if you don't know you wouldn't even mind changing, cause you don't know, that it could be better.
but rebooting is a pain in the ass. What about multitasking? One app is better in win and the other in linux. What would you do? Copy and paste between msn messenger and kdevelop how to do? maybe some people still are single app users. But they can stay at dos+win95... and encoding video with nero recode while using a enlightenment. impossible. THATS why you have to choose. and just rebooting 1 minute to do something else is not really productive.
I dunno what you do with your computer, but there are people who us it a lot more than you...
i would say DRM is more like kindergarten with a lot of electrical fences and ugly supervisors. ah yes, and the only place where comemrcials^Wtoys are allowed
sound compromisable, but it is the danger that they would just match against nearly everything and you have the same effect as with personalized log files.
The problem is you have to take data, cause you can't just decide beacause of the last 5minutes. And you have make it personalized, to kick the right guys. So you either need personalized logs or you have to match against quite a lot.
I dunno what to do, but personalized logs are an evil, which is not allowed to take IMO.
Anyway i think your suggestion could be feasible, if they publish the patterns they match against. But this helps the blackhats, too. So technology can't solve this problem, too, like always.
most likely he was reffering to the law in germany, that every logged connection data must be either anonymized (for technical logs) or must be needed for accounting procedures (but maximum is AFAIK 3 months). With a flatrate there is no such thing as "need for accounting", so the ISP isn't allowed to make logs, which are personalized.
so the original poster most likely meant , if they can't have personalized logs, they ca n't shut you down.
Straigth from madpenguin.com page one of the review, too bad i wasn't able to read page 2:( -----------------c&p-------------
Sun Microsystems has recently released Solaris 10. It is currently free, as in beer, and most of it is promised to be released under an OSI approved license in the second quarter of 2005. Most everyone reading this probably knows all of that. The release and subsequent open sourcing of Solaris 10 has caused quite an uproar in the Open Source community and the IT industry as a whole. Linux advocates have been fighting Solaris advocates on forums across the Internet. The zealotry and misrepresentation from both sides has been really quite impressive. However, I am a BSD user. I am not on either side and will do my best to allow neither zealotry nor misrepresentation into this review.
Please continue reading after you have stopped laughing.
All political issues aside, Solaris 10 is a very impressive OS. It has some features no other operating system can claim and some that are not necessarily new, but have been implemented in an excellent way. This is not to say it is perfect. There are definitely things I dislike and areas that seem quite unpolished.
One of those aforementioned unpolished areas is the installation routine. It can be assumed that Solaris will not be installed by a novice. Even so, the Solaris install is painful and brings with it memories of Windows 2000 installs of old. This is not because its difficult, it is not. The installation is simply unwieldy. My main complaints are the following:
* You must partition, install a small base system and reboot to finish the install. I expect an OS to be installable without a reboot.
* For the first section of the install there is a web browser in the background, but for unknown reasons there is no browser in the second section.
* You have to switch CD's during the install, which is fine, but you can't just switch and walk away. You have to wait for it to read the CD and display another screen and then press next. There is probably a reason for this, but I just find it annoying.
Issues like these make the installation routine seem unfinished and just don't fit with the overall quality of the OS.
Upon booting Solaris for the first time, you are greeted by dtlogin. This is the default graphical login manager for Solaris and plainly has CDE roots. At this point, there is a drop-down menu in which you can choose to go back to a console login or choose which wm/dm to enter, both CDE and JDS3 are options. I am sure CDE has many great features and I know that some people love it. However, I am not one of them. JDS3 on the other hand is a nicely polished GNOME desktop. The theme and general feel is much improved over Sun's earlier versions. Nothing is very remarkable about JDS3, except network browsing. I have never seen any GNOME desktop do as well with windows and NIX network browsing.
There are things I dislike about JDS. As a media player, Sun has chosen the "Java Media Player." This program has no redeeming factors. XMMS or Rhythmbox would be much better choices. They also tapped Mozilla to be the web browser, not Firefox. With FF gaining more and more attention, this choice makes very little sense to me. However, those are my only complaints about JDS3 and they are small ones.
Nobody is considering Solaris 10 because of JDS3 or its installation routine. They are looking at it because of new features like DTrace, Zones and the new Service Management Framework. Indeed, it has been quite awhile since we have seen a release of any OS with as many large features as Solaris 10.
