GPL does not deal with trademarks, as distributing any source code has nothing to do with trademarks.
What about things like icons in a GUI? If a logo is distributed with software as an icon in a GUI, wouldn't that be considered a trademark, and wouldn't it affect what you could do with the software distribution? Or say you got hold of a Linux distribution that has the word "Linux" or the Tux mascot in a splash screen. Isn't the GPL supposed to allow you to take that copy and re-distribute it as it is?
BTW, I'm not arguing for or against this issue, I just thought this issue was covered under the GPL. I could understand that a trademark issue could be raised in some circumstances, for example, with a magazine that uses "Linux" in its title. But as for re-distributing a copy of an installation CD- I thought you could do so without having to make any modifications to it so that it doesn't contain trademarked words or images. In the case of the latter, the GPL would need to encompass trademarks to permit that sort of thing.
Doesn't the GPL include a disclaimer that states if you include your work with something covered by the GPL license, you relinquish the control of any intellectual property you have included in that work, and from there it is subject to the terms of the GPL? I thought that the GPL doesn't cover software code only, but encompass other types of work like art. Wouldn't a trademark distributed with the GPL be subject to the terms of the GPL?
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Next time, can you please indicate that it is shock porn, a disturbing image, or just basically a troll? You just yelled "free porn!". What do you think everyone's here's going to do? Not look?!?
..Microsoft wants something specific from Apple and is using this as a lever.
Perhaps Microsoft is wary of OS X running on plain x86 boxes and an Apple office suite. According to the WWDC 2005 keynote address, Apple had secretly maintained an Intel port of OS X from the very beginning as a "Just In Case" scenario (23:44 into the presentation). The possibility of them suddenly getting into direct competition with Microsoft with an OS and office suite may be another card up their sleeve, despite all the discussion that Apple's business model is mainly as a hardware manufacturer. Microsoft may be building up a patent portfolio to interfere with Apple as their own "Just In Case" scenario.
After all, NeXT started out as a hardware company that later became a software company. Since OS X is founded on NeXTSTEP, Apple could very easily take the same route as NeXT. Maybe Apple is adopting NeXT's business model as well. It may not be the planned route, but could be another contingency plan. Most people didn't think that Apple would switch to Intel and make a multi-button mouse. Apple could suddenly rock the boat and threaten Microsoft's market dominance, especially with all the delays of Windows Vista. I'm sure the people at Apple would be happy to be in Microsoft's market position rather than keep their hardware business model any day.
If most people are going to have to get a new computer to run Windows Vista, as well as new versions of the software they use written for it, they could just as easily upgrade their entire system to one running OS X. After all this time, Windows Vista still hasn't made it to market. And it will be released lacking full implementations of new features it was meant to have, like WinFS,.Net, and a new shell. In fact, it almost seemed to resemble vaporware for a while. Meanwhile, OS X already has Spotlight and a Unix shell. Any monopoly that grows too complacent in productivity can eventually be challenged by something newer. It may be highly improbable, but not impossible.
I think the final straw was the slashdot story saying how Flash was not secure, that programs could exploit it.
Just curious, but which story was that? I was wondering if Flash had serious exploits, but the stories I recall were regarding how it could be used for making pop-unders and nothing more serious. I think that flaw has been fixed- I'm not getting them anymore, either because I have a newer browser version or plugin version.
It's an example of AJAX. According to the Wikipedia entry on AJAX, this article first coined the term, and the first example it gives is Google Suggest.
I would consider Google to be an "average desktop app". The main search page may not use AJAX, but Google Suggest does, and that looks like it's supposed to replace the main page eventually.
Do you have coeliacs? Can you recommend a site on the web with good information about it? A mate of mine has symptoms of it, although he has other food intolerances as well besides gluten. From what I've read on the web, that can happen in cases of coeliacs.
I know that PCs have a much wider range of software available and can be customised more at the hardware level. But for those that aren't technologically inclined within a corporation, a Mac may suit their needs better if all they need to do is word processing, corresponding through email, and web browsing. These same people would probably opt for a PC if they had to pay for it themselves because they could get it cheaper. That's what I meant when I said that people equipped with computers through corporations probably get Macs more often than people who buy them on their own.
