McVoy is making money off the fact that Linus uses BK. He in fact is not giving his product away for free, but for an extremely valuable marketing resource. How much do you think it would be worth it to IBM -- or Microsoft? To say the Linus uses their product?
Second, RedHat doesn't make their money by developing proprietary products and threatening to change protocols every six months just to confound copycats.
First, I thought a lot of patches were sent as BK links, not as email patches. Second, how can the revision history be extracted from the BK archives iif the BK archives are locked up? What happens if, say, Microsoft buys out BK?
Creationist: My guess is valid because I say so and because My Book says so and because My Book was written thousands of years ago and nothing since is as good.
Scientist: My guess is valid because of these reasons, this logic, this immense mesh of other reasons which all hang together by logic.
Hmmmm.... that's a difficult choice... now if you want to argue faith, go ahead, but don't argue logic based on a book full of contradictions written thousands of years ago.
I did speak for myself, apparently you didn't see it... why don't you go back now and reread what I wrote, go on, I'll wait.
Further, when I hurt and bleed and spend money to use that precious bucket, you can be damned sure I'm going to have a lot to say about when and how it's used. And if everybody else on the block refuses to buy their own buckets, or has useless dinky rusty buckets which wouldn't put out a doghouse fire, and when the rest of the block says I HAVE to use the bucket at their whim, and won't help pay for it or maintain my bucket...
Then fuck 'em all. I am sick and tired of saving the rest of the block. When you wake me up in the middle of the night for some fire you could put out yourselves (Balkans 1990s), and whine and moan about my bucket technique the rest of the time, I would just as soon let the rest of the block burn down, and put out my own fires, thankyouverymuch.
In case you don't get it yet, go piss up a rope with your hyprocisy, get your own damned buckets and stop trying to tell me what to do with mine.
I specifically said I personally wish we had a much smaller defensive only military which I guess you sorta skipped right on over.
And as for this... Japan is FORBIDDEN from commissioning anything other than a defensive-only military... as if the US, having set up for them the constitution in 1951, still controls it. Had nothing to do with the surrender, which was in August 1945.
And as for not wanted, that's the funniest part. France and England sure as hell wanted our help eariler than 1917, and 1941, and there's the interesting bit in the 1990s Balkans, where France threw a hissy fit and said they would do nothing in the Balkans unless we ponied up the majority of the troops. That was so funny I cried. France, not wanting to do a damned thing in the very region which started WW I, telling us, who they despise so much, that we had to come rescue their ass once more, in their very own backyard, or they woudln't even help themselves. Say, isn't the peac agreement that stopped most of the fighting named, uhh, the Dayton Accord, after... uhhh... some American city, where the talks were held? Not the Paris Accord, or Berlin Accord, or London Accord?
So, which part of history don't you understand? The part about the rest of the world wanting us to be the policeman sure stands out. We've done our own share of volunteering, which I think is a damn shame. We ought to let idiots like you do your own dying. But seems to me, you lazy sods with the piss poor defense budgets and armies opened up many cans of worms many times with your screams for help, and if you don't like us volunteering some of the time, and piss and moan when we don't volunteer to your liking the rest of the time, well, you opened a lot of the cans yourselves, your hypocrisy is at least as bad as ours.
There are several reasons to build this, and they apply to the next one, and the one after that...
Start for now by assuming that we need aircraft carriers. One, ships wear out. This is replacing a slower smaller worn out ship. Two, once you stop building them, the industrial base moves on to other skills, and you can't just pick up where you left off. To use an interesting analogy, we could not now build a battleship -- the technology to build 16 inches of armor does not exist. The tools to build the tools do not exist.
As for whether or not we need carriers... I personally wish we had a much smaller defensive only military. But that's a political decision. The world wants us to be its policeman, their only quibble is where and when. Our political leaders haven't got the guts to tell the rest of the world to police themselves, or to tell Europe and Japan to start carrying their own weight, so for the time being, yes, we are the world's policeman.
Carriers are pretty useful for that role. The air force has been trying ever since the 1914 war to keep all the airplanes to themselves and get rid of naval airplanes. They constantly claim to have long range bombers which can do the job. But they never have had them, don't have them now, and aren't likely to for a long long time. A carrier 100 miles off a coast can respond faster than a bomber halfway around the world. A carrier can relocate itself pretty quickly. A moving target 1000 feet long is easier to hide than a stationary target 10,000 feet long.
I was quoted $1.25 per sq ft several years ago. Even if prices have gone up to $2 sq ft, that's only 1 or 2 percent of the total cost. Pretty cheap for good protection.
