"I was sick of hearing people say Java was slow, when I know it's pretty fast, so I took the benchmark code for C++ and Java from the now outdated Great Computer Language Shootout and ran the tests myself."
Go in with a slanted view, return with slanted results. Making Stuff Seem Like It Is Better Than It Really Is 101.
First, BSD is UNIX. It's not a clone of UNIX, it's not a clone of Linux. It has ties to the original UNIX.
Second, Linux is a clone of UNIX. A bad one at that.
Third, QNX is a clone of neither. It's a real-time microkernel. It supports things BSD nor Linux support, such as userland file systems and namespaces. It's an OS you install places where you need quality, something Linux knows nothing about.
I don't see why it would have to be ported. Your actual could would still exist only with what is neded to run it. You could still maintain the program without problems. The only differences there wouldn't be able new versions of Java.
BSD or similar less freedom-guaranteeing licenses would be an awful choice. And if you think Java shouldn't be open source at all, well.. you're just an idiot
You're the idiot. The GPL removes freedom, the BSD grants freedom. Stop buying into the GNU foundations misinformation.
Don't even get me started on your "It's going to happen whether Sun wants it to or not." line.
This is an improper example. Try taking some C source and compile it on both RedHat and SuSE -- same results. Fragmentation would be if RedHat or SuSE modified the Linux kernel or supporting GNU software so much that code would need significantly re-written to work.
Red Hat is modifying the kernel, don't read the headlines? Although it won't effect the userland, try apply many existing patches against the existing Red hat source code. There will be problems.
Not even close. Read this: http://www.xouvert.org/faq.html#2.1 It should be especially noted the strong emphasis on sticking to standards. There are many X11 implementations and they are very much compatible, though some are at different levels of specification advancement.
We'll have to wait and see.
This is an example of diversity, not fragmentation of an original standard. Would you say that there should only be one programming language? I should hope not. Each has its advantages. It should be noted, of course, that there is a growing movement to harmonize GNOME and KDE, but that's another topic of discussion.
It's fragmentation. There's no reason why KDE couldn't have used GTK. But they didn't, and now programs are less portable.
It can be easily argued that the only reason C compilers have extensions like this is because there does not exist as active a standards body as say, W3C or SCP, to recommend changes before they are tried experimentally. There are also different ISO C versions. I believe some of the GNU C "extensions" are actually part of the C99 ISO spec. Solaris's native compilers may be using an older spec, but I'm not familiar. Also, you can use the -pedantic option with gcc and it will warn you of any code that uses extensions beyond C89.
You admit it's fragmentation, good. You're learning.
There is little to make me believe a similar scenario will exist with Open Source Java. The industry has learned since C/C++ the value of creating standards early and then sticking with them. As I said, Open Source developers tend not to deviate when solid standards exist. Java is a solid standard.
Then you're a fool. There are millions of reasons why Java will fragment if it goes open source. The C standards are solid standards, but GNU made extensions anyway. Open source developers do what they want, standards or not.
How much have GNU ClassPath and the various open JVM's hurt Sun and Java? And how much have they deviated from Java specifications? The answer to both is: not at all. If Sun relaxed licensing on code for their implementations, it would only serve to promote their own over the clean-room versions.
Open source zealots would choose an open version over Suns clean-room version. It's what you people do. Sooner or later, the Sun version isn't mainstream.
IBM, for example, could fork the code and really open up to the community. The entire open source community gets behind the IBM version and, after awhile, Sun disappears.
Open Source fragmentation is a myth largely propagated a certain proprietary vendor's FUD campaign. Successful open source projects simply do not fork. Why? Because there's no interest and it's way too difficult with large scale software. There is one GNOME, one KDE, one Apache, one Linux kernel, one GNU Compiler Colection, one OpenOffice, etc. Similarly, an Open Source Java would be a large project with so much momentum that any unlikely attempts to fork would be rapidly ignored and wither away. Not to mention Sun would still hold the Java trademark..
The Linux itself is fragmented across distros. Try taking a Red Hat binary to SuSE, there will be trouble.
There are now 3 projects who will use the X windows standards, and I can tell you there will be fragmentation. Each will try to improve it somehow and bye bye compatibilty.
There may be one GNOME and one KDE, but each use a different GUI toolkit resulting in the same effect as fragmentation.