Now, I wonder why large companies would have such a large proportion of Mac users.
Larger corporations can spend a bit more on equipping employees than home users. Providing and upgrading computers, fancier mobile phones, company cars- that sort of thing.
I agree. I think something like "Windows.NET" would be better. It would depict that it they're including and promoting.NET along with the OS, although not completely apparently. It would just sound poignant, in my opinion. And they could also use the domain name "www.windows.net" as a portal to web services that are integrated with their OS, like Hotmail, Passport, and others that they haven't come up with yet. That was just my first try at coming up with an alternative name, and I'm not even a Microsoft fan. I bet their advertising campaign for it is going to be unappealing as well. I've never liked their ads.
Is there a website or blog that you would recommend to be the best for Demoscene information? I already know about Scene.org and a few others, but I'm not sure which is the most popular. I first saw the Demoscene mentioned in an article about an upcoming game called Spore. I asked a friend of mine who is heavily into Linux and has been in the computer industry for years. I was surprised to find that he never heard of it. I'm curious about finding any local groups.
You don't happen to be familiar with the Demoscene are you? I'm curious that in all this time I've been reading Slashdot, I have never seen it mentioned. I've only heard about it recently, though I forgot how I came across it on the web. I Found some sites about it, googling around, and I'm a little bit curious. I've been wondering if others on Slashdot are from the Demoscene.
adding video to iPod (which does one thing and does it well, except now it can do two things -- photos) makes it perhaps too complicated.
The iPod Photo already can be hooked up to a television to display slideshows. I believe Apple has actually been developing the iPod in this direction so that it would actually not take much modification to the existing design of the iPod photo in order to use it for video playback, from a manufacturing perspective. In fact, the iPod photo can technically play back videos, so it seems like it is probably only a matter of a software upgrade to get it to play videos. That is unless the processor isn't powerful enough to handle video decompression, as that example utilises "video" composed of frames that are individual files.
what i am suggesting is that Apple would now have a tool to dominate the online video market the way they do music.
think about it. we're all waiting for movies for download.
I think that Apple will actually start by selling music videos first rather than full-fledged movies. Somehow, the "iTunes" name doesn't seem to adequately describe a store and jukebox application for movies, although it would perfectly suit music videos as they still conform to the same genre. The file sizes of music videos along with H.264 compression would suit the iPod as it is currently, in terms of capacity. And you could just listen to the music without watching the video as well, kind of like leaving a television on in the background, listening to MTV as if it were a radio station.
Music videos are a dominating part of the music industry and seem to be a more influential broadcast medium than radio with regards to an artist's success in the music industry. Just imagine iTunes playing, but the "visualizer" function would make it play full screen music videos, turning it into your own private MTV channel rather than simply displaying visual graphics. Music videos seem to be an untapped potential of current technology because of the feasibility of short video file sizes. I don't believe that people are even trading music videos on P2P networks the way they do songs, so if the iTunes Music Store started selling them, it would have a major impact and fulfill a niche that even P2P file sharing hasn't addressed.
Movies still take up quite a bit of space for storage and bandwidth for downloading. However, the iPod would most likely end up as a way of storing your movie collection as well. I just think that the functionality isn't quite there yet at present to handle full-length movies as comfortably as it can music with regards to ripping, downloading, and storing. But it will get there as technology progresses, and music videos are the perfect media in the interim. I think that when they finally get into full-length movies, they would also have to change their jukebox application and downloading service name from "iTunes" into something else.
Chances are it will use H.264 mp4's, and it is not infeasible that it wouldn't support non-DRM media at all.
With the current version of iTunes, you can actually add video files to your library, and they don't have to be ones that you have acquired through the iTunes Music Store. You can use it to organise your existing Quicktime videos. I would think that a video iPod would allow you to play any video that you can store in iTunes that doesn't rely on third-party plugins for Quicktime.
I receive Nigerian mails everytime i sell something locally here in Sweden
I'm just curious, but why do you get emails from them when you sell something locally? Are you talking about selling something on a website where they manage to get your email address through?
2. digital clock on laptops. I'd love to have an external LCD display showing the time, even when the machine's not on. hell, that'd even be useful on a desktop machine.
And for some reason I picture that a lot of them will be blinking "12:00".