Also, the very fact that you are thinking of Halon implies you want to put the fire out and preserve everything. That's a nice goal, but computers are cheap and easily replaced, and presumably you have offsite backup storage.
The point of fire protection is to give occupants time to get out and to stop the fire from spreading. Saving the structure itself is a nice side benefit. Saving minor contents is pure gravy.
Give everyone points per week, either same for everybody or based on seniority. Then set up a schedule in advance, whoever has the most points gets the duty. When duty is taken, points are removed. People can of course volunteer for duty, and if multiple ones do, low points get first choice. Allow points to go negative.
Or something like that. I'm sure it could be an interesting exercise designing the points system and implementing a web page to handle it.
One more thing, you need some kind of deadline, no changing your mind within a week of duty. But if you get someone to swap, allow that.
Now if you are going to pay for the duty, you want the weekly points awarded based on how much different shifts cost. Maybe factor in seniority also.
This one handles every format I've heard of, inlcuding DVD-RAM in cartridges, which I've been using for backup the last month. I haven't tried all the formats yet, but the ones I care about work.
They claim it is OEM with no software. Mine came with a CD-ROM of Windows software, and a DVD-ROM of some sort, but it works fine on Linux 2.4.21, and I have no use for the Windows disc.
The GPL does not prevent you from selling the same code you own under a proprietary license. This is exactly the same as any other license. No difference.
The original poster was complaining that having given away his code, he could not expect anything in return -- Not a salary, not an occasional trip, not even acknowledgement. There is no difference here between the GPL and other licenses. Once you've shown the code, you've shown the code. You'll have exactly the same problem making money from the GPL'd code as code released under any other license, since you are the copyright owner.
Now if you get GPL code from somebody else, things are different, and I see it as a good difference. If I release code under the GPL, I am the only one who can also release it under a proprietary license and make money from it. With other licenses, anybody down the chain can make money.
Tell me, please, how the GPL differs here from any other free source license. With all of them, anybody can make changes. Whether GPL, BSD or public domain, you have allowed others to make changes to your code base. The only difference I see is that with the GPL, you get to see their changes. The others all hide it under the rug.
Seems to me this says a whole lot more about you and what you want to know than it does about the licenses.
The only difference in this regard between BSD, Artistic, and plain old public domain is that with the GPL, you see the changes others make. With any other license, you may never even know what projects or to what purposes it has been ported and how it has changed.
So tell us, why do you hate the GPL so much? Because it forces honesty?
In the USA, there's a little matter of the constitution requiring reasonable cause for search and seizure. I doubt pulling someone over just to get a speed reading from the last 15 minutes would pass muster. And if the cop said he had just tailed you and that was his probable cause... so, dump his readings too, see if his speed came even close to matching yours... a few little lies like that would wreck their little scheme.
I am all in favor of cop cameras, so as long as cop cars have these tattle tales also, it's wonderful. How many times have you followed cops around who don't come to full stops, who speed without lights or siren, who generally get away with bad driving even when just cruising? Remember about two edged swords.
Some peddler^Wsalesman running Intel will no doubt formulate his own version of the sales curve. Seems like the peddlers always take over, even the fun stuff.
Assuming you're not trolling... it's called abuse of a monopoly position, predatory pricing, probably some legal term I don't know, and it is distinctly illegal for a monopoly to price its products to drive the competition out of business. This is about as basic a monopoly abuse as there is.
Horse riding experts fear that the wild popularity of bicycles, particularly among kids, could erase horse usage within a few decades. With 90% of Americans betwwen the ages of 5 and 17 using bicycles, it's not uncommon for kids to ride along at 10-15 mph by the time they leave elementary school. Shift levers, brake levers, and water bottles have ruined kids' ability to hold reins properly, let alone ride safely, says the former president of the International Association of Master Riders, Cowboys, and Soldiers of Cavalry.
What makes cursive so important? Doctors could certainly do without it.
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McVoy is making money off the fact that Linus uses BK. He in fact is not giving his product away for free, but for an extremely valuable marketing resource. How much do you think it would be worth it to IBM -- or Microsoft? To say the Linus uses their product?
Second, RedHat doesn't make their money by developing proprietary products and threatening to change protocols every six months just to confound copycats.
The name you want is McVoy. McVeigh was the OK city federal building bomber.
First, I thought a lot of patches were sent as BK links, not as email patches. Second, how can the revision history be extracted from the BK archives iif the BK archives are locked up? What happens if, say, Microsoft buys out BK?