Wrong again. Open Source developers are terrifically anal about sticking to standards. You don't see a dozen different C compilers each with a slightly different dialect do you? You don't see KHTML or Mozilla trying to extend web standards do you? Even more obvious: You don't see the existing clean-room Open Source Java projects deviating from Sun's specifications do you? -- and they're not even under legal obligation!! Fact is, an Open Source Java is the only way WORA can ever hope to fully live up to its promise. (btw, that's Write Once, not Compile.. minor correction) Three reasons: 1.) more ports 2.) better quality control 3.) less Java implementations floating about, whether proprietary or open.
GCC has it's own extensions, as does the GNU C library. Same goes for gmake. You can't compile software that use these extensions on Solaris using native compilers.
Nobody's trying to force Sun to do anything. They're simply asking because it would be mutually beneficial.
I don't believe bringing Java under an open source license would advance it any way, shape, or form.
Yes, there be ports to other platforms (I'd love to see Java on *BSD). Yes, there'd be performance patches and probably security patches. But with this comes the down side to all open source projects: Fragmentation.
One of Javas goals is to provide compile-once-run-anywhere. At the moment, it does a decent job of doing this. Other platforms do this better (Read: Inferno) but Java is trying. With fragmentation, compile-once-run-anywhere disappears and would be impossible to bring back.
Let Sun has Solaris and Java. Stop trying to force them to open source their software. They already are the second largest contributor of open source software, the first being Berkeley.
DShield and myNatwatchMan do pretty much the same thing, only for all ports instead of just worms. Gives a much better lay-of-the-land for administrators.
I guess you don't know what authpf is. Authpf uses SSH, only when a user authenticates to the firewall authpf is running on, it will open the ports the user need instead of providing them with a shell. When they disconnect from SSH/authpf, the ports are closed again.
To delve deeply into TRON Costume is an exciting adventure. The constantly changing fashionable take on TRON Costume demonstrates the depth of the subject. Though TRON Costume is a favourite topic of discussion amongst monarchs, presidents and dictators, its influence on western cinema has not been given proper recognition. It still has the power to shock the aristocracy, who form the last great hope for our civilzation. Keeping all of this in mind, in this essay I will examine the major issues.
Social Factors
Society begins and ends with TRON Costume. When blues legend 'Bare Foot D' remarked 'awooooh eeee only my dawg understands me' he was clearly refering to the impact of TRON Costume on today's society. While deviating from the norm will always cause unrest amongst ones peers, TRON Costume provides standards by which we may judge our selves.
Nothing represents every day life better than TRON Costume, and I mean nothing. It breaks the mould, shattering man's misunderstanding of man.
Economic Factors
Is unemployment inherently bad for an economy? Yes. We will begin by looking at the JTB-Guide-Dog model using the median instead of the mean, where possible.
Indisputably there is a link. How can this be explained? Well the cost of living has always depended upon TRON Costume to a certain extent, but now more that ever. In the light of this free trade must be examined.
Political Factors
Much of the writings of historians display the conquests of the most powerful nations over less powerful ones. Comparing TRON Costume and much of what has been written of it can be like comparing the vote of the man in the street with that of one more accustomed to TRON Costume.
One quote comes instantly to mind when examining this topic. I mean of course the words of style icon Demetrius Woodpecker 'Taking a walk across hot coals will inevitably hurt your feet.' What a fantastic quote. It is a well known 'secret' that what prompted many politicians to first strive for power was TRON Costume. The question which we must each ask ourselves is, will we allow TRON Costume to win our vote?
Conclusion
In my opinion TRON Costume plays a large part in the lives of all. It fills a hole, 'literally' plants seeds for harvest, and figures show it's a winning formular.
The final say goes to the award winning Uma Zeta-Jones 'My Daddy loved TRON Costume and his Daddy loved TRON Costume.'
The subject of Windows security is a controversial issue. In depth analysis of Windows security can be an enriching experience. Indispensable to homosapians today, it is important to remember that 'what goes up must come down.' It is an unfortunate consequence of our civilizations history that Windows security is rarely given rational consideration by socialists, many of whom fail to comprehend the full scope of Windows security. In the light of this I will break down the issues in order to give each of them the thought that they fully deserve
Social Factors
Society is our own everyday reality. When J H Darcy said 'fevour will spread' she failed to understand that if one seriously intends to 'not judge a book by its cover', then one must read a lot of books. Spanning divides such as class, race and uglyness, Windows security provides standards by which we may judge our selves.