What inspired the British Broadcasting Corporation to suddenly leap into the software programming foray?
I've personally thought that software should be thought of more as a broadcast medium rather than a commodity. The very nature of computers, all the way to the processor level, is to copy. A business model for applying software should take advantage of that rather than hinder it. Allowing people to copy software costs nothing in comparison to copying physical goods, and allowing it to be distributed freely can reach and benefit a wider user base or audience, especially since the advent of the internet. Taking that into account, a free-to-air advertising revenue business model may be better suited for software rather than a per-seat or volume licensing business model. I was wondering if any major free broadcast media outlets would eventually see the similarities with the internet and their respective broadcast mediums, and apparently the BBC not only sees this but seem to be taking it as far as they can through open-source.
What's an OS that's a threat to Apple? Gee, you think the FREE Unix based OS with the most momentum could be a threat?
It seemed to me like it was the other way around. I've encountered a number of OSS projects (besides those on Fink) that can be compiled and installed from source. It seems like OS X is actually benefiting from the amount of software mainly written for Linux, that can be easily ported to OS X. Not to mention it uses a lot of open source itself like gcc, Apache, and Samba.
Does this take into consideration having to shell out the $$ for the Windows OS?
Yes. People who use Virtual PC on the Macintosh (and people do) have to actually pay for a full-fledged copy of windows that comes with Virtual PC. Unfortunately Virtual PC barely cuts it when it comes to speed. Even simply manipulating the GUI or file navigation can be painfully slow. Don't even think about video or 3D. Yet, people still use it for occasions in which a necessary application isn't available on the Macintosh platform, if it can run well enough under emulation. Being able to use Windows on a Macintosh in it's native processor would open up a whole new world to Mac users, whether through Virtual PC or as a dual-boot system.
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GPL does not deal with trademarks, as distributing any source code has nothing to do with trademarks.
What about things like icons in a GUI? If a logo is distributed with software as an icon in a GUI, wouldn't that be considered a trademark, and wouldn't it affect what you could do with the software distribution? Or say you got hold of a Linux distribution that has the word "Linux" or the Tux mascot in a splash screen. Isn't the GPL supposed to allow you to take that copy and re-distribute it as it is?
BTW, I'm not arguing for or against this issue, I just thought this issue was covered under the GPL. I could understand that a trademark issue could be raised in some circumstances, for example, with a magazine that uses "Linux" in its title. But as for re-distributing a copy of an installation CD- I thought you could do so without having to make any modifications to it so that it doesn't contain trademarked words or images. In the case of the latter, the GPL would need to encompass trademarks to permit that sort of thing.
Doesn't the GPL include a disclaimer that states if you include your work with something covered by the GPL license, you relinquish the control of any intellectual property you have included in that work, and from there it is subject to the terms of the GPL? I thought that the GPL doesn't cover software code only, but encompass other types of work like art. Wouldn't a trademark distributed with the GPL be subject to the terms of the GPL?
Next time, can you please indicate that it is shock porn, a disturbing image, or just basically a troll? You just yelled "free porn!". What do you think everyone's here's going to do? Not look?!?
frankly, I'm a bit amazed that IBM didn't come up with this first.
Wasn't IBM coming up with prototypes for things like holographic memory years ago? I could have sworn I read that somewhere.
Perhaps Microsoft is wary of OS X running on plain x86 boxes and an Apple office suite. According to the WWDC 2005 keynote address, Apple had secretly maintained an Intel port of OS X from the very beginning as a "Just In Case" scenario (23:44 into the presentation). The possibility of them suddenly getting into direct competition with Microsoft with an OS and office suite may be another card up their sleeve, despite all the discussion that Apple's business model is mainly as a hardware manufacturer. Microsoft may be building up a patent portfolio to interfere with Apple as their own "Just In Case" scenario.
After all, NeXT started out as a hardware company that later became a software company. Since OS X is founded on NeXTSTEP, Apple could very easily take the same route as NeXT. Maybe Apple is adopting NeXT's business model as well. It may not be the planned route, but could be another contingency plan. Most people didn't think that Apple would switch to Intel and make a multi-button mouse. Apple could suddenly rock the boat and threaten Microsoft's market dominance, especially with all the delays of Windows Vista. I'm sure the people at Apple would be happy to be in Microsoft's market position rather than keep their hardware business model any day.