It has been scientifically proven. I refer you to The Annals of Improbable Research, for research that can not, or should not, be reproduced.
Creationist: My guess is valid because I say so and because My Book says so and because My Book was written thousands of years ago and nothing since is as good.
.... that's a difficult choice ... now if you want to argue faith, go ahead, but don't argue logic based on a book full of contradictions written thousands of years ago.
Scientist: My guess is valid because of these reasons, this logic, this immense mesh of other reasons which all hang together by logic.
Hmmmm
I did speak for myself, apparently you didn't see it ... why don't you go back now and reread what I wrote, go on, I'll wait.
...
Further, when I hurt and bleed and spend money to use that precious bucket, you can be damned sure I'm going to have a lot to say about when and how it's used. And if everybody else on the block refuses to buy their own buckets, or has useless dinky rusty buckets which wouldn't put out a doghouse fire, and when the rest of the block says I HAVE to use the bucket at their whim, and won't help pay for it or maintain my bucket
Then fuck 'em all. I am sick and tired of saving the rest of the block. When you wake me up in the middle of the night for some fire you could put out yourselves (Balkans 1990s), and whine and moan about my bucket technique the rest of the time, I would just as soon let the rest of the block burn down, and put out my own fires, thankyouverymuch.
In case you don't get it yet, go piss up a rope with your hyprocisy, get your own damned buckets and stop trying to tell me what to do with mine.
I specifically said I personally wish we had a much smaller defensive only military which I guess you sorta skipped right on over.
... Japan is FORBIDDEN from commissioning anything other than a defensive-only military ... as if the US, having set up for them the constitution in 1951, still controls it. Had nothing to do with the surrender, which was in August 1945.
... uhhh ... some American city, where the talks were held? Not the Paris Accord, or Berlin Accord, or London Accord?
And as for this
And as for not wanted, that's the funniest part. France and England sure as hell wanted our help eariler than 1917, and 1941, and there's the interesting bit in the 1990s Balkans, where France threw a hissy fit and said they would do nothing in the Balkans unless we ponied up the majority of the troops. That was so funny I cried. France, not wanting to do a damned thing in the very region which started WW I, telling us, who they despise so much, that we had to come rescue their ass once more, in their very own backyard, or they woudln't even help themselves. Say, isn't the peac agreement that stopped most of the fighting named, uhh, the Dayton Accord, after
So, which part of history don't you understand? The part about the rest of the world wanting us to be the policeman sure stands out. We've done our own share of volunteering, which I think is a damn shame. We ought to let idiots like you do your own dying. But seems to me, you lazy sods with the piss poor defense budgets and armies opened up many cans of worms many times with your screams for help, and if you don't like us volunteering some of the time, and piss and moan when we don't volunteer to your liking the rest of the time, well, you opened a lot of the cans yourselves, your hypocrisy is at least as bad as ours.
There are several reasons to build this, and they apply to the next one, and the one after that ...
... I personally wish we had a much smaller defensive only military. But that's a political decision. The world wants us to be its policeman, their only quibble is where and when. Our political leaders haven't got the guts to tell the rest of the world to police themselves, or to tell Europe and Japan to start carrying their own weight, so for the time being, yes, we are the world's policeman.
Start for now by assuming that we need aircraft carriers. One, ships wear out. This is replacing a slower smaller worn out ship. Two, once you stop building them, the industrial base moves on to other skills, and you can't just pick up where you left off. To use an interesting analogy, we could not now build a battleship -- the technology to build 16 inches of armor does not exist. The tools to build the tools do not exist.
As for whether or not we need carriers
Carriers are pretty useful for that role. The air force has been trying ever since the 1914 war to keep all the airplanes to themselves and get rid of naval airplanes. They constantly claim to have long range bombers which can do the job. But they never have had them, don't have them now, and aren't likely to for a long long time. A carrier 100 miles off a coast can respond faster than a bomber halfway around the world. A carrier can relocate itself pretty quickly. A moving target 1000 feet long is easier to hide than a stationary target 10,000 feet long.
So there. All you weenies stuck at 10, I have no pity for you.
I was quoted $1.25 per sq ft several years ago. Even if prices have gone up to $2 sq ft, that's only 1 or 2 percent of the total cost. Pretty cheap for good protection.
Also, the very fact that you are thinking of Halon implies you want to put the fire out and preserve everything. That's a nice goal, but computers are cheap and easily replaced, and presumably you have offsite backup storage.