Nothing represents every day life better than Windows security, and I mean nothing. If society has a favourite child, it is Windows security.
Economic Factors
Is unemployment inherently bad for an economy? Yes. We will study the Fish-Out-Of-Water model of economics.
The results displayed in the graph are too clear to be ignored. Clearly the cost of living has always depended upon Windows security to a certain extent, but now more that ever. The economic policy spectrum is seeing a period of unprecedented growth.
Political Factors
Much of the writings of historians display the conquests of the most powerful nations over less powerful ones. Comparing Windows security and much of what has been written of it can be like comparing playing with a puppy and singing with a blackbird.
To quote one of the great political analysts Esperanza H. Amster 'You can lead a horse to water, big deal.' Amazingly, he new nothing of Windows security until he was well into his thirties. To paraphrase, the quote is saying 'Windows security wins votes.' Simple as that. Is Windows security politically correct, in every sense? Each man, woman and to a lesser extent, child, must make up their own mind.
Conclusion
In conclusion, Windows security may not be the best thing since sliced bread, but it's still important. It questions, influences the influencers, and most importantly it perseveres.
What a great essay. Finally a word from super-star Elton Garfunkel: 'Windows security is the new rock and roll! And the new opera!'
Chances are it will never be merged into NetBSD, which is sad because it's a kick ass packet filter. Why? Because one of the core developers is friends with the guy who created the current packet filter.
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Actually a lot of the pages DO require page reloads, you just don't notice it since it's been designed and put together very well.
"I was sick of hearing people say Java was slow, when I know it's pretty fast, so I took the benchmark code for C++ and Java from the now outdated Great Computer Language Shootout and ran the tests myself." Go in with a slanted view, return with slanted results. Making Stuff Seem Like It Is Better Than It Really Is 101.
Get a clue.
First, BSD is UNIX. It's not a clone of UNIX, it's not a clone of Linux. It has ties to the original UNIX.
Second, Linux is a clone of UNIX. A bad one at that.
Third, QNX is a clone of neither. It's a real-time microkernel. It supports things BSD nor Linux support, such as userland file systems and namespaces. It's an OS you install places where you need quality, something Linux knows nothing about.
Get a damn clue.
Plan 9 is downloadable under an open source license. http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/
I don't see why it would have to be ported. Your actual could would still exist only with what is neded to run it. You could still maintain the program without problems. The only differences there wouldn't be able new versions of Java.
Don't even get me started on your "It's going to happen whether Sun wants it to or not." line.
IBM, for example, could fork the code and really open up to the community. The entire open source community gets behind the IBM version and, after awhile, Sun disappears.
There are now 3 projects who will use the X windows standards, and I can tell you there will be fragmentation. Each will try to improve it somehow and bye bye compatibilty.
There may be one GNOME and one KDE, but each use a different GUI toolkit resulting in the same effect as fragmentation.
GCC has it's own extensions, as does the GNU C library. Same goes for gmake. You can't compile software that use these extensions on Solaris using native compilers. No, it would only hurt Sun and Java.How do I get the gold key?
Yes, there be ports to other platforms (I'd love to see Java on *BSD). Yes, there'd be performance patches and probably security patches. But with this comes the down side to all open source projects: Fragmentation.
One of Javas goals is to provide compile-once-run-anywhere. At the moment, it does a decent job of doing this. Other platforms do this better (Read: Inferno) but Java is trying. With fragmentation, compile-once-run-anywhere disappears and would be impossible to bring back.
Let Sun has Solaris and Java. Stop trying to force them to open source their software. They already are the second largest contributor of open source software, the first being Berkeley.
Thanks to the Slashdot effect, you get to see the catalog at 1981 speeds!!!
DShield and myNatwatchMan do pretty much the same thing, only for all ports instead of just worms. Gives a much better lay-of-the-land for administrators.
*applause*
CD-Rs die quickly, not normal CDs. They use different methods for storing the data on the disc.
You're idea will never work. Clearly we need gravity pumps, not anti-gravity generators. We all know anti-gravity generators are impossible!!!
