Information is still sparse but trickling in. Reuters has an article up on it right now.
Big Blast, Mushroom Cloud Reported in N.Korea Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:54 AM ET
By Kim Miyoung and Paul Eckert
SEOUL (Reuters) - A huge explosion rocked North Korea near the border with China three days ago, producing a mushroom cloud that sparked speculation Pyongyang might have tested an atomic weapon, Yonhap news agency reported on Sunday.
The South Korean agency said the blast on Thursday in Kimhyungjik county in Ryanggang province appeared much bigger than a train explosion that killed at least 170 people in April.
South Korean Unification Minister Chung Dong-young sought to play down an atomic link, telling South Korean reporters after a National Security Council meeting that Seoul's assessment so far was the explosion was unlikely to have been part of the communist North's nuclear arms ambitions.
"There are some foreign media reporting such possibilities, but we are judging at the moment the explosion is unrelated to such reports," Yonhap quoted him as saying. Chung chairs the National Security Council, which advises President Roh Moo-hyun.
There was no immediate reaction from neighboring China. In Washington, a U.S. official said it was unclear what had happened and there were various possible explanations. Tokyo took a similar line.
"We've heard the report, and we are checking the details, including what's in the report itself," said Japanese Foreign Ministry spokesman Akira Chiba.
Thursday was the 56th anniversary of North Korea's founding. The reclusive communist state often stages extravaganzas and big events to mark important anniversaries.
South Korean intelligence officials said they were monitoring the news, but declined detailed comment on the reports, which were based on "informed sources" in Beijing and in Seoul. Yonhap did not give a description of the blast site.
ACCIDENT OR TEST?
The reports surfaced as South Korea, Japan, China, Russia and the United States were seeking to persuade North Korea to return to the negotiating table to discuss its nuclear weapons ambitions. The North, which threatened at earlier talks to test an atomic bomb, has said it doubts more negotiations will help.
"There were rumors that the explosion was much bigger than the one at Ryongchon train station and the United States is showing a big interest as the blast was seen from satellites," Yonhap quoted an unnamed source in Beijing as saying.
The cause had yet to be determined but the source said Washington was not ruling out the possibility that the blast may be linked to a nuclear test.
China was the last country to set off an above-ground nuclear test, in 1980. It carried out its last nuclear test in 1996 and has since observed a self-imposed moratorium on testing.
Yonhap quoted other unnamed officials as saying it was probably not an accident, although it also quoted one source in Washington as saying it was unlikely to have been a nuclear test. It quoted another source as saying it could be a forest fire.
Yonhap reported a mushroom cloud up to 2.5 miles in diameter was spotted after the blast in remote Ryanggang province in the country's far northeast near to known missile bases.
The New York Times reported in its Sunday editions the Bush administration had received recent intelligence reports that some experts believed could indicate North Korea was preparing to conduct its first nuclear weapons test explosion.
Train wagons exploded at the Ryongchon railway station on April 22, killing 170 and injuring an estimated 1,300. The blast was believed to have been caused by a train loaded with oil and chemicals hitting a power line. (Additional reporting by Arshad Mohammed in Washington and Isabel Reynolds in Tokyo).
When you have a OS that contains a "feature" of allowing your box to be infected by a worm within 1 minute of being connected to the net, without a doubt, yes I must agree that Windows does have a lower TC0. A lower TC0 for the individual(s) that rooted your box yes. What would be real funny if Microsoft caught wind of that "study" and actually quoted from it for their little "Get The Facts Straight" campaign without realizing its true intention.;)
You can look through the ECMA document for a Hello World example. Also check out last months Ars Technica Linux.Ars article on Mono as it provides a couple of examples too.
What is it with the hatred for this man? I swear some you act like he is the anti-christ for what he is attempting to accomplish with the Mono project.
1. No one is forcing anyone to use Mono or run.Net apps on other operating systems.
2. Try to look at the advantages that the OSS and Linux communities can utilize here if we can convince more developers to develop apps for Linux due to the existance of Mono.
3. Mono and Miguel are not going anywhere so all the folks in the anti-mono crowd might as well get use to it.
So why use Google Zeitgeist to make a case if this is so? Not all computer users use google. As you can see from the other graphs on their site, the majority of google users are English speaking. That right there already taints its effectiveness as a tool to show the current desktop marketshare around the world. Zeitgeist does not account for every single computer desktop out there, especially those of many international users nor those that can't access Google. What about people that can't even use the internet.
I was $199 away from getting that license and now this happens! Looks like I need to go find(create) some security holes in Mozilla to pay for the increase in SCO's Linux fee.
I cannot be the only one that finds the title of this/. article amusing. So I guess all the complaints over the years regarding the security vulnerabilities in their software and the outcries of people annoyed by their business practices didn't have the same or greater negative impact on their "image" as has this "monopoly battle"?
"Linux is not faster as a desktop than windows. As the gnome and kde desktops are the main competition for Microsoft Windows, it does not make sense for microsoft to make windows as fast as it can, because Linux is not currently faster. If Linux does get better, then Microsoft will still have 'gas in the tank' to make windows faster again."
And this is based on what facts? Or are you basing this on perception? Not everyone in the *nix world uses KDE or GNOME which seem to be increasing in bloat with each new release. On the hand many of the windows managers for *nix are lean and quick. This is precisely the reason many *nix users use a plain old windows managers instead of the two major full blown desktop enviroments.
"And if it is real, why isn't the Web full of success stories involving Hare and AntiCrash? Why isn't everyone installing them on every Windows machine in the world?"
The same reason the majority of the Windows using masses are using IE and Outlook. They know nothing else other then what came preinstalled with their machine.
So if I find a serious bug in Mozilla, they will pay me $500? So then that means all I need is $199 more to pay SCO to be able to use Linux with a more secure Firefox? YIPPIE!!
