Is this the same logic that says the problem of Mexican drugs being imported into the US is the US's fault? Sure, there needs to be demand, but this is a bit like saying that murderers wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for all of these *living* people around!
Honestly, I believe the problem needs to be solved on both sides of the border. Americans are willing to pay a fraction of what they would to a local, to do a menial job. Mexicans are willing to risk life and limb just to get a chance to do that job. Something is very wrong with every part of this situation.
wait, you almost suggested a socialist idea, and you know that's bad thinking these days.
I mean, imagine a world where everyone had a home and food and didn't have to go without the basic necessities? Where everyone had access to healthcare and schooling?
Though now that I think a little more, a spam attack on your eyeballs could be troubling...
People always think of the best outcome when a new technology is created, forgetting the cesspool we call humanity that's going to use and pervert it. The day you have bionic eyes is the day people start paying good money to augment your "virtual reality" to replace competitors advertisements, add advertisements onto everyday objects surrepticiously, and what you'll end up with is drowning in useless information just as much now, sitting at your keyboard reading this, except you won't be able to unplug.
um, if you took the contacts out, you'd be unplugged.
I mean, seriously, they are contact lenses, not new eyeballs.
If a game comes with DRM that you don't like, you really mustn't buy it. If you do, it rewards Ubisoft or EA or whoever, and the DRM scheme will either be used again or made worse!
Pirating the game sends the same message. The publishers do have some idea of the numbers of peopls who are copying their games, and if there are many more than expected, then the DRM scheme will be made worse!
Therefore, it's very important to check the "Requirements" for a game before you buy, even if your PC will clearly be capable of running it. Respectable stores like Steam will warn you about the types of DRM used by the game in clear terms, and you can decide whether it's too much. This information isn't in large text in the centre of the screen as it should be ("Warning: SecuROM", "Danger - Game Published By Ubisoft") but it's there, and these days you must always check for it.
Can you fight DRM with patience? Well, yes or no, it's your only option. Voting with your wallet is your only way to discourage this sort of thing. Eventually the price will be lowered and (maybe) the DRM will be removed to pick up extra sales. Then you win.
ROFL dude, you are funny.
did you ever stop to think the numbers they produce about their pirated software is fake? There is NO WAY for them to find out how many people pirate their software. None.
Even if no one pirated software anymore, they'd still say they lose money to pirates.
Blaming piracy is the scapegoat the industry uses for everything. Didn't sell well? Oh, the pirates! We aren't making enough money? Oh, the pirates! What, I got VD? Oh, the pirates!
The gaming and software companies (even music and video) never have had control over their products as they are trying so hard to get now. you'd buy a game, then play wherever you could. now though, they want you to play it under their terms, under their conditions, because your a criminal if you don't?
Fuck ya, I'm a criminal.
This all comes down to control, and honestly, it's big corporations against the people. They feel that we should be giving them money all the time, for everything, even though it's never been like that before. They blame the pirates, even though games have been pirated since they started producing them. You can't tell me any video game producing company didn't know that games have been pirated since they first came out.
Games have become such huge business surrounded by such huge marketing hype that the games companies can now basically do what they like.
They don't care about the "intelligent gamers" who sit on the fence for a while after a game is released, read reviews & see what problems there are before they think about buying it - they're interested in the fanbois and the screaming kids who force their parents to queue up at midnight on release day, ultimately it's about how many copies are sold in the first couple of weeks.
Screaming kids don't care about DRM and fanbois will find a way of rationalising the inconvenience of DRM into something that is good.
I'm still disgusted with myself that even though Fallout 3 is one of the best and most absorbing games I have ever played, I still put up with having to insert my game DVD into the drive every time I play it, even though I log into Windows Live each time and have already purchased some of the DLC.
With that said, I waited about a year after release before I bought it and even then the game was suffering from some fairly bad crashes due to bugs in it.
Thats weird. Because I don't like having to put a DVD in the drive to play any games, I get them cracked. NoDVD cracks are very popular.
While I understand what your saying, I don't understand why you can't just use google to get a nodvd crack for your games. www.gamecopyworld.com is my fav.
Seriously, I think alot of you like to just bitch about it, but accept it.
While on console games it's accepted that you need to put a disk in to play it, on PC's that's just bullshit. What the companies really want is for that dvd to become unusable, so you'll have to buy another copy of the game. not cool.
I'm not saying any DRM is good, because it all sucks and is a waste. But you peeps that are bitching about it, then using it need to either stfu, or accept your sheep.
Message to dgatwood: The government has plenty to hide. I'm sure that there are plenty of things that some people in our government know that should not be known by many (most, if not all) people outside of some agencies. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there aren't things that should be disclosed, the government is run by people, people seek power, power corrupts and all that, but there are definitely reasons that the government SHOULD have some secrets.