DTrace One of the main new features in Solaris 10 is DTrace, a dynamic instrumentation system. DTrace consists of a scripting language, named D (not to be confused with the fledgling D Programming Language), and loadable kernel modules named "providers." When called upon, these "providers" track and report system information. DTrace has several features t
let it run on your second X. Some minor performance improvement but much more usability. Having your Webbrowser, IM and IRC available while playing games. Under windows this is not always possible.
Note: UT2004 is the best recent alt+tab compatible game.
so they won't use jabber. Of course it's open and they can implement it fairly easy. BUT why the heck should the Programmers of Psi, Gaim, Imcom, Kopete, TKGabber,... implement this? Why wouldn't i throw this spam-featuer away from the code after they implemented it (after smoking some real bad shit)
So they will stick together with a commercial Network. A big one. And after that this network will allways change the protocol, so that all the not offical Clients will not be able to connect. So it's even harder to convince anybody to change. Except everybody switches away from this "major"network.
I can't remember men explored any planet except earth. And look what happened:o
Moon to earth is in no reasonable comparison from moon to another planet (like mars). Its like comparing walking to the supermarket and walking to australia.
>I'm afraid the German government might waste all >kinds of money and resources trying to actually >enforce this.
Believe me, they will. Living in this country is quite a pitty if you look what's done with your money. But i think thats everywhere the same.
Allthough in Germany there is no such thing of finding law through court like in USofA. Here the laws are more important than there. I don't know if it's better, but it relatives this courts decission.
Nevertheless. The really bad thin about it is, that such decissions take us one step further to throw the USofA from the throne "Most stupid laws".:) I don't know what I should think about it, if I have to think about it in which state I am to decide should I smoke on the street or not can I drink or not.:)
ok there are Shell Replacements vor windows too. litestep.net for example is higly customizable. Only FVWM can beat it:) but wats the matters of themes/customization of the GUI on a Server? Why use it in corparete installatons, so no fellow can help you, cause he uses a all different system? Having the right to choose is not a right it's a bondage to choose. And choosing takes much time:)
>Can you ssh into your windows machine?
Whats the Point in using SSH. You have another tool for this Problem. You can use the MMC to manage remote Systems. And yes it is possible to start services remote.
>Using Shell Scripts?
Why use Shell Scripts? Windows is different so do not try toi use the same things as on linux. Under Windows you have the Windows Scripting Host to do probably the same things as in linux.
I don't know why people always wan't to use the same procedures on different systems. It's like breathing in space without a space-suit.
so you mean the spirit of Open Source includes free as in free beer? I thought always that's exactly NOT the point or any point on open source.
So its a really bad try. The only thing they do is getting news coverage in connection with free. And thanks to you in connection with open source in a positive way. What a mess...
and then you can put all wireless transmissions in the trashcan, cause all the signalpower is lost due to mobile 2.8GHz Radeon 9800 gaming mobiles......who are "taking" all signal power they can get
you can't get energy from somewhere sbd has to provide it.
and why schoul sbd steal only frequencies that are allowed, the energy frequencys from the power companies if he can take all? Maybe you can pay for YOUR frequency, but why should you not take others
I don't thin that sbd will provide enrgy for nothing
I know he whe has to have a good antenna, meaning for the right frequency, but he can "steal" from other frequencies nevertheless
Also I think its not good to send 1KW through my brain...
Ok, it's not inside a MP3 player but it works via handy. http://www.vodafone.de/kundenbetreuung_ser vices/en tertainment/31669.html
http://www.shazamentertainment.com/mobile_operat or s.shtml in english
and here an article from technology review Germany: http://heise.de/tr/artikel/44675
And some marketing stuff from Philips http://www.research.philips.com/Informati onCenter/ Global/FArticleDetail.asp?lArticleId=2394&lNodeId= 931&channel=931&channelId=N931A2394
The Vodafone service works quite good for the actual chart hits, btu who cares about that shit? It's on MTV all the day. But it's quite cool to hold your mobile in the air, while you are in the club and it says that it is . But for music which is not so popular its not working.
But maybe when the databases grow much larger there will be a future, together with mp7 its a "good thing"(TM).
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there are free desktops for windows available.