Maybe you forgot about the Excubots in season 4.
I believe both are cool things to use.
They give you the ability to do that through their software, so it's fine.
An essay on TRON Costume
To delve deeply into TRON Costume is an exciting adventure. The constantly changing fashionable take on TRON Costume demonstrates the depth of the subject. Though TRON Costume is a favourite topic of discussion amongst monarchs, presidents and dictators, its influence on western cinema has not been given proper recognition. It still has the power to shock the aristocracy, who form the last great hope for our civilzation. Keeping all of this in mind, in this essay I will examine the major issues.
Social Factors
Society begins and ends with TRON Costume. When blues legend 'Bare Foot D' remarked 'awooooh eeee only my dawg understands me' he was clearly refering to the impact of TRON Costume on today's society. While deviating from the norm will always cause unrest amongst ones peers, TRON Costume provides standards by which we may judge our selves.
Nothing represents every day life better than TRON Costume, and I mean nothing. It breaks the mould, shattering man's misunderstanding of man.
Economic Factors
Is unemployment inherently bad for an economy? Yes. We will begin by looking at the JTB-Guide-Dog model using the median instead of the mean, where possible.
Indisputably there is a link. How can this be explained? Well the cost of living has always depended upon TRON Costume to a certain extent, but now more that ever. In the light of this free trade must be examined.
Political Factors
Much of the writings of historians display the conquests of the most powerful nations over less powerful ones. Comparing TRON Costume and much of what has been written of it can be like comparing the vote of the man in the street with that of one more accustomed to TRON Costume.
One quote comes instantly to mind when examining this topic. I mean of course the words of style icon Demetrius Woodpecker 'Taking a walk across hot coals will inevitably hurt your feet.' What a fantastic quote. It is a well known 'secret' that what prompted many politicians to first strive for power was TRON Costume.
The question which we must each ask ourselves is, will we allow TRON Costume to win our vote?
Conclusion
In my opinion TRON Costume plays a large part in the lives of all. It fills a hole, 'literally' plants seeds for harvest, and figures show it's a winning formular.
The final say goes to the award winning Uma Zeta-Jones 'My Daddy loved TRON Costume and his Daddy loved TRON Costume.'
The subject of Windows security is a controversial issue. In depth analysis of Windows security can be an enriching experience. Indispensable to homosapians today, it is important to remember that 'what goes up must come down.' It is an unfortunate consequence of our civilizations history that Windows security is rarely given rational consideration by socialists, many of whom fail to comprehend the full scope of Windows security. In the light of this I will break down the issues in order to give each of them the thought that they fully deserve
Social Factors
Society is our own everyday reality. When J H Darcy said 'fevour will spread' she failed to understand that if one seriously intends to 'not judge a book by its cover', then one must read a lot of books. Spanning divides such as class, race and uglyness, Windows security provides standards by which we may judge our selves.
Nothing represents every day life better than Windows security, and I mean nothing. If society has a favourite child, it is Windows security.
Economic Factors
Is unemployment inherently bad for an economy? Yes. We will study the Fish-Out-Of-Water model of economics.
The results displayed in the graph are too clear to be ignored. Clearly the cost of living has always depended upon Windows security to a certain extent, but now more that ever. The economic policy spectrum is seeing a period of unprecedented growth.
Political Factors
Much of the writings of historians display the conquests of the most powerful nations over less powerful ones. Comparing Windows security and much of what has been written of it can be like comparing playing with a puppy and singing with a blackbird.
To quote one of the great political analysts Esperanza H. Amster 'You can lead a horse to water, big deal.' Amazingly, he new nothing of Windows security until he was well into his thirties. To paraphrase, the quote is saying 'Windows security wins votes.' Simple as that.
Is Windows security politically correct, in every sense? Each man, woman and to a lesser extent, child, must make up their own mind.
Conclusion
In conclusion, Windows security may not be the best thing since sliced bread, but it's still important. It questions, influences the influencers, and most importantly it perseveres.
What a great essay. Finally a word from super-star Elton Garfunkel: 'Windows security is the new rock and roll! And the new opera!'
Okay, then I owe you $0.
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Chances are it will never be merged into NetBSD, which is sad because it's a kick ass packet filter. Why? Because one of the core developers is friends with the guy who created the current packet filter.