If most people are going to have to get a new computer to run Windows Vista, as well as new versions of the software they use written for it, they could just as easily upgrade their entire system to one running OS X. After all this time, Windows Vista still hasn't made it to market. And it will be released lacking full implementations of new features it was meant to have, like WinFS, .Net, and a new shell. In fact, it almost seemed to resemble vaporware for a while. Meanwhile, OS X already has Spotlight and a Unix shell. Any monopoly that grows too complacent in productivity can eventually be challenged by something newer. It may be highly improbable, but not impossible.
I think the final straw was the slashdot story saying how Flash was not secure, that programs could exploit it.
Just curious, but which story was that? I was wondering if Flash had serious exploits, but the stories I recall were regarding how it could be used for making pop-unders and nothing more serious. I think that flaw has been fixed- I'm not getting them anymore, either because I have a newer browser version or plugin version.
I had to wait for the battery to run out before I could use it again.
There's supposed to be a reset button combination for the iPod if you run into that kind of problem.
It's an example of AJAX. According to the Wikipedia entry on AJAX, this article first coined the term, and the first example it gives is Google Suggest.
I would consider Google to be an "average desktop app". The main search page may not use AJAX, but Google Suggest does, and that looks like it's supposed to replace the main page eventually.
real time ray tracing isn't too far away
It's already here. There was this article about real time ray tracing hardware a while back. And there was this one about physics processing units. It will be interesting to see these things implemented together.
Do you have coeliacs? Can you recommend a site on the web with good information about it? A mate of mine has symptoms of it, although he has other food intolerances as well besides gluten. From what I've read on the web, that can happen in cases of coeliacs.
Unless VISTA has Widgets like these.. then I'm not sure why Yahoo! spent this money.
Do you mean Vista the software company, or Windows Vista? wink, wink ;)
I know that PCs have a much wider range of software available and can be customised more at the hardware level. But for those that aren't technologically inclined within a corporation, a Mac may suit their needs better if all they need to do is word processing, corresponding through email, and web browsing. These same people would probably opt for a PC if they had to pay for it themselves because they could get it cheaper. That's what I meant when I said that people equipped with computers through corporations probably get Macs more often than people who buy them on their own.
about this is :P
Now, I wonder why large companies would have such a large proportion of Mac users.
Larger corporations can spend a bit more on equipping employees than home users. Providing and upgrading computers, fancier mobile phones, company cars- that sort of thing.
Windows Vista, that doesn't sound quite right.
I agree. I think something like "Windows .NET" would be better. It would depict that it they're including and promoting .NET along with the OS, although not completely apparently. It would just sound poignant, in my opinion. And they could also use the domain name "www.windows.net" as a portal to web services that are integrated with their OS, like Hotmail, Passport, and others that they haven't come up with yet. That was just my first try at coming up with an alternative name, and I'm not even a Microsoft fan. I bet their advertising campaign for it is going to be unappealing as well. I've never liked their ads.
Is there a website or blog that you would recommend to be the best for Demoscene information? I already know about Scene.org and a few others, but I'm not sure which is the most popular. I first saw the Demoscene mentioned in an article about an upcoming game called Spore. I asked a friend of mine who is heavily into Linux and has been in the computer industry for years. I was surprised to find that he never heard of it. I'm curious about finding any local groups.
All true programmers develop in assembler.
You don't happen to be familiar with the Demoscene are you? I'm curious that in all this time I've been reading Slashdot, I have never seen it mentioned. I've only heard about it recently, though I forgot how I came across it on the web. I Found some sites about it, googling around, and I'm a little bit curious. I've been wondering if others on Slashdot are from the Demoscene.
adding video to iPod (which does one thing and does it well, except now it can do two things -- photos) makes it perhaps too complicated.
The iPod Photo already can be hooked up to a television to display slideshows. I believe Apple has actually been developing the iPod in this direction so that it would actually not take much modification to the existing design of the iPod photo in order to use it for video playback, from a manufacturing perspective. In fact, the iPod photo can technically play back videos, so it seems like it is probably only a matter of a software upgrade to get it to play videos. That is unless the processor isn't powerful enough to handle video decompression, as that example utilises "video" composed of frames that are individual files.
what i am suggesting is that Apple would now have a tool to dominate the online video market the way they do music.
think about it. we're all waiting for movies for download.