And with litestep no Linux WM can compare, cause it's real customizable. And maybe kahakai can compare, when it has more snipplets to make things easier. Geoshell is from the Programmer of the Explorer, because he need something to debug the Explorer during development. And the concept of bars is just like the concept behind gnome. There is also a blackbox port for windows. And there is much more.
Slashdot Mirror
what tool are you using for recording the sessions?
they already have installed Windows 2000 and got further to Release^WService Pack 6 or Windows XP and got to Service Pack 2. Even Office has Service Packs.
I dunno where there is the difference between a honest beta or an unhonest full version which has to be patched every 6 month.
this has been on slashdot last year in january.
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http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/01/28/1344207.shtm
if they stick with jabber it is not a new im service. Just a new jabber-server just like the others on the net. No big deal. They could make custom features to the protocol, without harming it. Caus the protocol is supposed to be extendable. Normal clients could still use it.t er will show em. Wouldn't harm. There are a lot of people thinking google toolbar was something total new.
So they could make a special type of message which shows ads, and only the google_desktop_toolbar_taskbar_search_plugin_mons
Regarding the rumors about VoIP:
They could make an extension to negotiate the VoIP connection. I think there is even a proposal for the jabber protocol to do that. Of couse doing VoIP via XML messages is kind of out of the question, binary XML via TCP is not really suitable. Would be cool, you could even still use the gpg possibilites of jabber to encrypt your VoIP.
But the real gain is questionable for me too. Of course they could attract a lot of msn/aim users like gmail did with hotmail. But the adfactor in an IM is not so big like in e-mail.
than they should reconsider there security policy. If it is internal it should only be available from the internal network. For external employees there is vpn. Everything else is kind of insane.
if they stay with jabber, this no problem. To use a gateway in jabber, you jabber account must not be at your jabber server. You can register on the gateways of other servers.
Only thing to remember is, that your (MSN) credentials will be stored at the gateway. So trust is essential.
Yeah eight computers is really quite the average. Maybe you should start watching out of the window to see that the world is quite different from the own situation. That's the whole point of making earth so fucking big. If all would be same and average, earth could have been a lot smaller.
And rebooting and multitasking doesn't fit together at all.
vmware is kind of expensive. And running fast enough is so much relative, it is not even worth to discuss about it. Or would you play farcry in vmware?
the problem is that i need at least two programs at the same time Shell + working app. So if you want to use photoshop without the crap explorer shell you are just fucked up.
Don't tell me to buy a mac, it is even more expensive than vmware. and on the mac i can't play mod far cry while making texturing with photoshop and having a sane shell (openbox).
but of course if i would have 8 computers or even one of the normal a z-series everybody is having around nowadays this wouldn't be a problem.
sorry, but your post is just so childish, cause you couldn't see, that your situation is kind of unusual having 8 computers.
30 seconds and having lost whole memory, meaning starting up the apps loading all the data done before.
Every context change is fucking up any productivity so don't tell me rebooting is a solution. That's why you have to choose an OS.
The problem is just, that there are some apps which are only available for one OS. But Windows is the most incompatible from the big 3 desktop OS but the most used. And it is just plain crap in so many regards, that it is really hard not to cry all time if you have to use it for just one fucking app.
And if there would be more competition, microsoft would get its ass up again to make money and wouldn't produce uninspired crap like nowadays and using monopoly tactics to get away with it.
That's why it is needed to show people other OS, so they can see, what is possible nowadys. Cause John doe from the street knows crap about how easy computers could be (Spotlight, securer defaults, customizability if you _want_, defaults which are usable, easy software installation, not so much stupid behavior (registry, trojans, admin as default...)
But people don't know and if you don't know you wouldn't even mind changing, cause you don't know, that it could be better.
but rebooting is a pain in the ass. What about multitasking? One app is better in win and the other in linux. What would you do? Copy and paste between msn messenger and kdevelop how to do?
maybe some people still are single app users. But they can stay at dos+win95...
and encoding video with nero recode while using a enlightenment. impossible. THATS why you have to choose.
and just rebooting 1 minute to do something else is not really productive.