The point of fire protection is to give occupants time to get out and to stop the fire from spreading. Saving the structure itself is a nice side benefit. Saving minor contents is pure gravy.
Give everyone points per week, either same for everybody or based on seniority. Then set up a schedule in advance, whoever has the most points gets the duty. When duty is taken, points are removed. People can of course volunteer for duty, and if multiple ones do, low points get first choice. Allow points to go negative.
Or something like that. I'm sure it could be an interesting exercise designing the points system and implementing a web page to handle it.
One more thing, you need some kind of deadline, no changing your mind within a week of duty. But if you get someone to swap, allow that.
Now if you are going to pay for the duty, you want the weekly points awarded based on how much different shifts cost. Maybe factor in seniority also.
This one handles every format I've heard of, inlcuding DVD-RAM in cartridges, which I've been using for backup the last month. I haven't tried all the formats yet, but the ones I care about work.
They claim it is OEM with no software. Mine came with a CD-ROM of Windows software, and a DVD-ROM of some sort, but it works fine on Linux 2.4.21, and I have no use for the Windows disc.
Headline says Nextel Patents ... but the blurb says Nextel announced that it had been awarded a primary trademark ... and a Secondary trademark ...
Geez, guys, think you could throw in a little consistency here?
Keerist in a teacup.
The GPL does not prevent you from selling the same code you own under a proprietary license. This is exactly the same as any other license. No difference.
The original poster was complaining that having given away his code, he could not expect anything in return -- Not a salary, not an occasional trip, not even acknowledgement. There is no difference here between the GPL and other licenses. Once you've shown the code, you've shown the code. You'll have exactly the same problem making money from the GPL'd code as code released under any other license, since you are the copyright owner.
Now if you get GPL code from somebody else, things are different, and I see it as a good difference. If I release code under the GPL, I am the only one who can also release it under a proprietary license and make money from it. With other licenses, anybody down the chain can make money.
Tell me, please, how the GPL differs here from any other free source license. With all of them, anybody can make changes. Whether GPL, BSD or public domain, you have allowed others to make changes to your code base. The only difference I see is that with the GPL, you get to see their changes. The others all hide it under the rug.
Seems to me this says a whole lot more about you and what you want to know than it does about the licenses.
The only difference in this regard between BSD, Artistic, and plain old public domain is that with the GPL, you see the changes others make. With any other license, you may never even know what projects or to what purposes it has been ported and how it has changed.
So tell us, why do you hate the GPL so much? Because it forces honesty?
and that means more nerves and more brain to handle all that extra input.
I think you mean Orin Hatch, not the RIAA ...
Hit the brakes, leave skid marks ... is that self incrimination?
... is the type and amount of damage self incrimination?
... is that self incrimination?
... is that self incrimination?
Smash up the car pretty badly
Fire a gun, ballistics match up
Leave blood at a scene
Fingerprints? Hair samples? Semen? Picture on a bank security camera?
In the USA, there's a little matter of the constitution requiring reasonable cause for search and seizure. I doubt pulling someone over just to get a speed reading from the last 15 minutes would pass muster. And if the cop said he had just tailed you and that was his probable cause ... so, dump his readings too, see if his speed came even close to matching yours ... a few little lies like that would wreck their little scheme.
I am all in favor of cop cameras, so as long as cop cars have these tattle tales also, it's wonderful. How many times have you followed cops around who don't come to full stops, who speed without lights or siren, who generally get away with bad driving even when just cruising? Remember about two edged swords.
That ought to do the trick. Pick some easy to install distro, does loadlin still work on WIndows, well, make a boot floppy if need be.
Some peddler^Wsalesman running Intel will no doubt formulate his own version of the sales curve. Seems like the peddlers always take over, even the fun stuff.
Assuming you're not trolling ... it's called abuse of a monopoly position, predatory pricing, probably some legal term I don't know, and it is distinctly illegal for a monopoly to price its products to drive the competition out of business. This is about as basic a monopoly abuse as there is.
Horse riding experts fear that the wild popularity of bicycles, particularly among kids, could erase horse usage within a few decades. With 90% of Americans betwwen the ages of 5 and 17 using bicycles, it's not uncommon for kids to ride along at 10-15 mph by the time they leave elementary school. Shift levers, brake levers, and water bottles have ruined kids' ability to hold reins properly, let alone ride safely, says the former president of the International Association of Master Riders, Cowboys, and Soldiers of Cavalry.
What makes cursive so important? Doctors could certainly do without it.