I think that Apple will actually start by selling music videos first rather than full-fledged movies. Somehow, the "iTunes" name doesn't seem to adequately describe a store and jukebox application for movies, although it would perfectly suit music videos as they still conform to the same genre. The file sizes of music videos along with H.264 compression would suit the iPod as it is currently, in terms of capacity. And you could just listen to the music without watching the video as well, kind of like leaving a television on in the background, listening to MTV as if it were a radio station.
Music videos are a dominating part of the music industry and seem to be a more influential broadcast medium than radio with regards to an artist's success in the music industry. Just imagine iTunes playing, but the "visualizer" function would make it play full screen music videos, turning it into your own private MTV channel rather than simply displaying visual graphics. Music videos seem to be an untapped potential of current technology because of the feasibility of short video file sizes. I don't believe that people are even trading music videos on P2P networks the way they do songs, so if the iTunes Music Store started selling them, it would have a major impact and fulfill a niche that even P2P file sharing hasn't addressed.
Movies still take up quite a bit of space for storage and bandwidth for downloading. However, the iPod would most likely end up as a way of storing your movie collection as well. I just think that the functionality isn't quite there yet at present to handle full-length movies as comfortably as it can music with regards to ripping, downloading, and storing. But it will get there as technology progresses, and music videos are the perfect media in the interim. I think that when they finally get into full-length movies, they would also have to change their jukebox application and downloading service name from "iTunes" into something else.
Chances are it will use H.264 mp4's, and it is not infeasible that it wouldn't support non-DRM media at all.
With the current version of iTunes, you can actually add video files to your library, and they don't have to be ones that you have acquired through the iTunes Music Store. You can use it to organise your existing Quicktime videos. I would think that a video iPod would allow you to play any video that you can store in iTunes that doesn't rely on third-party plugins for Quicktime.
I receive Nigerian mails everytime i sell something locally here in Sweden
I'm just curious, but why do you get emails from them when you sell something locally? Are you talking about selling something on a website where they manage to get your email address through?
2. digital clock on laptops. I'd love to have an external LCD display showing the time, even when the machine's not on. hell, that'd even be useful on a desktop machine.
And for some reason I picture that a lot of them will be blinking "12:00".
What inspired the British Broadcasting Corporation to suddenly leap into the software programming foray?
I've personally thought that software should be thought of more as a broadcast medium rather than a commodity. The very nature of computers, all the way to the processor level, is to copy. A business model for applying software should take advantage of that rather than hinder it. Allowing people to copy software costs nothing in comparison to copying physical goods, and allowing it to be distributed freely can reach and benefit a wider user base or audience, especially since the advent of the internet. Taking that into account, a free-to-air advertising revenue business model may be better suited for software rather than a per-seat or volume licensing business model. I was wondering if any major free broadcast media outlets would eventually see the similarities with the internet and their respective broadcast mediums, and apparently the BBC not only sees this but seem to be taking it as far as they can through open-source.
What's an OS that's a threat to Apple? Gee, you think the FREE Unix based OS with the most momentum could be a threat?
It seemed to me like it was the other way around. I've encountered a number of OSS projects (besides those on Fink) that can be compiled and installed from source. It seems like OS X is actually benefiting from the amount of software mainly written for Linux, that can be easily ported to OS X. Not to mention it uses a lot of open source itself like gcc, Apache, and Samba.
Does this take into consideration having to shell out the $$ for the Windows OS?
Yes. People who use Virtual PC on the Macintosh (and people do) have to actually pay for a full-fledged copy of windows that comes with Virtual PC. Unfortunately Virtual PC barely cuts it when it comes to speed. Even simply manipulating the GUI or file navigation can be painfully slow. Don't even think about video or 3D. Yet, people still use it for occasions in which a necessary application isn't available on the Macintosh platform, if it can run well enough under emulation. Being able to use Windows on a Macintosh in it's native processor would open up a whole new world to Mac users, whether through Virtual PC or as a dual-boot system.