I dunno what you do with your computer, but there are people who us it a lot more than you...
i would say DRM is more like kindergarten with a lot of electrical fences and ugly supervisors. ah yes, and the only place where comemrcials^Wtoys are allowed
...but they don't have birth control for these.
but it fits perfectly, :)
keep on learning
sound compromisable, but it is the danger that they would just match against nearly everything and you have the same effect as with personalized log files.
The problem is you have to take data, cause you can't just decide beacause of the last 5minutes. And you have make it personalized, to kick the right guys. So you either need personalized logs or you have to match against quite a lot.
I dunno what to do, but personalized logs are an evil, which is not allowed to take IMO.
Anyway i think your suggestion could be feasible, if they publish the patterns they match against. But this helps the blackhats, too. So technology can't solve this problem, too, like always.
most likely he was reffering to the law in germany, that every logged connection data must be either anonymized (for technical logs) or must be needed for accounting procedures (but maximum is AFAIK 3 months).
With a flatrate there is no such thing as "need for accounting", so the ISP isn't allowed to make logs, which are personalized.
so the original poster most likely meant , if they can't have personalized logs, they ca n't shut you down.
Straigth from madpenguin.com page one of the review, too bad i wasn't able to read page 2 :(
-----------------c&p-------------
Sun Microsystems has recently released Solaris 10. It is currently free, as in beer, and most of it is promised to be released under an OSI approved license in the second quarter of 2005. Most everyone reading this probably knows all of that. The release and subsequent open sourcing of Solaris 10 has caused quite an uproar in the Open Source community and the IT industry as a whole. Linux advocates have been fighting Solaris advocates on forums across the Internet. The zealotry and misrepresentation from both sides has been really quite impressive. However, I am a BSD user. I am not on either side and will do my best to allow neither zealotry nor misrepresentation into this review.
Please continue reading after you have stopped laughing.
All political issues aside, Solaris 10 is a very impressive OS. It has some features no other operating system can claim and some that are not necessarily new, but have been implemented in an excellent way. This is not to say it is perfect. There are definitely things I dislike and areas that seem quite unpolished.
One of those aforementioned unpolished areas is the installation routine. It can be assumed that Solaris will not be installed by a novice. Even so, the Solaris install is painful and brings with it memories of Windows 2000 installs of old. This is not because its difficult, it is not. The installation is simply unwieldy. My main complaints are the following:
* You must partition, install a small base system and reboot to finish the install. I expect an OS to be installable without a reboot.
* For the first section of the install there is a web browser in the background, but for unknown reasons there is no browser in the second section.
* You have to switch CD's during the install, which is fine, but you can't just switch and walk away. You have to wait for it to read the CD and display another screen and then press next. There is probably a reason for this, but I just find it annoying.
Issues like these make the installation routine seem unfinished and just don't fit with the overall quality of the OS.
Upon booting Solaris for the first time, you are greeted by dtlogin. This is the default graphical login manager for Solaris and plainly has CDE roots. At this point, there is a drop-down menu in which you can choose to go back to a console login or choose which wm/dm to enter, both CDE and JDS3 are options. I am sure CDE has many great features and I know that some people love it. However, I am not one of them. JDS3 on the other hand is a nicely polished GNOME desktop. The theme and general feel is much improved over Sun's earlier versions. Nothing is very remarkable about JDS3, except network browsing. I have never seen any GNOME desktop do as well with windows and NIX network browsing.
There are things I dislike about JDS. As a media player, Sun has chosen the "Java Media Player." This program has no redeeming factors. XMMS or Rhythmbox would be much better choices. They also tapped Mozilla to be the web browser, not Firefox. With FF gaining more and more attention, this choice makes very little sense to me. However, those are my only complaints about JDS3 and they are small ones.
Nobody is considering Solaris 10 because of JDS3 or its installation routine. They are looking at it because of new features like DTrace, Zones and the new Service Management Framework. Indeed, it has been quite awhile since we have seen a release of any OS with as many large features as Solaris 10.
DTrace
One of the main new features in Solaris 10 is DTrace, a dynamic instrumentation system. DTrace consists of a scripting language, named D (not to be confused with the fledgling D Programming Language), and loadable kernel modules named "providers." When called upon, these "providers" track and report system information. DTrace has several features t
let it run on your second X.
Some minor performance improvement but much more usability. Having your Webbrowser, IM and IRC available while playing games. Under windows this is not always possible.