Sorry, i disagree. The Government shouldn't have any secrets. At all. They work for the people.
Blizzard (possibly the most evil gaming company to convert from awesome indie hood to 1984), will almost definitely try to do tiered access the same way they do with WoW, oh you didn't buy the expansion? Well you don't have to, but you will be the handicapped of Azeroth with no special parking, to the point that not buying the expansions means you've completely wasted all the time money you DID invest.
Um, thats because WoW is a MMORPG. To you, just buying the main game and not the expansion may seem like you got shafted, but you didn't. The game has evolved past that first release.
I don't play WoW, I play eq2, and you don't buy expansions anymore. you buy the whole game again. guess this way, new peeps get access to all the stuff, but sort of sucks to have to cough up an extra $40 every year to year and a half.
The point is, it's not DLC (DownLoad Content? DeLayed Content? DollarLeach Content?) if it's on the disk. you shouldn't have to pay extra for crap they already finished.
Ummm.... I see you ignore the fact that major portions of our manufacturing capability have been moved offshore. When was the last time you bought a TV made in the US? When was the last time you bought a major household appliance that was manufactured entirely in the US? How about a car? How long has it been since the majority of steel used in the US was made here?
And the poor got poorer. Nothing new to see here, move along.
It's criminal, though isn't it? Millions of people are out of work, thousands are losing their homes, a majority of Americans have so little in savings that a single illness can put them over the edge into poverty, and yet, all these guys, despite a huge recession, saw their fortunes go UP.
Sure,I can game on my phone, but I don't. The battery honestly just can't take it. I like to have my phone do the phone stuff, I like that I can check the internet if I need to. What I don't like is having to recharge my phone every 4-6 hours because gaming/video's drain the battery.
When you (as in the clever people adding all this extra crap to phones) can actually make a battery that can handle all that stuff, then I'll be down to game on my cell phone.
Till then, I just carry my dingoo around also. (for those that don't know, dingoo a320 is a portable emulator about the size of the bottom of a DS.)
I understand the need to have a "all in one" device, but until the battery life problem gets solved, we won't get there. (of course, not standing any new tech like reduces the power of such devices)
While some of you are making fun of a government ran isp, you are missing the point.
The Government should be taking care of: The internet, the phone, the cable, the power, healthcare, etc...
The Government should be keeping the infostructure running. We are in charge of our government.
Instead, we let the government run us, and they reinforce the notion by letting us think the gov makes shoddy products.
Do I have a socialist view? maybe, but here's the kicker:
communist and socialism haven't worked because the peeps in the government don't want to give up power. solution is simple. Everyone works for the government for 1/2 of their work week. No more lifetime senators or any positions. You do your term, then you move on to something else in the gov.
If your going to go socialist, you go the whole way.
If we are talking console, then it would be tied to an account. make a new account, boom.
If we are talking PC, then it's leaving a trace somewhere, which will get cracked.
Sounds to me companies are just trying to think of new things to patent, not actually thinking about the practical side of it. Sure, sounds good to the board of directors, but in the real world?
Maybe they should spend the money and time into making fun games that aren't repeats of everything else? Don't make a game thats fun for a few levels, then boring as hell afterwords.
And before you say "A DDoS wouldn't be UBIsoft's fault": Deliberately and needlessly introducing a single point of failure to your system is patently dumb, and most definitly the fault of the party that introduced it if it fails.
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When I was a kid, I had various paper routes for years.
Funny thing now is, i don't see kids with paper routes. I see adults with a car doing a full time jobs worth of paper routes.
are the adults illegal aliens? I don't know, but they might play that song on the radio.
Oh ya, Genesis. I went there.
Is this the same logic that says the problem of Mexican drugs being imported into the US is the US's fault? Sure, there needs to be demand, but this is a bit like saying that murderers wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for all of these *living* people around!
Honestly, I believe the problem needs to be solved on both sides of the border. Americans are willing to pay a fraction of what they would to a local, to do a menial job. Mexicans are willing to risk life and limb just to get a chance to do that job. Something is very wrong with every part of this situation.
wait, you almost suggested a socialist idea, and you know that's bad thinking these days.
I mean, imagine a world where everyone had a home and food and didn't have to go without the basic necessities? Where everyone had access to healthcare and schooling?
when this all fails, they are going to blame it on piracy anyways.
In fact, they know 3d won't work, they are just going to use it to get more DRM hooks into us.
As of 10/06/03, I hate COBOL developers
As of the 10th of June 1903 you hate COBOL developers?
That's October 6, 1903.
Though now that I think a little more, a spam attack on your eyeballs could be troubling...