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Information is still sparse but trickling in. Reuters has an article up on it right now.
Big Blast, Mushroom Cloud Reported in N.Korea
Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:54 AM ET
By Kim Miyoung and Paul Eckert
SEOUL (Reuters) - A huge explosion rocked North Korea near the border with China three days ago, producing a mushroom cloud that sparked speculation Pyongyang might have tested an atomic weapon, Yonhap news agency reported on Sunday.
The South Korean agency said the blast on Thursday in Kimhyungjik county in Ryanggang province appeared much bigger than a train explosion that killed at least 170 people in April.
South Korean Unification Minister Chung Dong-young sought to play down an atomic link, telling South Korean reporters after a National Security Council meeting that Seoul's assessment so far was the explosion was unlikely to have been part of the communist North's nuclear arms ambitions.
"There are some foreign media reporting such possibilities, but we are judging at the moment the explosion is unrelated to such reports," Yonhap quoted him as saying. Chung chairs the National Security Council, which advises President Roh Moo-hyun.
There was no immediate reaction from neighboring China. In Washington, a U.S. official said it was unclear what had happened and there were various possible explanations. Tokyo took a similar line.
"We've heard the report, and we are checking the details, including what's in the report itself," said Japanese Foreign Ministry spokesman Akira Chiba.
Thursday was the 56th anniversary of North Korea's founding. The reclusive communist state often stages extravaganzas and big events to mark important anniversaries.
South Korean intelligence officials said they were monitoring the news, but declined detailed comment on the reports, which were based on "informed sources" in Beijing and in Seoul. Yonhap did not give a description of the blast site.
ACCIDENT OR TEST?
The reports surfaced as South Korea, Japan, China, Russia and the United States were seeking to persuade North Korea to return to the negotiating table to discuss its nuclear weapons ambitions. The North, which threatened at earlier talks to test an atomic bomb, has said it doubts more negotiations will help.
"There were rumors that the explosion was much bigger than the one at Ryongchon train station and the United States is showing a big interest as the blast was seen from satellites," Yonhap quoted an unnamed source in Beijing as saying.
The cause had yet to be determined but the source said Washington was not ruling out the possibility that the blast may be linked to a nuclear test.
China was the last country to set off an above-ground nuclear test, in 1980. It carried out its last nuclear test in 1996 and has since observed a self-imposed moratorium on testing.
Yonhap quoted other unnamed officials as saying it was probably not an accident, although it also quoted one source in Washington as saying it was unlikely to have been a nuclear test. It quoted another source as saying it could be a forest fire.
Yonhap reported a mushroom cloud up to 2.5 miles in diameter was spotted after the blast in remote Ryanggang province in the country's far northeast near to known missile bases.
The New York Times reported in its Sunday editions the Bush administration had received recent intelligence reports that some experts believed could indicate North Korea was preparing to conduct its first nuclear weapons test explosion.
Train wagons exploded at the Ryongchon railway station on April 22, killing 170 and injuring an estimated 1,300. The blast was believed to have been caused by a train loaded with oil and chemicals hitting a power line. (Additional reporting by Arshad Mohammed in Washington and Isabel Reynolds in Tokyo).
...any more than you can expect to kill every monster in a video game: sooner or later, one is going to defeat you...
Not if I activated the god code!
9 out of 10 script kiddies endorse this TC0 analysis and it will be official.
When you have a OS that contains a "feature" of allowing your box to be infected by a worm within 1 minute of being connected to the net, without a doubt, yes I must agree that Windows does have a lower TC0. A lower TC0 for the individual(s) that rooted your box yes. What would be real funny if Microsoft caught wind of that "study" and actually quoted from it for their little "Get The Facts Straight" campaign without realizing its true intention. ;)
Quick little "Hello World" in C#:
using System;
class Hello
{
static void Main() {
Console.WriteLine("hello world");
}
}
You can look through the ECMA document for a Hello World example. Also check out last months Ars Technica Linux.Ars article on Mono as it provides a couple of examples too.
Sorry, but Mono does not perform miracles.
What is it with the hatred for this man? I swear some you act like he is the anti-christ for what he is attempting to accomplish with the Mono project.
.Net apps on other operating systems.
1. No one is forcing anyone to use Mono or run
2. Try to look at the advantages that the OSS and Linux communities can utilize here if we can convince more developers to develop apps for Linux due to the existance of Mono.
3. Mono and Miguel are not going anywhere so all the folks in the anti-mono crowd might as well get use to it.
So why use Google Zeitgeist to make a case if this is so? Not all computer users use google. As you can see from the other graphs on their site, the majority of google users are English speaking. That right there already taints its effectiveness as a tool to show the current desktop marketshare around the world. Zeitgeist does not account for every single computer desktop out there, especially those of many international users nor those that can't access Google. What about people that can't even use the internet.
First they demand a fee for Linux and now they are raising the license fee!?! What are they going to do next sue their customers? Oh wait...
I was $199 away from getting that license and now this happens! Looks like I need to go find(create) some security holes in Mozilla to pay for the increase in SCO's Linux fee.
So when does the pron version of this come out? Come on! I know I am not the only one who sees the subtle refernces to pron in that article!
I cannot be the only one that finds the title of this /. article amusing. So I guess all the complaints over the years regarding the security vulnerabilities in their software and the outcries of people annoyed by their business practices didn't have the same or greater negative impact on their "image" as has this "monopoly battle"?
For some reason the thought of a thousand BSODs popping up on a single PC at warp speed entered my mind when I saw the title.
So if I find a serious bug in Mozilla, they will pay me $500? So then that means all I need is $199 more to pay SCO to be able to use Linux with a more secure Firefox? YIPPIE!!
But does it run Linux?