Note: UT2004 is the best recent alt+tab compatible game.
so they won't use jabber. Of course it's open and they can implement it fairly easy. BUT why the heck should the Programmers of Psi, Gaim, Imcom, Kopete, TKGabber,... implement this? Why wouldn't i throw this spam-featuer away from the code after they implemented it (after smoking some real bad shit)
So they will stick together with a commercial Network. A big one. And after that this network will allways change the protocol, so that all the not offical Clients will not be able to connect. So it's even harder to convince anybody to change. Except everybody switches away from this "major"network.
>No other planets explored (by man
:o
others than which?
I can't remember men explored any planet except earth. And look what happened
Moon to earth is in no reasonable comparison from moon to another planet (like mars). Its like comparing walking to the supermarket and walking to australia.
>I'm afraid the German government might waste all
:) I don't know what I should think about it, if I have to think about it in which state I am to decide should I smoke on the street or not can I drink or not. :)
>kinds of money and resources trying to actually
>enforce this.
Believe me, they will. Living in this country is quite a pitty if you look what's done with your money. But i think thats everywhere the same.
Allthough in Germany there is no such thing of finding law through court like in USofA. Here the laws are more important than there. I don't know if it's better, but it relatives this courts decission.
Nevertheless. The really bad thin about it is, that such decissions take us one step further to throw the USofA from the throne "Most stupid laws".
no pun intended
ok there are Shell Replacements vor windows too. litestep.net for example is higly customizable. Only FVWM can beat it
but wats the matters of themes/customization of the GUI on a Server? Why use it in corparete installatons, so no fellow can help you, cause he uses a all different system?
Having the right to choose is not a right it's a bondage to choose.
And choosing takes much time
>Can you ssh into your windows machine?
Whats the Point in using SSH. You have another tool for this Problem. You can use the MMC to manage remote Systems. And yes it is possible to start services remote.
>Using Shell Scripts?
Why use Shell Scripts? Windows is different so do not try toi use the same things as on linux. Under Windows you have the Windows Scripting Host to do probably the same things as in linux.
I don't know why people always wan't to use the same procedures on different systems. It's like breathing in space without a space-suit.
Yes, I do use both systems
so you mean the spirit of Open Source includes free as in free beer?
I thought always that's exactly NOT the point or any point on open source.
So its a really bad try. The only thing they do is getting news coverage in connection with free. And thanks to you in connection with open source in a positive way. What a mess...
and then you can put all wireless transmissions in the trashcan, cause all the signalpower is lost due to mobile 2.8GHz Radeon 9800 gaming mobiles... ...who are "taking" all signal power they can get
you can't get energy from somewhere sbd has to provide it.
and why schoul sbd steal only frequencies that are allowed, the energy frequencys from the power companies if he can take all? Maybe you can pay for YOUR frequency, but why should you not take others
I don't thin that sbd will provide enrgy for nothing
I know he whe has to have a good antenna, meaning for the right frequency, but he can "steal" from other frequencies nevertheless
Also I think its not good to send 1KW through my brain...
Ok,r vices/en tertainment/31669.html
t or s.shtml
i onCenter/ Global/FArticleDetail.asp?lArticleId=2394&lNodeId= 931&channel=931&channelId=N931A2394
it's not inside a MP3 player but it works via handy.
http://www.vodafone.de/kundenbetreuung_se
http://www.shazamentertainment.com/mobile_opera
in english
and here an article from technology review Germany:
http://heise.de/tr/artikel/44675
And some marketing stuff from Philips
http://www.research.philips.com/Informat
The Vodafone service works quite good for the actual chart hits, btu who cares about that shit? It's on MTV all the day.
But it's quite cool to hold your mobile in the air, while you are in the club and it says that it is . But for music which is not so popular its not working.
But maybe when the databases grow much larger there will be a future, together with mp7 its a "good thing"(TM).
Greets from old Europe
Sierra Square
Delta Square
there are free desktops for windows available.
And with litestep no Linux WM can compare, cause it's real customizable.
And maybe kahakai can compare, when it has more snipplets to make things easier.
Geoshell is from the Programmer of the Explorer, because he need something to debug the Explorer during development. And the concept of bars is just like the concept behind gnome.
There is also a blackbox port for windows.
And there is much more.
just my 0.02