People always think of the best outcome when a new technology is created, forgetting the cesspool we call humanity that's going to use and pervert it. The day you have bionic eyes is the day people start paying good money to augment your "virtual reality" to replace competitors advertisements, add advertisements onto everyday objects surrepticiously, and what you'll end up with is drowning in useless information just as much now, sitting at your keyboard reading this, except you won't be able to unplug.
um, if you took the contacts out, you'd be unplugged.
I mean, seriously, they are contact lenses, not new eyeballs.
=)
If a game comes with DRM that you don't like, you really mustn't buy it. If you do, it rewards Ubisoft or EA or whoever, and the DRM scheme will either be used again or made worse!
Pirating the game sends the same message. The publishers do have some idea of the numbers of peopls who are copying their games, and if there are many more than expected, then the DRM scheme will be made worse!
Therefore, it's very important to check the "Requirements" for a game before you buy, even if your PC will clearly be capable of running it. Respectable stores like Steam will warn you about the types of DRM used by the game in clear terms, and you can decide whether it's too much. This information isn't in large text in the centre of the screen as it should be ("Warning: SecuROM", "Danger - Game Published By Ubisoft") but it's there, and these days you must always check for it.
Can you fight DRM with patience? Well, yes or no, it's your only option. Voting with your wallet is your only way to discourage this sort of thing. Eventually the price will be lowered and (maybe) the DRM will be removed to pick up extra sales. Then you win.
ROFL dude, you are funny.
did you ever stop to think the numbers they produce about their pirated software is fake? There is NO WAY for them to find out how many people pirate their software. None.
Even if no one pirated software anymore, they'd still say they lose money to pirates.
Blaming piracy is the scapegoat the industry uses for everything. Didn't sell well? Oh, the pirates! We aren't making enough money? Oh, the pirates! What, I got VD? Oh, the pirates!
The gaming and software companies (even music and video) never have had control over their products as they are trying so hard to get now. you'd buy a game, then play wherever you could. now though, they want you to play it under their terms, under their conditions, because your a criminal if you don't?
Fuck ya, I'm a criminal.
This all comes down to control, and honestly, it's big corporations against the people. They feel that we should be giving them money all the time, for everything, even though it's never been like that before. They blame the pirates, even though games have been pirated since they started producing them. You can't tell me any video game producing company didn't know that games have been pirated since they first came out.
Games have become such huge business surrounded by such huge marketing hype that the games companies can now basically do what they like.
They don't care about the "intelligent gamers" who sit on the fence for a while after a game is released, read reviews & see what problems there are before they think about buying it - they're interested in the fanbois and the screaming kids who force their parents to queue up at midnight on release day, ultimately it's about how many copies are sold in the first couple of weeks.
Screaming kids don't care about DRM and fanbois will find a way of rationalising the inconvenience of DRM into something that is good.
I'm still disgusted with myself that even though Fallout 3 is one of the best and most absorbing games I have ever played, I still put up with having to insert my game DVD into the drive every time I play it, even though I log into Windows Live each time and have already purchased some of the DLC.
With that said, I waited about a year after release before I bought it and even then the game was suffering from some fairly bad crashes due to bugs in it.
Thats weird. Because I don't like having to put a DVD in the drive to play any games, I get them cracked. NoDVD cracks are very popular.
While I understand what your saying, I don't understand why you can't just use google to get a nodvd crack for your games.
www.gamecopyworld.com is my fav.
Seriously, I think alot of you like to just bitch about it, but accept it.
While on console games it's accepted that you need to put a disk in to play it, on PC's that's just bullshit. What the companies really want is for that dvd to become unusable, so you'll have to buy another copy of the game. not cool.
I'm not saying any DRM is good, because it all sucks and is a waste. But you peeps that are bitching about it, then using it need to either stfu, or accept your sheep.
I'm a gamer and I don't have to deal with drm.
Same with my movies and music.
Why?
Because I have a brain and either don't buy crap with drm, or break the drm on it.
My games? get cracked.
My music? never.
My videos? oh, hell no.
Granted I don't really buy new music anymore, but when I do, it's cd's. drmless cd's.
DVD's, they get ripped. now, though, I do like bluray movies, but hey, those get ripped too!
Of course, they say i'm a pirate and stealing from them, but the way I see it, they are dickwads and stealing from me.
Don't buy stuff with DRM. if you want it, download it for free, but don't give the companies that are using DRM any money.
Message to dgatwood: The government has plenty to hide. I'm sure that there are plenty of things that some people in our government know that should not be known by many (most, if not all) people outside of some agencies. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there aren't things that should be disclosed, the government is run by people, people seek power, power corrupts and all that, but there are definitely reasons that the government SHOULD have some secrets.
Sorry, i disagree. The Government shouldn't have any secrets. At all. They work for the people.
Okay Mr. Blizzard Troll Fanboy, I'll bite.
Blizzard (possibly the most evil gaming company to convert from awesome indie hood to 1984), will almost definitely try to do tiered access the same way they do with WoW, oh you didn't buy the expansion? Well you don't have to, but you will be the handicapped of Azeroth with no special parking, to the point that not buying the expansions means you've completely wasted all the time money you DID invest.
Um, thats because WoW is a MMORPG. To you, just buying the main game and not the expansion may seem like you got shafted, but you didn't. The game has evolved past that first release.
I don't play WoW, I play eq2, and you don't buy expansions anymore. you buy the whole game again. guess this way, new peeps get access to all the stuff, but sort of sucks to have to cough up an extra $40 every year to year and a half.
The point is, it's not DLC (DownLoad Content? DeLayed Content? DollarLeach Content?) if it's on the disk. you shouldn't have to pay extra for crap they already finished.
Ummm.... I see you ignore the fact that major portions of our manufacturing capability have been moved offshore. When was the last time you bought a TV made in the US? When was the last time you bought a major household appliance that was manufactured entirely in the US? How about a car? How long has it been since the majority of steel used in the US was made here?
yep, and this is the start of our downfall...
Have you even seen what octopuses have done to Japanese schoolgirls?
Yeah. 'Nuff said.
mmm, tentacle porn...
Teach them Logo, it was good enough when I was a kid.
And the poor got poorer. Nothing new to see here, move along.
It's criminal, though isn't it? Millions of people are out of work, thousands are losing their homes, a majority of Americans have so little in savings that a single illness can put them over the edge into poverty, and yet, all these guys, despite a huge recession, saw their fortunes go UP.
Go figure.
that is capitalism, at it's best.
Yes, it's nice to have a handful of super-wealthy people to ensure that not EVERYONE is poor.
be careful, that sounds like socialist talk...
This man is obviously stressed out and possibly mentally ill. Still think he should go to jail though.
Yes, send dude to jail so we can pay for his existance.
jail is obviously the answer to every crime, seeing as it stops crime.
Blasters make more gory fights.
Phasers just makes the targets disappear.
use blasters if you need to leave a mess for someone, Phasers if you don't want anyone knowing what you did.
If you got damp maps, put them in the freezer, in some sort of freezer proof bag. it will draw the water out.
I don't want gaming on my cell phone.
Sure,I can game on my phone, but I don't. The battery honestly just can't take it. I like to have my phone do the phone stuff, I like that I can check the internet if I need to. What I don't like is having to recharge my phone every 4-6 hours because gaming/video's drain the battery.
When you (as in the clever people adding all this extra crap to phones) can actually make a battery that can handle all that stuff, then I'll be down to game on my cell phone.
Till then, I just carry my dingoo around also. (for those that don't know, dingoo a320 is a portable emulator about the size of the bottom of a DS.)
I understand the need to have a "all in one" device, but until the battery life problem gets solved, we won't get there. (of course, not standing any new tech like reduces the power of such devices)
While some of you are making fun of a government ran isp, you are missing the point.
The Government should be taking care of: The internet, the phone, the cable, the power, healthcare, etc...
The Government should be keeping the infostructure running. We are in charge of our government.
Instead, we let the government run us, and they reinforce the notion by letting us think the gov makes shoddy products.
Do I have a socialist view? maybe, but here's the kicker:
communist and socialism haven't worked because the peeps in the government don't want to give up power. solution is simple. Everyone works for the government for 1/2 of their work week. No more lifetime senators or any positions. You do your term, then you move on to something else in the gov.
If your going to go socialist, you go the whole way.
lets see:
If we are talking console, then it would be tied to an account. make a new account, boom.
If we are talking PC, then it's leaving a trace somewhere, which will get cracked.
Sounds to me companies are just trying to think of new things to patent, not actually thinking about the practical side of it. Sure, sounds good to the board of directors, but in the real world?
Maybe they should spend the money and time into making fun games that aren't repeats of everything else? Don't make a game thats fun for a few levels, then boring as hell afterwords.
oh, nm, you don't listen to me.
You do NOT use your business/personal bank account for paypal deposits.
You open a totally seperate account, then move money out of it when it comes in. This way, if Paypal freezes it, it doesn't hurt ya.
Dude isn't earning an income and is costing her?
Damn straight she should of pulled the plug.
what, too soon?
It doesn't really matter to the user, does it?
And before you say "A DDoS wouldn't be UBIsoft's fault": Deliberately and needlessly introducing a single point of failure to your system is patently dumb, and most definitly the fault of the party that introduced it if it fails.
DDoS are an act of God*
*Gamers offing DRM
Now when I "find" your iphone, I not only can find out where you live, but I can use it to access your house.